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spending time in a courthouse can be a surreal experience the raw human emotion from strangers playing out in front of
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your eyes in a single trial you can see anger despair Joy Terror and relief each
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with an intensity that's hard to put into words at the K County Courthouse judges
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only allow such emotion from those on the witness stand when it comes to people in the audience Stern bayts May
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threaten to remove even the victim's family members if they have an emotional Outburst of any kind so often times the
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drama ends up spewing out in the long narrow hallway outside of the courtroom doors where everyone in the case
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Witnesses jurors victims and suspects loved ones have to sit shoulder-to-shoulder on tightly packed
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plastic chairs when court is in recess and it can get nasty particularly for Witnesses who often have no choice but
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to be there after being subpoena so in an effort to offer those Witnesses some sense of soless there's a tiny room for
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them on the top floor of the courthouse away from the chaos inside are a couple of small old couches a TV that has a few
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channels all covered by a constant layer of static there are no windows and it has a thick metal door that takes both
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hands to pull open with an automatic deadbolt lock when it's shut which to me screams if you're not not already scared
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to testify maybe you should be there's miscellaneous children's toys scattered around the stained carpets giving the
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room and even more depressing Aura this is where the mom's Micah's dad Lance and
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I sat for what felt like forever waiting for a verdict I'm Olivia Lavo and this is the
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Bakersfield 3 [Music] I'd been worried about Cheryl for 3 weeks she and Lance woke up at the crack
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of dawn and drove an hour in a half to court where they sat for 8 hours often having to see a giant blown up image on
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a projector of their son's skull and severed arm there was one day when Cheryl physically couldn't walk into the
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courtroom on her own she was mentally and physically beaten down as we sat there waiting on the
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first day of deliberations we talked about the concept of what was happening knowing that in another room in the same
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building 12 strangers were working towards making a decision that would change so many lives everyone outside of
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that room was powerless to what that decision would be or how long it would take jurors to make it this is how
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Cheryl described it at the time very very raw very surreal I kind of feel a little
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disassociated in a weird way so I'm kind of keeping an eye on my anxiety and we talked about what the trial had been
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like it has been very difficult I did anticipate that so much so that I've have two therapists and a new
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psychiatrist and a doctor on standby my medical doctor so we geared up Lance and I both
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kind of geared up a bit for this by doing some grief counseling and and working through some
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stuff I go home a lot of times and just put a book in my an audio book on or I'll we don't eat right we don't tend to
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take care of ourselves in ways most people would people talk about self-care you know all that all that stuff goes
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out the window so it may look like we're I mean we're dressed and we're here but
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the rest of our lives from my perspective feel like feels like it's in turmoil it's illusion it's an illusion
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you feel like it's an illusion that you guys seems so yeah together yeah because
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internally we're not you know the the sun comes up the next morning whether you want it to or not whether you feel
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bad or not whether you feel like getting up or not so you just get up and just do
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what needs to be done there are definitely or neglect what needs to be done we do both Jane who had also been
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there every single day often having to hear her missing daughter accused of a heinous crime utilized a tactic she'd
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been taught during a week-long grief seminar during a particularly intensive therapy session Jane was asked to
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visualize something in nature that would replace the horrible things she imagined
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happen to her daughter Jane looked down and found a rock shaped as a heart since
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then she's kept it in her pocket every day I have my bailey rock with me in court so the smooth side and the Rough
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Side so when I would get really anxious I don't know if you guys saw me but I'd have my rock in my hand and I rub it and
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it you know I do my distraction thing and sweet dye who also never missed a day being there for both Jane and Cheryl
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for me in the recent weeks I feel like we've actually become even closer you said you said that you guys
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felt like you got closer after the charges were announced now you feel You' got closer again again it's really
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strange um we know how things are affecting the other person person Micah was James's
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friend and I was so affected last week I was so upset haven't been able to eat or
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sleep and I'm channeling Lance and Cheryl and and Jane it's just I didn't expect that to happen you know I didn't
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think cuz we've always been close but I didn't think it would even be even closer and I know a lot of
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people were expecting us to fall apart and to unravel at the seams Dy who tends to be the quietest in the trio then
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shared another thought she'd had during the trial I've done a lot of reflecting like I believe you know I look at Matt
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sitting up there and he's somebody's child you know there's another mom grieving of what their child did to
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someone and was involved in and so I've been thinking a lot about that not making excuses for him but just
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how much she has to be hurting too you know there's the other side of of the coin there's you know the victim's
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families and then there's the families that are wishing that their loved ones wouldn't have done that you know because
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they're in pain too when D said that I looked up at Jane and wondered if jurors or anyone who had heard the testimony
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during trial had thought the same thing about her that she is a mother who was also hearing about their child being the
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suspect in a brutal crime by the time the trial started it' been 2 years since Bailey was charged with Micah's murder
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and when I first started trying to process that thought D was with me I think Sherl was at one of my counseling
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things and it's just very hard you you know you're thinking about it and then when you hear it come out of the words
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of law enforcement that this is true but I don't know if it's exact you know true
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I'm hoping one day her murder charges will be dismissed because that's not who she was
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at that time so did I answer the question or did I get sidetracked Jane's thoughts on
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this topic can often come across scattered and I think a lot of that has to do with her working very hard to keep
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it together especially if she's in public I tried not to F fill emotion because through all my counseling and
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therapy in order to get information you can't seem like you're crazy it's been drilled into me you can't fall apart in
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person or law enforcement isn't going to talk to you because they'll be afraid you'll break down and leak stuff and in
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court during the hardest part of the trial for both Jane and Cheryl Jane stayed composed for another reason I'm
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not going to get this [ __ ] Matt Queen the satisfaction of seeing me cry over a lie that he saying to try to
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defend himself Queen's testimony about Micah's murder was a lot for them to sit through he actually starts
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crying talking about cutting up my dead son I'm what the heck who does that in the court well I guess he does I don't
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know and I just made me angry and I know it's part of the process but it just really even looking at all the other
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evidence and all the other photos and all the other stuff him talking about that and calling Micah it it and when
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needed to get it out of here I couldn't stand it I had to do something with it I
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had to load it it's like okay a minute ago he had a name but now when you're talking about him he's an IT Bailey
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could barely lift a 25 lb bag of dog food for you know her dog much less 40 lb dead weight lift it up and you know
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drop it I think you would have to drop it from a pretty high height to crush somebody's
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skull as the hours went by there were brief moments in that room when the conversation was somewhat light-hearted
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which gave little glimpses into how much simpler life once was for the moms this
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was especially apparent when at one point Cheryl and Lance's Love Story came up and how Carefree they were as
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newlyweds all those years ago as Lance mentioned they were going on 40 years of marriage when is the big anniversary
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less than a week May l a week the day before Micah's birthday which makes it always a little bitter
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sweet anything I don't know really thought about I mean we had Haven have it cuz just been ' just been overwhelmed
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yeah we've been very much in um hold very much in um status quo or just just getting through the day one
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day at a time kind of thing and so thinking celebrate well we just going to sit at a restaurant and stare at each
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other like we've been doing at home cuz that's what we've been doing staring at each other for 40 years years the point
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right so I don't know I don't think I feel like celebrating at this point I think
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someday we I will feel like celebrating again but right now celebratory things are really hard
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for me most topics reverted back to the grief the moms were coping with by the second full day of waiting for a verdict
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it was nearly impossible to discuss anything other than what we thought jurors might be discussing as the moms
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put it what are they stuck on often times attorneys will say if the jury comes back quickly it's almost
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definitely a guilty verdict if they're taking their time the thought is it's probably good for the defense but the
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truth is how can anyone really know and at no point did any of the moms dare to say outright they were nervous which as
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the hours went on I came to realize that's because the emotion was so much more than just the anticipation and the
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uncertainty especially for Cheryl I recognized this as she talked about bouts of Despair she went through
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during the trial there are definitely pits you know where at least I've fallen and
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uh didn't know if I was waking up the next morning you know just didn't know if I wanted to be there in the morning
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when the sun came up so so that happens but then there's also kind of this internal rage that
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I've had and some of that has driven me too like you know like heck you're going
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to get away with this right you just want to be there and watch this go down and so now no matter what the outcome
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I'm fearful of the next steps cuz this theoretically will end this chapter for us so now how do we continue to be a
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family that includes Micah that doesn't have him you know like what do we how how do we maneuver
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that it was something I'd never considered what happens to a victim's family when everything's gone as far as
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it can through the criminal justice system their ride through it whether getting
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the outcome they wanted or not is over by the third day of waiting there was an air of anxiety in the room that
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was starting to feel more and more like a cement Box by 300 p.m. we knew jurors only had 1 hour left before it was the
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end of their day just as we were accepting we'd have to come back tomorrow Cheryl's phone buzzed the
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verdict was in everyone jumped up and at first it felt something like excitement
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but as we shuffled into the elevator to head down to the courtroom it shifted it wasn't a feeling of dread but
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a suspense so intense you felt like you could just cry as we started to walk towards the courtroom Cheryl let out a
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few sobs and began to tremble Jane D Lance and I took turns holding her hand we all wanted to say it'll be okay but
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we knew we couldn't PA remain SE didn't come order department for anoun session first count
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we the jury and panel to try the above entitled case find the defendant Matthew Richard Queen not guilty of felony to it
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first degree murder of Micah Holden B we the jury and Pano to try the above entitled case find the following
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circumstances and aggravation to be not true as to the crime charged in the first count of the information the crime
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involved great violence great bodly harm threat of great bodly harm or other acts in disclosing a high
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degree of Cruelty viciousness and callousness sign for person we the jury and pan to try the
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above title case find the defendant Matthew Queen guilty and felony to it murder of M hon murder in the second
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degree the verdict meant the jury did not find Beyond a reasonable doubt that Micah's murder was premeditated or that
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it involved Micah being kidnapped and tortured but it also meant they didn't fully believe Queen's story either that
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he was merely trying to wrestle a gun out of Micah's hand to protect himself when Bailey dropped a weight on Micah's
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head the second deegree conviction felt almost like a middle ground between the two sides it took 45 minutes for the
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jury to read their verdicts on the remaining charges Queen was facing in total he was acquitted of 10 and
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convicted of 25 for the first First Time Queen wore a mask in court making it harder to see
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what if any reaction he had when we walked out of the courtroom the mom seemed stunned a little
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confused it felt like I was in the wrong court room at first and then I think that's when I realized okay I am
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obviously not processing this it's like my brain is not processing this and so I'm going to rely on Dy I'm going to
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rely on Lance or I'm going to wait and talk to Eric SMI you know that da and get the information
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because obviously I'm not thinking clearly immediately after the verdict prosecutor Smith quickly reassured the
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moms that Queen was still facing a lengthy sentence given all the other crimes he was convicted of and even
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though jurors didn't believe the murder happened the way that Smith and investigators thought it did they still
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got a murder conviction even if it was the Lesser offense as we walked out of the courthouse that day you could sense
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the sheer exhaustion coming from the moms Jane said she needed time to process everything it's hard to explain
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how I feel because I have been not letting myself feel things for so long I feel happy he'll never get out of
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jail um that he was found guilty and um going to move on and still fight to F Bailey Cheryl said all she wanted was to
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go home and sleep for a week maybe now we can just rest before Cheryl left a woman walked
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up to her and introduced herself as sergeant Garrett's wife Cheryl immediately embraced her and again began
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to cry as Cheryl says we've taken her husband away from her and her family for a long time and we're so
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grateful about a month later the moms threw their third annual golf tournament raising money for secret witness so
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cases could have rewards it was held at the nicest golf course in Country Club in town dozens of businesses were there
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offering free services just glad to have a presence at what had become a popular
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local event the moms raised $20,000 that day the next morning we were back at court for Matt Queen
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sentencing before the judge would announce how long Queen would spend Behind Bars Cheryl was
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given the chance to address the court here are some excerpts from her statement we deeply appreciate everyone
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who has acknowledged Mah as a valuable man deserving of a thorough investigation and
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protion despite decisions and behaviors in the end of his life my M was so much more than his last
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few years was so much more M was murdered and dismembered and thrown out like trash throughout the
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county he was stolen from us he is ours he has always been ours and now only God knows where most
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of his body Li our family has been traumatized for more than 4 years fing our way back from very dark
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places has been and continues to be unbelievably hard and even after all of these
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individual blows we still came here here at all cuz he is ours and he is purely loved as I began there's no beauty in
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all of this and what we have lost Cann be restored to us but we respectfully ask that the
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maximum sense Allowed by law hand it down in this matter then Matthew Queen was given a
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chance to speak here are some excerpts from his statement I thought a lot about what I
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would say to my best parents even the chance but I know have put into words like
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how guilt remorse sorrow disappointment shame overwhelming and just simply tell you
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that I'm sorry I know and I know that you were told some pretty horrific stories about how Micha must have
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died and now you have the truth and I'm start it took so long to get there all I can hope for is that you see
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that I'm not the monster you would like to believe I was no matter how hard they tried or how
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hard they wanted to be right they were wrong wrong about what happened my friends are wrong about
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me I do have a heart and but what it's worth my heart goes out to you I love my children more than I love my
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own life and I know that you love yours no less than I love mine which is why I'm trying
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to express how S I am no matter what's been said about me no one can deny that I love my kids
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and if you can if you can see me in that life for just a moment and maybe for that moment
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you'll believe me when I tell you I'm story about everything I'm stor Queen was given a sentence of 86
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years after the sentencing I sat down with Sergeant Garrett and brought up something I'd wanted to discuss for a
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while Ba's loved ones and even myself you especially initially thought could she really have been involved in
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murdering Micah or was she just there and terrified and maybe that's why she went missing but you think you think it
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was more than that you think it was more than her you know being the girlfriend who was yes there's even testimony in in
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both the prelim and the trial where uh she made comments to people that she was going to kill him if she got the chance
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to do so she expressed her hatred towards him and she was Queen's girl just like one of the other subjects in
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the case referenced uh he referred to them as Bonnie and Clyde and that's a pretty good analogy because they were
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both involved in things together Jane minimizes her daughter's possible involvement and and I constantly had
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that conversation with her and and I just keep remind her just because she was alleged to be involved
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in something doesn't mean that's who she is as a person I knew her ants sir but after the trial I asked Jane
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anyways do you think that Bailey killed Micah no I don't until I see evidence Beyond a
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reasonable doubt if she was made to do something like that why would she want to do that to Micah when she would tell
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me he would help her so I don't know what her motive was I've asked what would be Mo to be for killing
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Rea or helping in his murder there's Queen's account and then there's investigators theory that the
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murder stemmed from a stolen gun but myself and others have questioned if that's really why remember Bailey's
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friend Molly who said Queen threatened her at gunpoint twice she testified at the trial about the missing gun debacle
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she said it all started at a small New Year's Eve party at Queen's house to ring in
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2018 it was an intimate Gathering just her and her ex-boyfriend Alex Bailey queen and mic she says everyone was
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drinking and having a good time until Queen realized one of his guns was gone here's her
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testimony he got very angry and came to me and accused my baby's father and then
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went and accused Micah how was he acting horrible just a note here Molly often refers to
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her ex as her baby's father anyhow she testified that she was adamant then and now that her ex did not take the gun
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leaving Micah as the suspected Thief prosecutor Eric Smith then presented text messages between Molly and Bailey
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from one week after Micah's murder the texts implied that Molly felt she was getting blamed for the missing gun and
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she wasn't happy about it going to direct your attention to uh this is from March 30th
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2018 you send a text that says he got my ass in a lot of [ __ ] almost killed yes
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okay who's the he Micah and you continue but he stole from the wrong person and ever since nobody
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can get a hold of him yes to your best your recollection who are we talking about Micah
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I'd seen this text exchanged before in police reports that built the case against Queen the messages appeared to
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support the theory that everyone thought Micah stole the gun and that Bailey and
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queen were still upset about it several months later but then Queen's attorney Tim Hennessy got up to question Molly
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about those same messages do you remember the the text we saw up there earlier yes and you're saying that you
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believe who you're discussing there is Micah yeah yes okay now if I were to say that text thread begin with the question
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have you seen Alex lately does that change your memory at all about who you're talking to in those
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texts I don't remember exactly but I would assume it would be Micah again Alex is Molly's ex Hennessy then handed
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Molly the full printed out text conversation does that help you remember that text conversation better yes okay
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and who you're talking to there about who stole from the wrong person things you're talking about Alex
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correct yes and there it was those text messages actually weren't about Micah after all
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it wasn't a dramatic moment in court though it was dropped after that I wondered at one point if I was the only
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person who thought it was significant and then later on I went through the police reports that discussed the same
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text messages and now knowing they were about Alex they took on a new meaning as within this same conversation Molly
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literally says to Bailey yeah he stole it but it wasn't done without the permission of you both letting him into
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Matthew's house I know this may be starting to get a little convoluted and as my old boss
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Michael trye would say a little too inside baseball but hear me out if the theory is Queen and Bailey murdered
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Micah because they thought he stole Queen's gun on New Year's then why are they still seemingly grilling Molly
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about her ex-boyfriend taking the gun 7 days after the murder and if that really
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is why Micah was killed how absolutely shocking and devastating that one week later Molly admitted that it was in fact
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her ex-boyfriend who stole the gun to be clear the prosecution doesn't have to prove a motive for a murder to get a
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conviction they just have to prove it happened but obviously everyone wants to know why and outside of what was said in
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court the speculation was endless I was UN sure whether to even mention this but in the event someone
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listening is wondering if Bailey's sexual assault could have played a role there is an abundance of evidence that
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says no Bailey was severely affected by her attack and many people say she didn't
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want anyone but especially any man to think they could hurt her again as sergeant it puts it she's trying to get
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her power back of the people that took power from her we know Bailey distrusted a lot of men but by all accounts Micah
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wouldn't have been one of them even people who said Micah was erratic at times towards the end of his life all
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agreed he was fiercely against women being taken advantage of or harmed it seem if anyone in that friend group
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would be an ally to Bailey it would have been him some have questioned maybe Mike
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and Bailey were having an affair and queen found out about it but there's been nothing to prove that at all I've
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heard a couple people say maybe Micah helped Bailey terminate her pregnancy with Queen's baby and queen found out
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but there's no evidence to prove that either though I have definitely thought about the timing of Bailey's pregnancy
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loss of everyone I've spoken with no one could say for certain if Bailey miscarried or if she took the abortion
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pill they tell me they either weren't sure or couldn't remember regardless it appears Bailey's pregnancy came to an
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end within a day or two after Micah's murder here's a clip from an interview between Sergeant Garrett and Matt Vanda
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Castile the context is that Vanda Castile was saying after Mike's murder things between Bailey and Matt Queen
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were bad did you know I know him and Bailey have were fighting she had a miscarriage he beat the [ __ ] out of her
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when that happened he [ __ ] his [ __ ] her mom's whole bathroom up at her house
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mhm why because he thinks that she intentionally killed the baby in a previous episode you heard
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Jane discuss going out of town for a couple days and returning to find her shower door replaced and other changes
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made to her bathroom Bailey told her then that she had had a miscarriage in the shower and she was the one who'd
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caused the damage it's possible that in either scenario miscarriage or abortion the timing isn't significant purely
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coincidental but it's also a possibility that if she miscarried the extreme stress and Trauma for Micah's murder
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could have contributed to that occurring on the other hand if she chose to terminate her pregnancy it's possible
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that Micah's murder impacted that decision I think I've spent so much time thinking about this because it goes to
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the question of what was going on in Bailey's mind around this time a week after Micah's murder and her pregnancy
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loss Bailey posted photos on Facebook of a box of chocolates roses and a stuffed
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animal as well as a shirtless mirror photo of Queen the post caption read I'm a lucky
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lady it's a pretty standard thing for a 20-year-old girl to do subtly brag on social media about how great their
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boyfriend is though it's hard to imagine that Bailey's mindset then was similar to that of other girls her age trying to
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curate an image that says to the world look how happy I am look how good my life is it's hard to imagine it could be
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that simple you know we have a lot of questions here's Cheryl the Wii she's referring to is her and Lance her
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husband and Micah's father we would like to talk to her we would love to know what happened but she's not here and we
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believe she has already paid more than the price of her participation in Micah's murder
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we believe that that uh that her life was taken because she knew too much participated whatever there are several
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theories about Bailey's disappearance but by far the most prominent is that Matthew Queen killed her and he did it
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because as Lance said from day one of the case Micah's dead and she knew too much but even before anyone ever thought
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about Queen being involved in Micah's disappearance and murder Queen already looked suspicious to many in Bailey's
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case which is not surprising I even said to him once you're her boyfriend and the
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last one to see her of course you're going to be a suspect it's nothing personal but aside from just that other
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things piled up early on for one Queen told detectives that shortly after Bailey left his house he met up with her
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to give her some of her clothes and then watched her get into a car with a man and never saw her again
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according to police reports using cell phone data investigators cannot corroborate his story but Sergeant
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Garrett did however notice that the last outgoing phone call made from Bailey's phone on the day she disappeared
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connected to a cell tower by Matt Queen's brother's home the same brother Queen said this about on a recorded call
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to his wife you're told they're still here and he has to take those to the job right away yeah go get them right now
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cuz you know they listen to everything right now when questioned Queen's brother
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admitted that tools were code for guns and that he hid Queen's guns before the cops could get to them which led
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investigators to wonder what other evidence might his brother have helped Queen get rid
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of the suspicion surrounding Bailey's phone activity didn't end there I had been messaging her on Snapchat trying to
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get her attention see if I could get her to respond because on Snapchat I could see if she opened my message and it
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would tell me when and it would give me a date you know so this is Bailey's friend Maddie describing an incident
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that took place a few weeks after Bailey's disappearance and randomly one day she opened my message and she
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started to type back and I was like oh my gosh and I'm waiting and nothing you know nothing I'm like okay what the heck
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so I start typing back and I'm like who is this you know who has Bailey's phone what are you doing like answer me and so
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I start calling it and calling it and nothing and then I get a message back and it's from Queen and he tells me oh
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this is Bailey's boyfriend I have her phone I'm like crazy cuz you didn't have her phone which disappeared a few weeks
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ago so how do you have it now you know I went off on it my did I was pissed there's no indication Bailey's
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physical phone has ever been found but when Queen was arrested on a firearm charge a month after biley went missing
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the phone he had on him that day had a SIM card that was attached to Bailey's phone number so when in theory it would
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seem Queen could make calls or send messages from bayley's last no number I don't know what if anything Queen has
00:36:06
told investigators about the SIM card but the limited reports I have show he did admit to monitoring bayley's social
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media accounts after she went missing he said he did it in hopes it would help him figure out where she was his
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admission in my opinion complicates her case and the ability to determine if social media activity from her accounts
00:36:28
was her doing or Queens back in the summer of 2018 when I just begun looking into the case someone reached out to me
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about a strange message they received on Snapchat from Bailey's account and sent
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me a screenshot it was bizarre started out with a lot of profanity and accused this person of having involvement with
00:36:49
people who quote make a business out of abducting women then it went on to reference a
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Bible verse it was aggressive and seemed nonsensical and it ended with quote this
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is not a game you wish to play and then there's that Facebook message that her friend Jessica got a couple days after
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Bailey was last seen prosecutor Eric Smith read it aloud during Queen's trial I [ __ ] up I need to disappear uh for a
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little while Smith seemed to use the message as evidence pointing to Bailey being involved with mik's murder but
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Jessica saw saw it differently so I thought that was so weird cuz I'm like normally she doesn't even write like
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that like I don't even know if that's her that wrote it Queen adamantly denies sending any messages pretending to be
00:37:38
Bailey after she went missing but since he admitted to accessing her Facebook how can law enforcement know for sure
00:37:45
who sent it Jessica also shared what I thought was interesting information about how
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Queen would drop by her house unannounced after Bailey's disappearance and talk to her about new numerous
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different groups of people he thought could be involved he mentioned the Hell's Angels
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a lot Queen also told people when Bailey left she said she was going to stay with
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her quote cartel connected family this reminded me of Micah's trial when prosecutor Eric Smith grilled Queen for
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starting rumors that the Hell's Angels and the cartel could be involved in Micah's
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disappearance another thing that stands out is the timing of Queen's preliminary
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hearing from the gun charges he was facing and Bailey going missing the next day I asked Sergeant Garrett what he
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thinks about that I mean it's definitely part of the case can't go much further into that because it's still an active
00:38:39
case but definitely something to that uh to take note of you might remember a couple weeks before Micah went missing
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biley gave a recorded interview to Dave Brown a private investigator working for
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Queen's defense team at the time in that interview biley said the guns found in Queen's car were hers and that she put
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them there without his knowledge she told Brown she had started carrying around guns after she was sexually
00:39:05
assaulted by multiple men I've often wondered if at that hearing Bailey was supposed to testify
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on Queen's behalf or if her statement was to be presented to the judge in hopes the case against Queen would be
00:39:18
thrown out the attorneys involved won't discuss it with me but in transcripts from the hearing there isn't a mention
00:39:24
of Bailey taking responsibility for the guns in fact Bailey is barely mentioned at all and when Queen eventually went to
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trial for the gun case once again Bailey's deposition was not mentioned so it's unclear to me how important
00:39:39
Bailey's statement really was and what if anything the timing of her disappearance and the hearing have to do
00:39:47
with each other here's the private investigator who used to be part of Queen's defense team Dave Brown if
00:39:54
Matthew Queen killed her which I believe he did okay it wouldn't make any sense for
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him to kill her because of our statement Brown makes a good point logically you'd think if you were
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fighting charges for something that someone else said they'd take the blame for you'd think you'd want that person
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around but as Brown says we now know Queen and Bailey had much more to worry about than just those gun
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charges I think at some point and especially after their crimes possibly together she was probably trying to get
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away from him because he was just going over the top and you know I just think that again with her knowing everything
00:40:41
she knew that he just believed that you know I've got to get rid of this loose end and I think that's what happened
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that's my personal opinion here's Bailey's sister Caitlyn there is absolutely no way she could have
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witnessed all of that and queen thinking that she would be able to keep her mouth shut and not talk
00:41:06
about it a couple guys tied to the circle of friends said the same thing essentially Bailey wouldn't be the
00:41:13
person you would want to commit a crime with here's one of them the few times I'd hung around with her you couldn't
00:41:19
get her to stop talking I mean she might have been involved but I think she would have told
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and I don't think she would have kept quiet about it like I don't think her psych would have allowed her to do that
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and I think that's part of why she's not around during an interview between Sergeant Garrett and Matt Vanda Castile
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Sergeant Garrett expanded on this possible loose End Theory it came up in discussion when Sergeant Garrett brought
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up Sarah fanda castile's ex and Bailey's friend who started dating Queen after Bailey went missing Sarah has always
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maintained she doesn't know what happened to Micah or Bailey eventually she did tell prosecutors she remembered
00:42:04
a night around the time Micah went missing where Queen and Bailey came over and Bailey was acting a little strange
00:42:11
and asked if she could borrow clothes but that's it anyhow Sergeant Garrett suggests to Vanda Castile maybe Sarah
00:42:19
could know more and is protecting Queen who at this point she had just had a baby with that's a whole other
00:42:27
interesting caveat to the dynamic of them because Micah goes missing right Matt thought Bailey was you know
00:42:35
possibly snitching possibly cheating who knows what but ultimately she's kind of
00:42:39
a loose link right that could get him caught up for whatever happened to Micah all a sudden she goes missing
00:42:47
right you're locked up so the only missing link for the people at your house that night that know what's going
00:42:54
on in Sarah it's the whole keep your friends close enemies closer Dynamic almost right to me it kind of out
00:43:01
outside looking in seems kind of weird being inside looks it looks [ __ ] weird their conversation seems to
00:43:09
suggest that Queen may have quickly coupled up with Sarah because she potentially knew things Queen didn't
00:43:15
want her to share but at the end of the day it's all just theories including the discussion
00:43:21
that Queen may be involved with Bailey's Disappearance in order to silence her it
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appears no no one has ever told law enforcement that they have direct knowledge that Queen did anything to
00:43:31
Bailey including Matt vand Castile despite how convincing he may have sounded when he said this on the phone
00:43:38
to Sarah I'm going tell you straight up Bailey's in the same [ __ ] place that my kid Vander Castile did have
00:43:44
information that was key in solving Micah's case but when it came to Bailey like so many others he told Sergeant
00:43:51
Garrett all he had was just a hunch I don't think she would just up and leave I really don't Vandy Castile elaborated
00:43:59
on what others said about Bailey being someone you wouldn't want is your partner in
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crime everyone has thought Bailey was been a snitch honestly I think Bailey was think she was a snitch I think
00:44:10
Bailey realized that she got herself at some point too deep into something M and
00:44:17
tried to get out of it but got pulled deeper in Vandy castile's response didn't quite answer
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why he or anyone would think biley was snitch but I find what he said very telling
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[Music] nonetheless I don't take reporting such serious allegations against someone
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lightly especially when the person hasn't been charged with the crime they're being accused of Queen has never
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been charged in connection with Bailey's disappearance and he deserves the opportunity to respond to what's been
00:44:50
said about him since the day I first came across bayy and Micah's cases I've tried hard to speak with him both when
00:44:57
he was a free man and since he's been in custody whether it was showing up at his
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front door or trying to communicate with him through his attorney for 5 years nothing worked and I couldn't wait
00:45:09
forever this story would have to be released without him and just when that was about to
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happen my phone rang this is global CH L you have a prepaid call from Matthew Queen that's next time on the final
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episode of the Bakersfield 3 [Music]