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River Arrest - EPISODE 10 (The Bakersfield Three)

May 20, 2024 / 22:44

This episode covers the challenges of working in a newsroom, featuring news assistant Erica Torres and the story of Matthew Queen's arrest in a river.

Erica Torres discusses the skills needed to manage multiple police scanners while reporting breaking news. She recalls a specific incident in July 2019 when a police pursuit ended with a suspect jumping into the Kern River.

As the news team scrambled to cover the story, it was revealed that the suspect, Matthew Queen, was wanted for a kidnapping charge. The episode highlights the chaotic nature of live news reporting and the urgency of the situation.

Caleb, a key witness, shares his experiences with Queen, detailing a disturbing incident involving zip ties and a shock collar. The episode also features testimonies from others who interacted with Queen, illustrating the complex dynamics of their relationships.

Ultimately, the episode touches on the emotional toll of the ongoing investigation and the unexpected moments of joy, such as the birth of a baby in the midst of tragedy.

TLDR

Erica Torres recounts the chaotic coverage of Matthew Queen's arrest after a police pursuit ended in the Kern River, revealing disturbing witness accounts.

Episode

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to work in a newsroom you have to have a special skill that is learning how to work without the blaring news from the
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police scanners driving you mad and that's just if you want to skate by essentially doing the bare minimum a
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truly skilled employee in the 17 Newsroom can not only get their work done with the scanners going off they
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can also listen to them at the same time this is in my opinion an incredibly impressive skill one I was never good at
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especially since most newsrooms have several different scanners playing at the same time here's a little snippet of
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what that sounds like confir they we canit one I think listening to that all day would make the average
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person want to rip their hair out but not 177 news assistant news Director Erica Torres I'm very good at listening
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to the scanner I can tell when there's you know breaking news happening or big event the scanner is key because without
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it there are tons of things happening we'd never know about or if we waited for the police to notify us it would be
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long after the scene was cleared which for TV news especially doesn't work well Erica has been the one who heard and
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alerted us to countless fires shootings standoffs you name it but there's a lot of stuff on the scanner that Erica
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listens to that isn't something we'd really send a news crew to Pursuits and chases are an everyday thing nothing out
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of the ordinary but one summer after afternoon in July 2019 Erica was listening to
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scanner chatter about a foot pursuit that had an interesting twist the pursuit ended up in the
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[Music] river I'm Olivia Lavo and this is the Bakersfield 3 [Music] I remember a few of us started to gather
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around the scanner and kind of joke to each other that's a new one people do all sorts of things to try to avoid the
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cops but jumping into the karna river was a first and based off what dispatchers were saying on the scanner
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it sounded like a first for them too subject in the river that PE was chasing they're requesting you bring your boat
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went underwater about 10 seconds ago you should be right directly in the middle of the river confirm with County fire if
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they have a boat uh we can only fit one officer on the fire boat at one point we weren't sure if the
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officers wanted to get on a boat to go grab the suspect in the water to arrest him or rescue him either way it was all
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pretty interesting to hear tidbits of it as I was getting ready to fill in on the
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anchor desk that night I think we were about 30 minutes into the 5:00 p.m. newscast when I started to hear a
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commotion coming from Erica's desk everyone knew that I had got a hot tip I think every time I hear something big I
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run into our news director's office and I told Mike try he I don't know if I can
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curse but holy [ __ ] I Matthew Queen is in the river now it wasn't just an interesting weird standoff anymore it
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was a big story former 17 News producer Rafel Strode had to scramble in the middle of his newscast basically like oh
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my God it's Matthew Queen right just stranded in the river while police were trying to figure out a way to get to him
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and uh figure out how to arrest him and bring him back on the land during the newscast literally I think we were
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meeting in between commercial breaks about how we need to get Olivia on the story because it's her story yeah Liv
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was anchoring that day and eventually we were just like get her out there an anchor leaving the desk in the
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middle of a newscast wasn't something we'd normally ever do but this was big what were officers arresting him for of
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course we all had the same thought it had to have something to do with Bailey's disappearance and that's what
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was going through Jane's head when she got the news I look at my phone and I have all these texts and mies phone
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calls and I think I called D and she's like McQueen's in the river and I'm like what what are you talking
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about you know and I'm like oh my God I got to get over there but by the time Jane and I got there all the action had
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fizzled out Matt Queen had eventually on his own walked out of the river and into
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police custody here's Sergeant Garrett the water wasn't extremely deep he was able to navigate it fairly well but I
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mean there's at times where he submerged himself into water to try to hide from us and as it turned out police weren't
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even there to arrest him that day went there to execute a search warrant on his Suburban as well as get a buckle
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swap from him and he uh fled his place of employment and let us on an hours long standoff which wasn't entirely
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expected the intention was to get a saliva swab his DNA and search his car but when he ran things shifted and that
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day all police would say is he was booked into jail on a kidnapping charge of course we all thought does this mean
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he k kidnapped Bailey it didn't the next day we got confirmation the kidnapping victim was not Bailey or Micah it was a
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guy named Caleb whose name had come up several times after bayy and Micah went missing as he was part of what the moms
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call the circle he hung out with Bailey Micah and Matt Queen the alleged kidnapping took place shortly after the
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do Phil episode aired in early 2019 Queen and two of his friends woke up Caleb in the middle of the the night
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and allegedly forced him into a car they had a gun which turned out to be a BB gun but Caleb reported being scared for
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his life nonetheless Queen wore a bulletproof vest and questioned Caleb about him talking to police about Queen
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having Andor selling guns Caleb also told police about another unsettling incident between him and queen that
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happened not long before Micah went missing Caleb said it started out like a regular day with him and Micah going
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over to Queen's house to hang out The Voice you'll hear asking him questions is prosecutor Eric Smith we walked in
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the house and went straight to the garage and then uh it he pretty much just told me to sit down on the chair
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and he zip tied me do it what were you thinking when it happened ah man I didn't know it was hard to judge with
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Matthew because he was a very good friend of mine and I didn't think he would necessarily kill me but he was
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definitely uh he wasn't screwing around you know so you didn't think you were going to end up dead you just figured
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you might get hurt yeah I guess I mean I I I couldn't say for certain you know it was a weird
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time for everybody when you're getting zip tied to the chair where's Micah he was uh
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sitting across the table from me what was his demeanor what did he look like he scared
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shitless did he say anything no he he he just kind of sat there like like he wanted to help me but he didn't know
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what he could do what about m Mr queen as you're getting zip tied to the chair what's his demeanor what's he acting
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like he's acting like a friend still like it was all a big joke like he was he was real jovial about the whole
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situation did you think it was a joke I mean at first I kind of did but then you
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know once I was zip tied to the chair then it wasn't funny anymore and it wasn't funny for him
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anymore either I guess Caleb said Queen then brought out a shock collar after that was placed on your
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neck what happened next he shocked me with it what did it feel like I mean well it didn't feel good it wasn't as uh
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as awful as I mean it I expected it to be but it definitely was you know scary and discomforting hey after you've been
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shocked what happens next uh he tried to get Micah to shock me too and he wouldn't do
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it what happened next uh he hit me in the face with the barrel of a gun now after you were struck what happened he
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stuck a Band-Aid on me and Drew a smiley face on it according to Caleb after Queen put
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the Band-Aid with the smiley face on Caleb's bloody swollen cut he cut off the zip ties and went back to acting
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like they were friends the moms heard this story early on in their investigation and eventually convinced
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Caleb to come forward the incident gave us a glimpse into the strange world queen and the circle we're living in
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where friends are scared of one another or at least scared of McQueen one month after his arrest and
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being charged with kidnapping Caleb Queen was hit with more charges this time in connection to a young woman who
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was a friend of Bailey's were calling her Molly Molly was another witness the moms found and begged her to come
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forward Molly eventually told police that Queen had pointed a gun at her on two different occasions before Micah or
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Bailey disappeared the first was in January U AR 2018 Molly says she and Micah were in
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Queen's car when he suddenly drove them to an orchard Molly says Micah seemed terrified and jumped out of the car and
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took off running Molly says after Micah ran off Queen grabbed a gun and ordered Molly to get out here is audio of
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prosecutor Eric Smith asking Molly about this after Mr Queen points the firearm at your head what does he say to you how
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would you feel if my daughter grew up without a mother what was your response to
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that I got on my knees and started begging for my life was he asking you any questions
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like explaining to you why you had a gun pointed to your head yeah uh something of the sorts of if
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Bailey has been cheating on him and I said no I don't think she is the second incident happened on March
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21st 2018 just a couple days before before Micah disappeared Molly took her one-year-old daughter to Queen's house
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to see Bailey who she says she was worried about at Queen's house that day Molly says Bailey confided in her that
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she was pregnant and not sure what to do according to police reports Molly told Bailey she didn't need to go through
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with having the baby among other things and unbeknownst to her Queen was standing just outside the door listening
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here's Molly and prosecutor Eric Smith again I was talking about how the relationship that she
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should get out that it wasn't healthy so when he walked in the room you were telling Bailey to essentially
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move out break up with Mr Queen mhm yes what was his response to that he went into his closet I was
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sitting on the couch my daughter was walking he comes out from the closet and pulls the
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gun to me again and said get the [ __ ] out I got up I moved and then um Bailey tried
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intruding and then Bailey ended up getting pushed and slammed up up against a wall and then she baile looked at me
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and said go so I grabbed in the car seat and I I ran and then he followed me out
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and chased me to the street perhaps one of the more surprising things about Molly's story is
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despite the fact that Queen threatened her at gunpoint in January a couple months later she still went to his house
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and she brought her baby and after he chased her down when she fled his house the second time he pointed a gun at her
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she went on to let him drive her home because she said it was raining outside and she didn't want her baby to get
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sick if that seems bizarre it's because it is is but yet not unusual for this friend
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group numerous people who say they were terrified of Queen still hung out with him Caleb discussed this strange Dynamic
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when describing to prosecutor Eric Smith what he was feeling during the incident
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when he awoke to Queen standing over him with a gun demanding he get up and go with
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him it was complicated because in the past instances I'd had with him like you it would be like a a really scary
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situation but then it would be all joking and laughing at the end of it and it was so it was
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unpredictable complicated indeed and it seems Micah also felt the same way several people say Micah referred to
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Matt queen as scary Matt and at times seemed genuinely afraid of him but they still hung out and often after the
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incident when Queen brought Micah and Molly to an orchard causing Micah to run off seemingly terrified Micah sent a
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meme in a group chat with with him Bailey queen Molly Sarah and Matt vand Castile it was a photo of Hannibal
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Lecter from Silence of the Lambs Micah wrote quote the expression on Matt Queen's face when he's about to execute
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you in the Orchards the group chat seemed to get a kick out of it but Sergeant Garrett didn't think any of it
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was a joke and the charges against Queen ranging from threats and assault continued to pile up unlike the last two
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times Queen had been arrested in Bakersfield he couldn't bail out now I saw it all as a tactic by Sergeant
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Garrett and I figured he probably wanted Queen Behind Bars one way or another if
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he couldn't get him on murder he was going to get him on everything else he could
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find well he had a pattern of ongoing violent criminal activity and in order to safeguard our public I uh started
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investigating all these other things and ultimate goal was getting him held to answer on those cases so that meant him
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being in erated that does safeguard and prevent further victims I asked Sergeant Garrett for his
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opinion about Queen he's actually a smart person U he thinks of himself highly I don't know him personally per
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se but I feel like I know him just the amount of hours and stuff I've looked into his life over the years he's very
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calculating and basically you know he likes to pick on people that are weaker mindset of his and that's what he did
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continuously during this investigation some people Queen hung out with didn't have jobs cars or even
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working cell phones but Queen wasn't like that at all really he lived a double life he had his whole life of
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criminal activity and stuff and then he was actually a productive person at work
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which is kind of unusual Queen seemed driven at work involved with his kids made enough to
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have nice things I heard from some people he just seemed like a completely normal guy not someone you'd need to be
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scared of that was something I found myself wondering about too that first year of the investigation who was he at
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his core was he scary was he dangerous I remember earlier on in my reporting a couple people telling me to be careful
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of him that he didn't like me and I should essentially watch my back it was odd because I've reported on many
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suspected criminals ranging from gang members to a guy with face tattoos to make him look like the Joker who told me
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that killing someone was better than drugs or sex could ever be and no one ever suggested I should be nervous until
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this case when they were worried about you I was worried about you to be honest he he he scared me coming from Bill the
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big tough former Cop made me pay attention you know I always said if I if I had another if I was a detective again
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I would have wanted you as my partner I mean you're a bulldog and tougher than a
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woodpecker's beak but it doesn't matter if you're Olivia La voice 5 foot nothing
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and 100 nothing or big fat Bill derby with a gun on his hip if he wants to kill you he's going to kill
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you the first and really only time I got Queen to speak with me face to face he said he'd consider meeting with me and
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giving me a flash drive with information who knows what that meant as he never did give it to me but during the
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conversation I noticed he had clear braces he wore a plaid shirt and had a backpack on and was somewhat
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softspoken that moment he seemed more like a nerdy dad than a criminal mastermind he was a middle-aged
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electrician suffering through braces hoping for a straighter smile he didn't seem so scary but overall I wasn't sure
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how to view him what was real and what was the facade here's Sergeant Garrett and I discussing this I mean some people
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will describe him as someone that seemed so dangerous and scary and Powerful scary Matt as they referred to him well
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actually he he referred to himself that way too so I think he got off on exerting his power over other people he
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has prior convictions of similar nature and it just seems like that's his thing after Queen's arrest he tried to
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stay positive or so it seemed in phone calls he made to his girlfriend Sarah who' been Bailey's good friend as well
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as the former girlfriend of Queen's good friend Matt Vander Castile Sarah was now
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at home taking care of her and queen's new baby on this recorded call from jail Queen appears to tell Sarah something to
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the effect of everything is in God's hands and everything happens for a reason the audio quality is terrible and
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difficult to make out marrying me even though I'm in prison for me to see that you do love me not your money queen says
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maybe it was all a test one it seems Sarah passed after he asked her to marry him from behind bars and she accepted he
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says that showed him her love for him is real that it's not just about his money just a note here the pair never
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did get married anyhow Queen also tells Sarah on the call everything they've been through LED them to having their
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baby that little baby would be here I know to go through all of the things to get him to
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say it was like Bailey had to go for us to be it's difficult to make out but Queen
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appears to tell Sarah we had to go through all of it to get him I hate to say it but Bailey had to go missing for
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us to be together but as the days started to go by Queen's positivity lessened and his frustration of feeling
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like everyone had the wrong idea idea about him grew in another difficult to understand jail call queen says he's
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never hurt anyone in the circle of friends consisting of Bailey Micah Caleb and others I'm the one that's out here
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trying to save not [ __ ] hurt them I'm the in shining armor quote I'm the knight in shining armor I didn't do
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anything people are [ __ ] and you know the one I'm talking [ __ ] you know you were there
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baby you were there Queen didn't elaborate but the implication seemed to be that Sarah knows the truth about
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something because she was there what that might mean we didn't know just [Music]
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yet a couple weeks after Queen's arrest something happened that was the first and only purely happy event for the moms
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since losing their kids a baby was born I was told that it would be near impossible for me to ever conceive
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naturally if I ever wanted kids after spending years thinking it could never happen Bailey's sister Caitlyn got
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pregnant and it had a big effect on not just her own family when Cheryl and Lance and when D found out everybody was
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just real ecstatic and happy in that moment everyone agreed the baby was a gift from Bailey Caitlyn thought a lot
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about her sister and her friend Micah during her pregnancy I knew regardless on if it was a boy or a girl
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we were going to incorporate their names in into it somehow Caitlyn says her decision was also based on how close her
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and Micah's families got so quickly we had came up with her name larmy and then decided on larmy M
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Bailey having Micah and Bailey's name hyphenated together as her middle name just felt right the baby girl felt like
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a light all three of the families needed in their lives so for a time though it was brief there was a true feeling of
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Joy before everything in the three moms lives was about to be turned upside [Music]
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down what the mom's thinking how does this change how they work together that was probably the biggest surprise so far
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in a case that's been full of them that's next [Music] time for

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Episode Highlights

  • Erica's Scanner Skills
    Erica Torres impressively multitasks, listening to multiple police scanners while working.
    “This is an incredibly impressive skill, one I was never good at.”
    @ 00m 26s
    May 20, 2024
  • Matthew Queen's River Standoff
    During a foot pursuit, Matthew Queen ended up in a river, leading to a chaotic news moment.
    “Holy [ __ ]! Matthew Queen is in the river now!”
    @ 03m 21s
    May 20, 2024
  • Molly's Terrifying Encounter
    Molly recounts being threatened at gunpoint by Queen, revealing the fear within their friend group.
    “I got on my knees and started begging for my life.”
    @ 10m 06s
    May 20, 2024
  • A Baby Born Amidst Tragedy
    Bailey's sister Caitlyn's pregnancy brings a moment of joy to families affected by the case.
    “The baby girl felt like a light all three of the families needed in their lives.”
    @ 21m 37s
    May 20, 2024

Episode Quotes

  • I can tell when there's breaking news happening.
    River Arrest - EPISODE 10 (The Bakersfield Three)
  • Holy [ __ ]! Matthew Queen is in the river now!
    River Arrest - EPISODE 10 (The Bakersfield Three)
  • I got on my knees and started begging for my life.
    River Arrest - EPISODE 10 (The Bakersfield Three)

Key Moments

  • Scanner Skills00:47
  • Breaking News03:21
  • Gun Threat10:06
  • Joyful Birth21:37

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