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A chilling crime that shocked a quiet community

November 19, 2018 / 45:20

This episode covers the horrific case of Catherine Knight, detailing her violent relationships, her eventual murder of John Price, and the subsequent trial.

Catherine Knight, born on October 24, 1955, in Aberdeen, New South Wales, had a tumultuous upbringing. Her father worked at an abattoir, and she followed in his footsteps, becoming a meat slicer. Despite her seemingly kind nature, she exhibited violent behavior from a young age, leading to tumultuous relationships with multiple partners.

The episode recounts her relationships with David Cal, David Saunders, and John Chillingworth, highlighting her violent tendencies and mental health issues. Each relationship ended in chaos, with incidents of violence, including stabbings and threats.

Ultimately, her relationship with John Price culminated in murder on February 28, 2000. After a violent argument, Knight killed Price, decapitated him, and cooked parts of his body. The gruesome details of the crime shocked the community and led to her arrest.

Knight was charged with murder and initially pled not guilty but later changed her plea to guilty. The trial revealed her manipulative nature, and she was sentenced to life imprisonment without parole, becoming the first woman in Australia to receive such a sentence.

TLDR

Catherine Knight murdered John Price in a brutal act of violence, leading to her life imprisonment without parole in Australia.

Episode

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[Music] the crime scene was described as looking more like the set of a horror movie than
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real-life it was one of the most horrific crimes ever committed not only did it shock the small town of Aberdeen
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in country New South Wales it shocked the entire nation even parts of the world what could possibly drive somebody to do
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this a psychiatric illness or premeditated pre-planned pure evil [Music] Catherine Knight was born on the 24th of
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October 1955 she is a nun identical twin Catherine was the more feminine of the twins she liked to help a mummery on the
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house assist with the cooking and cleaning and like playing with the dolls Cathy Knights parents were Ken night and
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Barbara Knight who married each other in 1952 Cathy's father left school at the age of 14 to work at the abattoir in
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Aberdeen country New South Wales where he lived at the time he later met Barbara and married her they moved to
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Queensland into various parts of New South Wales where Ken continued to work as a slaughterman at the abattoir
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he was considered excellent at his job and a very hard worker Barbara had a short fuse temper she was
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hot-headed and loved using excessive foul language Barbara and Ken are in a strict household the kids did as I was
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told there was no mucking about there were six kids in the house altogether including Cathy
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after moving around to various parts of the state and interstate they finally settled back in Aberdeen in 1969
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Aberdeen is a small country Sam located in the Upper Hunter region of New South Wales about 240 kilometers which is
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about 150 miles north of Sydney the main source of employment for the people of Aberdeen at the time was the local
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abattoir there wasn't much else going on in the small country town that had a population of about 1,500 people as a
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kid Cathy wasn't allowed to have pets but she loved animals if she came across an injured animal like a bird with an
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injured wing she would bring it home and look after until it was better from a young age she showed that she had a
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fiery temper on bus rides to and from school some of the boys used to torment her and give her a hard time but Cathy
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not could look after herself she was involved in more than one fist fight with the boys at school and she could
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more than hold her and it's likely Cathy inherited a fiery temper and love a fair
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language from a mother Barbara Cathy left school at the age of 15 she had achieved only a bare minimum level of
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reading and writing skills there was only one thing she wanted to do when she left school following her
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father's footsteps and work at the Aberdeen abattoir her first application was rejected but she applied again in
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1971 and she was successful the second time she was 16 years old when she started work
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Kathy started as a general laborer mopping up the blood and cleaning up the animal flesh and carcasses she then
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moved her way up to become a slicer which she enjoyed immensely she loved a job and she was very good at it
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she was very efficient and precise with a knife Kathy took pride in her knives she always kept them in top condition as
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she grew older Kathy was described as generally kind natured and helpful with a heart of gold
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she was average looking tall slim with red hair and she wore glasses she liked to make her own clothes she was good at
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knitting she played bingo there was nothing spectacular about her at all but there
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was a dark side to Kathy a very dark side there was her fiery temper constant use of foul language and dark violent
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behavior Kathy was somebody you didn't want to get on the wrong side of she was as vindictive as anyone could be if you
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did the wrong thing by Kathy she would do everything in her power to get you back ten times worse
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it was whilst working at the Aberdeen abattoir in 1973 that Kathy met her first husband David Cal there was a
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quick romance and they quickly got married it wasn't much of a wedding they hopped on a motorbike together right to
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the local registry office which was in a nearby town called muscle Brook and then
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they celebrated the wedding with friends at a local pub Kathy was 18 at the time
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it didn't take long for David to get his first taste of the dark side of Kathy it
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was that night actually David had drunk excessively all day and he was struggling to perform to Kathy's
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liking in the bedroom when he fell asleep she woke him up by putting her hands around his neck and strangling him Kathy
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let David know she wasn't happy despite this incident the marriage actually started out quite well that kind natured
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helpful heart of gold version of Kathy couldn't have been happier but after about a year things started to turn sour
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Kathy's temper and mood swings started to take off and things got worse and worse and gradually turned very violent
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by the time Kathy had given birth to their first daughter Melissa David had had enough and he took off to Queensland
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with another woman who also happened to be pregnant to him it was 1976 this left Kathy feeling
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crushed and heartbroken but also furious she decided to take her anger out on their daughter Melissa she walked into
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the local railway tracks and left merely so right in the middle of them a local man happened to walk past at the right
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time and saw Melissa on the tracks he quickly ran down and saved her a train came through not long after that
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later that day Kathy picked up an action started swinging it around threatening numerous people police were called and
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they took her to a local hospital for a mental health assessment but she was released soon after only a few days
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later on the 3rd of August 1976 Kathy went to the house of one of her co-workers Molly Perry
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she asked Molly for help telling her that Melissa was sick and she needed a lift to the doctors Molly was only too
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happy to help Barry out and together with her mother and younger brother she put Kathy in the car to drive her to
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the doctors but Melissa wasn't sick at all soon after getting in Molly's car Kathy pulled me out of butcher's knife
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and held it up to Molly slashing her on the cheek she demanded that Molly drive her to coffs harbour which is about a
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six-hour drive away coughs Harbor is where David calots mother Jean lived caffee later admitted her plan was to
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ask Jean why David left her then kill her and then commit suicide instead though Molly drove to a nearby service
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station to try and get help Kathy got out of the car dragging Molly's younger brother out
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with her holding the knife up to him the police were called and quickly arrived they were able to disarm Kathy using
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broomsticks one of the officers received a small cut in the struggle again Kathy
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was taken to hospital for a psychiatric assessment while Kathy was being treated
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in hospital Melissa was looked after by Kathy's parents Barbara and Kim Kathy was diagnosed with a personality
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disorder when suffering from personality disorder a person can be loving and caring one minute before losing complete
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control and been capable of dangerous violent behavior the next minute David Keller was still up in Queensland at the
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time when he got a call from police about the incident he returned home and visited caffiene hospital with his
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mother dream a hearing was held in hospital on the 9th of August 1976 and it was decided Kathy could be released
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into the care of a gene and David this was only six days after the incident gene and David were given strict
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instructions to make sure Kathy took all of her medication it didn't take long for another violent incident to happen
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actually it happened pretty much straightaway as soon as they left the hospital they drove to cut his parents
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house to pick up Melissa as soon as they got there barbara stormed out of the house and attacked David she grabbed him
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around the throat and screamed at him blaming him for Kathy's breakdown Kathy responded by getting out of the
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car walking up to barbara and punching her in the face knocking her to the ground
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Kathy then stood over Barbara and screamed don't ever touch David again after this david and kathy got back
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together they moved to Queensland together and Kathy got a job as a meat slicer in an abattoir up there Kathy was
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in love with her knives so much so she asked David to mount them for her so she could keep them in the bedroom just in
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case she needed them but it didn't take long for the relationship problems to strike again
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Kathy's mood and temper was still there she was controlling and demanding and couldn't let David's affair go there
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were plenty of arguments between them and a lot of them are physical Kathy was the reason they were physical she
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attacked David with punches and kitchen pots and frying pans and anything else she could get her hands on Kathy also
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had an affair with a co-worker from the abattoir where she worked it was payback
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for David's affair David actually walked in on them in bed together but regardless she still wanted to try
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and make the marriage work and not long after him and Kathy had another baby their second daughter Natasha Kathy
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would do things like tell David to go to the pub have a few beers but then ring the pub and demand him to come home
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immediately one night when he arrived town from the pub much later than she wanted she
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whacked him over the head with a frying pan as soon as he walked through the door
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they put David in hospital but he didn't press charges not long after that during
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another argument Kathy hold a knife up to David's throat and another night when Kathy wasn't
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happy with David she bought petrol all over his clothes and set them on fire Kathie's behavior was troubling and
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becoming increasingly more violent Barbara not actually warned David at one time
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don't play up on her she'll kill you finally in 1983 Cathy again worked David over the head
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splitting him open put him in hospital yet again but that was finally the end David again didn't press charges but he
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called the marriage off once and for all Cathy responded by cleaning the house out she took everything including the
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curtains and the light bulbs but David couldn't have cared less he was happy and grateful it was finally over
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thinking there must be a God looking out for him somewhere Cathy moved back to a
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parent's farm in Aberdeen with their two daughters Melissa and Natasha Cathy returned to work at the Aberdeen
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abattoir doctoral role as a meat slicer but in 1985 she heard her back she never
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fully recovered in her employment at the Abbott our was terminated it wasn't long
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before Cathy was in another relationship this time with David Saunders who she met at the Aberdeen bowling club just
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like a relationship with David Keller her relationship with Saunders started off great both couldn't have been
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happier but that dark side that lurked in Cathy was ever-present just waiting to come to the surface one day out of
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nowhere Cathy snapped and started accusing Saunders of trading on her her unpredictable violent behavior made its
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first appearance and it would go on like that for the next three years on and off
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Cathy would be lovely and korn one day unpredictable and violent in the next during one of their arguments Cathy
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grabbed a knife and went into the backyard and killed Saunders dog she slit its throat she said she did this in
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retaliation for cylinders kicking her in the stomach when she told him she was pregnant
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Saunders strongly denies this and he says he never touched her he says she just went out in the backyard for no
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reason started going off and one of her violent tangents started making accusations about him and then slip his
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dog's throats soon after that Cathy took an overdose of pills and had to be rushed to the
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hospital Cathy always maintained it was Saunders who was the violent one towards her and
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she would only act out in self-defense and at times revenge but Saunders always denied this despite the extreme ups and
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downs of the relationship they ended up having a daughter together in 1988 in 1989 Cathy received a compensation
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payout for her back injury $15,000 in total she used the money to pay off the house that her and Saunders were living
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in effectively making it her house not long after that the relationship hit rock bottom
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several more serious arguments occurred and Cathy was even issued a restraining order against Saunders although Saunders
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maintained it was he who should have had their order against her and it was proven right when Cathy stabbed him in
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the stomach with a pair of scissors during yet another violent argument it wasn't a serious injury it didn't even
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require medical attention but it was enough to convince Saunders it was over but it didn't remain over for long they
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got back together soon after to give the relationship another go but after several more violent arguments and Cathy
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cutting up and throwing out all Saunders clothes the relationship finally ended for good
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meanwhile anything David Kellet would send to his girls like Christmas presents birthday cards flowers etc
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Kathy wouldn't give to them should we throw them out before the girls ever saw them she would then tell the girls their
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dad never sent them anything after the relationship ended with Saunders Cathy soon entered another relationship with
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John Chillingworth Cathy didn't like to be alone she always had to have someone and never took a long to find a new
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partner and just like past relationships the early days were brilliant Chillingworth says Cathy was terrific to
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be with he thought he had found the perfect soul mate they met at the Aberdeen abattoir 20 years earlier when
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Cathy had just started working there as a 16 year old but nothing happened between them then in Chillingworth ended
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up moving away and got married Chillingworth had only recently just returned to the area and that's when he
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met Cathy again as Chillingworth had been out of the area for a long time he wasn't familiar with what Woodbine near
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the legendary Cathy night stories his mates quickly filled him in but Chillingworth didn't care he was
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convinced Cathy was the one for him and not long into their relationship Cathy felt pregnant with their first child
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Cathy's fourth in or after this Cathy's true colors started to Shawn and the arguments and violent behaviour started
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after one fight she went and spent a night with her ex David Saunders and she couldn't wait to rub it in
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chillingworth's face there were also issues between Cathy Zelda stored on Melissa and
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Chillingworth Melissa didn't think much of him and the feeling was pretty much mutual Chillingworth actually admitted
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that he hit Melissa on one occasion he says he immediately regretted it Cathy made sure to take revenge on
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Chillingworth for hitting Melissa she smashed his false teeth when he had a go at her over this she responded by
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smashing his second pair of false teeth just like past relationships one minute it was on and all was good the next
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minute it was off and was filled with Lawrence Cathy gave birth to their son in 1991
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not long after their son's birth Cathy and Chillingworth got into a physical fight and Chillingworth was charged with
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assault Cathy also got a restraining order taken me out against him they separated but it didn't last long they
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soon got back together but Cathy didn't withdraw the assault charge they ended up going to court together that day John
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was put on a good behavior bond and given a fine they then went home together John was a heavy drinker which
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contributed to their relationship problems but he actually did quit and he went on to help with the Salvation Army
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and drug in the alcohol counseling it was through them in 1993 that he got a job opportunity in Queensland for two
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weeks he took the job but he liked Queensland so much that he ended up staying his initial intention was to
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have Cathy and the kids move up there but when Cathy went up to visit him another massive fight between them put
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an end to the relationship for good Chillingworth didn't know it at the time but Cathy had already started seeing a
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new man John price by Nia Cathy had been unemployed for eight years getting bought with her compensation payout and
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fortnightly government pension she had four kids two three fathers the eldest was age 17 the youngest was aged 2 John
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price is born on the 4th of April in 1955 he was the eldest of six children John price had a limited education when
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he left school at the age of 14 he could barely read and write but he was a hard
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worker he worked in heavy machinery earth-moving equipment trucking and mourning John married his wife Colleen
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and they had three children together a son and two daughters tragedy struck John prices family when his father and
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brother became involved in a heated domestic dispute his father picked up a gun and started to load it so John's
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brother picked up a gun and tried the fire a warning shot of him unfortunately he accidentally shot their
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mother the death was ruled accidental and John's brother was charged with manslaughter the loss of his mother
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devastated John he looked for a job opportunity elsewhere so he could move away any film won together with his wife
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Colleen and kids they moved to Aberdeen in 1981 John was described as an easygoing likable character who got on
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with everybody he met he had a laid-back carefree nature he would do anything for
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anyone and never expect anything in return he worked hard and loved to unwind with a beer with his mates at the
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end of a hard day in 1988 he split up with his wife Colleen they had been married for 15 years it wasn't a bitter
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separation at all to show what kind of person John was after they had separated Colleen asked him to borrow money to fix
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a fridge instead he bought her a brand new fridge another time when he found out Colleen was going on holidays he
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slipped $500 into a bank account without her knowing John was a regular at the Aberdeen hotel
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90 locals as the top pub it was one of two pubs in Aberdeen it was known as the top part Bizet's sat on the top of the
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hill the other pub in town was known as the bottom pub I'm sure you come work that here and it was at the top pub
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where John price met Cathy nought Cathy fell madly in love with John and she was
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determined to make the relationship last she was sick of her failed relationships
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she wanted this one to be forever Cathy and John struck up a conversation and that was that they became an item very
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quickly and the common theme throughout Cathy's relationships continued the first few months were described as
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fantastic both of them were very happy together it took about a year for the first major
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arguments to begin and they went on and on from there for no reason Cathy became
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deeply paranoid that John was cheating on her it seems that when David Keller treated on her back in her first
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marriage it convinced Cathy that all her future partners were going to cheat on her despite a few hiccups Cathy
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eventually moved into John prices house but he wouldn't marry her and this was a
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new sticking point in their relationship John said he loved Cathy but he wanted to make sure his children got his house
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he didn't want Cathy to be entitled to any of it that's the main reason he said that he wouldn't marry her slowly but
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surely the arguments escalated from verbal and turned physical their relationship started to
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deteriorate it didn't help when John would occasionally slip up and call Cathy his ex-wife's name Colleen
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worrying signs started to appear Cathy mentioned several times that she would kill John
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but everyone including John just that offers meaningless threats during one argument she said to John you'll
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never get me out of this house I'll do you in first but as time went on Cathy could sense the relationship was
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starting to slip away and that made her furious in 1998 she started secretly filming items in John's house she
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alleges he stole from the mine where he worked at the time ridiculous things like a can of bug spray
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an old first-aid kit that had expired things like that Cathy says she did this as John used to hit her and she made the
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video to hold it over John that if we ever touched her again she would send the videos to his boss but the truth was
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John had taught Cathy he wanted her out of his house and it was near time for Cathy to get her revenge most of the
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stuff on the video hadn't been stolen from the mine at all and what had been taken from the mine was old discarded
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junk that would have been thrown out anyway including the old first-aid kit Cathy
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sent the video to John's bosses at the mine and after they viewed it she invited them into John's house and
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pointed out all of the items to them in person the first aid kit was the downfall even though it was out of date
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and that could prove it was out of date and it was going to be thrown out anyway
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the mines sacked John 17 years of service gone just like that he had worked hard over years to put himself in
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a position that earned him a hundred thousand dollars a year and now it was all gone John immediately kicked Cathy
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out of his house but unbelievably it didn't last it wasn't long before John became lonely
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he started blaming himself for what had happened his maids couldn't believe what
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they're hearing but a few months later John and Kathy were back together but this time she didn't move back into
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John's house still his decision to get back with Cathy actually cost John some friendships and it caused drama with his
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son Jonathan who already hated Cathy before she got John sacked and you know he hated her even more when now
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discussing getting back together Cathy told John if you take me back this time it's to the death
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it wasn't long before the arguments started again and they increased in violence most of the fights this time
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were over John losing his job at the morn but John did go on to get another job Cathy was also starting to cause
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trouble with John's youngest daughter she lived with her mother Colleen but visited John and Cathy regularly John's
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son and eldest daughter had moved out of home and had their own families Cathy's
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two eldest daughters Melissa and Natasha had also moved out of home but her two youngest kids still live with her
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Kathy started telling John's youngest daughter things like John wasn't really her dad and other nasty spiteful things
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like that when John confronted her about it Kathy was doing the dishes so she lunch at him with a knife
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Kaffee stabbed him in the upper left chest John didn't seek treatment he just put a bandaid on it and never reported
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it to police the stab wound left a permanent scar towards the end of 1999 Cathy enlisted the help of a nephew and
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instructed him to steal John's car which was worth about $20,000 but it was uninsured she told her nephew two-burner
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she offered the pain five hundred dollars to do it not satisfied with hurting him financially
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Cathy later asked her nephew to throw battery acid on his face her nephew refused both requests Cathy
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later said to her older brother I'm going to kill pricy and I'm going to get away with it
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I'll get away with it because I'll make out on mad meanwhile John price desperately wanted to end the
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relationship with Cathy for a second time but he couldn't work out how there was just no way that he could see for a
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peaceful separation he was also worried that Cathy might start to target his children if he ended it during the
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afternoon of February the 27th the year 2000 another physical fight occurred during the fight John thought Cathy went
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for a knife having already been stabbed by her before he took off and sought refuge at a neighbor's house John called
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the police he had scratches all over him from the fire but Cathy had bruises as well John told the police he wanted
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Cathy out of his house she had her own place in town where she could go and stay they told him there was nothing
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they could do and he would need a court order banya the relationship had been going for six years on and off there had
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been great highs in dark clothes and that night as it happened many times before they made up after the argument
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and John went to bed at 2:30 a.m. the next morning Monday the 28th of February John woke up startled
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he could make out the silhouette of Kathy standing over him at the bed her arms were behind her back he jumped out
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of bed frightened Kathy had a knife but she didn't John went to work that day he
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recounted the last day's events to his workmates they'd never seen him so distressed he said he thought he was a
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dead man when he woke up to see Kathy standing over him with her hands behind her back that morning his boss offered
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John degan stay with him for a while but it refused that night John returned home
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and actually had a civil discussion with Kathy they agreed they couldn't go on the way they were but Kathy again
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refused to leave his house that night the police arrived with the restraining order which they served on John they
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took the order he had as a result of the fight the night before the 29th of February of the year 2000 began like
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most other days Kathy woke up early and got John organized for work she cooked him
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breakfast and made his lunch John went to work and got permission of his boss to go to the local courthouse to apply
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for his own restraining order against Kathy meanwhile Kathy went and saw her solicitor and dropped in on a few old
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friends showing them the bruises she had after the fight with John two nights ago
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she told one of her friends that bastard's not gonna get away with this I'm gonna bloody get him she made an
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appointment with her doctor and had the injuries recorded John saw the Chamber magistrate at Musselburgh courthouse
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around lunchtime he explained the relationship issues he and Kathy had including all the violent incidents he
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said he wanted to stop Kathy from being able to enter his house after telling his story the Chamber
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magistrate issued a restraining order against Kathy that night John made his way to the top pop Kathy took her
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children out for dinner after dinner she asked Natasha if her two youngest children could stay the
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night at her house Natasha agreed Natasha bean Kathy's second oldest child if you forgot jean
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lady's way home about 9:30 p.m. Kathy arrived at his place about 11 p.m. shared a key to John's house and let
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herself in but there was no fighting no arguing John didn't tell Kathy to leave instead they had sex the restraining
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orders were just words on a piece of paper at that point the next morning John didn't show up for work something
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he never did he always turned up for work he was reliable he hadn't called in nor
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letting on now he was running late people from work tried ringing him numerous times but they couldn't get a
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hold of him they even called the police to see if there had been any car accidents that morning but there hadn't
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as he was leaving for work one of John's neighbors spotted John's car still parked out the front of his house that
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was unusual John always left for work before him his car was never there at that time John's work colleagues decided
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they better call the police police arrived at John's house at about 10 past 8:00 that morning two of the
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first officers on the scene where officer Matthews I was actually working at muscle Brook that day and received a
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phone call at the station from a work matter mr. Pryce's and officer fer longer we got the call from his boss say
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that he hadn't come in and somebody bit out there isn't he was still in the driveway and they couldn't raise anybody
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you know not thinking the worst we were just thinking no he's probably going on or something doesn't woken up I knew Mr
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Price before I knew that he was a hard worker and a reliable man so it was a bit unusual for him not to turn up to
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work and not to make a phone call I went up knocked on the door didn't get an answer saw some blood on the door handle
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look for a little gap into the lounge room which was dark reasonably dark and saw what looked like a bunched up Curt
00:31:25
and hanging down I couldn't raise anybody so decided to go and break into the place soon as we had this complaint
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walked around the side there was some meat lying on the ground anyway went round the back broke in through the door
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as we went in I saw straight ahead what I what I thought was a curtain there was
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something hanging blocking my entry into the hallway of the house I thought it looked like some type of blanket or some
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sort of covering that had been placed up on the archway so I remember I used my left hand push it aside and immediately
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I could feel coldness coming on my left arm so I looked down and my left arm was
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just covered in blood initially I thought I'd injure myself breaking through the back door I
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couldn't understand why my arm was bleeding I realized then it was a human felt it was a skin monster head full
00:32:28
skin just hanging from the top doorframe I looked past it sort of toss on the ground that a head without any genitalia
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and my first reaction then was to turn around to Scotty and say don't looks cause that's the worst thing again say I
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looked through I could look through from there into the land room and I saw what
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appeared to be a human being or what was left and so it was at that point that I
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realized what had happened for something that I'd never seen before I never experienced I had an immediate idea of
00:33:07
what had gone on it was at that point I drew my service pistol it was blood everywhere a lot of blood out from the
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door into the kitchen area there's a pot on the stove I think I might have even said to Scotty I'll give you one guess
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with a DS on the table there was a couple of plates that had meals prepared vegetables and meat cooked sitting there
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sergeant Farell owner was talking to me saying it's gonna be all right we've gotta keep going we've got to finish
00:33:38
this we've got to do whatever it takes he was talking to me and I was trying to hear if I could hear anybody else
00:33:45
because sometimes a little bit under stress you get that auditory exclusion and you're not hearing things you just
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focused on the threat it was quite a frightening experience but once you've stepped into that
00:34:00
situation that's just no backing out so we went to search the place and we went up the hallway we heard what appeared to
00:34:09
be someone's snoring coming from one of the bedrooms so we knew there was someone alive in the house looked in
00:34:20
there and there she was lying on the bed tried to wake her she was obviously drugged on something and couldn't wake
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it properly she was very groggy she wasn't responding so we carried her outside and put her onto the back lawn I
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wasn't sure she had tried to kill herself with sleeping pills or whatever but she certainly wasn't injured in any
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way now handcuff Kathy and tried to question her but they couldn't get any sense out
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of her there was some empty blister packs located and they worked out Kathy had tried to kill herself by overdosing on
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tablets an emulator is called and she was taken a hospital where she was kept in a psychiatric ward
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obviously police say gray fees for Kathy's youngest children after a frantic period of searching they managed
00:35:08
to locate them safe and well at Natasha's house crime scene of us RP DiMaggio was then called to examine the
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scene I got a phone call from V kg which is police radio telling us there had been a murder I said to the operator
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well had an hour to murder and they said well he's been decapitated we came in through the laundry at the back of the
00:35:32
premises and there was an aroma and it was well it's quite a Mack ARB thing it was sweet odor a nice odor as if mum was
00:35:41
cooking us you walk inside and one of the first things you see is mr. prices skin or Pelt hanging from the door from
00:35:52
a meat hook I searched through the through the Pelt for mr. prices genitals further into the kitchen you could see
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blood staining on certain items and into the lounge room there was a body further
00:36:06
down the hallway there was blood staining going into the bedrooms you could see where I think mr. price had
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gone for a light switch there's blood staining on the light switch and also blood that he is coughed
00:36:17
or something on the wall you could see the expiration mark on it but as you go out towards the lounge room these
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bloodstains are getting heavier and heavier his big swipes ways blood-soaked himself and sliding against the wall
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they're also getting lower it comes to a combination at the foyer areas just to come to his injuries he's actually open
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the front door and there's blood splatter on the screen so he's nearly made it out not that it would have
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helped him he would have died certainly you just see the enormity of where it starts in the bedroom and progressively
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gets worse and worse do you get to that point where he's died the blood pool was
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the width of the hallway which was 1.2 meters wide when we examined the body you could see
00:37:02
the body has been there in its entirety there's a big stain on the floor where the head would have been it's been
00:37:08
skinned first you can see it she placed the skin on the carpet to sit it there and it's quite a substantial staining
00:37:14
there's also an outline of the head so she's taken the head off there you can see that she's walked in carrying it
00:37:21
into the kitchen there's this drip drip drip of blood all the way leading to the
00:37:25
cooktop but until we actually lifted the lid off it wasn't confirmed to me it was
00:37:33
a statement she had cut the gluteus maximus off his backside it's it's a big muscle and she's cut that into five
00:37:40
different steaks and she's cooked them bake them in the oven two of them were on one plate two on another plate and
00:37:47
the fifth was out for the dog I believe it wasn't touched but the meals they were like a trophy
00:37:52
and they had the names of each person who was supposed to get them there were two prepared meals on the table complete
00:38:02
with meat and vegetables a piece of paper was placed next to each meal a name was scribbled on each piece of
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paper one was for John's son the other fairies youngest daughter officer Massey Oh then examined the rest
00:38:21
of the scene and collected all of the evidence it didn't take long for news of the murder to spread there were a few I
00:38:29
told you so's and I knew she was capable of that amongst the Aberdeen community during the course of their investigation
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police found that after Kathie had murdered John she cleaned herself up and drove into town and withdrew $1,000 from
00:38:44
his bank account to this day it's unknown what she did with that money Kathie was charged with the murder of
00:38:52
John price in a special bedside sitting in the psychiatric ward of the hospital she was being holding on the 7th of
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March 2000 when interviewed by police she denied having any knowledge of your John's death although she did admit she
00:39:06
was responsible for his death she claims she had amnesia and couldn't remember how it happened it became clear to
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police after speaking with Kathie that she was intending to me on a defense of battered wife syndrome the she committed
00:39:21
the crime due to years of being the victim of severe domestic violence police got to work investigating that
00:39:28
angle and as you've already heard they quickly realized that yes Kathie had been in some extremely violent
00:39:34
relationships but she was the cause of that violence she wasn't the victim of it Kathie was examined by numerous
00:39:43
psychiatrists they determined yes Kathie suffered from personality disorder but a personality disorder is
00:39:50
not actually considered a sock illness they found Kathy's violence and rages were just part of her nature part of her
00:39:57
makeup she got a sick sense of enjoyment out of what she did Kathy's claims that
00:40:02
she couldn't remember anything about the crime were dismissed she was basically putting on a show it was found that her
00:40:11
actions were premeditated and the timing was planned she knew exactly what she was doing she wasn't suffering from a
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psychiatric illness at all she was just pure evil Kathy initially pled not guilty and her
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trial started on the 15th of October 2001 the judge assigned to the case was the Honorable Barry O'Keefe at no time
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as either a barrister or as a judge did I ever strike anything of the horrific nature of Katherine Maronites case she
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pleaded not guilty and the trial began in the conventional way she sat in the dock
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she was quite small and impressive in a crowd you'd certainly never notice her [Music]
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before the trial got going Cathy surprised everyone and changed their plea to guilty I was somewhat nervous
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about this because I was concerned that if I took a guilty plea sentenced her she would then appeal to the Court of
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Criminal Appeal and say she was insane at the time that she made the plea of guilty I decided that I should get a
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court expert to examine her and the psychiatrist came to exactly the same conclusion as the other psychiatrists
00:41:31
that had seen it namely that she was not insane she was quite sane but she was a
00:41:36
bad woman a sentencing hearing was held and all of the grisly evidence was heard
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throughout the whole of the evidence it didn't matter what the witness said she didn't look at the witness it didn't
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matter what the photograph or video was she didn't look at that she sat looking straight ahead
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absolutely impassive there was never a sign on her face of any reaction to any of the evidence at one point during the
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sentencing hearing when some of the graphic details were being presented to the court
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Cathy broke down she started rocking violently back and forth and started screaming she then jumped down to the
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floor and started thrashing a beer but she wasn't fooling anybody when she wanted an adjournment she manipulated
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her behavior so that she got it there after she resumed the same men that she had before but I didn't think that she'd
00:42:35
switched off in sentencing the judge fee on that Cathy's suicide attempt wasn't a
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genuine attempt he didn't believe that she couldn't remember anything about the crime he determined she knew exactly
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what she was doing she acted with planning and premeditation she had openly said many times she was going to
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kill John she had even said she would get away with it because people would think she was mad the judge found out to
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be vengeful valen and believed she was an extreme danger to society he dismissed her claims of battered wife
00:43:09
syndrome finding out the evidence clearly showed she was the violent one in her relationships as a result Cathy
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Knight became the first woman in Australia to be sentenced to imprisonment for the term of her natural
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life no possibility of parole to sentence any person to life imprisonment is a big thing to sentence a woman to
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life imprisonment for me was an even bigger thing this was as bad a case as you got so she had to go to jail for the
00:43:39
term of her life she'd shown no remorse she hadn't acknowledged that she had any
00:43:45
problem at all such a person if released is not unlikely to do the same again there's a real prospect of it
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the detective in charge of the case was Detective Bob wells when I was interviewing Catherine you can catch
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someone's eye and you say to yourself I'm being bullshitted here it's a combination of catching their eye
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catching the expression on their face that you know that this person is feeding you only what she wants to feed
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you and that's why I still believe that Catherine would now be able to provide information as to what took place and
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why it took place after a while of doing jail time Cathy said that she'd finally
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found peace and she was enjoying her time but she obviously didn't like the idea of spending the rest of her life
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there because she appealed to the New South Wales Court of Criminal Appeal she claimed her sentence was too harsh
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thankfully the court rejected her appeal and she will spend the rest of her life
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behind bars to this day she has never given a reason for what she did or why she did it
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and she has never shown any remorse [Music] you [Music]

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Episode Highlights

  • Cathy's Troubled Childhood
    Cathy Knight's upbringing was marked by strict discipline and a fiery temper.
    “Cathy showed that she had a fiery temper from a young age.”
    @ 02m 33s
    November 19, 2018
  • A Dark Transformation
    Cathy's kind nature masked a violent temper that would emerge in her relationships.
    “There was a dark side to Kathy, a very dark side.”
    @ 04m 08s
    November 19, 2018
  • Violence in Relationships
    Cathy's relationships were marred by violence and control, leading to multiple incidents.
    “Kathy's behavior was troubling and becoming increasingly more violent.”
    @ 11m 06s
    November 19, 2018
  • The Cycle of Abuse
    Cathy's relationships were characterized by cycles of love and violence, often escalating.
    “One minute it was on and all was good, the next it was off and filled with violence.”
    @ 16m 52s
    November 19, 2018
  • Cathy's Threats
    Cathy repeatedly threatens John, escalating their already volatile relationship.
    “You'll never get me out of this house!”
    @ 21m 57s
    November 19, 2018
  • The Ultimatum
    Cathy tells John that if he takes her back, it’s to the death.
    “If you take me back this time, it's to the death.”
    @ 24m 06s
    November 19, 2018
  • Cathy's Dark Intentions
    Cathy reveals her intentions to kill John and evade consequences.
    “I’m going to kill him and I’m going to get away with it.”
    @ 25m 39s
    November 19, 2018
  • John's Distress
    John expresses his fear after a confrontation with Cathy.
    “I thought I was a dead man.”
    @ 27m 24s
    November 19, 2018
  • The Verdict on Kathy
    Kathy's actions are deemed premeditated and evil by the judge.
    “She was just pure evil.”
    @ 40m 20s
    November 19, 2018
  • Cathy Knight's Life Sentence
    Cathy Knight became the first woman in Australia sentenced to life imprisonment without parole.
    “This was as bad a case as you got.”
    @ 43m 17s
    November 19, 2018
  • Detective's Insight
    Detective Bob Wells reflects on his interviews with Cathy, sensing deception in her demeanor.
    “I'm being bullshitted here.”
    @ 44m 11s
    November 19, 2018
  • Cathy's Appeal Rejected
    Cathy appealed her life sentence, claiming it was too harsh, but the court rejected her appeal.
    “Thankfully the court rejected her appeal.”
    @ 44m 46s
    November 19, 2018

Episode Quotes

  • Cathy was described as generally kind-natured and helpful with a heart of gold.
    A chilling crime that shocked a quiet community
  • Don't ever touch David again!
    A chilling crime that shocked a quiet community
  • You'll never get me out of this house!
    A chilling crime that shocked a quiet community
  • I’m going to kill him and I’m going to get away with it.
    A chilling crime that shocked a quiet community
  • She was just pure evil.
    A chilling crime that shocked a quiet community
  • She had even said she would kill John.
    A chilling crime that shocked a quiet community

Key Moments

  • Psychiatric Assessment06:31
  • Return to Violence08:47
  • New Relationship12:13
  • Escalating Violence21:31
  • Physical Confrontation21:32
  • Attempted Theft25:12
  • Sentencing Hearing41:40
  • Appeal Rejected44:46

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