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Unraveling the mystery behind a deadly break-in

November 19, 2018 / 02:39:08

This episode covers the tragic home invasion of the Penn family, focusing on the events surrounding the murder of Vika Penn and the attempted murder of her husband, Han Penn, on November 8, 2010. Key topics include the timeline of the invasion, Jennifer Penn's involvement, and the aftermath of the crime.

The episode begins with a chilling 911 call made by Jennifer Penn, who was tied up during the invasion. She describes hearing gunshots and her father's desperate attempts to escape. The narrative then shifts to the background of the Penn family, detailing their life in Markham, Ontario, and the events leading up to the invasion.

Listeners learn about Jennifer's complicated relationship with her parents, particularly the high expectations placed on her. The episode discusses her secretive behavior, including her relationship with Daniel Wong, and how her life spiraled into deception.

As the investigation unfolds, police interviews reveal inconsistencies in Jennifer's statements. The episode highlights the eventual arrest of Jennifer and her co-conspirators, including Daniel Wong, who were charged with first-degree murder and conspiracy.

The episode concludes with the trial and the emotional impact on Han Penn, the sole survivor, who recounts the devastating loss of his wife and the changes in his life following the tragedy.

TLDR

The episode details the Penn family's tragic home invasion, Vika's murder, and Jennifer's involvement in the crime.

Episode

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[Music] come on carefully please I don't know where are you ma'am create a view I
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think we just know hello ma'am calm down what's going on some people broke into so it's all is money man yeah I am where
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are you two three eight one Avenue Q three eighth Avenue Road yeah you saw them it's a changing for me please hello
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hello yes ma'am I need to know your address Avenue rocky because they haven't to see Helen Avenue my dad what
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else ice cream eight ma'am you stop the street address for me please 808 and broken I heard a shot like pop I don't
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know what's happening I'm tied up there and I think my dad went outside and he's
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screaming okay you're upstairs you think someone fell in the house I believe I don't know they're still around okay are
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you safety can you lock your door you upstairs I can't hide is our time my cell phone in
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my pocket someone invaded your home ma'am yes and her gunshot they had guns and I'm holding me at gunpoint you hear
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mommy or daddy everything your mom decide to learn do you think your mom is downstairs to store anymore hey just
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take a deep breath okay do you know what you believe do you know that if they know your parents anything
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like that was on your relation to them to do to make people they just they just came and tied you up and thank you
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really boys all your money worth your money where's your wallet is it you're asking for money
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okay don't worry okay lots of hop on the way okay what's your name Jennifer okay
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Jennifer you're doing a great job okay you hear them okay just stand if only do you see them okay Jennifer Jennifer
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well you found the fun right okay do you see anyone there okay Jennifer there with you okay
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Jennifer yes there with you right I don't okay you want to stand this on me to see
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them sure they're there okay Jennifer got me hang up okay okay take care okay [Music]
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on November 8 2010 just after 9:30 p.m. 25 year-old Jennifer Penn was in her bedroom she had a TV on and was chatting
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on the phone while getting ready for bed she had spent the afternoon practicing the piano and studying piano history for
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an upcoming test she'd been playing the piano since she was 4 years old earlier that day Jennifer's mother 53
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year old beaker went to visit jennifer's grandfather and run some errands around
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Markham in Ontario Canada Vika returned home around 3:00 in the afternoon Jennifer's father 57 year old Han had
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gotten home later than usual from work it worked half in the air away at an automotive manufacturer in Scarborough
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Ontario it was a metal tool and dye operator here had forgotten to lock the toolbox and remembered when he was
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already halfway home so he had to turn back when he got home just after 4:30 p.m. he called his brother
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Jennifer's uncle to see if he wanted to join him shopping they went to Home Depot Vika cooked
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dinner and ate with Jennifer before going to her Vaughan dancing class which she attended every Monday they put hands
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dinner aside for when he got home from shopping and got home around the 6:15 p.m. he ate his dinner alone and then
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went to the study which was upstairs next to he's in big cars bedroom he logged on to his computer to catch up on
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the latest Vietnamese news before going to bed he always went to bed early as he
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had to get up for work at 5:00 a.m. about 6:30 p.m. Jennifer's friend - Adrienne visited her they regularly had
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TV nights together and Adrienne had bought over the latest episodes of Gossip Girl and How I Met Your Mother
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for them to catch up on they went down to the basement TV room together Adrienne left about 9:00 p.m. and
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Jennifer went upstairs to her bedroom Jennifer put the TV on in her room The Amazing Race was on about 9:15 p.m.
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she heard her mum get home from lawn dancing Jennifer went downstairs and spoke briefly to her mum who was also watching
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TV Jennifer then went back up to her room where she continued watching TV and called her friend an old co-worker
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Edward Pacifica door around 20 minutes later Jennifer could hear movement downstairs and voices she didn't
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recognize her mother who nearly always spoke in a mix of Vietnamese and her native Cantonese yelled out for Han in
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English in a tone that Jennifer knew meant now that startled Jennifer there were people in the house she heard
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footsteps studying so loudly up the stairs she knew they could not be her parents they couldn't be her younger
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brother Felix either he was living half an hour away at university jennifer hung
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up the phone on Edward in fact frozen in her room she was too scared to turn the
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tv down and she was too scared to open the door she was too scared to move she heard men shouting outside her room and
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then her dad yelling he had been asleep but was woken up by the commotion to see
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me and wearing a baseball cap standing over him but without his glasses on him couldn't see properly where's the
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[ __ ] money the man in the cap screamed before he and got a chance to act he was dragged
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downstairs to where another man was standing over his wife of 30 years vicar was cowering and crying in her silky
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green winnie-the-pooh pajamas all the lights were off there was just the glove the TV lighting the room the first words
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be cut cried to hand were how did they get in in reply I don't know I was sleeping
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one of the men yelled shut up you talk too much upstairs Jennifer got the courage to
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open her door a little I mean with dreadlocks flopping around his face saw her he walked towards her carrying
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string he grabbed her hands and tied them behind it back I have a gun behind your back do what I say if you do what I
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say then no one will get hurt where is the money show me where your money is Jennifer gave them in two
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thousand dollars cash she had saved he then dragged her to her parents room show me where they keep the money
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Jennifer said she didn't know and so the man trashed the room with the help of one of the other attackers they found
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some money in because bedside table one of the men dragged Jennifer into the hallway
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down the stairs to where her parents were pleading he made her kneel on the ground near the foot of the stairs away
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from both her parents this is when Jennifer first realized there were three attackers in total all men but she
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couldn't really see the third men they were all carrying guns the third attacker was yelling at her
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mother big car tried to get up off the floor but the men was yelling at her to get back down because poor English left
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her confused she didn't know what he was saying Jennifer yelled out to her mom to sit
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down she didn't want her to get hurt the men kept yelling where's the [ __ ] money
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and said I'll have $60 in my pants upstairs but my possessions are worth plenty one of the men dragged Jennifer
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back up the stairs towards her parents room again he found the cash Jennifer remembered her mother had more money
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stashed and told the man where it was in the bedroom it was around 1,100 u.s. dollars left over from a trip to the
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United States they had just taken to go to a wedding Jennifer hoped this would be enough
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money for them to let her and her family go but the men had other ideas they tied
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Jennifer to the banister at the top of the stairs one of the men downstairs started to look around the kitchen he
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was looking for because purse he even looked in the fridge I need the [ __ ] money he received a hard blow to the
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back of his head and he watched as blood sprayed over the living room sofa as he
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felt their [ __ ] get up in a big car were forced down the basement stairs big car was hysterically crying unable to
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control herself you can hurt us but please don't hurt our daughter Jennifer screamed they are from upstairs to let
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her go with her parents hand remained silent he realized this wasn't just the break-in
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the basement was set up as a TV room with a large leather reclining chair and a 2 seater sofa blankets were scattered
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around the TV and stereo cabinet was in the corner with pitches knickknacks and de vars of fresh flowers hen and big
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heart were forced onto the sofa with one of the gunmen throwing blankets over their heads before he got to look his
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attackers in the face he was shot twice in quick succession the first shot struck his face fracturing the bone in
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the inner corner of his right eye raising his carotid artery the main artery which runs down your neck the
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second shot hit him in the right shoulder and exited out the back big heart was screaming more shots wrung out
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1 2 3 the first entered at the base of because neck the second through her right
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shoulder and the third entered and exited her skull killing her instantly Jennifer was
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carrying at the top of the stairs she heard the shots ringing out she heard one of the men say we gotta go now it's
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been too long the string which was tying her to the banister had a gap of about 8
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inches which allowed her to reach into the waistband of her yoga pants for her phone she dialed 9-1-1 you heard the
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call at the start of the episode han was silent but he was not dead within seconds as he regained consciousness and
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turned to his wife slumped on the floor there was blood everywhere he cried her name over and over but she was gone han
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was in agony his face dripping with blood he was unable to see a thing without his glasses he was moaning and
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yelling as he crawled up the basement stairs to the main level of the house Jennifer was calling out to him from
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upstairs crying for him but he ran for the front door trying to get help outside and neighbor Peter Chung was on
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his way to work he walked outside of his house just after the attackers fled in a
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waiting car it was confronted by a friend he can as he collapsed on the ground covered in
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blood police sirens got louder as they approached the house Peter was with him when they arrived
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the more Mike's Tesco and his partner Brian Derek were two of the first officers on the scene they approached
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him who was covered in blood and saw a trail leading from the house to where he had fallen hen was moaning and wailing
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but managed to save wife was shot and his daughter was still inside other officers started to arrive one of those
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was constable Mason Baines the officers had no idea where the gunmen were but their first job was to check inside and
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clear the house they approached with their guns drawn they could hear Jennifer's cries for
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help upstairs constables Thesz Cohen Baines went down to the basement they were followed by Derek who momentarily
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went downstairs is Becker before going upstairs to Jennifer it's Derek you can hear approach her in
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the norm on one call in the basement they saw the body of B cart on the floor there was a large pool of blood around
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her they attempted to get a response from her but they got nothing the paramedics arrived and took over
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Derek climbed the stairs to where Jennifer was huddled at the top her hands only loosely tied now with the
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shoelace she was sobbing as she hung up the phone from the norm on one Operator Jennifer told Derek she didn't know
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where the attackers were Derek gripped his weapon he moved past Jennifer to check the other rooms of the top floor
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there was no one there the men were gone Derek walked back to Jennifer who was sitting on the floor slightly to one
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side her legs underneath her and her hands centered in front of her her hands were bound with a long shoelace tightly
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enough that Derek needed to find some scissors to cut the lace away but loosely enough Jennifer could move her
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hands around eight inches away from the banister there was no bruising or redness on her wrists that he could see
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she was unharmed Derek helped her downstairs putting his own jacket over her and walking her
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towards a paramedic Jennifer called out for her father as he was being wheeled into an ambulance himself the paramedics
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helped Jennifer into the ambulance accompanied by a constable Derek she asked Derek where her mother was he
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told her that her mother had died in the basement Jennifer put her head down and covered
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her face with her hands by now neighbors were outside wondering what was going on the neighbor who had
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found him was standing in shock relaying what he had seen to an officer none of them knew baqar was dead some
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neighbors were relatives and others were very close friends once Jennifer had calmed down
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constable Derek asked her what she remembered about the home invasion she said there were three men one with
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dreadlocks but that's all she could get out constable Mike Sisco relayed in his reports what he witnessed at the scene
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although he had seen a trail of blood splatter on the way in upon entering the house he said quote everything in the
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house seemed to be where it should be obviously we've done home invasions in the past where their house had been
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ransacked but nothing was out of place nothing taken but upstairs was a different story the master bedroom had
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been rent sacked dresser drawers had been pulled out and emptied all over the floor the mattress pulled off and tipped
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over on its side but apart from that no furniture elsewhere in the house had been disturbed the house at 240 Helen
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Avenue Markham Ontario was a middle-class suburban home a two-story brown brick house with two white garage
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doors it had a large front porch with pillars leading up to welcoming double front
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doors in a suburb of the large homes it didn't stand out from the rest most houses were similar and most of the
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residents for Asian families like the pants from the outside there was no obvious reason for this house to be
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targeted over any others the city of Markham just north of Toronto is in the region of York
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it's about as safe and as quiet as suburbs get in the area the community was tight-knit a woman who
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lived in the pens street said quote we've been here 10 years people don't understand why this house there are
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bigger homes in the area maybe they thought that we were an easy target the pens were a simple quiet hard-working
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family it didn't make sense in the year prior to the home invasion at the pens 2009 the York Region had a total of 14
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home invasions which was half the amount they had in 2008 Markham had experienced six home
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invasions so far that year up to November 2010 none of which had ended in murder home invasions were nearly always
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targeted attacks drugs were a common motive but a random home invasion which ended in murder was almost unheard of in
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Markham almost every detective in the region was assigned to the pen case in some way within a day home security
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companies descended on the suburb door knocking and selling camera systems the baffled and frightened the community
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wondered who would be next Canadian statistics for the year prior to the attack on the Pens showed that of
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four hundred and fifty three solve homicides 242 over half were committed by partners 87 were committed by a blood
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relative 42 were committed by an acquaintance leaving 82 murders in the year prior committed by someone unknown
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to the victim including people caught in crossfire and in big Harpe M had both been raised and educated in Vietnam they
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arrived to Canada separately in 1979 as political refugees they met in Toronto and got married not long after in 1986
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their first child Jennifer was born followed three years later by their son Felix hen and Bakr worked hard in their
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first jobs at an automotive parts manufacturer in Aurora a town just over an hour's drive from Toronto they lived
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a frugal life in the Toronto district of Scarborough they didn't like living there it was a rough neighborhood and
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they were robbed hen and B car made it their goal to move their family to a better area by 2004 they had saved heart
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and moved to Markham they bought a large home with a two-car garage and a quiet residential street
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Markham had a large Asian community and they were close to relatives and friends
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by the late 2000s Han was driving a mercedes-benz and to be cut Alexus big car lost her job in 2008 when
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the company had cutbacks she found it hard to find employment but her and him continued to make it work especially for
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the education of their children by 2010 they had saved $200,000 in the bank and could afford to support their
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two children through college their hard work and dedication was very evident there were strict parents who seemingly
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lived for their children they wanted to give their children all the things they weren't able to have growing up they
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seemed happy but for two years leading up to the home invasion they slept most nights in separate rooms according to
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Jennifer they hadn't been getting along very well at all there had always been tension but lately that had gotten worse
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lots of arguments in yelling would occur in those days Jennifer sometimes had to mediate and be
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the common ground between them Jennifer felt that if she could be good for them they would be happy and in big Harpe
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push their kids academically wanting the best for them in the early days before moving to Markham Jennifer then four
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years old was playing the piano by the time she was in elementary school she had a room full of awards she figure
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skated from a young age but not for fun she trained hard in the hope she would make it onto the 2010 Canadian Winter
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Olympic team even as a young child Jennifer would often train until 10 p.m. then go home and do homework till
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midnight but Jennifer started to bombing out in skating competitions she tried to
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hide her devastation from her parents not wanting to add worried to their disappointment sometimes big heart would
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comfort her saying you know all we want from you is just your best just do what you can that Mary Ward Catholic
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Secondary College in grade 8 Jennifer worked hard it was expected that she would receive valedictorian that year
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the top honor of her grade as well as receive a bunch of awards for her academic achievements but she didn't win
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valedictorian she won no Awards she put on what she would later describe as her happy mask in spite of this and in the
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proud eyes of her parents Jennifer went on to do well the expectation was that both the P and children would go to
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Toronto University hen and big car also had very set ideas about Jennifer's extracurricular activities she was
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allowed to figure skate as long as you work towards her goal of Nationals for the Olympic team she could pursue
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music but she had to work hard on music theory and pass exams she was not allowed to go to parties dances and most
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importantly she was not allowed to have a boyfriend her focus in life were her studies and her goals she never had
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sleepovers and she never went on trips away with anyone she was however allowed to go on a two-week banned trip to
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Europe towards the end of high school in 2003 this is where Jennifer and her friend Daniel Wong became more than just
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friends that summer they started seeing each other but Jennifer didn't dare tell
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her parents Jennifer had met Daniel in grade 11 at bent practice Daniel was also the son of Asian immigrants he had
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a Filipino and Chinese background during the last year high school Daniel's parents moved him to the Cardinal Carter
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Academy an art school in North York he was falling behind in his studies at Mary Ward and he was starting to get
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himself into trouble dealing drugs by the end of school he had been charged with trafficking cannabis after
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half-pound was found in his car Jennifer didn't like the drug dealing she wasn't
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interested in drugs and didn't really want him to deal daniel refused to stop but he kept her out of it and Jennifer
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was spent with Daniel so nothing was going to stop her seeing him not his drug dealing and did not her parents
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when her parents eventually found out she had a boyfriend they immediately put an end to it but Jennifer didn't end it
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she kept her relationship with Daniel a secret and snuck around behind her parents back to keep singing Jennifer's
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grades were high enough to get her accepted into Ryerson University on early admission even though this wasn't
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Toronto University in and big car were thrilled when they learned that Jennifer had received a scholarship to Ryerson
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and they supported her decision to do two years there studying science her plan was to then transfer to Toronto
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University to study pharmacology they supported her financially depositing money into her bank account and they
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often drove her to university they even allowed her to spend a couple of nights a week at a fellow classmates house so
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she wasn't so exhausted there was a time during University where Jennifer's parents found out she was
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seeing Daniel again they were furious and made her stop seeing him Jennifer understood she knew they just
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had her best interest at heart and so she told them she had cut off communication with him and continued on
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with her studies when she got a work placement at the Hospital for Sick Kids in Toronto Jennifer's parents thought
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their dream for their daughter had been realized after the home invasion Jennifer was taken to hospital where she
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was seen by doctors and crisis workers she was told her father was undergoing life-saving surgery and was in a
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critical condition she was given medication to calm it down as she was badly shaken and suffering shock but
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physically she was unharmed at 1:31 a.m. when doctors felt she was stable enough
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to be released she was taken by constable Derick to Markham police station so she could make a statement
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once there police seized her phone in case it could help them with any information as to why her family was
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targeted a major case management unit was quickly put together three experienced investigators formed what is
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known as a command triangle having three had investigators gives the team the ability to have three sets of eyes on
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all aspects of the investigation and was the best strategy for managing the large
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team of officers who were working on the case Detective Sergeant Larry Wilson the
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most experienced of the three was named the senior investigating officer responsible for the direction of the
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investigation detective bill Curtis was put in charge of running the day-to-day tactical strategy he had previously led
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five homicide investigations and had been involved in a total of 80 others including one of Markham's most infamous
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involving convicted murderer Chris little Curtis was harsh but had an excellent track record Detective
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Constable Alan Cooke our former drugs and vice detective who also worked in the intelligence unit was placed as the
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foil coordinator Cook was known for his undercover expertise veteran York Regional Police Detective Randy Slade
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was on duty he had already met Jennifer at the hospital Jennifer was shaken and in shock but Slade explained that giving
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her statement now was going to be there chance of finding the people responsible
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by the time he sat down in the interview room with Jennifer that was 2:45 a.m. she had just lost her mom and her dad
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was in hospital fighting for his life Jennifer was 25 but could easily pass for 16 detective Slade explained to the
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forms he needed her to sign the standard procedure for giving a voluntary statement he was very careful to put
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Jennifer at ease and he explained she didn't have to give a statement here she didn't want to or wasn't ready do you
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understand the criminal consequences of making a false statement do you understand that it is your choice
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whether or not to give a statement do you understand the importance of telling the truth you think with respect to this
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investigation if you've spoken to any police officer a person in authority in connection with
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investigation I want it clearly understood but I do not want it to influence you in making others making a
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statement do you understand yeah do you have any questions so basically I'm starting to Hey so what what I've just
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explained to you is you're here voluntarily to help us that you don't have to talk to us if you don't want to
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but the importance of talking to us and if you're talking to us the importance of telling the truth and if you don't
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tell the truth there's criminal consequences for not telling the truth that's all that all that stuff had to
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deal with okay you can't point the finger at someone else you can't tell us to go off in a different direction you
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just got to tell us that you know exactly exactly and do you have any questions with respect to what I've just
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told you just like sitting sometimes like hearts come back they didn't remember when I no one is and that's the
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process this is going to be a lot long process this is an initial statement from you we may you know as you remember
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other things you may be asked you may want to come in and tell us things okay no one is going to tell you how to give
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us a give a perfect statement you just do what the best you can given given what you're dealing with okay
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any other questions at the beginning of the interview Jennifer started to realize the enormity of what it just
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happened to her and her family she sat nervously in the chair pulling the sleeves of her sweater over her wrists
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and went between rubbing her thighs to covering her face with their hands crying and the first mention of her
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mother's death Jennifer put her head down and started to cry Slade told Jennifer he would get
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her some tissues before saying you have nothing to apologize for Jennifer it's going to be tough but you know the
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importance of this statement you have nothing to apologize to me for I am here to help you okay Slade left the room to
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grab the tissues Jennifer's sat with her head down and her hands over her face she appeared to
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be crying when Slade opened the door to walk back in Jennifer jumped about a half a foot in the air
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detective Slade asked Jennifer to tell him as much about the day she could then they moved on to what happened to during
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the home invasion Jennifer told him the story start to finish next Slade asked her to tell him again
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but in a different way he asked Jennifer to recall the invasion at this time as if she was looking down on the event
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this is a technique which helps witnesses recall parts of what they saw that they may not necessarily have
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record before it can also show investigators if there is any change or inconsistency in the witness's story
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Jennifer described the men as best she could one was of African American appearance with dreadlocks that were
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shorter at the front and longer at the back he was of medium build in between 28 and 32 years of age he walked like
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leather gloves the second man she described as taller with a smaller frame wearing a
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dark-colored bandanna which covered the bottom half of his face and a hooded sweater the third man didn't engage with
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Jennifer at all she couldn't describe his appearance but she recognized that maybe he had a
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Jamaican accent this new technique enabled Jennifer to remember details about the home invasion
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that she was unable to record before she remembers that the men with the dreadlocks yelled out to the thinner man
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to tell Cuzzi who was the third man to get some more string that was how she was tied to the banister upstairs she
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also described seeing the cylinder of a gun and remembered more details about the third men while in retelling the
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story about the gunshots she heard while tied to the banister Jennifer recalled the man with the dreadlocks saying
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that's enough Arthur a few gunshots after hearing the words that's enough Jennifer heard one more shot this would
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be the shot that killed her mother about one hour into the interview Jennifer remembered more detail she was able to
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clearly differentiate the three voices of the attackers and could tell which of the three men were saying what she could
00:30:31
hear the words the men were saying to her parents in the basement she clearly heard the third attacker say
00:30:36
he just had to do what we said he just had to cooperate um do you know which way they go out you can't hear that um
00:30:47
I'm pretty sure the front door yeah but I'm not 100% I didn't get to see anything like my arms or my my back and
00:30:57
I was against the banister yep and banisters twisted so I can't see the front door now you hear your dad right
00:31:08
and what's going on so what do you hear next after you hear the scrambling they're gone
00:31:13
does your hearing know more I gather that's how you swim they're gone is because you don't hear then you hear
00:31:18
your dad I reach for my phone okay and you call 911 okay and then you what happens after
00:31:25
you're on I just I I heard my dad go out and I don't know if they damaged his throat how did you hear you're dead so
00:31:37
what this is the kind of importance because if you he did he go out the front door how did you how did you know
00:31:43
he went out the front door cuz I heard him both in the door did you hear that door open when these guys were
00:31:48
scrambling to leave there was so much thudding is your house got an alarm system yeah
00:31:55
you know the alarm system when the front door goes off and there's that chirping
00:31:59
we don't we don't have that you know is your house alarmed at night when you guys go to bed before the last person
00:32:06
goes up too bad they will alarm it but prior to that it doesn't get alarm okay so you hear you from your when your
00:32:15
father exits you hear the door open because you hear your dot and then yes I can hear like the outside noises okay
00:32:21
like the wind coming in and I just hear my dad I think you think that he sustained some kind of injury because
00:32:33
he's not you can't understand what he's saying okay what about can you hear your mom
00:32:40
okay where does your dad go do you know where you never seen your dad again until way
00:32:46
more at the hospital I think that's what you said right you saw him when he was on the greenie but the officers walking
00:32:54
you around oh we did okay so now you're upstairs and you're on the phone with the 9-1-1
00:33:00
operator okay do you remain on the phone until the police arrived and the officer
00:33:08
is the one who cuts gets you free yeah he first had to secure the place yes it took me a while to get somebody upstairs
00:33:16
okay and kept screaming okay and I guess they went to my bedroom and I have a pair scissors I cut my hair with yes he
00:33:29
said they cut it for me but it was a little while longer int elastic string so I can be free do
00:33:36
you understand that they are the importance of clear that what they were doing it wasn't to leave you in any kind
00:33:41
of trauma or anything like that did from it's a very tough question considering all the things that you've
00:33:50
gone through tonight Jennifer is any other tying up any of the binding any other things were you sexually assaulted
00:33:57
in any way it wasn't that this was strictly they were after money it from what I thought they were after money
00:34:05
they wanted it now how much money did you turn over - from my personal I had to 2500 2500 and where was that
00:34:20
and where was that in my nightstand underneath the TV okay and that was from work that you had done yeah what do you
00:34:28
do for a living now what are you doing right now heard you're saying about piano are you in school I I recently
00:34:33
lost all my students in piano I had a few yes for a while when how they've gone to university that's I was a
00:34:40
September I didn't have any more students so you were a piano instructor yes out of my own okay just for family
00:34:47
friends here and there also my family needed me home a while and I was doing some piano classes with very good
00:34:57
teacher of mine okay and I'm going back to school in January to to study biotechnology engineering okay detective
00:35:08
Slade was able to ascertain a lot about the evening from Jennifer and said he was happy with the information he had
00:35:13
but he thought he needed to find out a little more about where her mother was that evening the exact location of the
00:35:19
lawn dancing class and if she went elsewhere after line dancing before Slade left the interview room he asked
00:35:26
Jennifer if she consented to her phone records being examined so they could check time stamps for when she was
00:35:32
speaking to Edward on the phone to match the exact time of the home invasion Jennifer agreed Slade then advised
00:35:39
Jennifer not to read the papers or watch TV he didn't want her seeing or reading
00:35:43
things that would cause her distress it was about one and a half hours into the interview when detective Slade left the
00:35:49
room to get the phone record consent forms Jennifer sat with her face in her hands she remains still not crying
00:35:56
she sat like that for over ten minutes before she reached her tissue Jennifer then stood up stretched her
00:36:03
legs and paste a little while holding the chair in the wall she was agitated a noise outside made it jump then she
00:36:11
started to motion with her hands as if she was conducting music she sat back down and again covered her
00:36:17
face with her hands she wiped her eyes she got back up and rocked back and forth on her feet
00:36:22
rubbing her stomach slayed startled her when he opened the door and told her to have a seat
00:36:29
Slade mentioned that her brother Felix was being interviewed next door Jennifer seemed surprised Slade banned
00:36:36
it clear that he felt big heart may have been followed home after line dancing spotted by her attackers driving an
00:36:42
expensive car when detective Slade was filling out the phone record consent form he told Jennifer he was going to go
00:36:49
back and check in on day period my question is as far as deep into this will I look for my phone just like
00:36:59
comment like regular phone calls people really it's just the time stamping of the you know we were putting nine days
00:37:08
down because it may come back to you that I spoke to him and it may be able for us to be able to identify people
00:37:15
that we may need to go back and interview the interest of us is obviously tonight between nine and ten
00:37:23
right but we're just asking for this we're not asking for months and months and months it's nine days that we're
00:37:31
asking for and generally it's because we may come back to you and say okay we want to interview this person and you go
00:37:39
off I don't know where they live but I spoke to them or we got the phone records is this the same person and
00:37:46
we'll have their address at least what is registered to their phone so it's the only reason we're asking for a nine-day
00:37:52
period investigatively if it's not no real significant value other than today right we can sometimes iPhone you know
00:38:03
teacher you know we're not going to go back and interview all those people that's not our intention right so I need
00:38:11
you to fill out this portion for me so owner subscriber it's the same person as this so it's you and you your address
00:38:24
the telephone number and in today's date and then your signature and what it is is before we go into it
00:38:34
it's all this is all being recorded again so it's just that you consent to giving us the records for cellphone
00:38:39
number six four seven nine six five two one one eight and you can send to allow the York Regional Police to access the
00:38:47
phone records the said cellular phone company authorized Rogers for the following billing records incoming and
00:39:00
outcoming numbers dialed registered owner information including credit and payment
00:39:04
history this is really how we link phones to people we confirm that's your phone and the tower site location if
00:39:10
requested for the above-mentioned times and dates towers now become mine just drop and towers become relevant in this
00:39:18
case because of where you are when the phone call comes in on the on today's date right is that it ferns your story
00:39:24
to saying that I was in my room when I made that when the calls came in and that will show up on the tower site
00:39:33
information that's the relevance of the tower site information it also may turn out that maybe during this time period
00:39:38
you were targeted and you were in an area and this enables us to go back and try and look for cameras and other
00:39:47
things through the towers not saying it's going to happen in your case but it's why we asked for tower sites right
00:39:53
tower sites always showing you're on the phone they show you where you're where you are when you're on the phone making
00:39:58
calls and that the above-mentioned records are to be released for the Europe region to the York Regional
00:40:04
Police for the purposes of an investigation of murder of your mum and for the time period I stated November
00:40:10
1st to November 9th this is the part of the consent I am voluntarily giving and sent and I
00:40:17
know that I you don't have to you don't have to do this this is your this is you
00:40:21
volunteering to do this you may withdraw your consent at any time I understand that these records may be used as
00:40:27
evidence against me and may become any part of a criminal proceeding now if you relying on this you know as a part of
00:40:34
this whole process that I explained telling us fictitious information it comes back now the records can also be
00:40:39
used against you if you're telling the truth really point three means nothing okay
00:40:45
but we have to let you know by law that we could use these against you if you're
00:40:49
lying to us so will you will we be in will I be informed of Who am I if anybody if they contacted on that the
00:41:00
chances are if you're going to be so you can almost guarantee that Adrienne and Edward are going to be we're going to
00:41:05
need to speak to that right because Adrienne was in your house remember move on if they're doing forensic
00:41:12
testing in your house to try and get DNA and anything else in there they're also
00:41:16
going to need stuff to eliminate people right so Adrienne was in your house so we need to try and if you win when we
00:41:24
shut this down I'm going to because it doesn't need to be disclosed on video about their personal information I need
00:41:31
to get Adrienne's contact information I need to get Edwards contact information I don't know if we're going to contact
00:41:37
them to tonight or this morning but sometime today they're going to be spoken to okay um
00:41:43
our priority is who was with your mom that's our priority right now okay on but I just tweaked me back how many cars
00:41:52
here deer food is your family the Mercedes in the Lexus and where do your parents park these cars inside the
00:42:03
garage and when they where do they enter the house when they're when they park in
00:42:08
the garage is there an entrance through Raj okay so that's the normal course as they park
00:42:13
unless we plan on going out somewhere we leave the condo driveway instead of having to when you left today that left
00:42:23
tonight after this incident had happened did you see the cars in the garage I did
00:42:28
not I don't believe one of the officers went and competitive cars were still in the garage the garage doors were closed
00:42:36
okay is there any video equipment video cameras or anything system on you didn't
00:42:44
your house caramel corn no okay is there anything else that you can think of that
00:42:51
might help us right now in this investigation the interview finished at 4:30 a.m. the
00:43:07
day following the home invasion Tuesday November 9th Jennifer had to stay with her cousin Michelle DeLong and her aunt
00:43:13
and uncle whose home was less than a mile away from her own her house was a crime scene and there was no way she
00:43:20
could go in and get any of her belongings she was forced to borrow clothes from her cousin her phone
00:43:26
received to text after text from friends asking if she was okay her ex-boyfriend
00:43:31
Daniel Wong heard the news he sent a text at 9 a.m. if you need I'm here for you just hang in there and try to eat
00:43:39
although told by detective Slade not to look at any media reports it was hard not to hear about the reports and
00:43:45
subsequent room is starting to unfold where the pan family caught up in illegal gambling where they links the
00:43:52
gangs or drug crime the waiting media were camped outside the relatives homes as well as the hospital waiting for a
00:43:58
glimpse for possible statement from the only survivor able to speak Jennifer faced lots of questions from both
00:44:05
friends and family the family held a vigil at hands bedside as he laid in an induced coma in the intensive care unit
00:44:12
they listened as the doctor explained how miraculous it was that hen was able to survive the shooting he still had
00:44:19
bullet fragments in his face but the fact that the bullet missed the main artery was what ultimately saved him but
00:44:24
he wasn't out of the woods though we're still unsure if or when he would come out of the coma but there was hope he
00:44:31
would pull through amidst the horror they were confronted with the family were very hopeful and may have the clue
00:44:37
to solve this horrific crime Jennifer asked the doctor if the bullet fragments still in her father's neck could cause
00:44:43
an infection the doctor said no at this point Jennifer borrowed some change from her uncle explaining that
00:44:51
her cell phone had died and she needed to use the payphone he offered for her to use his cell phone but she refused
00:44:57
and again asked for two quarters he handed them to her and she walked out and headed for the payphones located
00:45:03
just up the hall Jennifer called her ex-boyfriend Daniel Wong the day after the invasion police held a press
00:45:11
conference the media scrambled to the Newmarket police headquarters to obtain a glimpse into what the police were
00:45:17
thinking a makeshift stage was erected and York Regional Police Chief Armand de Labarre it was less than a month away
00:45:24
from retirement addressed the waiting press he said quote given the very brutal nature of this crime it goes
00:45:31
without saying that the individuals that are responsible for the home invasion enter the murder last night pose a very
00:45:37
real danger to our community these are for all intents and purposes residents that were just enjoying a nice night
00:45:43
when suddenly three individuals burst into their home and terrorized them in other home invasions there's some
00:45:49
criminal activity involved but in this particular situation there is absolutely no evidence of criminal activity this is
00:45:57
a very lucky man and if not for the grace of God we could have been dealing with two homicides here to shoot an
00:46:04
innocent woman and to shoot an innocent man I mean that's troubling police stated that they believed to the
00:46:12
murderers may have been attracted to the home because of the family's high-end vehicles however they also noted that
00:46:18
neither vehicle was taken as part of the robbery they released descriptions of the attack is provided by Jennifer with
00:46:24
her father still in a coma that's all the information they had to go on police had already made some progress seeing as
00:46:31
a neighbor had a security camera installed at the front of his house the footage captured a car driving away from
00:46:36
the parents house behind the scenes police and forensic teams were combing the house retracing steps and attempting
00:46:44
to get into the heads of the three attackers they couldn't find a clear reason why a hard-working family is
00:46:50
targeted in what they could only describe as a random brutal attack two detectives canvased almost 400 homes
00:46:58
in the neighborhood their job was to establish anything seen or heard but also to find out information about the
00:47:04
Pens that may help them solve the crime while sitting in their vehicle during the canvass someone quietly approached
00:47:10
them and told them that Daniel Wong Jennifer's ex-boyfriend was a drug dealer considering there was a chance
00:47:17
that the invasion was a targeted attack and many home invasions have a drug connection this was an important tip
00:47:24
after a quick system check confirmed that Daniel had prior drug convictions they got to work looking into him there
00:47:32
was no secret amongst officers that the case had divided them half of them felt something just didn't sit right about
00:47:38
the home invasion the other half saw it as a random brutal attack for money on a very unlucky
00:47:43
family information that police were privy to but had not been released to the media was the fact that in the house
00:47:50
they had found the two hundred and forty dollars in big cars purse $60 in hands wallet and $20 in Jennifer's wallet for
00:47:58
intruders hell-bent on finding wallets and money they had left some behind on Thursday November 11th at 9:30 a.m.
00:48:06
Jennifer went back to the police station for another statement the investigators
00:48:11
hoped she may remember more about the home invasion her father hint was still in a coma in the interview room she told
00:48:18
detective Slade she was a little nervous she was wringing her hands constantly he
00:48:23
replied don't worry the truth is always the best way to relieve anxiety he told her she might need to be a witness in
00:48:31
court and Jennifer got visibly upset okay so what we're gonna do now is as I said what what education level do you
00:48:44
have high school have you gone to any other cricket and like after school a higher level of education have you been
00:48:52
working towards anything I'm going to school and I have been on the piano education okay there's no other
00:48:58
education that you've sought like you haven't gone to university at this point in time okay so I want I want you to
00:49:11
forget or put aside the first statement that we had talked of it okay this is going to be where I'm going to
00:49:20
ask you to start from the day okay on the 8th leading up until when you when the police become involved in an
00:49:30
incident that takes place in your house I want you to tell me about your day what you do your interaction with your
00:49:35
parents okay so we're at we are as we're dealing with the incident we're not dealing with your
00:49:40
history right now we're dealing with the incident again to see if anything else comes for getting what you've already
00:49:46
told me and bring you through and self through that day and through the event and we'll see if we're going to see if
00:49:53
we've learned or if you remembered anything else and there's some questions with respect to that statement that I'm
00:50:00
going to ask you about okay so but I'm going to let you start again and let's let's move forward from any time in that
00:50:06
day where you want to start if it's a time you woke up or if it's a time that your first interaction
00:50:10
it's your choice okay I'm just I'm very nervous and I why are you why are you why a nervous tell me about why you're
00:50:19
nervous because I don't want to say the wrong thing oh you saw that day was a lot you're right and I've been scattered
00:50:32
and so bits and pieces are here and some pieces aren't here and I'm just so I want you to sit back in your chair okay
00:50:42
just sit back in your chair take a deep breath okay close your eyes just follow my line to sit back in the
00:50:49
chair for a second sit back relax is the best you can close your eyes and just breathe for a minute okay
00:51:09
we're not in any type of danger or nowhere we're in a very safe place okay and we're going to work through
00:51:19
this and don't worry about what you forget or what you mix up or whatever you're doing is you start and push the
00:51:28
play button for that day and if you stick to everything that you remember happening that day it will come out in
00:51:36
sequence okay and I'm going to show you a technique after we go through this that will stub will show it to you okay
00:51:43
so let's just start you've taken a deep breath you've relaxed you're in a good position right there let's start from
00:51:50
the beginning of the day when you wake up and let's start moving forward from there
00:51:56
Jennifer described the day again she was wringing her hands constantly her face was completely void of emotion she can
00:52:04
describe among going to visit her grandfather so he left to go pick up my aunt and going to my grandfather's and I
00:52:13
went back up to on the computer to do a little studying taking a break and playing some games
00:52:26
remember speaking to anyone during the day on your on your phone or on the on Facebook um later on in the day yes I
00:52:36
spoke to a long time for an Andrew who I went to elementary school with but just
00:52:43
the usual he just asked if we could hang out any time soon but I explained to him
00:52:48
that I wasn't able to leave the house and I couldn't meet up with him so I asked him how his life was his
00:52:56
girlfriend how his job was going my bully that was later on in the day though that wasn't in the afternoon
00:53:03
we'll go in later and they didn't when we talk about your past about why you couldn't leave the house okay so that
00:53:09
isn't that hasn't gone unnoticed but we're not going to talk about that right now we're talking about that day so
00:53:14
continue on detectives already knew what Jennifer was referring to they already knew Jennifer's parents had
00:53:21
ordered her not to leave the house because she had lied to them about what she had been doing what she had been
00:53:26
doing for the past decade the interview continued Jennifer talked through the evening again dinner with her mum her
00:53:35
friend Adrienne coming over to watch TV this time Jennifer mentioned that when she went upstairs to her bedroom to
00:53:41
watch TV she talked to her friend Andrew again the old school friend she had talked to earlier in the day this is the
00:53:49
third time she had recounted the story of the evening but the first time she mentioned this quarter Andrew she then
00:53:56
described with her call to Edward Edward was the friend she hung up on when the home invasion started I go back up my
00:54:03
stairs and I call ed again okay and I had used to wash them so I did put him on mute for a quick second and then I
00:54:12
came back and I was just watching TV and talking with it okay how long are you now upstairs on the phone with it with
00:54:19
Edward I'm sorry with that time frame I I'm not sure okay your cell phone records are going to give us the exact
00:54:30
times okay so all right have you talked to anyone else is it you hang up with Edward go down and see your mom come
00:54:39
back upstairs call Edward use the washroom on the phone with Edward still have you talked to anyone else come on
00:54:48
okay have you text message anyone else how many don't believe I had didn't do you have more than one phone I had one
00:55:00
but I keep that I just keep the SIM card yes um again we will go into it in the history sure but uh my cell phone gets
00:55:09
taken away from me sometimes okay and so I had a friend of mine Daniel he bought
00:55:15
he got a SIM card for me to use sometimes but I take the SIM card out when I finish it and I know like keep it
00:55:21
in my pocket so my parents wouldn't find it yes but I don't remember the last time I I used it okay but you didn't use
00:55:30
that SIM card that day I did not no you did not I don't want that Alessa maybe it was a few days
00:55:37
before that it was the last time I remember using it was when my grandfather I was in the hospital and I
00:55:44
had messaged him and he asked me how my grandfather was and how long when is that timeframe that your grandfather
00:55:49
went in laws but he was in a hospital for about ten days ten days okay so that's the last time you remember using
00:55:56
that SIM card associated to from what your friend had given ya was about ten days earlier or even twelve days earlier
00:56:04
because I believe you said your grandfather had come out of the hospital or was he still in the hospital no he
00:56:09
was in the hospital for ten days yes on Saturday he had gone back to his nursing
00:56:15
home and this is Monday worse so it's about 12 to 14 days earlier that this app that do you see you use the SIM card
00:56:23
you're guessing with he probably want within a week within a week yeah because I've never seen Limon days is that we
00:56:31
were saying it because I messaged him when my grandfather was in the hospital okay and where is that SIM card now I'm
00:56:39
not sure I don't remember I had it in my jacket pocket but I don't remember where
00:56:45
it is now okay Jennifer's story of the home invasion changed from her first interview detective Slade was aware of
00:56:54
the change in her story and continued to ask for clarity as Jennifer recalled different places the three men were and
00:57:00
the different things they said Jennifer started to sob Slade handed her a tissue
00:57:05
he pushed her to keep going with her memories he wanted her to feel at ease he was on their side he was listening
00:57:13
it's not uncommon for witnesses to remember more details or have changes in their story especially in highly
00:57:19
stressful and traumatic situations such as Jennifer faced in an adjacent room other detectives
00:57:26
were watching the interview as it happened - for a video link detective al Cook watched carefully as Jennifer salt
00:57:32
and wiped her face he couldn't see any tears Jennifer sobbed the she recounted hearing the Pops of the gun down in the
00:57:41
basement pop pop pop she said she thought the men went out the front door her father then came up the basement
00:57:50
steps moaning as she called 9-1-1 she called out to her dad but he didn't go to her he ran out the front door out
00:57:58
into the street where he collapsed on the ground and was seen by the neighbor going to work detective out-cook was
00:58:05
still watching in an adjoining room he noticed how Jennifer was describing the way her father ran from the house
00:58:10
screaming Cooke found it interesting that hands daughter was yelling for him he knew she was upstairs but instead of
00:58:17
running upstairs to see if she was okay he ran straight out the front door detective Slade listened as Jennifer
00:58:25
struggled to retell the story when she was done he made her tell about woods he continued to tell her what a great job
00:58:32
she was doing and not to worry when she thought she said something wrong Jennifer was then asked her account
00:58:37
exactly how she made the 9-1-1 call Slade got her to stand up and act it out Slade it's obviously very relevant we
00:58:47
know you made the phone call but questions are obviously going to be raised that if my hands are bound and
00:58:52
I'm against the railing how do i talk to a 9-1-1 operator Jennifer screwed her eyes up as she
00:58:58
looked at the technics laid slate and how did you manage to tuck your phone into the waistband without it slipping
00:59:05
down or without the intruders noticing it Jennifer took a large sip of water a deep breath and removed her sweater she
00:59:14
slipped the fake phone given to her by Slade into her waistband while keeping her wrists together in a display of
00:59:20
being bound Jennifer twisted herself trying to reenact to the call she pressed the buttons and then attempted
00:59:26
to lift the phone up towards her ear while still keeping her wrists together the phone didn't reach she said the
00:59:33
slate I'm yelling at the phone like this the phone was about a foot and a half from her ear
00:59:39
the detectives had heard bits and pieces about Jennifer's past they had spoken to
00:59:44
family members and friends and knew some of the answers to questions Slade was asking but they needed to hear it from
00:59:50
Jennifer what I want to do now is I want to go into your past okay and start talking about things that have been
01:00:01
going on with you it in in relation to your life okay you know not I'm not going back to childhood that's not my
01:00:12
interest is obviously in the last few years is what's going on do you have a boyfriend I had a poison needle with
01:00:23
which which what was your boyfriend's to me um Daniel what one tell me about your
01:00:29
relationship with you and Daniel it was a really tough one we went to high school together
01:00:40
he helped me through a really difficult time in high school when I didn't have asthma but it it wasn't a concern it was
01:00:51
only a concern when I was younger but when I went over to Europe a lot of sick people were smoking cigarettes and it
01:01:01
acted up over there and he took care of me when did you go to Europe 2003 okay how long were you there under
01:01:15
two weeks you think okay so this is 2003 when you and Danny were two started dating well later on into that you're
01:01:24
just friends okay what grade were you in it so how does your relationship with did Danny
01:01:32
develop where is it going how long does it last last about six years um it began in the
01:01:42
summer of 2003 before my grade 12 you we were just really good friends and I guess it just happened like we just
01:01:53
started going out well saying that we were going out but um I didn't really get to see how much talk to that why
01:02:03
didn't get the chance to see how much I wasn't allowed to have a boyfriend and that was when you were 18 17 turning in
01:02:14
your 18th year 11 are going to riddle any people okay and so who was against you having a boyfriend your father how
01:02:26
are your mother in this she took a backseat to his opinion um she would tell me I gotta find someone who was
01:02:38
devoted to me but at that time she just my father was the one that enforced the rules what were the issues your father
01:02:46
had with a boyfriend was it Danny in particular dinner was it just a boy just any boy had one so what happens how are
01:02:56
you saying that you're not allowed to see this what what I know I know that there's certain ways that you can still
01:03:03
get around your father not allowing you to see it when in grade 12 we went to school together he transferred out but
01:03:11
he'd come over I to our original high school and he'd come see me okay and once in a while I'd go in
01:03:20
skip class and go see him so you were seeing you were dating him essentially without your parents knowledge and
01:03:26
consent yes what would they have done to you if they found out and did they find
01:03:31
it not in high school okay so you finish high school and then what do you do when you finish high school I
01:03:43
was I wanted to do kinesiology but my my father was very adamant on doing something in the medical field
01:03:54
that was a little bit more in his opinion more like a more successful I guess you can say you know I didn't have
01:04:07
the stomach for being a doctor so he wanted me to become a pharmacist okay did you go to school for pharmacy to get
01:04:15
any university for pharmacy so if your being finished your grade 12 equal to Y your oh I see you
01:04:22
like grade 12 is your finish your oh I see here I don't have a I didn't he'll only see I finish my paper and then
01:04:28
where where do you what do you do for the next few years while your dad's want you to get into the medical field what
01:04:34
do you do I was trying to get into channel which school I I was still taking classes at a conservative a
01:04:43
school but I still recognized in the community as a teacher's license through the Royal Conservatory okay so how is
01:04:53
this interaction how is this going with your dad how is the how is your home life with the your not now not living up
01:05:01
to his expectations you didn't know I lied to him what did you lie to him what did you tell him that I was going to
01:05:07
school for for just pre-med not pre-med sorry fines sorry - life science you would
01:05:17
have had bills for school how is how is that coming up how are these bills being
01:05:21
paid for for university that you weren't going I was working at Eastside Mario's
01:05:25
and I took care of myself so financially my father was never he never took hand in bills so he didn't
01:05:38
know anything about bills your mom know that you weren't going university no so both your parents thought you had gone
01:05:44
to university yes okay and how long did that how long did they still to this point in time think that you had gone to
01:05:53
university for for pharmacy for sciences and how did you feel about that how did
01:06:02
you feel about having to lie to your parents I felt guilty but every time I tried to bring it up there was just so
01:06:12
much so much expectation did you have any resentment towards him for this I chose what I chose but in the end I
01:06:26
chose my family okay so now you're not allowed to see boys how do you continue really your relationship while you're
01:06:35
supposed to be at university working at each side mario's are you working during
01:06:38
the day too you said Mary um sometimes but not all the time so how do how do you maintain this relationship with with
01:06:47
Dan um I bust down to see him or my parents who drive me down to Toronto and they thought I was getting going to
01:06:57
school but I'd go see him and I'd come back what school did they figure going to Bryce okay
01:07:05
was Daniel aware of what was going on in here with the issues in your life with your parents not at first but eventually
01:07:11
he found it okay and what would your parents do find out did they ever find out that you were dating Dan Daniel
01:07:22
eventually how long into their relationship was there say five years five years so that brings you up to 2008
01:07:30
or 2009 2008 2007 2006 well where they come to pick me up and how did that go over not well
01:07:52
explained to me what not well means my mother she said at first she was like not supportive but she said you need to
01:08:09
tell me and she basically gave me the the sex talk which basically was one moment could ruin your entire life but
01:08:23
once my father found out without even knowing him he automatically put judgment what kind of judgment did your
01:08:31
father pass on him he blamed my line and even racial profiling on him and what does that mean I don't know
01:08:45
about the racial profile um he is half Filipino half Chinese and my father associated him with Filipino and said
01:08:56
that you know he wasn't a good match for me he wasn't going anywhere in life and
01:09:02
[Music] that he wouldn't be able to support my family so tell me about about Daniel
01:09:14
we've interviewed in ok Daniel Wong had been called in the day before and interviewed he was already on the list
01:09:23
to be interviewed but after the tip about his drug convictions he moved further up that list dressed in a black
01:09:30
sweater and glasses he looked tired and a little unkempt he said he had a cold he had a good rapport with detective
01:09:37
Robert Milligan who was interviewing him Milligan started the interview by saying
01:09:42
just so you know we interview everybody everybody who is known the family at some point in the last 10-15 years so we
01:09:50
can say we interviewed everybody so you're not anything special compared to everybody else
01:09:55
Daniel who was 25 years old was calm and relaxed throughout his entire interview
01:10:00
even when asked pointed questions about his drug-dealing history he answered calmly and confidently Daniel relayed
01:10:08
his past with Jennifer he told Milligan about their on-and-off relationship which ended about two years
01:10:13
prior when her parents found out and delivered an ultimatum they were forced apart by Jennifer's parents and he said
01:10:20
he respected that okay again like I don't know whether who was who was behind it right I just know that her
01:10:30
parents they don't want us to be a family didn't want us to be together and I respected that decision and I moved on
01:10:37
now why didn't her family be good I don't know there's so many different like I asked her the first time and she
01:10:43
said it was um because I didn't make enough money like I was working a possum Pizza and she told him I finished
01:10:49
engineering and they're like oh whoa why they finished and meaning and just broke
01:10:54
a Boston Pizza why wasn't he called make sixty seventy thousand being an engineer
01:10:58
and then and then after that the next time master she's like it's not even about how much money you make it's the
01:11:05
fact that they're Filipino and I'm like how is that possible when your cousin just married a Filipino guy she's like
01:11:12
well my nobody the family likes him bah bah bah bah bah so there's always a reason why we couldn't be together think
01:11:19
that her pain I don't know what their reasons alright there other reasons all those were the reasons but what do you
01:11:26
think what is what do you think cuz you've been in the industry you've dealt with talent and how they won't see you
01:11:32
doubled over and I won't have to go there yeah but in the industry what do you think people would kill somebody
01:11:38
over see a number yes if someone were to it'd have to be around $10,000 someone would like add I
01:11:52
pretty much picture for about $10,000 I'm gonna do something like that Daniel described the seven years of his
01:12:01
and Jennifer's relationship behind her parents backs and started to unravel the twisted ball of bizarre behaviors and
01:12:07
lies that Jennifer used to keep up the charade to her family Daniel said to Detective Milligan that when the final
01:12:15
ultimatum came from Jennifer's parents to end their relationship he knew it was for the best he knew they had no long
01:12:21
term life together he had never spent more than a few minutes with him and big high in all
01:12:27
that time never shared a meal or even had a conversation with him he accepted it and moved on he said she was a
01:12:34
prisoner it was hard daniel said since their breakup in 2009 they had more or less been estranged describing their
01:12:43
infrequent conversations he said she tries to call me if I answer I answer or I'll call her sort of thing just to see
01:12:51
how she's doing he said Jennifer never had any involvement with his drug dealing he
01:12:56
told her never to touch it detective Milligan was interested in the reason why an estranged ex couple had
01:13:02
been in quite a lot of contact in the previous few months Daniel said lately it's just been happening more and more
01:13:08
an unknown person would call and not answer and it would just go quiet for ten seconds and then they'd hang up that
01:13:15
would happen over and over and when I would not answer it would get worse and worse it got ridiculous it was up to a
01:13:20
hundred times at night over time Daniel says he began receiving text messages of
01:13:25
a more threatening nature texts like hahaha bang bang bang he said Jennifer had contacted him
01:13:32
complaining that she too was receiving similar messages so that's why they had been in frequent contact in recent times
01:13:40
Daniel admitted he was worried that he would be targeted next he said yeah I am worried for my safety I haven't slept
01:13:47
because I don't know who it is if it's the crank callers they call my house they call my cell phone so they have my
01:13:54
address it's pretty obvious if they got access to finding her address through her phone number
01:13:58
they can find my address through my phone number my mum couldn't sleep either it kept going through my head who
01:14:06
could it be who is it is it really just a random break-in enter it's actually the phone calls and the other stuff that
01:14:12
I think it's related to the following day in Jennifer's interview she told the tech beep Slade she was given the
01:14:18
ultimatum by her parents a year and a half earlier when she was about 23 when they caught her the last time seeing
01:14:25
Daniel she says her father told her she must take the tubes Daniel or choose them
01:14:29
she said she chose to stay home with her family hands words to Jennifer were cease your relationship with Daniel Wong
01:14:37
if not you have to wait till on bed even as an adult in her 20s her parents were still controlling every
01:14:45
aspect of her life the reasons why was starting to become clear after being sniper valedictorian in
01:14:55
grade 8 and not doing as well academically as she had hoped things started to spiral for Jennifer
01:15:00
Karen Howe a journalist who went to school with Jennifer wrote an article for Toronto Life the following is taken
01:15:07
from that article quote a close observer might have noticed that Jennifer seemed
01:15:12
off but I never did oz a year behind her at Mary Ward Catholic Secondary in North Scarborough
01:15:18
as far as Catholic schools go it was something of an anomaly I had the usual high academic standards
01:15:24
in strict dress code mixed with a decidedly bohemian vibe it was easy to find your tribe bright kids and Hardy
01:15:31
misfits hung out together across subjects grades and social groups if you played three instruments took advanced
01:15:37
classes competed on the ski team in starting the school's annual international night a showcase of
01:15:43
various cultures around the world you were cool it was the perfect community through student like Jennifer a social
01:15:50
butterfly with an easy high-pitched laugh she mixed with God's girls Asians Caucasians jocks nerds people deep into
01:15:58
the arts at five foot seven she was taller than most of the other Asian girls at the school and pretty but plain
01:16:05
she rarely wore makeup she had small ground wire frame glasses that when a the stylish Noir
01:16:11
expensive and she kept her hair straight and unstyled Jennifer and I both played
01:16:16
the flute though she was in the senior stage band and I was in junior we would interact in the band room had dozens of
01:16:22
mutual acquaintances and were friends on Facebook in conversation she always seemed focused on the moment if you had
01:16:29
her attention you had it completely and quote from the article it was at this time in Jennifer's life that she started
01:16:38
to turn away from studying hard and stopped dedicating herself a school instead of getting straight A's
01:16:44
she was averaging 70% in all her classes in the barely achieving B's not quite the high mark she needed to get into the
01:16:51
pharmacology program at the University of Toronto her father expected his children would be the top of their
01:16:57
classes to get into the best college which would lead them to high-paying careers so bees weren't going to cut it
01:17:04
and so started a decade of Lies that would spin so deep even Jennifer got confused between what was a lie and what
01:17:11
was the truth instead of telling her parents about her high school grades she decided to forge her report card
01:17:18
she used templates from old reports use scissors glue and photocopied them to create new ones Jennifer also started
01:17:26
cutting herself small cuts on her forearms there was a hint of her hidden torment behind the happy mask she was
01:17:32
wearing at the time her parents were proud when she brought home a's they were thrilled when she graduated high
01:17:39
school and they were so proud when she received scholarship letters and an early admission offer into rice and
01:17:44
university it wasn't Toronto University but she planned to start a science degree and
01:17:49
move over to Toronto after a couple of years she had worked hard in her parents eyes and was achieving what they had
01:17:56
only imagined possible for her hen was so pleased that he bought her a laptop but there was one problem Jennifer
01:18:04
didn't graduate high school she failed her last semester of calculus a high school subject she would have to repay
01:18:10
in order to graduate she failed high school and Ryerson withdrew their offer instead of coming
01:18:16
clean Jennifer's spiral of Lies grew deeper she spent the summer preparing for university she bought secondhand biology
01:18:24
and physics books and set the wheels in motion for beginning the academic year in September she pretended to attend her
01:18:30
orientation week she forged papers stating she was receiving a loan that she would pay off and convinced her dad
01:18:36
she'd won a three thousand dollar scholarship she pretended to make her way to the University campus half an
01:18:42
hour at way and even accepted lifts from her parents day after day she was keeping up the charade she would pack a
01:18:49
book bag and go to the library filling notebooks full of pretend class notes and she searched the web for course
01:18:55
related topics by this time Daniel Wang was at York University taking classes and they were seeing each other in
01:19:02
secret her parents had found out about their relationship and put a stop to it immediately Jennifer just told them what
01:19:08
they wanted to hear that her and Daniel had broken up but then she went behind their backs she spent a lot of her spare
01:19:14
time visiting Daniel at York she took on a part-time job taught piano lessons and
01:19:19
later on worked at Boston Pizza where Daniel worked as a kitchen manager he knew she was faking her studies and he
01:19:26
helped her hide the secret Jennifer came up with a false acceptance letter into the pharmacology program at the
01:19:33
University of Toronto complete with a made-up scholarship for tuition she continued to tell the parents she was
01:19:39
staying with her friend a couple of nights a week as a parent saw it she was working hard towards her goals and they
01:19:45
supported her it wasn't just her family she was lying to friends too she over exaggerated her father's control telling
01:19:54
friends he had hired a private investigator to follow her so her friends thought Jennifer had no other
01:19:59
choice but to live a lie in February 2009 Jennifer wrote two separate Facebook posts the first living in my house is
01:20:09
like living under house arrest and the second no one person knows everything about me and to know two people put
01:20:17
together know everything about me I like being a mystery she wasn't afraid of letting people know
01:20:23
about her parents controlling ways han and big ha could not have been more proud than they
01:20:28
were when Jennifer came home and told them she had been given a volunteer position at the Toronto Hospital for
01:20:33
Sick Children in a blood testing lab they understood when the position started Jennifer would be required for
01:20:39
late night shifts and weekends Jennifer suggests that it might be better she spent more nights at a
01:20:44
friend's place bekar convinced him to let her stay away when it came time to graduate from the University of Toronto
01:20:52
Daniel helped Jennifer hire someone online to fake a full college graduation transcript complete with straight A's
01:20:58
she told her parents that the graduating class was so large that there weren't enough seats for two guests each and so
01:21:05
she was only allowed to invite one person she said she couldn't possibly choose between her two parents so she
01:21:11
would take a friend instead when her dad asked her where the pictures were she made up an excuse in September 2009 just
01:21:20
over a year before the home invasion he noticed that Jennifer didn't have any uniform for her Hospital job nor did she
01:21:27
have any form of ID which he knew hospitals required the following day without saying anything to Jennifer he
01:21:34
insisted that he and her mother drive her to the hospital they dropped her off in Han parked the car he asked be car to
01:21:41
follow their daughter in to see where she went Jennifer knew her mother was following
01:21:45
her so she went to the waiting room of the ER and hid for three hours until she was sure that were gone the next morning
01:21:52
Hann called topes Jennifer's friend she had been staying with except topes told him Jennifer hadn't been staying with
01:22:00
her at all when Jennifer arrived home that day her father and mother were waiting for her they wanted to know what
01:22:06
the hell was going on Jennifer confessed she wasn't volunteering at the hospital
01:22:11
she had never been enrolled at the University of Toronto and she had not studied pharmacology for the four years
01:22:17
prior it had all been a lie she also confessed that she had been living three days a week with Daniel and his family
01:22:24
Jennifer never lived with topaz she had never stayed there Monday through Wednesday she stayed with Daniel and his
01:22:30
family she was a part of Daniels family and meanwhile her parents the even know they were still in contact
01:22:37
Jennifer had told Daniels parents that Han and Bakar were okay with her living with them half the week they repeatedly
01:22:43
asked the meet appearance but she always had an excuse hen and big heart ordered
01:22:49
her to reapply for the University of Toronto to gain her degree she had her credits from Ryerson behind her she
01:22:55
would have no problem but she did have a problem she never went to Ryerson but she didn't confess that to them she kept
01:23:04
the charade going that she had partially studied at Ryerson University she didn't
01:23:08
want to come clean about everything and if they were this mad about her lying about Toronto University how would they
01:23:14
react if they found out she never finished high school and never went to Ryerson and and big
01:23:19
heart felt like they didn't know their own daughter she was a stranger in her own family and tried to kick Jennifer
01:23:25
out of the house she was a disgrace to the family what she had done was unforgivable he never wanted to see her
01:23:31
again big hair was devastated but she was also devastated to think what might happen to
01:23:37
her daughter if they kicked her out she convinced him to let her stay for two weeks Jennifer was house parent her
01:23:44
mother by her side nearly constantly she wasn't allowed to go anywhere on her own
01:23:49
she had her cellphone and laptop taken away and she was forced to quit all her jobs except piano tutoring where they
01:23:55
could keep an eye on her she was forced to repay her parents for all the money they had given her for her studies they
01:24:02
eventually found out about high school too and Jennifer was forced to go back to complete the high school calculus
01:24:07
course and start the process again for her future she was given a strict curfew of 9:00 p.m. and every aspect of her
01:24:13
life was monitored over the months that followed her mother occasionally weakened enough to allow Jennifer to
01:24:20
know where her dad did he didn't know phone allowing her to check her messages because sometimes stood up for Jennifer
01:24:26
during argument she had with her father because sometimes said that he had to remember she had already grown up
01:24:32
let her be yourself too much interference will not be good so though sticking by her husband and following
01:24:39
his wishes a piece of her understood her daughter's torment once Jennifer started
01:24:44
to gain back some trust with their parents they aged up and allowed her to have restricted time with her phone and
01:24:49
to sometimes go places alone they still checked her messages and the odometer on the car though Jennifer and
01:24:56
Daniel would sneak phone calls and she would often ask a mutual friend Gary to drive her to Daniel's and pick her up
01:25:01
again still lying to her parents about where she was she continued to visit Daniel in secret even sneaking out
01:25:08
overnight arranging her bed covers to look like she was in bed but her mum found out she was grounded completely
01:25:15
and - now even her mother wanted her to be completely cut off from Daniel in 2009 around a year before the home
01:25:23
invasion Daniel had grown sick of their secret relationship by then Jennifer was 24 and
01:25:28
they were still thinking around like teenagers he was tired of the threats her parents constantly made and the fact
01:25:34
that Jennifer wouldn't stand up to them and to move out he broke it off for good
01:25:38
and by February 2010 he was seeing a new girlfriend Christine Jennifer was desperate to hold on to
01:25:45
Daniel she was adamant that they still needed each other and she went to extreme lengths to gain his attention in
01:25:52
Jennifer's second interview she admitted to detectives Slade that over the months
01:25:56
that followed their breakup she lied to Daniel to get his attention early in 2010 Jennifer made up a story
01:26:03
where she answered the door of her home to find a man posing as a police officer
01:26:07
she said that he and other men then forced their way in and sexually assaulted her
01:26:11
she told Daniel she knew it was Christine who had arranged the attack as a warning to stay away from Daniel she
01:26:18
also admitted to lying about a string of text message threats and to receiving a
01:26:21
bullet through the mail as part of a death threat Jennifer couldn't handle being without Daniel so she tried to
01:26:28
come up with a plan that would keep them together by the end of June of his second interview with Slade
01:26:34
he told Jennifer he was grateful she had been honest to which she replied there is also one other thing we were getting
01:26:41
private phone calls at my house as well I never told my brother because he was at school
01:26:46
when we picked up they would always hang up like I said Monday's my mother would
01:26:51
go dancing and one time while she was gone the phone rang I picked it up my father
01:26:56
was already on the phone there was a woman on the other line I don't know who was and they were speaking Chinese my
01:27:03
father didn't know I was on the line but this woman was saying you have to come over right away right away you have to
01:27:09
come now and my father kept saying I can't come near the woman said I don't care you have to come now
01:27:18
Jennifer explained to Detective Slade that her father left the house in a hurry saying he had to go and fix a
01:27:24
leaking tap at her aunt's place but she didn't believe the woman to be her auntie after hearing this Slade too left
01:27:31
the room Jennifer started to breathe heavily she got up and started pacing after 25 minutes an officer walked in
01:27:39
and offered to take Jennifer to the bathroom and offered her candy Jennifer accepted afterwards they both returned
01:27:46
to the room and then the officer stayed with Jennifer barely audible Jennifer spat out words with no consistency while
01:27:53
pacing back and forth I'm just being myself up he's asking me these questions like I should have been more attentive
01:27:59
but it just happened so fast and it's like and I can't give him the answers and I don't know I wish I was able to
01:28:06
answer I want to be able to answer it so it would help Jennifer turned to the officer and asked have they been able to
01:28:15
find out anything did they have any leads or suspects does anyone know where the car went
01:28:20
after she didn't get an answer Jennifer we spent a little to herself and started Rocking after nearly 30
01:28:29
minutes detective Slade returned [Music] hi Jennifer hey here take some Kleenex take some Kleenex tell me what you're
01:28:49
feeling right now what's going on you might as well get used to this you got to get it out so tell me what you're
01:29:00
feeling right now I'm just kind of like if it means like I should've it's a thing called survivor's guilt okay that
01:29:17
you're gonna go through you're gonna you're going to nd then this is the stuff about the therapy and and getting
01:29:23
to speak to someone because there's stages of grieving you're going to go through okay and this is the only way
01:29:30
you're going to go through this is with properly is with health I think Victim Services is engaged right
01:29:35
there they're trying to help you so just stick with this it's a long road but it
01:29:40
can be a very successful okay and and what you're feeling I hate to say is normal but it is it's something that a
01:29:49
lot of people who are in the same circumstance will feel okay but what I want to do is I want to finish off on
01:29:56
this so that we can let you go and get and get on get out of the police station okay because I appreciate your time and
01:30:03
I appreciate your help so what is in the safe last time I opened it Milan to better
01:30:19
passwords and I I she's a few as the combination I don't have the combination you don't have the combination for the
01:30:29
safe just your mom okay and so there was passports no large quantities of cash in
01:30:35
there not that I'm not that I know of because she asked me to help pay for our two trips okay and what did you get that
01:30:52
what did you have the two thousand dollars for what did you where did you make that money I had I was saving up to
01:31:02
get a new cell phone do you have a blackberry I gave it today okay rather give it to me that's right
01:31:10
but you have so the BlackBerry is it in your name that you've given the Dania so
01:31:14
does Danny was yours and you've given it tonight my brother's friend didn't it was an old
01:31:18
Blackberry and my brother's friend gave it to him and I gave it I gave it today when did you give it to Daniel I gave it
01:31:34
to a friend to give to Daniel how long ago couple week we could go a week what's the pin command for that you know
01:31:47
do you have a personal identification number for security reasons have you ever been given that by my blackberry
01:31:52
no no dish there's no lock that you know okay so Daniel is was and likely still remains to be a drug dealer
01:32:08
self-admitted when he was in the air the other day no so stepping back from that is I had
01:32:14
asked you is prior to the incident when's the last time you spoke to Daniel what I should have said to you is when
01:32:20
is the last time from today for back that you spoke to Daniel when is the last time you met with them and spoke
01:32:27
I saw him here yesterday when I was meeting did you talk to him just briefly you didn't see him or talk to him any
01:32:36
other times other than right here in the police station and if I told you that Daniel says that you spoke to him you
01:32:47
did have a conversation with him somewhere else she would be lying [Music] the last time I spoke to him when he
01:33:12
asked for the BlackBerry and that was a week ago yes because my grandfather had just he was in the hospital and I snuck
01:33:25
over and dropped it off for a friend at his paintball place and who is the friend that you gave it to I all know
01:33:32
his first name hustle Tristan and where's the paintball place Victoria Park in Munich oh right at Victoria Park
01:33:42
an example between McNichol and steals on Victoria Park when there's a lot of people remember I told you about the
01:33:55
media they're bad they can be very bad when they start to sniff around and they sense something and I can tell you that
01:34:03
the media is portraying that this was supposed to be some sort of drug-related that you guys weren't a random target
01:34:11
that you were a targeted house because of drug activity what would you say to that I don't deal the jobs okay tell me
01:34:26
more about that you don't deal the drugs are you involved in the transportation and just for distribution have you ever
01:34:32
been with Danny this is something that's very important have you ever been with Danny when Danny's doing that he
01:34:39
normally leaves me with a friend and says he's going out with his friend the so when you go and see him for once
01:34:46
during the time once it once a week I I tell my parents that I was going to class yes and before class or after
01:34:54
class as go buy him lunch and bring it by his work and sometimes I would see him and sometimes I just give it to a
01:35:00
co-worker to distance and how long when you see him how long would you see him for 10 minutes 15 minutes because he was
01:35:07
working when you weren't when he wasn't working and you were able to get out and
01:35:11
see him how long hasn't happened in a 1-point and how long's a long time the last time I saw him outside of that was
01:35:19
when Gary picking up and I got popped on my parents and that was I'd say a year if not a
01:35:24
year and a half and why why did he want your blackberry he said that he had sold
01:35:31
his blackberry so he needed a phone and that Blackberry what like I'm kind of confused as was that an act of full no
01:35:44
now we're talking about three phones now we're taught her that we got a SIM card
01:35:47
we got the phone that your parents know you have and you got a blackberry up until a week ago yes the BlackBerry is
01:35:55
what I was using with my own Roger SIM card the phone I'm using now was an old phone that I no longer used okay so
01:36:03
here's the receptionist the BlackBerry was your normal phone that you were using on a regular basis and and you
01:36:11
would switch SIM cards so if you were going to communicate with him with the other SIM card you put the same pair in
01:36:15
that Blackberry and talk to him through that I had an iPhone I don't know I kept
01:36:20
in my room that my parents I'd know about um cuz my brother I had one that Daniel gave me earlier but it broke dude
01:36:27
so my brother he what he did with t6 apart so he can have one that he used himself but the one I had wasn't fully
01:36:34
functioning it was just able I had no internet access on it so I just kept it for phone calls and I kept it hidden
01:36:42
where is that phone now it should be still on like in my room yes where I believe those on my laptop table or
01:36:54
something on my counter and it doesn't have a SIM card in it right now no I don't keep this in part in it just
01:37:00
in case my parents asked okay so there's an iPhone on by your desk on your desk somewhere in that in your room
01:37:09
and the Rogers those I mean the BlackBerry that you had had up into a week and it went to Daniel and and for
01:37:18
what reason it went today he had a but another a newer blackberry but he said someone wanted to buy it
01:37:24
like a friend of his wanted to buy it and that he needed a phone temporarily I would to a fearful so I I had another
01:37:31
phone as well so I said okay I'll lend you this one so it sounds as if you couldn't let
01:37:41
Danny go like you're you're still there you're still hoping the hope isn't much but what you're still hoping I still
01:37:50
you're not you're not walking away from it right you haven't walked away from him even with the comments that you've
01:37:56
received these comments from I had and then but I had for awhile I disappeared from him for a while but I needed it was
01:38:11
just he he's that calm but he can even make me calm so I reached back up to him so is the cooler is it you instigating
01:38:21
all the communication or does he reach but does he start each battle all okay now you have to figure as I said the
01:38:32
media can be horrific in some cases and I'd told you you not to read our pay attention to the news I
01:38:38
know for a fact that in one of the newspapers but the angle that's being portrayed it right now is that this was
01:38:45
a drug that you guys were not a random but a targeted residence because of drug-related activity you and your
01:38:54
family were engaged in drug-related activity now is it possible that Danny that you are being mistaken somehow as
01:39:07
being involved in his life and that angle of things well I haven't been around his life in a while like going
01:39:13
out with him but I wouldn't say completely out of the question but I haven't I don't I don't go around with
01:39:23
him when he's doing that kind of stuff I I don't like it and I refuse to be a part of that
01:39:29
then they started talking about Daniel's girlfriend Christine Jennifer encouraged
01:39:34
the conversation when I steered towards Christine being involved in drug running
01:39:38
detective Slade asked how would you feel if Daniel is the one through whatever activity who has brought this back to
01:39:45
you Jennifer didn't reply counting both interviews Slade had by now interviewed Jennifer for over five hours just over
01:39:54
the five Ella Marquis asked so you're telling me that you've you had no involvement in what happened
01:40:02
meaning not saying how they outcome came but you you had no involvement in in any
01:40:07
type of illegal activity that would have drawn you or the attention of you to have bad people come to your house
01:40:14
looking for large sums of money you're not involved in this any which way because the question obviously stands
01:40:25
jennifer is you're upstairs and they're downstairs right so it's a natural concern when why would they leave you
01:40:39
alone why would they not do the same to you you can't answer that question only I
01:40:53
can say if you said I cooperated but I asked him to take me the number one guy the number one guy said you cooperated
01:41:03
okay there's no you had no threats and again we're back to the fact that you admittedly lied okay not to me right not
01:41:14
to me well you admittedly lied you've lied to your parents right about going to school
01:41:22
you've lied to Danny about being Daniel about being raped and about receiving a bullet who's to say this whole thing is
01:41:32
in a line that what you're telling me is a lie because if you are lying it's the most
01:41:39
cold-blooded thing that I have ever faced in my life there is nothing that you've said to me
01:42:00
today is a lie and I want to thirty wanted crew just put a little preamble not nothing in here that you might have
01:42:09
mistaken because of order of events I'm saying to you right now is there anything through the course of your
01:42:18
statement today or you've lied to me from your interaction with Danny Daniel from your I'm not involved in drugs and
01:42:32
I don't have anything to do with them and we don't have large sums of money what about life insurance policies do
01:42:38
your parents have life insurance policies I I think I don't know didn't know they had a he had a I I have one of
01:42:53
myself yes and my mom they used to have one for me when I was younger okay but a half says I went to education
01:43:03
half went to life insurance and when they found out I I didn't go to university they they asked for the money
01:43:16
so hang on a second here you told to me that you told me that they never knew you didn't go to university when did
01:43:22
they find out that you didn't go to university I told them that I graduated but I never went to university that I
01:43:30
went for two years but I never finished okay and they wanted the money back as a
01:43:36
result of that so you did actually tell your parents somewhat of the tree that you never went to university or but it's
01:43:41
it's half truth yes so back to this line is where we're talking about the fact that of the line right is that it I
01:43:55
don't deal the drugs I don't associate with that okay I honest I don't now back to another very difficult question but
01:44:09
if I don't ask it and I'm gonna be you it's an obvious one the resentment that you had that you may
01:44:14
have had toward your parents for the interference and your relationship in your life and essentially locking you
01:44:20
down in your house at the end of the day I love my parents and I chose to be with
01:44:27
them and if I wanted to I could have just left but I didn't I wanted to stay with them and take care of them so this
01:44:39
wasn't some evil plot that you thought up - oh my god no no interaction no beliefs no you didn't have anything to
01:44:49
do with this thing at all whatsoever you don't engage in illegal activity no because you know that it'll be very
01:44:57
easily it will be a very easy thing to discredit you on right we're in the process of trying to add credibility to
01:45:03
what you tell us and that's through the process of asking people in doing whatever through that same process it
01:45:08
will be very easy to find the flaws and what you've said which again then turns to focus back to you okay it's a natural
01:45:18
progress it's a natural thing that investigators do we eliminate people or we draw our attention to them it's a
01:45:24
natural thing it's of it's not brain surgery okay detective slide left the room briefly and when he rented Jennifer
01:45:37
told him he gave her a fraud Slade asked her to sit down he said the interview was over he told her he didn't
01:45:44
want her walking away thinking that he was evil for asking some tough questions he wanted her to know he was going to
01:45:49
turn over every stone to help catch the people responsible for her mom's murder he said sometimes we have to ask really
01:45:56
difficult questions but it's my job I hope you understand I understand that [Music]
01:46:07
it's ready to take have you lied to me no ya lied to me about anything I said whatever I could to help okay so if
01:46:21
you've always told the truth the truth will never hurt you it may get you in a bit of trouble right the truth can get
01:46:28
you into trouble if you've done but something's wrong but generally in most cases if you tell the truth
01:46:33
you'll always be fine so that's that's the Avenue that that's the Avenue you have to think about in what you I can
01:46:44
always I never do anything wrong if I tell the truth and if I made life I've said some things that are lies or I've
01:46:51
held something back because I think it might hurt me those are the things that will cause people to look at you more
01:46:59
intently because the question is why would that person do that to me they've got something to hide right so you know
01:47:09
the fact that you've lied to your parents over a long period of time the fact that you lied about to Daniel about
01:47:15
those other two events and those are disturbing but I don't live in your shoes and I would never judge you on
01:47:24
that fact but from an outsider looking in to have to live under those conditions to have to lie continually
01:47:33
you're going to ask the question why [Music] and if that's the way that you have to
01:47:45
live that's the way you have to live but people will judge you on your life right
01:47:54
my concern lies in the fact of your lying okay you've come clean you've never lied to
01:48:02
me before right I've never met you to be a liar but the fact is is that you've lied about stuff
01:48:10
to Daniel you've lied to your parents so could you be lying to me I can't why couldn't you be lying physics games
01:48:22
doesn't mean that I you couldn't be lying to me right I don't know you I've known you now for probably five hours
01:48:31
intermittent I hope you're not willing to write that's all I can hope for but the fact of the matter is is that those
01:48:40
three things are sitting there saying you know like give the ability to trick your parents for a long period of time
01:48:49
- very explainable and I also weren't lit I wasn't living where you are right and I'm so I'm not going to prejudge you
01:48:58
because i people do what they need to do to survive so it could very easily be justified as a survival mechanism this
01:49:05
is the best avenue that you saw it and you were stuck in it okay but the fact is is that my job is is trying to get
01:49:13
the root of a severity serious crime and I have to explore every avenue that we possibly can so I'm going to do
01:49:21
everything in my power to either prove us as our police agency prove or disprove what you've told us the more we
01:49:28
prove or can cooperate the more credibility you you have as a witness okay that's going to happen we may even
01:49:40
ask you to come back again again it will be not for you will not be explaining what happened in a grand scheme of
01:49:50
things because you've done that up and down and backwards it may be four points of clarification okay because again
01:49:56
we're speaking that we're going to be going it's likely speaking to some of your
01:49:58
friends and your relatives and it's just points of clarification may not have it
01:50:05
make you know I'm only saying that in me I told you I didn't want to do the 5 and
01:50:09
6 and 7 interviews with you well after today that's not going to happen but we may be contacting you to help us for
01:50:17
some other points that we come across after her interview Jennifer went to visit her father at hospital with her
01:50:24
brother Felix she was chased through the hospital car park by reporters felix helped her shoulder from the press
01:50:31
Jennifer covered her face underneath the hood of her jacket but was photographed
01:50:35
when she looked up to see where she was going the following day hanpan woke up from a three-day induced coma doctors
01:50:44
were unable to remove the bullet fragments lodged in his face and he was facing a long recovery from a shattered
01:50:49
neck bone but the emotional recovery would take much longer han remembered what happened instantly and relived the
01:50:56
shock of losing his wife his brother sat by his bedside and told him the things that had been happening in the last
01:51:03
three days the first thing he told him was that while he was in a coma because father
01:51:08
Jennifer's grandfather had passed away because family believed he passed away from grief then he told him about
01:51:16
Jennifer borrowing some change and making a phone call from a payphone pretending her phone ran out of battery
01:51:22
Jennifer's family knew she was lying and her phone wasn't out of battery after allowing him a brief conversation with
01:51:30
his brother detectives interviewed him Jennifer was not allowed to see or speak to her father until detectives finished
01:51:36
questioning him detectives marcona bogliani and David McDonald entered the hospital room they found him propped up
01:51:44
in bed almost unable to speak having to breathe through a mouthpiece his face swollen from his injuries Hann revealed
01:51:52
disturbing memories in his mind of the home invasion he recalled that while one of the men was moving Jennifer he saw
01:51:59
his daughter chatting softly with him like a friend he revealed that during the time he and bokar were being
01:52:05
threatened with guns and led away Jennifer's arms were not tied behind her back he and said she was comfortable and
01:52:12
freely moving around the house they talked at length about Jennifer's odd behavior they talked about her past they
01:52:20
talked about her line the officers knew Han believed his daughter had something to hide and looked both detectives
01:52:28
square in the eye and said use your police tactics to find out who did this han said that he did not want to see his
01:52:36
daughter and Jennifer was told not to visit him even though his family had to wait to see him properly
01:52:42
their happiness at his recovery was evident as they gathered ready to help him through his grief and recovery
01:52:47
Jennifer however sought out the hospital therapist having a breakdown and over how this was all affecting her she did
01:52:53
not appear to be grieving her mother and she showed no concern for her father she
01:52:58
was more worried about how she was being portrayed in the media her self-absorption did not go unnoticed to
01:53:04
those around her two days later after hearing had been interviewed for the second time
01:53:09
Jennifer snuck into his room in the hospital in a rare moment where she wasn't being monitored by someone and
01:53:15
asked her if she thought Daniel was behind the murder she replied I don't know 100% but I don't think he was and
01:53:24
also asked Jennifer if it was Daniel who she called from the pay phone right after she discovered he was going to
01:53:29
survive Jennifer admitted to the call but said it was only to share the good news
01:53:35
Jennifer then asked her dad for $1200 for college tuition that day detective Curtis officially made Jennifer a
01:53:43
suspect in the investigation Jennifer started making arrangements for both her mother's and grandfather's funerals
01:53:51
Jennifer complained to friends that her father left her to arrange the funerals by herself
01:53:56
Henin chose to pay his respects to his wife in private and not attend her funeral he was still awaiting surgery to
01:54:02
remove bullet fragments from his face at the chapel Jennifer and Felix held each
01:54:08
other police were also in attendance this gruesome murder happened in their community and they wanted to pay their
01:54:15
respects but they were also there to see how their new suspect behaved here's what one officer said
01:54:22
she's up there rubbing her eyes than looking up at us and rubbing her eyes again but never crying that funeral
01:54:29
really got to me don't be looking at us when you're paying your respects to your mum who was
01:54:33
just killed she wasn't crying her head was down it was like she was crying but with no tears with the funerals over
01:54:43
Jennifer's family became vocal about their confusion over her behavior she was confronted by her uncle who told her
01:54:49
he remembered seeing her a few months earlier at a coffee shop with a black male Jennifer brushed it off on Monday
01:54:58
November 22nd awakened a half after her last statement Jennifer was called back in for questioning this time she was
01:55:05
being questioned by detective of William gates he went through the formalities and mentioned to Jennifer that she had
01:55:11
the right to a lawyer but she was not under arrest the tone was different to the last two police interviews there was
01:55:17
more formal gates asked Jennifer lots of personal questions about her friends her
01:55:22
hobbies and herself as a person he then started to delve into how she was treated by her parents
01:55:28
Jennifer quietly described to their expectations she described how during school her parents compared her to other
01:55:35
people often saying she should be more like them she confirmed there was never any physical abuse of any kind Gates
01:55:42
asked did you ever feel like you weren't as smart as they thought you were it was
01:55:46
pretty tough to live up to their expectations Jennifer agreed he then asked and their expectations were so
01:55:54
higher that few people could ever reach those expectations Jennifer agreed the interview continued on a much more
01:56:02
personal note they discussed how events with Daniel and her family made her feel
01:56:06
it became clear that Jennifer didn't really know where she stood with Daniel one day he said he saw a future with her
01:56:13
the next day he said the opposite she was a stood she felt it was fair that at the age of 24 she had to stay at home
01:56:19
with a curfew of 9:00 p.m. Jennifer said considering my past I understood they talked about the call Jennifer made to
01:56:28
Andrew on the day of the home invasion they also discussed the time when she met Andrews roommate Ricardo a person
01:56:34
she hadn't yet met and who we will get to in a minute they got onto the subject of the attackers
01:56:40
Gates said now obviously we have spoken to a lot of people and one of your relatives has told us that you said that
01:56:47
these guys liked you why did you say that Jennifer I didn't say that I said I asked them why when they separated me
01:56:56
from my parents in the house why couldn't I be with them and they said you've cooperated just keep on
01:57:01
cooperating okay so you've made that comment to a relative though that they liked you did you feel they liked you
01:57:10
Jennifer no they had a gun to my head why did they not shoot you I don't know when I
01:57:21
have one they took my parents away I asked to go with them in your life shut up but you
01:57:28
must have thought of this you must be thinking I still doing why do what have you come up with in your mind you'll I
01:57:40
don't think they think if there was they kept saying that you know I cooperate anything - shut up Audrey
01:57:46
keep cooperating did you feel you like your parents didn't cooperate I don't know is there something that they didn't
01:57:55
cooperate with your attorney yes I mean like so really they dig pauper when you think about it there was
01:58:04
no money to be found they told the truth that he had $60 [Music] so there wasn't anything that he wasn't
01:58:17
offering I don't know I'm just trying to say you were there I'm just trying to get feel hurt do you think he loves
01:58:25
cooperating no I thought I do everyone was cooperating that's what they kept saying get certain I'm trying to figure
01:58:32
out where they didn't cooperate now you think there's any reason why they tied you up and didn't tie your parents up
01:58:52
oh that see my dear why the semi because I was away also separated from you some time and does it make sense
01:59:08
that they would leave a witness behind they were going to kill somebody that makes sense just thinking about it
01:59:21
but it makes sense for somebody that was going to kill somebody to leave a witness behind that to describe does
01:59:30
that make common sense for killers gates went over Jennifer's previous statements
01:59:38
and clarified a few points he asked how much finer details than she had been asked previously Jennifer struggled to
01:59:44
answer he scrutinized the evening in the moments before the home invasion and Jennifer became visibly upset she
01:59:52
struggled to get any words out her voice was timid the questions were very detailed gates drilled her about the
01:59:59
timeframe between when her mum came home from dancing and when the intruders broke in Jennifer said she went down to
02:00:05
say hello and get a glass of water the water was a new detail he asked her where exactly she got the water from he
02:00:12
asked her if at any time when she was downstairs did she check if the house was secure she said no that's what the
02:00:18
last person who goes to bed does he asked her specifically if she checked the front door
02:00:24
she said no gates then asked her if it would be typical that if her mother arrived home late at night what she had
02:00:31
done on this particular night that she would automatically lock the front door as she went inside as gates asked this
02:00:38
question Jennifer sat up straight and looked at him it's the most attention she had given him throughout the
02:00:44
interview almost two hours into the interview detective gates stepped out of the room by this point Jennifer was
02:00:51
completely bent over with her face in her hands she was whimpering and breathing deeply when detective gates
02:00:58
walked back into the room he had some news now the reason why I'm here today okay
02:01:07
I'm an expert okay and what we call truth verification I'm not a homicide detective okay although I've worked on a
02:01:17
lot of homicides okay so my job in any case and anybody that the witness in this case I have to speak to after
02:01:28
they've been interviewed originally by anybody else okay and so what it's about is truth verification okay so basically
02:01:37
all my studies come into the interviewing and detecting deception determine if somebody's telling me
02:01:47
please the truth okay guides explained to Jennifer that he had physically written out in Tyre two statements she
02:01:55
had previously given to detective slate every word every syllable he told her he's trained to notice when someone is
02:02:02
speaking in a style of language which differs from their usual thought they don't even know they are doing it there
02:02:08
is even software that helps them determine whether certain words or statements ring alarm bells
02:02:13
Jennifer learned that the software they used to analyze her statement was event probability analysis her statement was
02:02:20
fed into the computer that analyzed what she said and it told them areas of deception or areas of concern within her
02:02:26
statement gates then went into minut detail about the level of forensic examination that
02:02:32
had occurred at her house how they now knew exactly where and when people were in the rooms of the house on the night
02:02:37
of the invasion they knew which rooms people were not in he then mentioned the door locks and latches as Jennifer
02:02:45
nodded her head and told her hair gates explained that they could tell with layers of fingerprints who touched the
02:02:51
door lock last possibly to unlock it after someone else had already locked it over and over gates dropped the hints
02:02:58
and Jennifer took them she realized she was in trouble as gates continued Jennifer hung her head lower and lower I
02:03:09
am well aware that anybody on this earth is capable of making a mistake okay I don't care who there I don't care if
02:03:22
they're a priest I don't care if they're schoolteacher I don't care what the situation is given a certain set of
02:03:31
circumstances everyone has the capability Jennifer making mistakes doing the wrong thing the key though
02:03:43
when I talk to people is when they made a mistake okay that's one thing right the key is to not
02:03:52
keep making the same mistake okay and to get that information as we get it off your chest okay do you understand what
02:04:02
I'm saying okay so at the end of the day from this case and I can tell you I spent literally a
02:04:11
week on this case going over information after information accessing all this sources speaking to
02:04:18
every other expert on the case okay and at this point Jennifer I know that you have not been truthful with the
02:04:27
police okay you've not told us everything that you know purposely okay and that you've left information out
02:04:40
okay there's lumber of inconsistencies and what you told the police okay one of the things you have to remember is that
02:04:50
your dad was there okay and your dad had a front row seat to all of this okay and
02:05:01
your dad's a very smart man okay and he has a very clear perception of what's going on and he tells a very truthful
02:05:11
story cuz I've gone through this whole process with him and had to do the same thing and I know he's being truthful
02:05:18
okay the problem is that your story when you're telling his mantras okay we have
02:05:28
to clear this up okay your rendition of what happened one a lot of events you say that happened never did okay a lot
02:05:42
of things that you told the police happen never happened okay it never happened in the sequence that you told
02:05:49
okay you've got to remember that your dad was there okay that's just one part of it there's lots of other things that
02:05:57
tell me that he's not been truthful all this analysis that I've been doing but on top of it that yours doesn't match at
02:06:06
all it's not for very few factors that you've told truth but you haven't told all the truth we're getting into where
02:06:13
you know you spent a considerable amount of time in the last seven years telling
02:06:20
half truths okay and I can understand why you've had a tough life okay what's happened to you to me
02:06:29
equates to abuse okay and all the stresses that you've had and forced to lie I can understand why you did it
02:06:38
okay well you're in another situation here where you're under another tremendous amount of stress okay and
02:06:45
that stress is brought on by those same factors that brought on stress before okay the number one thing that brings on
02:06:53
stress to you is when you're not truthful right that hurts you right okay and it doesn't feel
02:07:02
good inside doesn't it breaks down the person that you are because at the end of the day you're a good person I know
02:07:10
that you've got a good heart okay in this case though you've made mistakes okay and you're involved in
02:07:19
this I know that if there's no question about it okay the only question right now is are you
02:07:28
going to keep making mistakes are you going to go on the route that you've gone on over the years and tried to
02:07:33
pretend that things happen that never happened today are you going to not face reality okay you were not truthful to
02:07:44
the place in this case we know that you're involved we've done our homework okay we have to resolve that now here
02:07:52
today okay I need to know from you what really happened okay and I mean who else is involved in
02:08:03
this Hey because there's no doubt in a phrase that you are okay we know that we're
02:08:08
past that okay there's no question about it at all okay and I know why this is happening
02:08:15
okay you have spent your whole life trying to live up to expectations that you can't make okay and it's stressed
02:08:23
the hell out of you you're a 24 old woman being treated like a 15 year old okay what you've never done anything
02:08:31
that terrible in your life but you're being treated like you have you're not being treated like the adult that you
02:08:39
are yes you made some mistakes big deal they're not the first person that has gone into not told their parents that
02:08:47
they're dating a guy because in your culture they don't accept that I understand that I've talked to people in
02:08:52
here that have kept that secret for their whole life from their parents okay so that's not abnormal but that puts a
02:08:59
lot of stress on you right that's not easy for you is it No now what we need to get down to here
02:09:09
today Jim is what really happened you need to tell me what went on because you know
02:09:22
who was in that house that night you do Jen there's no question about that okay there's no question about it
02:09:30
okay you have actually given an improper description of a person you were dealing
02:09:35
with upstairs number one you falsified the whole description of that person we know that okay we know that okay yes you
02:09:49
did and okay you did it made it a mistake here and we got to get to the bottom of that that person did not exist
02:09:58
in that house that night I know that hey we've done her homework okay you heard on the news that there was video all
02:10:05
right okay it wasn't three black guys that left that house you know that and I know that okay so we need to get down to
02:10:15
why Eva purposely told us a false description of number one okay no again it's totally wrong and it was done on
02:10:28
purpose okay to mislead us okay because you're involved in this okay you cannot deny that okay you cannot deny that we
02:10:38
know okay so let's just get it out on the table you've made a mistake I know that okay but you can't live with this
02:10:46
any longer than this you're here your buddy nervous wreck over this thing this thing if you could take it back I know
02:10:55
that you would if you could go back to that day and play this all over again it would be different okay but you need to
02:11:03
right now know that we know that you're involved there's no question about that none whatsoever okay but what we'd also
02:11:13
know is that you're a good person okay that's made a mistake here right you've made some bad decisions okay and
02:11:22
you know how you made the bad decisions and not talking telling your parents what's up you don't want to do that with
02:11:29
us okay you don't want to do that with the police do you you don't want to mislead me do you okay so let's not do
02:11:37
that you made a mistake that night you got involved with the wrong people okay you got involved in the wrong set
02:11:45
of circumstances okay but that's over with now we're past that we know that that happened okay but you
02:11:55
know what in all my years of placing it doesn't matter what it was wrong with people it's never too late to do the
02:12:05
right thing you know that and I know that okay what you can do here today is actually do the right thing okay you
02:12:13
have to do the right thing okay you can't go around continuing this okay remember when you said what it did to
02:12:21
you when you went through those years it's oppression that was brought on by not being truthful living a lie you
02:12:29
don't want to keep living this lie okay everybody knows okay you know you're getting the feeling from everybody
02:12:37
around you that they know okay nobody is surprised okay there's nobody surprised here okay
02:12:45
after what you've been through I'm surprised this didn't happen a lot earlier truthfully you're 24 years old
02:12:54
and you were a prisoner in your own house you had lost your own identity there was no again for anymore okay you
02:13:02
were living for what somebody else wanted you weren't you you were what somebody else wanted you were living
02:13:09
someone else's expectations okay and yes family is important but when family takes over you as a human being when
02:13:19
they take your identity there is no Morgan so no matter how good their intentions are no matter how much they
02:13:27
love you they're taking away gen okay and you have gone through this for years in the middle of tension tension
02:13:39
that died to the point that it makes you sick your stomach turns over you don't wake up a day that there's not some
02:13:47
issue on the table not some stress in your household okay essentially you've been told to live up to expectations you
02:13:56
yourself years ago knew that you could not do okay they're taking away gen there is no again they took getaway the
02:14:08
gen that just wants to be a piano teacher why isn't that good enough why was that not good enough
02:14:16
that was great expectations why not just be a lab technician why the dr. biden said always have to be something bigger
02:14:23
why can't it just be what you want and all that has resulted in what's happened on us on november 8th the tension builds
02:14:36
up to a point that you know what it's like an animal that gets cornered at some point the nicest dog when it's
02:14:46
cornered fights back three months before the home invasion in the spring of 2010
02:14:54
Jennifer made contact with an old school friend called Andrew Mont a man this was
02:15:00
the same Andrew Jennifer told detective Slade she had spoken to the day of the home invasion the same Andrew that
02:15:06
during a later account of the story she remembered she also had a quick phone conversation with the evening of the
02:15:11
home invasion Andrew and Jennifer had gone to elementary school together and she
02:15:15
remembered him boasting that he had robbed people at knifepoint she told him about how awful her home life was and
02:15:21
how her parents controlled every detail of her existence Andrew said he understood her pain and that he had once
02:15:27
considered killing his own father this planted a seed inside Jennifer and by the early summer of 2010 she started to
02:15:34
hatch a plan that included a world without her father in it she went back to Andrew Andrew introduced her to his
02:15:42
roommate Ricardo done they created a plan for Ricardo for murder her father in the
02:15:46
parking lot of his work Jennifer had saved $1,500 from her piano lessons she gave it to Ricardo and said she would
02:15:53
contact him to make a date according to Jennifer story Ricardo stopped answering her calls and
02:15:59
disappeared with the money Ricardo's version is that in July 2010 jennifer phoned and asked to meet him
02:16:06
for a coffee she was in a hysterical state asking him to murder her parents his answer was no way he said that after
02:16:13
this he stopped speaking to her Ricardo was at the blackmail that Jennifer's uncle had seen her with at the coffee
02:16:19
shop he admitted that she did give him money once but that it was only $200 for a night out which he paid back Jennifer
02:16:27
then went to her ex Daniel Wong Jennifer was the one in the household who always
02:16:32
helped her mother with the bills she knew the extent of their finances if her parents died she would be set to
02:16:38
inherit half a million dollars her and Daniel could set up a house together and deliver normal life Daniel knew someone
02:16:45
being in the drug trade it was easy to find someone willing to do anything for money
02:16:50
this was when Daniel introduced Jennifer to lenford crawford who they called homeboy Daniel gave Jennifer a spare
02:16:58
iPhone so they could contact each other without anyone knowing Jennifer used this phone to call Daniel and Crawford
02:17:04
or homeboy sometimes removing the SIM card swapping it back and forth into her own phone so with Crawford in charge and
02:17:12
Daniel as an accomplice Crawford recruited two other friends David Miller Ganim and Eric okati who would be in
02:17:19
charge of arranging the car and driving in a three men to and from the scene the
02:17:23
fee was $5,000 for each parent a total of ten thousand a small down payment was given by Jennifer two thousand was to be
02:17:31
handed over during the home invasion and the remaining money was to be handed over when life insurance payments came
02:17:36
through the date was set for November 2nd but in the morning Jennifer received a text from Daniel Daniel was honest
02:17:44
with Jennifer he had moved on with someone else he told her that he fell for his new girlfriend the way Jennifer
02:17:50
felt for him Jennifer so you feel for her what I feel for you then call it off with homeboy
02:17:57
Daniel I thought you wanted this for you Jennifer I do but I have nowhere to go Daniel call it off with home boy
02:18:06
question mark he said you wanted this with or without me Jennifer I want it for me Jennifer then received a text
02:18:14
from Crawford I need the time of completion think about it Jennifer replied today is a no go dinner
02:18:22
plans out so I won't be home in time cardi was pleased the killing had been postponed as he was having trouble
02:18:28
getting enough money together for gas the next day Daniel texts Jennifer again I did everything and lined it all up for
02:18:35
you even though Daniel had pushed Jennifer away again he continued to flirt with her and encouraged her to
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flirt back on the morning of November 8th 2010 Jennifer saved another text from Crawford after work okay
02:18:50
will be gain to him between 4:30 p.m. and 10:25 p.m. Jennifer and her old school friend Andrew exchanged nearly
02:18:58
100 text messages they also spoke on the phone Andrew wasn't involved in the plan
02:19:03
but she did tell him it was about to happen he brushed it off even though only months prior he had introduced her
02:19:10
to Ricardo someone he thought could help her kill her father he would go on to testify that he didn't really believe
02:19:15
she had gone ahead with it Andrew had a crush on Jennifer he said he had blinkers on the extent of their texts
02:19:22
are unknown as Jennifer deleted them before the home invasion at 6:12 p.m. lenford crawford caught Jennifer it was
02:19:31
on after Jennifer watched TV with her friend Adria and he left her and Daniel had a long text message conversation
02:19:39
discussing in jokes about chickens and monkeys at 9 p.m. Eric Rd and David Mill vagon Ham met up in a hire car and
02:19:48
collected as lenford crawford at 9:35 p.m. David Milford enums phone was used to call Jennifer he let her know they
02:19:57
were close after Jennifer hung up she opened the door of her bedroom and walked down the
02:20:02
stairs she said good night to her mother walk to the front door and unlocked it there was 9:45 p.m. at two minutes past
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10:00 Jennifer walked to the dark study next to her parents bedroom where her father was asleep she flicked the study
02:20:19
light on for a minute then switched it off something which was caught on the security video footage from the house
02:20:25
across the road two minutes later David mill Vaganova called again this time they spoke for three and a half minutes
02:20:33
within seconds of hanging up the rental car pulled up at the house and Lanford crawford david miller Ghanem and derek
02:20:40
rd walked through the front door all three carrying guns the evidence the police had against Jennifer was
02:20:48
compelling the messages and calls made from her everyday phone as well as her burner phone learned them to piece
02:20:54
together a clear picture of the planning that went into the staged home invasion
02:20:58
they needed to push her just that little bit further to confess but she didn't instead of confessing she spent further
02:21:06
hours in the interview spinning a story of how she had arranged the home invasion but the plan was to kill her
02:21:11
not her parents she didn't want the ring shame on her family by committing suicide so she created an elaborate
02:21:19
suicide plan for a home invasion gone wrong she said she tried to call off the hit
02:21:24
but somehow the wires got crossed and the men arrived and killed her mother and almost killed her father
02:21:30
Jennifer never left her third interview on November 22nd York Regional Police arrested Jennifer and charged her with
02:21:37
first-degree murder attempted murder and conspiracy to commit murder Jennifer hunched over and sobbing asked
02:21:44
repeatedly what happens to me the day after Jennifer's arrest police held a second press conference citing a
02:21:53
continuing investigation police provided few details about the arrest of Jennifer
02:21:57
or the potential motive but confirmed - the investigation moved in a new direction when he woke up from his coma
02:22:02
and provided a version of events that differed greatly to Jennifer's detective cook from the investigation team later
02:22:10
said he knew something was up from the very beginning he was an officer who continually voiced his opinion
02:22:15
throughout the investigation he said I knew it was an inside job I always thought she was part of it
02:22:23
you don't break into a house shouldn't kill two people and then leave a witness tied up I mean they tied her up it's not
02:22:30
like she hid from them she's tired up but other people are subject to being shot yet not this person why not it goes
02:22:38
against everything we know it just doesn't make sense Jennifer was remanded into custody Judah
02:22:45
face court a week later why now the police were tracking their other suspects and got an interesting lead in
02:22:51
the hours following Jennifer's arrest after news broke of Jennifer being in custody cardi called Crawford while he
02:22:58
was at work when Crawford finished work he headed towards Daniel Wong's house where he arrived at 2:00 a.m. he's in
02:23:05
Daniels phones pinged to the same cell phone tower for 40 minutes leading police to believe they were in the same
02:23:10
location engaging in a conversation the same thing happened to 12 hours later just after 2:00 p.m.
02:23:17
Daniel and Crawford were in the same location again Crawford wasn't happy if Jennifer had been arrested who would be
02:23:25
paying them it took York Regional Police five months to make all the arrests they
02:23:31
relied on cell phone location analysis cell phone calls and texts to pieced the elaborate murder plan together along
02:23:38
with Jennifer all were charged with first-degree murder attempted murder and conspiracy to commit murder the first
02:23:44
two arrests police made were David Miller Ghanem and Eric cardi cardi had since been arrested for another murder
02:23:50
that occurred in 2009 and was already being held in a Correctional Facility at the time of his arrest Detective
02:23:57
Sergeant Larry Wilson released a statement we are continuing to investigate this incident and are
02:24:03
expecting further arrests he refused to comment on the relationship between Jennifer and the two men accused other
02:24:09
than to acknowledge there was a connection I'm not going to get into details in regards to motive but I think
02:24:15
with the daughter involved in the conspiracy aspect to it I think the motive is pretty clear he went on with a
02:24:22
message for those not yet caught I urged the remaining persons involved in this horrendous crime to seek legal counsel
02:24:28
and turn themselves in immediately York Regional Police Superintendent Wayne kolinsky also released the statement
02:24:37
this was not a random act citizens will be relieved by the fact that we made arrests in this matter this was a
02:24:44
targeted residence on April 26 2011 Daniel Wong was arrested in front of his colleagues at Boston pizza
02:24:52
two weeks later lenford crawford was arrested at his goal Ren's house with five people charged and
02:24:59
awaiting trial the prosecution got to work on their case police were commended for their diligent
02:25:04
work in following the trail to catch those arrested there were still thoughts that other people could possibly be
02:25:09
linked on the peripheral and it was still unclear who exactly pulled the trigger but it was agreed the case would
02:25:15
proceed with all five charged with first-degree murder attempted murder and conspiracy to commit murder the detailed
02:25:22
analysis of phone records was described as second to none with over a million pieces of mobile phone data scanned in
02:25:28
order to make the arrests the case took three years to come to trial and when the court said on March 19th 2014
02:25:35
in the Newmarket courthouse it was expected to last five months it would go on to last ten the press was in
02:25:43
overdrive at the time of the home invasion this case had taken over the news and was one of the biggest and most
02:25:48
intriguing stories after arrests were made the story faded and it was only now gearing back up for almost another year
02:25:56
of intrigue is the fate of Jennifer Penn and her co-accused were in the hands of
02:26:00
the court headlines like daughter from Hell trial begins gives a little insight into the sentiment at the time reporters
02:26:08
descended from all over Canada the United States China the Philippines and Vietnam this story transcended through
02:26:15
generations of Asian immigrant families to Canada hard-working parents and grandparents felt deep sorrow for Han
02:26:22
Penn who had only wanted what was best for his daughter other children of pushy Tiger parents as they were called felt
02:26:29
for Jennifer a daughter pushed them pushed with expectations she could never reach tipped over the edge
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Jennifer near 27 had aged in her three years in custody her face no longer sweet and childlike she'd had three
02:26:44
years to reflect on the decisions she had made in her life that led her to that point three years without the love
02:26:50
and support of her family as they had cut off all ties with her following her arrest
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all five accused were tried together all of them pleaded not guilty judge Kari Boswell told the jury that
02:27:02
just because all five accused were being tried together it didn't mean they should all get the same verdict as the
02:27:09
packed courtroom held their breath the five accused two shuffled in their ankle shattered and their hands cuffed they
02:27:16
were led into their individual box seats separated by glass dividing walls their
02:27:20
shackles and cuffs removed before the jury arrived so as not to create bias against them more than 50 witnesses
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testified and the jury saw over 200 exhibits including long segments of the ten hours of police interviews the
02:27:34
police had with Jennifer they saw hundreds of pages of cell phone records including phone calls text messages and
02:27:40
a location data given the nature of much of the language used in the text message
02:27:45
conversations an expert in urban street slang took the witness stand but the key
02:27:50
witness was Jennifer's father here who addressed the jury with a sad tale of how he and his deceased wife had only
02:27:56
wanted the best for their daughter Crayon lawyer Jennifer halogen presented a well-thought-out murder plan concocted
02:28:04
by an intelligent and calculated daughter who couldn't get her own way saying Jennifer was determined to get
02:28:11
her way no matter what even if it destroyed her family referring to the co-accused their motive was money and
02:28:18
while they didn't all pull the trigger each participated in carrying out Jennifer Penn's plan to murder her
02:28:24
parents the theory was that Jennifer orchestrated a staged home invasion in which both appearance would be killed
02:28:30
and she'd get half shared with her brother of a handsome insurance inheritance at least half a million
02:28:37
dollars each which he hoped would draw Daniel Wong whom she was obsessed with back into her life it was about the
02:28:43
money and it was about Jennifer's the loathing of her father in order for the jury to have an understanding of
02:28:49
Jennifer's motive prosecutors took them back to the beginning of her story they argued that Jennifer pians parents only
02:28:55
wanted the best for their children to work hard get a university education and have a better life than they did
02:29:01
Jennifer couldn't handle those high expectations they took the jury through the lies and deceit that began in her
02:29:08
early adolescence and continued to that day sitting in court still telling a tale so tightly woven
02:29:14
she could no longer see where one lie ended and another began the prosecution alleged that after she was turned down
02:29:21
by Ricardo Duncan the first time she tried to have her father killed she hatched the more elaborate and more
02:29:26
violent plan turning to her highschool sweetheart Daniel Wong for help her plan was calculated and considered and
02:29:33
planned and deliberate Jennifer was on the stand for seven days she resembled the same character seen in her police
02:29:40
interviews softly spoken bordering on shy often with a head down when not on the stand she sat most of the time with
02:29:48
a head low sometimes covering her face with her hands as she had done in her police interviews she weaved her way
02:29:56
around the deeming text messages with her co-accused and desperately tried to convince the jury that although she had
02:30:01
ordered a hit on her father in August 2010 three months later she had changed her mind the court heard that Jennifer
02:30:09
only wanted herself killed and ordered the hit to not bring the shame of suicide on her family she said she never
02:30:15
wanted her parents to be the target it was her that was supposed to die Jennifer's defense lawyer Paul Cooper
02:30:22
painted Eric kardi as a psychopathic killer who was not happy when Jennifer caught off her assisted suicide and not
02:30:29
happy he hadn't been paid to eight and a half thousand dollar cancellation fee Cooper stated the events of that night
02:30:35
were never supposed to happen Jennifer would never be part of any plan to hurt her mother and she wasn't part of a plan
02:30:41
to hurt her father if this was a planned murder why carry out the charade of the
02:30:46
robbery why didn't the intruder shoot mr. and mrs. Penn immediately he called it a sloppy robbery led by idiots in a
02:30:54
hurry and said Eric Rd was the one calling the shots Cooper alleged that it was Carney who
02:31:00
started shooting because he was angry he wasn't receiving the money he wanted although sitting accused in his trial
02:31:06
Eric Rd was now serving life in prison for the murder in 2009 a murder he was wanted for at the time of the pea and
02:31:13
home invasion it was an easy job to paint him as a killer with nothing to lose he was present at the beginning of
02:31:19
the trial but five months in his lawyer became sick and was unable to continue with his defense which led to cardis
02:31:26
exit from the trial he was tried separately at a later date Cooper admitted to the jury that
02:31:32
Jennifer had a history of lying but claimed her web of deceit only showed her to be a sheltered young woman with
02:31:38
the social skills of a teenager he said they could not convicted murder and reminded them they had to believe beyond
02:31:44
a reasonable doubt that she meant for her parents to die with Cardini out of this trial the defense for Crawford mill
02:31:51
Wagoner and Daniel Wong told the court there was little evidence to convict the three men other than the phone records
02:31:57
no DNA evidence was presented at trial there was no forensic evidence gathered from the house no bloody clothes found
02:32:04
and no weapons recovered the defense argued that if it was such a sloppy job as alleged by Jennifer's defense then
02:32:11
where was the physical evidence Daniel Wong's defense lawyer said are you going to commit my client of a cold-blooded
02:32:18
murder based on a couple of text messages are you kidding me he described Daniel as a university educated
02:32:25
hard-working man who played the trumpet who somehow got mixed up with dealing marijuana and who fell under the spell
02:32:31
of Jennifer Penn she's a pathological liar who was playing games in the sickest possible way with Daniels head
02:32:37
he said five months into the trial that was revealed that juror number four his wife had sat in the courtroom every day
02:32:45
watching when Jennifer's father took the witness stand he was joined by two Vietnamese interpreters he did not look
02:32:52
over at his daughter they said the crime had shattered his life adding that he was astonished he
02:32:58
survived the shots through his face and shoulder he spoke with a deep sadness as
02:33:02
he told the court of the decade of lying he and his wife enjoy it from Jennifer the jury took four days to reach its
02:33:10
verdict on December 13th 2014 at 1:20 p.m. the jury informed Justice Boswell that a verdict had been reached the
02:33:20
accused all stood in the prisoner's dock while their verdicts were read one by one
02:33:25
Jennifer Penn David mill vagon 'um Daniel Wong and a lenford crawford were all found guilty of the murder a big up
02:33:32
in end of the attempted murder of Han Penn Jennifer as she always did hung her head
02:33:37
low and sobbed this time only she knew if the tears were real she could be heard saying they didn't even give me a
02:33:44
chance one by one H was asked to sit down family members were crying in some screaming as they left the courtroom and
02:33:54
chose not to deliver his victim impact statement in person a witness protection a he'd read it out at read when I lost
02:34:03
my wife I lost my daughter at the same time I don't feel like I have a family anymore on the day big heart died I feel
02:34:10
like I died too my life totally changed that day some say I should feel lucky to
02:34:15
be alive but I feel like I am dead too I can't work anymore because of my injuries and
02:34:21
I've given up on all the things I used to do like gardening working on cars and listening to music there is no joy in
02:34:28
any of that for me I miss my wife so much she knew me better than anyone and cared about me I am so lonely without
02:34:35
her we were married for almost 30 years big car was a good wife and a good mother she always put her children first
02:34:43
and rarely spent money on herself she loved music and loved to go line dancing she took care of our children while I
02:34:50
worked she had always wanted to go to Vietnam and I always said we have to spend our money on the children's
02:34:55
education first but once they have finished school we can focus on doing the things we want then
02:35:01
but that tour never came for her I don't find any joining holidays anymore I'm sad and lonely all the time sometimes
02:35:10
when I see my friends I tried to pretend I am happy but struggle with being jealous of my friends families and their
02:35:15
happiness my only hope for the future is that Felix will get married and let me live with him right now I live with my
02:35:22
two sisters and my elderly mother as I can't stand being in my home because of all the bad memories of what happened
02:35:28
there there are repairs that need to be done on the house but because of my injuries
02:35:32
I am unable to do anything I don't like going to my house because my neighbors asked me what happened and I am ashamed
02:35:38
I can't sell the house because it is in a Chinese neighborhood with superstition
02:35:43
and no one would want to live there because of the murder I cannot sleep at night and have
02:35:48
constant nightmares about what happened the night we were shot I feel panicked all the time especially
02:35:54
when I see a group of young men in the street I am not racist at all a black men really scare me if I see
02:36:00
them standing in a group I'm in a lot of pain and take medication for pain every
02:36:04
day I have no appetite as food is not pleasurable to me because I know I would never be able to taste my wife's cooking
02:36:10
again I am also on medication for diabetes and high cholesterol as I can not exercise as it is too painful my
02:36:18
life has totally changed I attend my wife's grave with my brother and sister-in-law on the anniversary of her
02:36:24
death and on other special holidays and it is so very hard on me to remember how
02:36:28
she died and what my life has become I am a very lonely person and have no one to share my feelings with as my son
02:36:35
Felix does not want to talk about what happened and just wants to forget it is very hard for Felix he doesn't want to
02:36:42
hear his sister's name and doesn't want to know about what happens in court Felix has become very separate and he's
02:36:48
a very different person he doesn't want to talk about the family and he's very closed down distant and too sad he says
02:36:55
he doesn't want to remember and won't look for a job in Toronto because he feels like he has a bad family name
02:37:00
because everyone knows about his mother's murder I hope my daughter Jennifer thinks about what has happened
02:37:07
to her family and can become a good and honest person someday just as Boswell described the crime as horrific he said
02:37:17
the circumstances faced by Jennifer's father him and mother become without if stark horror those willing to go along
02:37:25
with such a plan have very little concern for human life these were crimes of terrifying violence all accused were
02:37:33
sentenced to life without parole for 25 years for the first-degree murder of beaker pen and the life for the
02:37:39
attempted murder of hand pen the sentences would run concurrently the earliest Jennifer pen will be able to
02:37:45
apply for parole is 2035 she'll be 48 years old the judge ended with she lived a life of deception and
02:37:54
they did not deserve the death penalty she imposed on them this was a business transaction the commodity
02:38:00
death Eric Rd wasn't retried cardi said he wanted to put an end to hand suffering by pleading out to avoid
02:38:09
another lengthy trial he admitted he conspired with the other accused to have hand and beak are killed for $10,000 he
02:38:16
was sentenced to 18 years in prison to be served concurrently with a 25 year sentence he was already serving for the
02:38:22
unrelated murder it is still unknown who pulled the trigger the case was summed up in the Toronto
02:38:30
Star by journalist Rosie de mano who said all this horror a mother shot in the head her final words are plead that
02:38:38
her daughter be spared a father shot through the art who miraculously survived his Grievous wounds for the
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Episode Highlights

  • A Night of Terror
    On November 8, 2010, Jennifer Penn faced a horrifying home invasion that changed her life forever.
    “You can hurt us but please don't hurt our daughter.”
    @ 09m 47s
    November 19, 2018
  • Jennifer's Secret Relationship
    Despite her parents' disapproval, Jennifer continued to see Daniel in secret.
    “Jennifer kept her relationship with Daniel a secret and snuck around behind her parents' back.”
    @ 22m 33s
    November 19, 2018
  • Detective's Careful Approach
    Detective Slade took great care to ensure Jennifer felt comfortable during her statement.
    “Slade explained she didn't have to give a statement if she wasn't ready.”
    @ 25m 53s
    November 19, 2018
  • Police Press Conference
    Police Chief Armand de Labarre addressed the media about the brutal home invasion.
    “These individuals pose a very real danger to our community.”
    @ 45m 29s
    November 19, 2018
  • Jennifer's Emotional Testimony
    During her interview, Jennifer struggled to recount the traumatic events of the night.
    “Slade handed her a tissue and encouraged her to keep going.”
    @ 57m 05s
    November 19, 2018
  • Parental Expectations
    Jennifer's parents have high expectations, leading her to forge her academic records.
    “I chose my family.”
    @ 01h 06m 22s
    November 19, 2018
  • Desperation After Breakup
    After Daniel breaks up with her, Jennifer goes to extreme lengths to regain his attention.
    “Jennifer was desperate to hold on to Daniel.”
    @ 01h 25m 43s
    November 19, 2018
  • The Weight of Lies
    Detective Slade confronts Jennifer about her history of lying and its implications.
    “You've lied to your parents about going to school.”
    @ 01h 41m 22s
    November 19, 2018
  • Detectives Interview Han
    Han revealed disturbing memories of the home invasion during his hospital interrogation.
    “He recalled that while one of the men was moving Jennifer, he saw his daughter chatting softly with him.”
    @ 01h 51m 52s
    November 19, 2018
  • Truth Verification
    Detective Gates confronted Jennifer about inconsistencies in her statements during an intense interview.
    “I know that you have not been truthful with the police.”
    @ 02h 04m 26s
    November 19, 2018
  • The Arrest
    Jennifer was arrested and charged with first-degree murder, leaving her to question her fate.
    “What happens to me?”
    @ 02h 21m 44s
    November 19, 2018
  • Verdict Reached
    On December 13th, 2014, the jury found all accused guilty of murder.
    @ 02h 33m 14s
    November 19, 2018

Episode Quotes

  • Everything in the house seemed to be where it should be.
    Unraveling the mystery behind a deadly break-in
  • Just hang in there and try to eat.
    Unraveling the mystery behind a deadly break-in
  • I chose my family.
    Unraveling the mystery behind a deadly break-in
  • I love my parents and I chose to be with them.
    Unraveling the mystery behind a deadly break-in
  • Your dad was there and he tells a very truthful story.
    Unraveling the mystery behind a deadly break-in
  • The case took three years to come to trial.
    Unraveling the mystery behind a deadly break-in

Key Moments

  • Detective's Support28:17
  • Home Invasion Aftermath43:09
  • Family Vigil44:08
  • Life of Lies1:17:04
  • Breaking Point1:22:11
  • Desperate Measures1:25:43
  • Funeral Confusion1:54:45
  • Intense Interrogation1:55:02

Words per Minute Over Time

Vibes Breakdown