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please see the show notes for this episode on your app or on our website you the Californian city of Stanford lies in
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the northwest corner of Santa Clara County just under an hour's drive from San Francisco covering an inland area of
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2.8 square miles Stanford is adjacent to Palo Alto one of the principal cities of the affluent and
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progressive Silicon Valley which has served as an incubator for many prominent and influential technological
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enterprises over the years including Apple Google Facebook and Tesla Stanford is home to the prestigious 8,000 acre
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Stanford University a private co-educational and a non-denominational college and research institution many of
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the city's residents are students or faculty members who live on or around campus in a range of accommodations
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including dormitories coops row houses fraternities sororities single-family homes and condominiums established in
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1885 the university was founded by railroad magnate and California senator Leland Stanford and his wife Jane in
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memory of their only child Leland Jr who died of typhoid fever at age 15 the land began as a stock farm
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with ochre dotted fields and soon developed into one of the largest university campuses in the United States
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despite sustaining heavy damage from two separate earthquakes in 1906 since 1989
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the university has managed to maintain its original California mission architecture from the late 1800s
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characterized by embellished yellow sandstone long low and wide colonnades open arches and two red terracotta tiled
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roofs at the heart of the campus is the main quadrangle the university's oldest structure stretching over 17 acres the
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main quad is reached via a mile-long palm tree-lined Road and has an inner and outer section both of which features
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sprawling lawns courtyards and interconnected buildings housing various departments classrooms and
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administration offices regarded as a national center for research Stanford fetches more than 120 research
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institutes exploring a range of topics from particle physics to international studies given its proximity to Silicon
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Valley and its impressive academic and athletic performance records it is renowned as one of the top universities
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of the world many students go on to have illustrious careers in their field of expertise with past alumni including
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Nobel laureates Pulitzer Prize winners and Presidential Medal of Freedom recipients 150,000 of visitors are drawn
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to the famed grounds annually to explore its many features including eateries shops and gardens as well as a stadium
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Golf Course satellite dish and Church hiking trails around the campus outskirts offer views of the rolling
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countryside and attract by more than 50,000 visitors a year in the early 1970s just over 11,000 students were
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enrolled at Stanford University and the counterculture movement that had started
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in the mid 1960s was still a major aspect of college life students fighting for social and
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political change would often stage protests sit-ins and form to community action groups through issues such as
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racism women's liberation and gay rights Lesley Marie pearl of graduated from Stanford in 1972 with a bachelor's
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degree in history by the beginning of the following year the 21 year old was working as a clerk at the North Santa
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Clara County Law Library in Palo Alto Leslie hoped to become a lawyer and had recently been accepted into law school
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at the University of Pennsylvania though classes had yet to begin at 3 p.m. on Tuesday February 13
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Leslie left to work for the day driving off in her 1972 orange Chevrolet Nova her co-workers presumed she was heading
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directly to her home in the Los Altos Hills where she lived with her widowed mother Florence
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but Leslie never arrived [Music] [Music] Leslee always caught ahead to let her mother know if she was running late but
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by nightfall florence still hadn't heard from her overcome with worry she reported her daughter missing as the
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search for leslie commenced her friends contemplated her possible whereabouts and suggested that she might have gone
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to the wooded foothills of the Santa Cruz Mountains in Stanford south the scenic area was popular with hikers and
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joggers and as Leslie loved to paint it was thought that she may have gone there
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looking for a picturesque a landscape to capture as a gift for her mother at 10 o'clock that night police gaining the
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foothills of old Page Mill Road on the southern Cass but the University campus discovered a Leslie Chevrolet abandoned
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at the gate to an old quarry just off the interstate 280 exit the car was in operable condition but it's key was
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missing Leslie's blue shoes and part of the blue outfit she had been wearing that day were found inside officers
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immediately suspected foul play as Florence Perloff had made it clear that her daughter had never done anything
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like this before an off-duty Palo Alto policeman had cited at Leslie's car parked at the same
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location for hours earlier at approximately 6:00 p.m. he was passing by the area when he observed a Leslie in
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her car speaking to a young man with long sandy colored hair who was standing by her window a beige or gray colored
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car presumably belonging to the man was parked nearby over the following days an intensive
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search of the old quarry was carried out the landscape consisted of tree-lined semi rural roads pockets of dense
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woodland long stretches of grassy pastures and steep hillsides the k-9 unit conducted a ground search but was
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unable to detect a Leslie scent beyond her vehicle at about 10:15 a.m. on Thursday February 15 a police helicopter
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scanning the area caught sight of something down below officers were sent to the location and discovered the body
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of a man with the severe chest wound and a sawn-off shotgun in his hand it was initially believed that the men was
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linked to Leslie's disappearance though a connection was quickly ruled out when he was identified as 24 year old Palo
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Alto resident into former Stanford University student mark Ross bold a coroner concluded market died the day
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after Leslie vanished and ruled his death a suicide the discovery of his remains in the area
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was a mere coincidence the following day of Friday the 16th authorities on horseback searching
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unkempt wooded pastures west of Leslie's vehicle came across her body laying face
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down under an oak tree her blue skirt had been pulled up around her waist and her pantyhose had been removed and
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stuffed into her mouth it appeared as though Leslie's attacker had intended to rape her but had been unable to carry
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out the act when she put up a fire during the struggle he used the multicolored scarf
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Leslie was wearing to strangle her to death a coroner determined to Leslie's time of death as late afternoon on
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Tuesday February 13 several hours after she was last seen alive there was no sign of a struggle or drag marks along
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the path to where her body was found leading investigators to believe she had walked to the area of her own accord or
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without sensing any danger officers spent days collecting physical evidence from the crime scene which was sent to
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the state crime lab in Sacramento for analysis however DNA profiling was still a decade away and - nothing obtained
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could immediately identify a suspect a special task force comprised of 15 deputies from the Senate Clara County
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Sheriff's Department was assigned to investigate Leslie's murder full-time and spent the weekend following up on
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numerous leads one passerby claimed to have seen a group of Stanford University students near the site of the murder
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late on Tuesday afternoon another reported seeing a woman walking with a man up the hill from the abandoned
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quarry none of these inquiries generated any results and despite requests the blond-haired man witnessed speaking to
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Leslie at the quarry gate by the off-duty police officer never came forward but the ninth day of the
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investigation over 1300 work hours had gone into the case but not a single clue or suspect had emerged the task force
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was gradually whittled down to just two part-time officers by April 8 1973 the San Francisco Examiner newspaper was
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reporting that there was little chance that Leslie's murder would ever be solved
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on Sunday March 24 1974 Janet and Taylor was having dinner at a friend's place on
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the Stanford University campus when she announced that it was time for her to leave
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Janet lived in a cabin in nearby La Honda and wanted to get home to feed her two pet Doberman Pinschers and to let
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them out for a run the 21 year old had recently attended Canada College in nearby Redwood City and had taken time
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out of her studies to work with the Stanford Research Institute and a local photography studio and had just started
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a new job as a teletype nest with a marine weather forecasting service in Palo Alto Janet had strong family ties
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to Stanford University her father Charles Chuck Taylor was a star football player for Stanford in 1942 and went on
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to become the school's head football coach and athletic director Janet elected to hitchhike home even
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though it wasn't a long journey from the campus to her house her friends begged her to reconsider and stay overnight but
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the strong-willed independent Janet dismissed their concerns at 7:05 p.m. she was spotted trying to hitch a ride
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at the intersection of Mayfield Avenue and Junipero Serra Boulevard south of the university by 7:35 p.m. she was gone
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[Music] the next morning a milk delivery driver travelling across a bridge on Sand Hill
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Road three miles west from Stanford University caught sight of a young woman's body in a roadside ditch bruise
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marks around her neck matched the design on her knitted turtleneck sweater suggesting something had been pressed
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hard against it meanwhile Janet Taylor had failed to show up to work that day causing her colleagues to become
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increasingly concerned Janet's roommate had also noticed her unexplained absence and called the
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friends she'd had dinner with the opening prior news reports were spreading about the discovery of the
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woman's body and consumed with a feeling of unease Janet's friends contacted the
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Sheriff's Office following this authorities reached out to her parents and asked them to identify the body
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Janet's parents confirmed that the victim was their daughter she was mostly clothed except for her raincoat belt and
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shoes which were scattered every quarter mile along the roadside from her body there was no evidence of rape though
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investigators suspected the crime was sexually motivated they believed the perpetrator had picked two janet up the
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previous night under the guise of offering her the lift she desired before attacking and killing her in his vehicle
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he then disposed of her body in two possessions along the stretch of road where she was later discovered Janet had
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been hitchhiking less than a mile from where Lesley / love's car was discovered abandoned thirteen months prior and -
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their bodies were found two miles apart both young women had been partially undressed strangled and two left the
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barefoot despite the parallels between the two murders an inspector for San Mateo County Sheriff's Department told
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the press no director link had been established stating there are some circumstantial
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similarities and some dissimilarities at this point you can just about draw any conclusions you want nevertheless many
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members of the public believed the two women shared the same killer [Music] investigators explored several leads in
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Janet's case including a witness report of a nervous man seen near the entrance to seize Ville
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Lake not far from where Janet's body was found at about 12:15 a.m. on the night of her abduction a witness saw the man
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standing next to a white 1964 Pontiac Catalina and stopped to ask if he had any problems with his car when he said
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he did not the witness drove away regarded as a slim lead this enquiry went nowhere but the next month of April
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police conceded there had been no progress in the investigation with one officer remarking we don't know who
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we're looking for we have no motive located in the main quadrangle at the center of Stanford University is the
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Memorial Church regarded as the campuses architectural crown jewel in 1903 the university's co-founder Jane Stanford
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dedicated the building to the memory of her husband to Leyland she had two objectives for the church to ensure that
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students had an opportunity to develop their ethics as well as their studies and to provide a comfort and strength to
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the wider community the Stanford's were religious but did not follow a particular denomination and
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decreed the church to be open to all Jane Stanford was deeply committed to the church's design stating while my
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whole heart is in the university my soul is in that church at her instruction inspirational messages and
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religious inscriptions were carved into its walls and enclosed in its frameworks
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one quotation located in the church's East transept reads religion is intended as a comfort a solace a necessity to the
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soul's welfare and to whichever form of religion furnishes the greatest comfort the greatest solace it is the form which
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should be adopted be its name what it will built from buff sandstone and laid out in the shape of a cross the ornate
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building has a terracotta tile roof round turrets low arches and a colorful facade
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featuring artwork of Jesus Christ surrounded by worshippers the interior is decorated with mosaic
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murals stained-glass windows and purple velvet tapestries covering the walls the
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church can seat 1200 people and houses five organs rows of wooden pews and a lectern students used the quiet serene
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building as a place of reflection and to Catholic services are held there several
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times a week shortly after 5:30 a.m. on Sunday October 13 1974 a Stanford University
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night watchman crossed the main quad and arrived at the Memorial Church to open its doors for the day he entered the
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building via the West Side door and walked through the nave of the church into the rear east and transept to the
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left of the altar underneath the stained glass mosaic of a cross he found the body of a young woman when he found his
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supervisors to report the discovery he remarked hey we've got a stiff in here Arlis KD Kumar was born on February 22
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1955 in the town of Linton North Dakota she was the youngest of three children to parents Marvin and Jean devout
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Christians who raised their children to be closely connected with the Presbyterian Church in 1963 the darker
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my family relocated to the state capital of Bismarck a small isolated city on the
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eastern banks of the Missouri River surrounded by forests and an extensive network of hiking trails Marvin and Jean
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ran an automotive company named to darken as standard and helped found the Bismarck Reformed Church later renamed
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the Bismarck Community Church where Marvin served as an Oda and sunday-school superintendent Alice
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attended Bismarck high school where she was selected for the cheerleading squad three years in a row she was described
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by her coach Marge Hill as a bubbly and enthusiastic cheerleader but also was self-contained - girl who was easily
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frightened by violence and hostility she was a popular student and often baked cupcakes for her fellow cheerleaders and
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the school's basketball team Hollis inherited her parents religious devotion and was deeply involved with her church
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community which led to a somewhat sheltered life she had a sense of naivety and was extremely trusting due
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to always seeing the best in people on weekends Hollis taught Sunday school and worked
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for young life a Christian youth organization dedicated to spreading the word of Jesus Christ to adolescents and
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helping teenagers to develop their faith she was also a member of the International nonprofit sports ministry
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Fellowship of Christian Athletes or the FCA that was through the FCA that arles met
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and fell in love with Bruce Perry a fellow Bismarck High student who shared her religious beliefs and
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athletic prowess setting state records in track and field for the one hundred and two hundred and twenty yard Sprint's
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Bruce was born and raised in Bismarck as the second of four children to his home
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maker mother Donna and two dentist father dr. Duncan Perry he's childhood was one of comfort and he
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grew up into a fun-loving popular teenager who was fascinated by anthropology and different cultures in
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1973 Alice and Bruce graduated high school based on his athletic performance Bruce was accepted into Stanford
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University and enrolled as a pre-med student majoring in human biology Alice remained in Bismarck attending classes
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at junior college and working as a receptionist that the dental clinic owned by Bruce's father the young couple
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maintained a long-distance relationship and in May of 1974 Bruce returned to Bismarck to ask for Alice's hand in
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marriage the documents had mixed feelings about the engagement as they weren't happy about Alice having to move
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far away from family and friends to California however when they saw how thrilled to the young couple were they
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supported the marriage wholeheartedly the wedding was held on August 17 1974 at the Bismarck Reformed Church
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afterwards the 19 year old in newlyweds enjoyed a one-week honeymoon in a rustic
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a log cabin owned by the documents and in September Alice embarked on the 1600 mile journey to Stanford with Bruce they
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moved into Quillen Hall in Stanford's Escondido Village an apartment block designated to house married couples and
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Bruce began his sophomore year it was the first time Hollis had ever been away from home and she missed her
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support network while Bruce was busy studying and working part time Alice struggled to adjust to her new life she
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was used to living in a small close-knit community and found Stanford too lonely
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and isolating she wrote a letter home which read friends are hard to find here many times I've been tempted to go knock
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on doors asking if anyone needs a friend but I guess we just have to appreciate each other and trust the Lord for new
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friends - Alice accepted a job as a receptionist at a Palo Alto law firm and slowly began
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to adapt becoming a member of the Stanford Church and spending time with Bruce whenever their schedules allowed
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when her husband was busy Alice took long walks or jobs around the University campus and occasionally visited the
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memorial Church to pray often times she would head out alone at night but stopped after Bruce want her or wasn't
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safe to do so on the evening of Saturday October 12 1974 Alice busied herself around the apartment while Bruce studied
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at around 11:30 p.m. Bruce agreed to accompany Alice to post some letters addressed to her family and
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friends in Bismarck as it would afford the couple some time together and he didn't want her going out alone at night
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it was Columbus Day a national holiday marking the anniversary of Christopher Columbus's arrival to America and the
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University was a hive of activity with rowdy people milling about and music playing loudly from student residences
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as Alice and Bruce walked across campus they got into a minor argument over their car tire which had been losing
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pressure lately and disagreed over who was responsible for pumping it up by the time they had posted the letters there
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was approximately 1150 p.m. still upset by their argument Alice told Bruce she wanted to visit the Memorial
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Church alone to pray this was not unusual as they both have visited the church when they needed to reflect and
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ask for guidance the building was open until midnight and located only half a mile from the Perry's apartment back at
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the apartment Bruce awaited Alice's return but by 12:30 a.m. there was no sign of her he
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returned to the church but it was now closed for the night and all the doors were locked
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he fruitlessly searched the campus before going home again finding their apartment empty at 3:00 a.m. he reported
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Alice missing expressing his concern as he knew she had no friends in town and there was nowhere else she could have
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gone he suggested that she might have accidentally fallen asleep inside the church and been locked in by mistake so
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some officers were dispatched to check the building as it was still securely locked they were only able to survey its
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exterior but noticed - nothing suspicious the situation appeared to be a relatively benign domestic dispute and
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to the officers presumed Alice would reappear once she had calmed down approximately two and a half hours later
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Stanford University night watchman Stephen Crawford came across Alice's body in the Memorial Church she was on
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her back with her arms folded across her chest and her legs spread her head was facing the altar and her body was
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partially underneath the first pew with a kneeling pillow nearby she was still wearing her dark brown
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jacket though her tan sweater had been pushed up to expose her chest her underwear and blue jeans had been
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removed with the pants draped over her lower body and the legs facing towards her head
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markings on her neck were consistent with an attempted strangulation enter glasses were missing given they were a
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valueless item that was speculated her killer had taken them as a morbid trophy Alice had been sexually assaulted using
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two 36 inch long altar candles one of which were still partially inserted inside her body the other had been
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placed between her breasts there was no sign of a struggle indicating Arliss had
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been caught off guard by her killer her time of death was estimated to have been
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around midnight shortly after she entered the church the assault with the candles was believed to have occurred
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afterwards the pointed end of an ice pick was still embedded in an open head weren't just above her left ear though
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the weapons handle had snapped off as it was not found at the crime scene who was
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presumed the killer had taken it away although a small bone in Alice's neck had been broken it was determined that
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the icepick injury had caused her death a partial palm print of unknown origin was also found on one of the altar
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candles a significant find before the introduction of DNA analysis although it was indistinct
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the police arrived at the parries apartment just after dawn Bruce answered the door wearing a blood-covered shirt
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he explained he had used his clothing to stop a nosebleed which he was prone to getting during times of high anxiety
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he wasn't immediately informed of Alice's murder but was asked to attend the police station to file a missing
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person report Bruce was questioned for two hours with investigators presenting him with
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different scenarios to see how he would react he was staunchly defensive when it was
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suggested that he had lashed out at Alice upon discovering she was having an affair or had fallen pregnant
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Bruce voluntarily provided his fingerprints and agreed to undergo a polygraph test all the while repeatedly
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asking where's my wife when he passed the polygraph the police finally informed him that Alice had been killed
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Sunday Mass at the Memorial Church went ahead at 11 o'clock the following morning the congregation which included
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journalists and grieving students were seated on folding chairs placed on the front lawn to preserve the crime scene
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inside they were told of Alice's murder and asked to join in a silent prayer according to reports Dean of the
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Stanford Chapel Reverend Robert Hamilton Kelly had seen Alice's body and expressed his belief that its treatment
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appeared symbolic as though the murder had been part of a satanic ritual he told the congregation that he refused to
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let evil triumph and to church services would continue as normal that evening a Catholic priest the Blessed the building
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to cleanse it of malevolent forces the FBI constructed a profile of Alice's killer describing him as a loner with a
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possible military background aged between 17 and 22 who kept a detailed diary and collected his victims
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possessions as trophies when asked what he remembered about the night of Sunday October 13
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Bruce Perry couldn't recall anyone watching or following him or Alice when they went their separate ways in the
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main quad two people who were in the Memorial Church when Alice Perry entered said she had walked to the front pews on
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the left hand side of the altar then knelt down to pray she was still deep in prayer when they left at midnight a
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passerby who had been outside reported seeing a Caucasian man with sandy colored hair parted to the left and to
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the church around this time he was approximately 25 years old had a medium build and was casually dressed in a
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royal blue short-sleeved shirt night watchman Stephen Crawford said he had been running late to lock up the church
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arriving at 10 minutes past midnight he entered the rear of the building and couldn't see anyone inside but just in
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case he yelled out we're closing for the night the church is being locked if anyone is here you have to leave when
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nobody responded he closed and locked the doors due to the extent of Alice's injuries it seemed unlikely that her
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assault occurred in the 10-minute window between when the other churchgoers left
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and the building was secured that was plausible that when Stephen Crawford called out to see if anyone was still
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inside the perpetrator may have already confronted Alice and forced her silence this theory aligned with a statement
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given by another witness sometime between 12:15 and 12:30 a.m. and men passing the church thought he heard a
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noise coming from inside the building towards the choir loft he paused to listen but heard nothing further
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so assumed he'd imagined it and to kept walking when Stephen Crawford returned to the church at around 5:30 a.m. to
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open it up again he approached the Westside door and to notice that was partially open the lock appeared to have
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been broken open from the inside and he suspected a robbery had taken place after entering cautiously he discovered
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Alice's body though no one else was inside investigators were also informed there was a window in one of the church
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restrooms that didn't lock and might have provided a covert access point for Alice's killer it was possible they
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entered via the unlocked window and - then broke out through the west side door crawford claimed that during his
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shift he entered the church at 2:00 a.m. to conduct a routine check at that time
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the west side door was locked and he noted nothing of concern inside as Alice was killed shortly after midnight this
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assertion didn't fit with the police timeline as Crawford would have encountered her killer or her body if he
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entered the church at 2:00 a.m. it was believed that Crawford did not conduct his 2:00 a.m. check but claimed he did
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so to cover up his own negligence in failing to carry out his duties due to his ability to access the building
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Stephen Crawford was considered a suspect but was ruled out after passing a polygraph test and when it was
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determined that his palm print didn't match the one on the altar Kendall found with Alice's body Robert Hamilton Kelly
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Dean of the Stanford Chapel raised suspicions as he too had access to the building at all times but he also passed
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the polygraph and his palm print wasn't a match in total more than 100 palm prints were lifted from various surfaces
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throughout the church but none matched the one on the candle seven people were identified as having visited the
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memorial church on the night Alice was killed including ours herself each person of interest was identified and
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subsequently cleared except for the sandy haired man in the royal blue shirt the Alice Perry case marked the third
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unsolved murder of a young woman on or near Stanford University in less than two years a $10,000 reward resulted in a
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few tip offs from the public but none offered any useful leads on Tuesday October 15 a memorial service was held
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for Alice inside the Memorial Church where the crime scene was still cordoned off with rope Reverend Hamilton Kelly
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told the 180 people in attendance Alice Perry died in this church the victim of violence and perversion we are
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in a conflict with evil there is a battle going on but only love can win that battle if it were to turn us from
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love to hate from love to bitterness then evil would have triumph the Reverend described how Alice was now
00:38:23
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00:38:31
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00:39:25
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00:39:34
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00:39:42
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the grave marker was stolen this prompted Erie's that the killer was a Bismarck resident who'd followed Alice
00:47:00
to California with the intention of killing her and had then returned to take the grave marker has another morbid
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trophy the idea that Alice knew her killer wasn't without merit with some suspecting he was a scorned ex-boyfriend
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or an obsessed stalker the day before Alice's murder a colleague witnessed her in the waiting room of their law office
00:47:26
having a serious and intense conversation with a man in his early 20s the co-worker originally thought it was
00:47:34
Alice's husband but later saw Bruce parry at a memorial service and realized that he was not the man from the waiting
00:47:41
room Alice and the unknown man spoke for about 15 minutes and when she returned to work she seemed
00:47:49
to noticeably sad but didn't mention the encounter to anyone her visitor was described as approximately 5 foot 10
00:47:58
inches tall with an athletic build broad shoulders and short curly blond hair this description bore similarities to
00:48:08
the 7th unidentified person in the vicinity of the memorial church when Alice was inside praying the men in the
00:48:16
royal blue shirt Bruce confirmed he had never stopped by at Alice's workplace as she had
00:48:23
specifically asked him not to visit until she had settled into her new job she hadn't mentioned any strange
00:48:30
encounters though Bruce was certain that she would likely keep such an incident to herself
00:48:35
to avoid upsetting him he was unable to identify the man Alice was speaking with
00:48:44
in their book bloody Ivy 13 unsolved campus murder authors Chris and Harry bubonic
00:48:51
speculated that Alice's killer may not have planned to commit murder that night due to the opportunistic nature of her
00:48:58
slaying and the fact that he left behind vital evidence they proposed that the perpetrator might have been a vagrant
00:49:06
who was using the church as a refuge or a vandal who planned to desecrate the holy sanctuary quote perhaps he was
00:49:16
behaving suspiciously and Alice confronted him perhaps he was attracted to her and an argument began in any case
00:49:24
the confrontation had turned physical before Stephen Crawford entered to close the church here in Crawford approach the
00:49:33
attacker subdued Alice either by holding his hand over her mouth or by threatening her with the ice pick and
00:49:39
hid until Crawford left the church Dean of the Stanford Chapel Reverend Robert Hamilton Kelley had since denied making
00:49:53
statements that Alice's murder resembled a satanic ritual explaining that her injuries and the crime scene didn't have
00:50:01
the elements one would typically expect from such a slaughter nevertheless the theory had stuck and at one point
00:50:09
Sheriff lieutenant Robert Barr too told the media that police were exploring all
00:50:15
possibilities including that the murder was carried out for this purpose some reports claimed her body was posed with
00:50:24
her knees bent and ankles drawn together creating the points of a pentagram others said her jeans had been arranged
00:50:32
in a manner that resembled the symbol of the world's largest secret society the Freemasons investigators dismissed to
00:50:41
these assertions by clarifying that Alice's legs were left straight not formed into a diamond shape
00:50:48
like many incorrectly believed in Bismark word spread that during the year Bruce was living at Stanford on his
00:50:57
own Arliss and a friend had traveled to the neighboring town of Mandan North Dakota the pair aimed to convert members
00:51:06
of a local satanic cult to Christianity as part of their work with the young life organization the alleged cult the
00:51:15
processed Church of the final judgment was a religious group associated with Scientology and Satanism and its members
00:51:22
were rumored to carry out rituals in parks and caves throughout Bismarck one local recalled people visiting the town
00:51:31
wearing priests robes with the red collars into necklaces with upside-down crosses detectives ruled out this theory
00:51:40
after it couldn't be confirmed that Alice had ever visited the process church group they publicly denounced the
00:51:48
satanic ritual angle with a spokesperson telling the press it's a typical if there is such a thing sexual
00:51:56
psychopathic slaying it has no cult-like overtones it just happened to occur in a
00:52:03
church Alice Perry's murder bore similarities to the unsolved murders of Leslie Perloff and Janet Taylor as all three
00:52:16
women were targeted in Stanford by a sexual psychopath furthermore witnesses had described seeing a blond-haired man
00:52:25
at both Leslie and Alice's crime scenes shortly before their murders yet there were also notable differences between
00:52:33
the attacks Alice was the only victim in which the killer employed the use of a weapon whereas Leslie and Janet had been
00:52:41
strangled with their own clothing or the perpetrators hands additionally Leslie and Janet were considered a low-risk
00:52:49
attacks as both were confronted in isolated areas with few people about Alice's attack was the opposite it was
00:52:58
incredibly high-risk given the amount of foot traffic around the main quad on the
00:53:03
public holiday including a watchman whose role was to intermittently check the Memorial Church throughout the night
00:53:10
despite this many Stanford residents were unable to shake the feeling that a serial killer was active in the area in
00:53:21
the early hours of August 16 1975 10 months after Alice Perry's murder Utah Highway Patrol officer Bob Hayward was
00:53:31
scouting the Salt Lake City community of Granger when he spotted a distinct cream-colored 1968 Volkswagen Beetle
00:53:39
cruising down a residential street with its lights off officer Haywood recognized the driver and ordered him to
00:53:47
stop but he fled the area at high speed after a short chase the car was brought to a halt and a search of the vehicle
00:53:55
uncovered a ski mask a second mask fashioned from pantyhose a crowbar handcuffs trash bags a coil of rope an
00:54:04
ice pick and other items assumed to be burglary tools the driver 28 year old Ted Bundy was a suspect in a long list
00:54:15
of unsolved homicides of women and young girls that had taken place across several states throughout the preceding
00:54:21
years Bundy one of America's most infamous and prolific sexual sadist serial killers confessed to 30 homicides
00:54:31
though many believe the true number of his victims was higher investigators for the unsolved murders of Leslie pearl of
00:54:39
Janet Taylor and Dallas Perry suspected Bundy may have been responsible for those deaths as he had studied at
00:54:46
Stanford University in the late 60s and there was familiar with the area several
00:54:53
of his crimes were committed on college campuses and he had visited California's
00:54:57
Bay Area on multiple occasions between 1973 and 74 the time of the stanford murders Bundy was interviewed in
00:55:08
relation to Arliss Perry's murder but had an airtight alibi in the form of a credit-card statement proving he was
00:55:14
filling up his Volkswagen had a gas station out of town at the time he was also questioned about Leslie Perloff and
00:55:22
Janet Taylor but was ultimately ruled out as a suspect in those crimes - four years after Alice's murder in 1978
00:55:33
police in her home state of North Dakota received a letter from Attica Correctional Facility in New York
00:55:40
according to the letter the processed Church of the final judgment hired a hit man to kill Arliss Perry after she had
00:55:48
tried to convert them to Christianity the author of the letter was identified as 24-year old David Berkowitz also
00:55:56
known as Son of Sam he was serving six life sentences for the murders of six women in New York between 1976
00:56:05
since 77 on October 23 1979 Berkowitz sent a policeman from North Dakota a book about Satanism in which he had
00:56:15
written Alice Perry hunted stalked and slain followed to California Stanford University two sergeants from the Santa
00:56:27
Clara County Sheriff's Department traveled to New York to interview Berkowitz he denied any involvement with
00:56:34
Alice's murder explaining that the only information he had about the crime came from newspaper articles that had been
00:56:41
sent to him when asked if he had spoken to the person who had murdered Alice Berkowitz became visibly nervous
00:56:49
and avoided answering the question after speaking with the police for 30 minutes
00:56:55
he expressed concerns that other inmates would think he was working as an informant and to terminated the
00:57:01
interview the sergeants concluded Berkowitz had nothing of value to offer their investigation and disregarded his
00:57:09
claims other notorious serial killers were investigated as possible suspects in the Stanford murders including co-ed
00:57:19
killer ed Kemper who was active in the Santa Cruz region 40 miles south of Stanford up until he surrender in April
00:57:27
1973 Kemper's modus operandi involved picking up hitchhiking female college students and taking them to isolated
00:57:37
areas where he would kill them sometimes via strangulation although the date of his arrest ruled him out for
00:57:45
Janet and Alice's murders he was free at the time Leslie was killed two of these
00:57:51
victims eighteen year olds Mary parsh and Anita lacasa killed in May 1972 had accepted a ride from Kemper under the
00:58:00
pretext of being taken to Stanford University Kempe who was infamously forthright and
00:58:07
meticulous when speaking of his crimes to authorities after his capture did not confess to killing Leslie
00:58:19
in 1987 13 years after Alice's murder a controversial book by investigative reporter Maury Terry titled the ultimate
00:58:29
evil put the case back under the spotlight Terry explored multiple theories and criticized investigators but not further
00:58:37
exploring the possible link between Alice and the processed Church he proposed the she had been followed from
00:58:45
Bismarck to California by a church member and he was the men arguing with her at her workplace the day before her
00:58:51
death Terry honed in on Son of Sam killer David Berkowitz as likely knowing pertinent information relating to the
00:59:00
crime according to Terry on the night of her murder Alice may have intentionally
00:59:07
picked a fight with Bruce as it gave her an excuse to request the time alone to pray instead she had planned to meet the
00:59:15
mystery man from her past in the church even though authorities had dismissed rumors that Alice's killing was satanic
00:59:23
in nature Terry remained convinced that had been a ritualistic slain he pinpointed a series
00:59:30
of caves behind Bismarck's University of Mary as a favorite ritual site for the process Church prompting locals to
00:59:38
search the location for evidence due to the influx of visitors the caves had to be filled in which in turn caused the
00:59:47
panic as people assumed it confirmed that a satanic cult was operating nearby the book sent shockwaves throughout the
00:59:57
Bismark community local bookstores quickly sold out of their copies and the library amassed a staggering waitlist
01:00:05
leading it to decrease its usual checkout time from four weeks to two weeks just to keep up with the demand in
01:00:12
the year after its release the number of people on the wait list stayed at about
01:00:17
50 in April of 1989 Maury Terry traveled to Bismarck to host the discussion about
01:00:25
his book the venue had to be changed at the last minute because the 1000 capacity auditorium sold out with Lions
01:00:34
circling around the block Reverend Don de Kock who had officiated Alice's funeral condemned to the book saying it
01:00:43
offered no new information but simply opened old wounds for her grieving family following his wife's murder Bruce Perry
01:00:54
took leave from Stanford University and spent the subsequent months visiting friends interstate who worked him to
01:01:01
return to his studies Bruce later told the Chicago Reader newspaper I had to get in control of what had happened
01:01:10
instead of having the event control me when anyone is traumatized they've got to make that transition away from being
01:01:18
a victim something had happened that was completely out of my control I had to get away from feeling that because
01:01:26
unpredictable uncontrollable things happen on might as well not do anything he returned to Stanford and resumed his
01:01:35
course but was overwhelmed by the sympathy he received he then transferred to Amherst College in Massachusetts and
01:01:44
studied in neuroscience eventually obtaining a degree in medicine in 1984 Bruce undertook a residency in
01:01:53
psychiatry at the prestigious Yale University where he studied the brain chemistry of War veterans with major
01:01:59
depression he accepted a fellowship in child and adolescent psychology at the University
01:02:06
of Chicago and became a renowned psychiatrist specializing in PTSD trauma and empathy publishing two books on the
01:02:15
matter he also remarried and had children in 1992 he reflected on the impact of Alice's murder to the Chicago Reader
01:02:26
quote I couldn't imagine anything worse to experience and aa story I could live through even this and to be happy I felt
01:02:37
older I felt free to be whatever I wanted to be I thought about the external trappings of our culture and
01:02:45
the things we value and don't value I found that many of the things I cared about doing well at were really pretty
01:02:53
empty I put more effort into my relationships because I knew that's what's really enduring
01:03:00
[Music] tests were carried out on the blood-stained shirt Bruce was wearing when police visited
01:03:07
him the morning of Alice's murder he claimed the blood was his own sourced from a nosebleed and two results
01:03:14
confirmed that didn't match Alice's blood type nor did his palm print match the one on the altar candle
01:03:22
in 2004 any lingering suspicions that Bruce was responsible for Alice's death were finally put to rest when he
01:03:30
submitted a DNA sample that proved conclusively he was not her killer in June 2016 an article published in the
01:03:46
New York Post reported that a 64 year old man named Bruce McCracken had come forward claiming he was in Stanford's
01:03:53
Memorial Church on the night Alice Perry was killed McCracken said he was walking past the
01:04:00
church around midnight when he heard strange flute music coming from inside indented to check it out on the lectern
01:04:09
he saw a young skinny white male whom he recognized as a member of Stanford's marching band the male was wearing a
01:04:18
light-colored afro style week and playing a large silver flute a young Caucasian woman was lying naked on the
01:04:27
altar with candles burning on either side of her looking upwards the flutist that didn't look happy to see McCracken
01:04:35
but the woman who looked very similar to Wallace turned her head towards him and
01:04:40
smiled thinking they were playing some kind of game McCracken left the church and didn't give it much thought
01:04:48
he later read about Alice Perry's murder but failed to realize that had occurred
01:04:53
the same night he interrupted the flute player and therefore never thought to report it to the police
01:05:00
decades later in 2011 while speaking to a retired police officer about strange things he had experienced while on the
01:05:08
beat Bruce remembered the incident at the Memorial Church he searched online for a picture of Stanford's marching
01:05:16
band from 1974 eventually finding a picture of the flutist quote I finally saw his face and his eyes those intense
01:05:27
eyes as soon as I saw the picture I knew it was him Bruce informed the Senate Clara County
01:05:36
Sheriff's Department and two detectives tracked down the flutist as he played a concert in Thousand Oaks California
01:05:43
the detectives posed as reporters and arranged to meet the man under the guise of wanting to interview him about his
01:05:51
career the musician mentioned the afro wig he had worn during his days in the Stanford marching band confirming he had
01:05:59
owned the hairpiece described by Bruce McCracken he soon became suspicious and entered the interview saying he would
01:06:08
never return to perform in California again a spokesperson for the Sena Clara Sheriff's Department maintained that the
01:06:17
musician was not being considered a suspect but would really eight he studies should DNA evidence come to life
01:06:25
when confronted by the New York Post the unnamed musician vehemently denied any involvement in Alice's murder quote I've
01:06:35
never been involved in anything criminal in my entire life I've been very lucky that way as forensic testing technology
01:06:47
advanced over the years items recovered from the Alice Perry crime scene were routinely reanalyzed by the County Crime
01:06:54
Lab in 2016 in a much-needed break through they located the DNA profile of an unknown male on the jeans Alice had
01:07:04
been wearing on the night of her death over the next two years police from the Santa Clara County Sheriff's Office
01:07:12
truck down and re interviewed everyone who is in the vicinity of Stanford's Memorial Church on the night of Sunday
01:07:18
October 12 1974 obtaining fingerprints and DNA samples from each they ruled them out one by one leaving
01:07:29
just one possible suspect remaining former Stanford night watchman Stephen Blake Crawford was now 72 years old and
01:07:40
in poor health he lived alone in San Jose approximately 25 miles from the University surviving on Social Security
01:07:49
and his leftover retirement funds he had remained a person of interest in the Arliss Perry investigation over the
01:07:57
years but he had passed the polygraph his palm print didn't match the one found on an altar candle used in her
01:08:04
attack and with no further evidence or motive to link him to the crime police had no grounds to make an arrest they
01:08:13
kept in contact with Crawford occasionally re-interviewing him but nothing ever surfaced that implicated
01:08:20
him Crawford had served in the US Air Force before working as a police officer for Stanford University's Department of
01:08:29
Public Safety in 1971 the department underwent a drastic reduction following the appointment of a new police chief
01:08:39
seventy-five percent of staff lost their jobs including Crawford he was forced to
01:08:45
hand in his gun and was reappointed as a Night Watch campus security guard a demotion that he bitterly complained
01:08:52
about he held the job until 1976 before leaving to work security elsewhere members of a square dance group Crawford
01:09:05
belonged to nicknamed him the prevaricator for his habit of lying and exaggerating stories in one instance he
01:09:13
told them his parents died in a car crash when he was young when in reality they died in separate incidents when he
01:09:20
was in his early 20s in 1992 Crawford's ex-wife reported him for forging a fake diploma using a blank
01:09:30
certificate he had stolen from Stanford University a search of his home revealed
01:09:36
he had also stolen up to 300 rare and valuable books from the University Library including leather-bound Latin
01:09:44
texts dating back to the 16th century as well as priceless photos and artifacts from the Department of Anthropology
01:09:52
among the items were a cane belonging to the university's founder Leland Stanford
01:09:58
and a skull when asked why he stole the items Crawford said he simply liked old things and took them in retaliation for
01:10:08
being considered a suspect in the Arliss Perry murder given the books were valued
01:10:15
in the hundreds of thousands of dollars the theft was considered a felony Crawford pleaded guilty to receiving
01:10:22
stolen property and was given a six-month suspended sentence with two years probation he began working as an
01:10:30
insurance adjuster and to lived a quiet somewhat reclusive life having no further run-ins with the law
01:10:41
on the morning of Thursday June 28 2018 detectives arrived at Crawford's ground-floor studio apartment to place
01:10:51
him under arrest and execute a search warrant in the hopes of gathering further evidence to link him to Arliss
01:10:58
Perry's murder when they knocked on the front door Crawford told them to wait a moment while he got dressed after
01:11:07
several minutes the detectives suspect that he was intentionally stalling and to let themselves in using a master key
01:11:13
they had obtained from the building's manager inside they confronted Crawford who was sitting on his bed holding a
01:11:22
handgun the detectives immediately retreated and moments later the sound of a gunshot rang out Crawford was found on
01:11:33
the floor with a self-inflicted gunshot wound to his head a search of his apartment uncovered the dust jacket from
01:11:43
a hardback copy of Maury Terry's 1987 book the ultimate evil in a folder with other papers on a computer table a foot
01:11:52
away from the bed was a hastily written suicide note dated two years earlier indicating he had expected this moment
01:12:00
for quite some time the note was difficult to read and made no mention of arles the coincided with a
01:12:09
time period when detectives recommenced interrogating Crawford in relation to her murder
01:12:15
it was suspected that he had targeted Alice to exact revenge against Stanford University following his demotion years
01:12:23
earlier Stephen Crawford's DNA was compared to the DNA of Arliss Perry's killer resulting in a match and the 44 year-old
01:12:34
unsolved case was finally closed that afternoon police hold a press conference to announce the news with Sheriff Laurie
01:12:45
Smith thanking the cold-case detectives for their unrelenting work in solving the decades-old crime and finally
01:12:52
obtaining for Alice's family standing alongside an enlarged photograph of Alice sheriff
01:13:00
Smith told the assembled reporters this is a case that eludes us no longer lead Detective Sergeant Richard Allen eise
01:13:10
kept this picture of Alice Perry with him as a constant reminder that her life into this case had value Alice's sister
01:13:21
Karen said she had no doubt the police would solve the case one day and wasn't surprised to learn that Crawford was the
01:13:28
killer as his story had changed throughout the years and he was a known liar Alice's father Marvin had passed
01:13:36
away three and a half months prior to the break through her mother Jean who was now 88 years old was heartbroken
01:13:45
that her husband had died without ever knowing who had killed their daughter as he had been desperate to find out the
01:13:51
truth taking comfort in her religious beliefs Jean said I know there is someone far greater that will punish
01:14:01
this person I don't have to do that Harless perry's cold case file had long been associated with the unsolved
01:14:13
murders of Leslie Perloff and Janet Taylor due to the similarities between crime scenes many suspected Leslie Janet
01:14:21
and Alice had fallen victim to the same killer though they were never formally linked Santa Clara County Sheriff Laurie
01:14:30
Smith initially stated that although investigators did not think Steven Crawford was connected to any other run
01:14:36
souls to local homicides they left the possibility open quote in homicides even cold cases we have a
01:14:45
warehouse of evidence we keep the evidence for life even when there's a conviction forensic evidence collected
01:14:55
from Leslie / loves crime scene was submitted for a analysis and - that - resulted in a key DNA discovery the
01:15:04
evidence was sourced from underneath Leslie's fingernails and was a mismatch for Steven Crawford ruling out the
01:15:11
possibility that Allison - Leslie's murders were carried out by the same perpetrator using similar methods that
01:15:19
helped identify the alleged the Golden State killer in April 2000 18 detectives sent the sample off to parabot Nano labs
01:15:27
a Virginia based medical lab that combines DNA testing with the genealogical databases to map an unknown
01:15:35
suspect to their relatives and ancestors they matched the DNA sample with members
01:15:42
belonging to the getchu family prompting investigators to search through the getchu family tree to identify someone
01:15:49
whose history aligns with the circumstances surrounding Leslie's murder in 1973 John Arthur Gary worked
01:15:59
as a medical technician in Stanford University's campus hospital in the heart transplant unit get rue had a
01:16:06
violent criminal history dating back to 1963 when his family was stationed in Germany for his father's work with the
01:16:14
United States military on the evening of June a 18 year old getchu encountered fifteen-year-old
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Margaret Williams the daughter of the army chaplain as she was leaving a church dance on base the following
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morning Margaret was found strangled and raped in a field behind the church getcher was
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identified as a suspect immediately and his arrest soon followed he admitted to the crime in court stating I raped her
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but it did not occur to me that I could have killed her I just wanted to knock her out he was
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convicted and sentenced to 10 years in prison yet because he was a foreigner and considered a juvenile under German
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law the court said that he could be released on parole after serving two years and returned to America by 1972
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Gertrude was living and working in Palo Alto as a security guard for California plant protection services his criminal
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past was a secret to those around him in 1975 two years after Leslie Perloff was
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murdered get rude targeted a 17 year old member of the scouts explorer troop in Palo Alto
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get you became involved in the group as a scout leader taking the children to dances and other events while acting as
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their guardian he had befriended he's the latest victim over a six-month period and on the night of January 19
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arrived at her home while their parents were not there after talking to her for about two hours
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getcher who pushed her under the couch and began assaulting her when she threatened to cry out for help he put
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his hand around her neck and squeezed threatening don't do that I have my hand at your throat and I could hurt you get
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you pleaded guilty to statutory rape and was sentenced to six months jail five of
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which were suspended he was ordered to pay a $200 fine and served his remaining 30 days in jail on weekends junket Roos
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DNA was obtained from items he discarded and it was compared to evidence recovered from the Leslie Perla of crime
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scene not only was there a match the subsequent DNA report stated the probability that a random unrelated
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individual could be included as a possible contributor to this deduced profile was approximately one in 65
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septillion this figure would be the number 65 followed by 24 zeroes on November 20 2018 the now 74 year-old
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grandfather carpenter and Scout leader was placed under arrest at his home in Hayward
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approximately 21 miles from Stanford and charged with the first-degree murder of
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Leslie pearl of over the past 45 years cold-case detectives had remained in touch with the Perloff family updating
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them on their efforts to find who has Lee's killer as the eldest of three children
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Leslie was regarded as her siblings protector she had once shared a bedroom with her sister Diane and the pair
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traded clothes secrets into laughter when she left for Stanford Diane had cried Leslie's brother Craig told the
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media I still miss Leslie she was a brilliant kind and a loving person Leslie's mother
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Florence had died four years earlier and never sought grief counseling as she felt the hole in her heart could never
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heal in November 2018 Diane received a call from a detective Sergeant informing her we got him she
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attended get Roos bail hearing that same month and pleaded to the court that he'd
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be denied bail Diane looked directly at getchu who steadfastly averted his gaze and told him the scarf tied around to
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Leslie's neck that day was mine Diane went on to explain how she could no longer walk alone in the woods wear a
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scarf or let anyone touch her neck quote I want you to know that murder does not
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just affect the deceased it changes many lives it takes many lives and impacts a
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family forever and while justice doesn't heal all wounds it is the least we can do the
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presiding judge agreed with Dianne and refused to get Rou bail instead ordering that he be hold in the
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Santa Clara County Jail to await trial while get Roo was in custody clothing belonging to Janet Taylor was also
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resubmitted for a more thorough forensic examination and two semen staining was discovered within its worn seam in the
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crotch of the green corduroy pants she was wearing at the time of her death the DNA profile obtained from the
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staining was found to have a 1 in 30 4,800 chance of coming from anyone but John katroo on May 16 2009 teen getchu
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was also charged with the Janet Taylor's murder in a statement Janet's family said Janet lived a life with enthusiasm
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and courage as a spunky fun-loving youngest of three children she added much laughter and joy to our family she
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loved animals and cherished her friends we have missed being able to have her in
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our lives Janet's future was bright that would have been wonderful to see what she
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would have done we can't ever know all that we missed but whatever she pursued Janet would
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have served others with passion and kindness we're grateful today for the diligent meticulous work of the law
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enforcement officers whose efforts have resulted in today's announcement they've
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done this difficult work with integrity and excellence and with compassion for our family Gertrude has pleaded not
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guilty to all charges and is currently awaiting trial he will be held to penalties in effect at the time of the
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murders with the maximum sentence for homicide in the early 70s being seven years to life given his age in the
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amount of time that has elapsed since the crimes court officials are prioritizing his cases he will first
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stand trial for Leslie purlins murder in September 2020 John katroo is also being
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investigated as a suspect in other run solved crimes Santa Clara County Sheriff Laurie Smith
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expects that the modern DNA techniques used to capture Steven Crawford and John katroo will help solve the 100-plus cold
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cases in the county dating back to 1946 quote because we have this technology we
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want to hit all of these cases while the suspects are still alive shortly after Arliss was murdered Bruce Perry spoke of
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his late wife to the Chicago Reader quote I had long periods of pain and sadness and of thinking how unfair it
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seemed I tried to think about what it was that would make a human being do this there was a lot of anger initially
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but I didn't know where to direct it since I didn't know what exactly had happened you sort of had to make
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something up to get angry at then I just quit doing that it was getting in the way of me being able to move on when I
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accepted the fact that death was a part of life it did not matter that much anymore what the person who killed her
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looked like or was like Bruce Perry is currently a senior fellow of the child trauma Academy in Houston Texas and an
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adjunct professor in psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Chicago's Feinberg School of Medicine he has
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worked as a consultant with the FBI on many high-profile cases involving traumatized children and has appeared on
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The Oprah Winfrey Show speaking about how adverse early experiences can lead to physical and mental challenges later
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in life he believes his ordeal helps him identify and empathize with these patients
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Arlis Perry was laid to rest at the sunset Memorial Gardens in her hometown of Bismarck on the day of her funeral
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Reverend Don de Kock told the gathering of 300 mourners somebody's going to say that Alice didn't have a chance to learn
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what life is all about on the contrary Alice knew exactly what life is all about that it is full of joy
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and full of sorrow of victory and trials and - that man is a mere breath he's dazed like a passing shadow
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