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[Music] about 2 years after the charges were filed the trial began for Matthew Queen
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it was the first time I'd been back in that courthouse since leaving Bakersfield more than 3 years earlier a
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prominent defense attorney I had always rubbed the wrong way saw me walking down
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the hall and asked an old cameraman of mine where'd she park her broomstick it was good to be back the energy as we
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waited outside the courtroom felt electric eager young reporters clutched their notepads and laptops craning their
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necks searching for anyone who looked like they might be worth trying to interview cameramen fiddled with long
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extension cords and jurors sat there with a look of nervous curiosity not making eye contact with anyone while
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wondering what are we about to walk into Cheryl and Lance stood at the end of the
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hallway away from the crowd pacing Cheryl wore bright blue with a pin of a yellow rose yellow roses had taken to
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symbolize Micah as he'd spent many years loving them because they reminded him of
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a dear friend he lost Jane and I sat together quietly studying the jury members who'd be making the decision
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that would drastically impact the mother's lives finally the bth opened the courthouse door and ushered us
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inside the District Attorney's Office had picked their top guy for the job Eric Smith head of the homicide unit and
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a prosecutor that had won high-profile cases before with without letting the cameras and constant media coverage
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throw him off his game but this case wasn't just high-profile it was extraordinarily complex with 35 charges
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in total they ranged from illegal firearm charges to criminal threats to other people in the friend Circle and of
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course the biggest charges were the kidnapping torture and murder of Micah the trial was going to be long and at
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times very technical not exactly the easiest case for a jury to digest I'm Olivia Lavo and this is the
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Bakersfield 3 [Music] prosecutor Eric Smith started off the trial by summarizing all the different
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crimes Queen was accused of eventually ending at mic's murder here are a few excerpts of prosecutor Eric Smith's
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opening statement Queen and despot were out in the detached garage for about 3 hours
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ultimately Bailey returned from the garage she was visibly shaking Queen returned the next day and
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asked for help to get rid of something he didn't spe specifically say a body Micah he just said help me get rid of
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something one thing that Matthew vand Castile did that day is he pointed out to Sergeant Garrett there's a spot in
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the garage was kind of weird it was left behind by Matthew Queen I suggest you go
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and see what that is ultimately The Test shows that is Micah holen bake's blood so ultimately a
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saw was used to dismember the body of Micah holsen bake before it was placed in that black
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bag now you will hear about how a powerful impact to the head is ultimately what caused the death of
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Micah holen ultimately they can't discern or they can't definitively say it was a
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gunshot wound cuz no bullet is recovered but based on the injuries uh it is very
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likely that a gunshot wound to the head is what killed Micah holen big during Eric Smith's opening statements I
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realized it was never explained that Bailey was missing I wondered if jurors thought to themselves where is she why
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isn't she being tried along with Queen this was the only thing said that day and ultimately ever during the entire
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trial that perhaps alluded to it this is a text message uh sent by uh Bailey it says I [ __ ] up I need to
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disappear uh for a little while can't use this phone that happens at the end of April
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about a month after Micah holen bake has been killed this is the same message you've already heard about that was sent
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to Bailey's friend Jessica the one that Jessica said she thought didn't sound like Bailey Smith then went on to
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reference the comment on the mom's Bakersfield 3 Facebook page Matthew Queen writes what if one of the bk3 or
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Bakersfield 3 was responsible for the other bk3 again that goes to Bailey despot
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being the who helped him the co-conspirator in the murder of Micah holen as Smith laid out reasons why
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Matthew Queen should spend the rest of his life in a Cell Queen looked on intently occasionally writing notes
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Queen wore dress pants and a button-down shirt attorneys want their clients to be
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viewed as regular ideally good functioning members of society not as an inmate before they're convicted but the
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white Velcro tennis shoes tend to be a giveaway Queen's attorney Timothy Hennessy wore cowboy boots with his suit
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he kept his hand on queen's chair somewhat leaning into him as if they were old friends here's his opening
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statement to the jury good morning ladies and gentlemen uh they don't teach you in in law school how to do an
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opening uh when by the time you get to go you sense the vibe in the room as that everyone but you thinks your client
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did it but I can tell you that won't be the same by the end of this by the end of this you may not like Mr
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Queen hell you may even hate Mr Queen you will not think he's responsible Mr hon B's
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death I think much as you've always heard about the Bakersfield 3 that is not one evil man killing three friends
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uh it's no special type of evil uh it's it's a story just like the stories that go on in this Courthouse every day in
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every courtroom it's a story about drugs it's a story about addiction and it's a story
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about violence this is not any special type of evil this is not a story about one evil
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man this is a story about a sad and tragic group and you're a juror on this case CU
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I trust that you can see that difference you will understand that Everything That Glitters Is Not
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Gold that you will understand that this is not a story about one evil man this is a story about a sad and tragic
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group and at the end of this I will not be the only one who thinks that Mr Queen
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is not responsible for Micah's death thank you as Witnesses began taking the stand
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there was an apparent theme of people's memory and credibility questioned one of
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the witnesses might as well have walked into court with the message don't listen
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to anything I say tattooed on her forehead I just want to say I'm not uh credible I was on drugs using drugs
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heavily she was a prosecution witness meant to help prove one of the kidnapping allegations against Queen but
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when she took the stand it didn't quite go as planned I'm not credible like I'm telling all of you guys that I'm not a
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credible witness when that witness was told she needed to come back after lunch to
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continue testifying she mumbled something under her breath you [ __ ] she wasn't the only witness who seemed
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like they didn't want to be there and was also having issues with their memory such was the case with William Brown a
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prosecution witness who was also a longtime close friend of Matthew Queen this is Smith's co-counsel prosecutor
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Melanie aliia asking Brown about Bailey now would you say that Bailey was a bit aggressive she seemed like she
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could be at times yeah she was angry about things that happened to her in her life some of the things that I heard her
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talk about I I can understand why she'd be angry what would she say about Micah she
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just she didn't really say much about him except for she didn't like him now do you recall Bailey ever
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telling you anything about wanting to kill [Music] Micah um I'm I'm not sure to refresh his memory prosecutor
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Elia handed Brown a transcript with an interview he did with Sergeant Garrett previously in there you state that
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Bailey had told you at some point I want to kill that [ __ ] one of these days if I get a chance referring to
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Micah you you told Sergeant Garrett that right yes Ma so you remember making that
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statement what' you think when she said that I thought she was just doing what like most people do when they're
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irritated about something just talking outside of the neck I don't remember exactly what
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conversation was that came up about Micah but she was just like she like oh one of these days I like to kill that
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[ __ ] it was I didn't take her seriously you know she didn't did you think that was a weird statement to make
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no cuz in conversation on daily I I hear people say that all the time you hear people saying they want to
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kill people all the time oh yeah okay I tell my brother almost twice a day sometimes I like to blow his face
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off huh of course I never wood he's my brother but you know prosecutor aliia then asked him
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about a comparison he once made between Bailey and Matthew Queen and an Infamous
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couple I asked him something about um they were trying to be Bonnie and Clyde so why did you say that the Bonnie
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and Clyde reference where is that stemming from just the the impression I got from him and you you testified that
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Bailey was running around acting thuggish at time yeah what does that mean I know she was uh so pretty that
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you wouldn't see a pretty girl like that trying to just be that hatefully gangster you mean I I don't really know
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how to explain it so how was she trying to be gangster she was trying to fit into a crowd of people that she didn't
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belong with the crowd of people that Matt was around at the same time wasn't he he didn't belong around them either
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they're just totally different types of people Matt's a hardworking you individual that was taking care of his
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family and doing doing what he's supposed to do and some of the people was around with myself included was were
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all screwed up on drugs and didn't have any thoughts or hope for a future Brown wasn't the only person who said they'd
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heard chilling statements and brushed them off here's Bailey's friend Molly on the witness stand do you recall whether
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or not you ever heard Matthew Queen say he was ultimately going to kill michelon
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B I know there's been statements yes now based on your time hanging out with uh Matthew Queen with Bailey I mean is this
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normal conversation I'm going to torture a guy and I'm going to kill him I didn't
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think it was serious like like you know who tortures somebody you know when he's
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talking about torture killing Micah at the time was he also expressing why can't
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recall now this information that you had at the time of Mr Queen what he wanted to do to Micah what did you do with that
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information did you call the authorities look tell Micah and what did you do I didn't do anything with it CU I didn't
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think he was serious now when these comments are being made was Bailey in the room for
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that yes and what was her response she was for it what do you mean by that she um wanted to go along with
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it what were you thinking about your friend Bailey when she's expressing a desire to
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go along with torturing and killing someone that's it's crazy talk did you try to talk her out of it
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no Cheryl and Jane were sitting about a row apart silently looking forward as the prosecution went through testimony
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about Bailey making statements they said supported their argument that she and queen killed Micah together it was
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moments like that during the trial that I realized technically in order to win a
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conviction against Queen and have him behind bars indefinitely jurors would have to believe that Bailey helped kill
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Micah as that was the prosecution's theory which is where it got deeply complicated for Jane she and Cheryl both
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wanted the same thing in terms of Matt Queen being convicted and sent to prison but the last thing Jane wanted was
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anyone thinking her daughter was a killer it was such a twisted strange situation Bailey and Micah's
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relationship was brought up again when Caleb one of Queen's alleged kidnapping victims took the stand were you aware of
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kind of the interactions between Bailey and Micah whether they got along they were uh pretty well known for not
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getting along they were just really hostile towards each other they had a apparent history and it was like if they
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were together in the same setting it was just a matter of time before someone was
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fighting with the other one about who knows what at the time I found myself thinking back to the
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comment Sarah left on my very first story that suggested the possibility that Micah and Bailey's disappearances
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could be connected M's dad had commented referring to them as acquaintances Sarah
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responded to that and said Micah was more than an acquaintance but she didn't say friend maybe it meant nothing or
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maybe it was intentional despite some witnesses saying the two couldn't stand each other
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they seemed to be around each other a lot but if this trial was showing us anything it was that this friend group
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had some Oddities to it including their seemingly being a lot of of discussion about sex trafficking and sexual assault
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to be frank some of this starts to get convoluted but here's what we know Matt Queen seemed to talk about sex
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trafficking a lot he posted about it on social media often accusing the Bakersfield Police Department of being
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involved during the trial testimony was shared about some of the people in the circle of friends pointing the finger at
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one another that they'd apparently assaulted women I found this to be the most confusing part we also know that
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Bailey reported to law enforcement that she'd been gang raped by four men and then a few months later she'd apparently
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been sexually assaulted again sex trafficking sexual assault and overall mistreatment of women also came
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up numerous times as it pertained to Micah it seemed to be a well-known part of his character even among
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self-proclaimed drug addicts and criminals that Micah was very against these things and you might be thinking
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to yourself well who isn't against sex trafficking and abusing women but it wasn't just that Micah was against it it
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was that he was vocal enough about it that it was almost a part of his identity to the people in the friend
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Circle Tim Hennessy Queen's defense attorney asked multiple Witnesses about this here's Hennessy questioning Sarah
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Bailey's close friend who started dating that Queen when you were talking about some of the things that M had rant about
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uh were some of those having to detail how he rescued women that were being pimped out or something of that effect
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yeah he didn't like that kind of stuff okay did he ever get also worked up a rant about people making those
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accusations about him I'm not saying they're true I'm saying those accusations being made towards him
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yes I knew there had to be a reason Queen's attorney wanted this brought out in court but I couldn't figure out why
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and then Hennessy called Queen to the stand for many of us in the courtroom it was almost surreal knowing he was going
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to share his side of things after years of saying little to nothing other than everyone had it all wrong Mr Queen why
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are you testifying today well I think it's about time the truth come out Queen discussed meeting Bailey meeting Micah
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and their friendship and remember the disturbing photo Cheryl described in a previous episode that Queen sent to
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Micah that made it look like Bailey was dead Queen said if really wasn't as weird as it sounds it was literally just
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as a joke to make it look like she was dead and fake her own death and then it turned into well let's let's send it to
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Mike and see if he comes so that's when we sent the picture to him to see if he would come over and help me get rid of
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your B he showed up okay and so she was prepared she was hiding behind the Suburban and when he walked up she
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jumped out and was like up you come to bury me you mother eer okay like it was what was his response to that he was
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smiling he was like I knew you weren't dead Queen said Micah thought it was funny and that Micah himself was a fun
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joking kind of guy most of the time Mah was hot and cold Mah was pretty charismatic like he was kind of fun to
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be around right up until he wasn't like he would everything you would be like the center of attention life of the
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party and all of a sudden it would turn as soon as he felt weird about something and then
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Queen's attorney Tim Hennessy brought up all the talk among the circle of friends
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about sex trafficking and how it seemed people in the circle of friends accused one another of sexual assault which had
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come up in some witness testimony and again I found to be odd what was the relevance we were about to find out it
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began with Queen discussing the last time he saw Micah when Micah showed up to his house here are some excerpts of
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what he says took place he comes in he sits down we are in the garage he was talking about a girl
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that he suuck with he was kind of bragging about the experience and I made a comment of kind of like with
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Ashley what does that mean my understanding of that situation was there was a misunderstanding with Ashley
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and their sexual relationship the the story was a little strange but Queen went on to explain
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that a woman named Ashley made a joke or something like it after she and Micah slept together and Micah somehow
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completely misinterpreted her comments as her saying the sex wasn't consensual the queen said Ashley never meant to
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imply that and I understand it was him overreacting to something she had said her trying to explain to him that's not
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what I'm saying but him getting worked up over yes Queen explained Micah was very sensitive
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about this misunderstanding between him and this girl Ashley so when Queen made that comment quote kind of like with
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Ashley when Micah was talking about sleeping with someone new he says Micah had a strong
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reaction he flips out he jumped out of his chair pointed a gun at me and said I did not
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break what's going through your head what's going on through my head M has lost his [ __ ] again he pointing a
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gun and directly behind me in the living room with my four-year-old son watching
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Caron what happens next I stood up and told him you better to put that damn gun away how's he acting what's going on
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he's shaking his hand is shaking Bailey walked in through the garage door as soon as she walked through the door he
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turned the gun on her I responded by tackling my to the ground I'm struggling to subdue
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Micah and I'm screaming at Bailey to find the gun where's the gun I tried to get his
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hands behind his back I'm trying to get as soon as I get the other one on there that's when it happened what happened
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Bailey dropped a 40 lb dumbbell on his [Music] P after that it looked like somebody
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jumped over a gallon of red paint I panick I don't know what to do I'm just trying to I tell her to give me one of
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the towels one of the chop towels that are there I'm trying to put it under his head my response is like baby what what
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did she [ __ ] do she says I didn't mean to what's going through your mind what's happening now my mind is utter
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like just utter Panic my biggest fear is that my four-year-old's going to walk through the door and see a dead man in
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my garage all I wanted to do was just fix it make it go I just I want this over I want this done I want just hot on
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my want this hot just don't want it anymore there's a roll of plastic over in the corner that we were using to
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build a duck pond in the back grabbed that plastic unrolled it rolled Micah over grabbed the gun
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that was underneath him set it on the table and then I wrapped him up we wrapped him
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B Queen said he then turned to his old friend Matthew vanic Castile I called Matt asked to use his garage
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what exactly do you tell Matt my exact words I need to use your garage can't ask why Queen said he and
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Bailey drove to vand castile's went in the garage and we began to literally chop my
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body Bailey had a plan to chop them up in drop them in the ocean or the lake like her I don't know
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her plan wasn't too realistic but at time I'm I don't know what to do at this point the plan still
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was undecided I mean I think it plan gravitated too we just need to take him and bury him somewhere
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somewhere where no one's going to find him Queen testified they spent most of the next day driving around trying to
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decide on a location to bury Micah he says finally he and Bailey found a place in the desert that seemed to
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work at some point we I realized that there is an arm missing queen said it was sheer chaos at
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that point the rest of Micah's body was buried aside from his skull and one of his arms they'd misplaced and he said by
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the time they'd found it they decided instead of going back to the desert they should just go to the river
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instead when he finished testifying that day most of us were stunned including Sergeant Garrett I've never heard of
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anybody taking the stand in front of a jury admitting to chopping somebody up and discarding them at they seem
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startled by that you know statement as well that's kind of unheard of I don't really put much weight in his his uh
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testimony as far as his explanation what happened um cuz for 4 years he told me he had nothing to do with Micah's case
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and that we were barking up the wrong tree he was threatening lawsuits that we were wasting our time and then the man
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took the stand admed to chopping him up holding him down while somebody else allegedly killed him which that's a
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whole another thing that I don't think is what happened and then admitted to chopping up and discarding
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him but his testimony wasn't over yet Queen still had to undergo cross-examination by prosecutor Eric
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Smith which which is the reason why defense attorneys rarely have their clients testify it's a completely
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different situation answering questions on the stand from your own attorney versus a fierce prosecutor determined to
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catch you in lies prosecutor Smith is a quiet man un assuming he doesn't like the spotlight
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like some other attorneys he certainly doesn't try to put on a show but he is not the prosecutor you want
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cross-examining you he jumped right in with Queen is this something that you do that just
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normal course of your life that you assume no fault in anything but blame everyone else is that a fair assessment
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of you absolutely not I'm pretty sure I got up here and took blame for everything I've done you minimize
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everything don't you no here it's Bailey's fault this is Bailey Bailey's doing this it was interesting because even
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though prosecutors charged Bailey with mic's murder as well I got the Feeling here that they were offended really that
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Queen pinned it all on her Smith also zeroed in on Queen and Bailey's relationship here are a few
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different portions of his testimony at this point you're concerned about Bailey and her cheating on you
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no you have an insecurity problem is that a question or is that your observation you wanted her to get
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rid of Facebook you wanted her to get rid of Snapchat you wanted her to stay at home so you're a 40-year-old hang out
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with a 20-year-old you didn't want her to be on Snapchat which most 20-year-olds use
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what was the issue with that what's wrong with Bailey communicating with people on
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Snapchat well I just didn't like it I didn't like that now after she was gone you started
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telling people that Bailey was extremely violent did you not uh she was violent yes you recognize
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this message that you sent out yes now hear you say did I ever tell you Bailey has a list like a stark girl in
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Game of Thrones a [ __ ] list you're sending this information out that she's got a list of what
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type uh like a list of people who have wronged her think that was the Stark girl list thing from Game of Thrones so
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you're putting it out there that there's people that's wronged her that she wants
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to get back at that's what you're yes putting out there again trying to muddy up as it relates to
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Bailey yeah make her seem violent right this was an interesting moment it seemed
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prosecutor Smith thought Queen made up that biley had a list of people who'd wronged her but her friend Jessica did
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describe something similar in a previous episode Smith also focused on the image
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he says Queen created for himself reading from Queen's text messages I'm just about fed up with you
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disrespecting you wrote there right yeah you're about to find out why they call me the boogeyman yes all right you
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should be answering my calls like it's life or death yes Queen said the boogeyman label was a joke that his
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friends made this is what you liked at the time you like that people think that you're that they're scared of you no I
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wouldn't say I liked it you like that Micah called you scary map made you feel good no I thought it was funny that he
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saw me as such a scary person and this is to your brother yeah damn dude seems like nobody answers or responds I'm like
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this whole [ __ ] town forgot who the [ __ ] I am that's what you thought at the
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time I think goes the same time nobody was answering my call everybody's been like everyone
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was cuz people are supposed to be scared of you because of what you do you're the
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boogeyman this is your own words it's like the whole [ __ ] town forgot who the [ __ ] I am it's not like
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you said hey bro you're forgetting who I am this is you're talking about everybody your little group of people
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they're forgetting who you are I don't know what group of people you're talking about cuz that's your image in the in
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your mind at the time who you thought you were you thought you were a badass you thought people were scared of you
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you enjoyed it prosecutor Smith then brought up how Queen created several fake Facebook
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accounts to reach out to people after Bailey and went missing including Cheryl Micah's mother and that Queen spread
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constant misinformation to try to throw off the investigation you even seen try to make
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it seem like you were in danger during this time didn't you I believe I was in danger oh from what you cutting yourself
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up no other dangers all right this is uh from May 7 2018 first Micah and then ultimately say
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who's next me that's what you're putting out there I'm in danger right yes you're trying to make people
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think you're in danger when you're the one cutting somebody up you even blame the cartel for Micah going
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missing correct I don't know if I blame them for Micah to refresh his memory Smith read
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Queen a message he himself had sent to someone right and did you hear the arm in the river it was Micah this is from
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64140 on December 21st 2018 right that's kind of [ __ ] scary I don't know what the [ __ ] is going on in this town but
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it's sounding more and more like cartel [ __ ] yeah all right you even blame the
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cartel for what happened to Micah yeah they blaming everybody yeah which C tell are we talking about
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Mr Queen it's me kind of trying to divert away from the fact they're probably going to find out you blame
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Bailey you've lied to holson bake's family you're blaming the cartel but now you're telling the truth
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is that is that kind of what your assessment is that's exactly my assessment anyone else you blamed you
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tried to throw the investigation off or you lied about anyone else now that I recall all right
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what about the Hell's Angels you ever say they were involved I said that Micah was messing
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around with h Angels you thought Micah holen bake was a [ __ ] idiot didn't you he would say
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a lot of stupid things to some people he probably shouldn't have lastly Smith dug into Queen
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regarding Micah's murder at times it was hard to listen to you cut him up we did
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yes you describe cutting off his arm I didn't cut his arm off but cut his leg off and it was Prett pretty
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disgusting so Bailey cut his arm off right yes what about his head did you cut his
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head off no so that one as well you're saying Bailey did it Bailey cut his arms and head off when you cut off Mr holsen
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bak's legs what did you think thought it was [ __ ] disgusting okay disgusting enough that
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you went ahead and cut off the other one it wasn't easy Smith then brought up the rope that
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was tied to the bag queen threw in the river that held Micah's arm when asked why the Rope was on the bag queen said
00:32:53
it was because he initially tried to tie it to rocks as a makeshift anchor to keep the bag from
00:32:59
moving now why did Bailey's purse have that same rope attached to it I couldn't tell you why it's on
00:33:09
there let me guess Bailey cut a piece off and tied it to her purse I don't I didn't tie to there I don't know why I
00:33:14
don't know why it's there same rope tied around your headboard yep right why is it
00:33:21
there those things that we bailing our R to some 50 Shades of Gray type of stuff
00:33:29
so that little piece of rope that's cut off you're saying that's for sexual purposes that's cut it's cut off it was
00:33:38
longer obviously so we got that orange rope that's on your headboard got the Rope on Miss Des
00:33:49
spot's purse and then on the bag where we find Mike's arm is that your trophy to remind you of what you did
00:33:58
that's preposterous trophy right trophy of what whose DNA is on that rope Mr Queen be me
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and Bailey's your DNA brand new headboard and you're tying some cheap Marine rope to it the only rope I we had
00:34:15
in the house the only rope I could find then Smith grilled Queen on his disposal of Micah's skull asking him why
00:34:24
he filled the helmet bag with rocks because I didn't want any to find it I never imagine a f kid find it now
00:34:35
this whole bearing Micah it was a joke to you I don't find it funny at all I don't
00:34:47
think it's a joke you thought it was a joke at the time and you don't think it is now but you thought it wasn't even a
00:34:51
joke at the time Smith then read a text message Queen sent to Bailey the day after Queen says he disposed of Micah's
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body sorry about last night the job took longer than expected you know how I like to do
00:35:06
things the right way never cutting any Corners you cut a man up and you're riding in a message never cutting any
00:35:15
Corners everything to you is a joke that's what You' said the whole time that's not funny at all that's what you
00:35:22
wrote Never cutting any Corners this is hours after you dismembered a man there's no correlation I'm not trying to
00:35:29
be puny in this text by using the word cut odd choice of words wouldn't you agree I agree never cutting any corn
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very odd unintentional after Queen told his story on the stand about what happened to
00:35:46
Micah the trial was put on pause for a day while he and Sergeant Garrett and other investigators went out to the
00:35:53
desert where Queen agreed to bring them to where he said he and Bailey bar buried the rest of Micah's body and the
00:35:59
dumbbell he said Bailey killed Micah with but nothing was recovered aside from a small piece of bone that was out
00:36:07
in the open investigators said they couldn't tell if it was animal or human and prosecutor Smith did not seem
00:36:15
thrilled that Queen had seemingly wasted their time where's the dumbbell I mean asked them I don't know
00:36:22
I don't know what was recovered the last person who supposedly knew where it was
00:36:26
is you where's the dumbb right where I told them that it was there's no dumbbell there Mr Queen
00:36:33
where's the gun that you're saying Micah had where is it disassembled and thrown
00:36:37
in a garbage can I'm not a here to play lawyer okay I don't I don't know I'm asking you is there one shred of
00:36:45
evidence besides your own word that proves what you're saying about Micah a anything on social media a photo
00:36:54
a text a tweet a post anything anything that supports your claim here as you testify no I didn't post any of my I
00:37:03
don't post any evidence that I committed right you post about other people that they probably did
00:37:11
absolutely any witness that supports your description of what happened nope none
00:37:21
right once prosecutor Eric Smith was done with Queen the trial had pretty much wrapped up overall there hadd been
00:37:28
60 Witnesses over a 10-day period now it was time for both attorneys to make their case one last time before the jury
00:37:37
began deliberating here are portions from both attorneys closing statements starting with prosecutor Smith Smith
00:37:45
reminded jurors that days earlier the trial was put on hold so Queen and Sergeant Garrett could go to the desert
00:37:52
to try to corroborate Queen's story even at this late hour he comes up he wants to show where things are at he
00:37:59
was given the chance in a murder trial to go find what he says is out there and you know what it's not out there it's
00:38:07
not out there he was given the chance he got to go out there and lead him out there there's no dumbbell out there he
00:38:16
got the chance that's unheard of in the end Queen and prosecutor Smith's stories of
00:38:23
Micah's death were fairly similar or their narratives differ was the manner in which Micah was killed and so much of
00:38:31
that boils down to whether or not Micah was still alive when he was brought to Vanda castile's garage that night Smith
00:38:38
says he was which backs his theory that this was premeditated murder meanwhile queen says Micah was already dead when
00:38:47
he and Bailey showed up to Vanda castile's garage which he says they used to dismember his body remember queen
00:38:54
says Micah died at his house much earlier in the afternoon afternoon and that it was Bailey alone who killed
00:39:01
him this is significant because even though Queen admitted he took part in dismembering and disposing of Micah's
00:39:08
body he was not actually charged with either of those things so if the jury believed his story he'd quite likely be
00:39:16
acquitted of all charges pertaining to mic's murder and now in the final moments of the trial prosecutor Eric
00:39:24
Smith was determined to make sure that didn't happen he told the jury that Queen's own phone records show he was
00:39:31
lying and that during the time he said this all went down at his house Queen wasn't even there he's not even at the
00:39:38
house this is red is Matthew Queen this is at 117 supposedly supposedly Micah holen bake is deceased on his garage
00:39:47
floor supposedly his four-year-old son is in the other room but Matthew Queen's out and about driving it's not true what
00:39:55
he's saying it's de ably false none of his story is true not one bit he's not wrapping Micah up in plastic he's not
00:40:07
cleaning up the rags and really do you think he's out driving with a dead body no do you think he's driving in the dead
00:40:14
bodies at home and his four-year-old kid is there no because it didn't happen the
00:40:19
way he said it Smith says not only is Queen a liar he has no remorse for what he did pointing out a photo they found
00:40:28
that Queen took at the river this is April 6th 2018 it's about two weeks after he's
00:40:38
dismembered Micah holen Bay he's thrown the bodies into the river the Kern River
00:40:44
and what does he do here he is having a jokey old Jolly Time right there in the background of his photo you can see
00:40:54
where he's thrown the skull of mahome Bay can you imagine taking that photo can you imagine it you know he knows full
00:41:03
well where Mah holen bake's head is it's right behind him in this photo there he
00:41:10
is acting like he's some kind of badass then Smith said something I know killed Jane to listen to as she sat in
00:41:19
the audience with Cheryl and Dy you had two people together who have expressed a desire to kill
00:41:28
someone that's Matthew Queen and Bailey William Brown actually put it pretty well it's kind of like Bonnie and
00:41:34
Clyde but that's what they were they had both expressed the same desire and they
00:41:40
both became a part of that of that killing of Micah holen Bay they wanted it he ended with he
00:41:50
killed Micah holen Bay whether or not Micah was at kind of the low point of his life at the time he should have been
00:41:57
given the chance to rise from that but he took it from him next was Queen's attorney Tim
00:42:04
Hennessy but I want to be clear about something I do not think Queen is Being Framed if I ever go missing I hope
00:42:11
Sergeant Garrett gets the case I don't know if he'll take it I hope he gets it he's a good cop he did a great job he
00:42:19
got the when the where the who I disagree on the what Hennessy circled back to the very first thing he told the
00:42:28
jury when the trial began this case is not an elaborate dark murder plot but rather a series of sad lives
00:42:37
intertwining resulting in one giant tragedy and what we've been hearing is like this version that tries to avoid
00:42:43
all that and tries to get right to the evil of it all but the sadness of it all I
00:42:49
can't get around Hennessy said based on everything we know about the circle of friends it's
00:42:56
not hard to believe that a poor taste joke about Micah having non-consensual sex would set him off leading to his
00:43:03
death I don't think this is is nothing to do with the Micah that his family and everyone's remembers is a different
00:43:08
person he's ER radic he's a loose cannon so you've got someone who is on record as being unstable and being
00:43:16
offended that he'd be tied into any of this sexual assault stuff then Hennessy brought up Matt vantile Queen's former
00:43:23
friend who told Sergeant Garrett all sorts of damning things about Queen vand Castile like I won't say his name three
00:43:30
times I'm afraid he'll appear like Candyman that guy terrifies me in addition to the Candyman comparison
00:43:36
Hennessy said there were numerous reasons why Vanda castile's information he gave Sergeant Garett is
00:43:43
questionable by the time he gets interviewed in November 20th fersfield 3 is a full-blown thing there's been
00:43:49
Olivia of voice specials Andy added he's been shown a gender reveal party to be fair I found that Vanda Castile was
00:43:57
shown the gender reveal video of Matt Queen and his ex Sarah at the very end of the police interview anyhow Hennessy
00:44:05
told jurors that while Queen's Behavior wasn't perfect he was not this evil criminal mastermind and that throughout
00:44:13
the years of the investigation an image was created of him making him and the case seem much more Sinister than
00:44:20
reality here's how Hennessy wrapped things up for the jury I got a friend who every time his
00:44:27
team has the ball if he stands up and the reason why he does that is he thinks if he sits down they're never
00:44:32
going to score every time I get up get on a plane I do the sign of the cross and I hit the
00:44:37
gate number why cuz if I do not do that the plane will crash because the reality
00:44:43
is we got to feel like we're in control of something because the reality is like
00:44:47
dayto day is just like a dice throw I leave for work 5 minutes early that's the day that I get hit by a car but life
00:44:53
works like that life works like chaos right we never know the idea that at any minute some someone someone else can do
00:44:59
something and it changes everything a war could break out there could be an epidemic all that stuff at any minute
00:45:04
drives us crazy so we knock on wood we come up with things that make us feel like we in
00:45:13
control as a group we've come up with things over time that we can place the reason why the crops aren't working is
00:45:20
because of witches right we come up with monsters we come up with folklore because then we can put
00:45:25
something on one thing and we feel better we feel in control it's less scary they want to hang Queen for being
00:45:35
the boogeyman because if it's just all Queen then all this other stuff it makes sense that these people that we've seen
00:45:48
we don't normally see people uh like Bailey everyone describes being so beautiful or Micah
00:45:57
like this young handsome guy that's not usually who we're used to seeing being affected by Violence by methamphetamine
00:46:01
by guns that's not what we're used to seeing and the reality is this is like way scarier and a much bigger problem we
00:46:06
got to deal with but if we just say it's Queen right then we're done it's just evil
00:46:14
queen you can hate him you can convict them on a bunch of stuff and man you can even hate me for
00:46:21
standing up for him that's fine but you cannot convict him for killing Michael holson
00:46:29
and that was it now it was time for the jury to deliberate and for us to wait felt like I was in the wrong
00:46:41
courtroom I'm not going to give [ __ ] Matt Queen the satisfaction of seeing me cry we the
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jury find the defendant Matthew Richard Queen that's next time [Music]