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Evidence from a smartphone leads to more questions in Delphi

July 27, 2019 / 01:07:31

This episode features journalist Tim Clark discussing the cold case of Abigail Williams and Liberty German, two teenage girls who went missing in Delphi, Indiana in February 2017. The episode covers the timeline of events leading up to their disappearance, the search efforts, and the subsequent discovery of their bodies.

The episode describes how Abigail and Liberty, both active eighth graders, spent time together before their disappearance. They were last seen hiking on the Monon High Bridge trail, where they took photos and shared moments on social media.

Listeners learn about the frantic search initiated by their families and local authorities, which escalated into a community-wide effort. The police press conferences reveal the shocking news of the girls' bodies being found and the investigation into their deaths being treated as a double homicide.

Key discussions include the emotional impact on the community, the release of suspect images, and the ongoing investigation that has led to numerous tips and public interest. The episode highlights the families' efforts to keep the girls' memories alive and seek justice.

Overall, the episode serves as a poignant reminder of the tragedy and the unresolved questions surrounding the case, while emphasizing the importance of community support in times of crisis.

TLDR

Tim Clark discusses the tragic case of Abigail Williams and Liberty German, two girls who went missing in Delphi, Indiana in 2017.

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please see the show notes for this episode on your app or on our website February 2017 presented a nun seasonably
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warm winter for the residents of del Fire a small Midwestern city in the American state of Indiana the season was
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typically marked with freezing cold weather with the snowy period beginning in early January that could last for
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several months local schools were required to schedule a set amount of days off in anticipation of the snowfall
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but the uncharacteristically high temperatures in Delphi that year meant the predetermined snow days had had gone
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unused as it was compulsory for administrators to close schools down for the accumulated time off regardless of
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the weather Delphi as students gained an extra long weekend to that month beginning on Thursday February 9 with
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classes set to resume on Tuesday the 14th on the second-to-last day of the short winter break thirteen-year-old
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Abigail Williams packed her belongings in preparation for a sleepover at the home of her best friend 14 year old
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Liberty German the two girls had established a close friendship from a young age and now attended eighth grade
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together at Delphi community middle school with a bond described as stronger than most the pair were inseparable
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they played alto sax together in the school band competed on the same volleyball team enter Liberty had
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recently convinced that a gal to join her on their school's softball team they both had a love for the outdoors
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and shared many other interests too including camping fishing riding all-terrain vehicles and hiking
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despite their numerous similarities Center mutual hobbies the girls had their own unique qualities abigail known
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by friends as Abby was the quieter of the two but was still very sociable an avid reader with a creative flair her
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mother Anna remarked that Abigail had more crafts than she knew what to do with and there wasn't a form of art that
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she hadn't tried she spent most of her time making an assortment of creations including rubber band bracelets and
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beaded jewelry which he often gifted to her friends she had also recently begun meeting tiny colorful hats for newborn
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babies at the local hospital Liberty better known as Libby was the Moriya going of the pair with the
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reputation for being a joker the honor roll student dreamed of becoming a science teacher and had already laid the
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foundation to achieve her goal by attending several classes at a local university an enthusiastic athlete
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Liberty also participated in many sports including volleyball soccer swimming and
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softball Liberty lived at the home of her grandparents Mike and Becky Pattie along with her older sister 17 year old
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Kelsey and to their father Derek she often baked batches of cookies for her family ensuring there were always some
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left over for her grandfather when he returned home from work on Sunday February 12 Abigail and to Liberty spent
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the afternoon in the Paddy's backyard practicing their swing in preparation for the upcoming softball season that
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night the pair emptied Abigail's craft box onto Liberty's bedroom floor and stayed up late painting pitches
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when they woke up the following morning of Monday February 13 Liberty's father Derek made the girls a pancake breakfast
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the warm weather had persisted in DeBerg a land of liberty decided to make the most of it by spending the afternoon
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hiking along one of their favorite walking tracks the moanin high bridge trail they both shared an interest in
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photography and aimed to capture some scenic nature shots along the secluded wooded track Liberty's sister Kelsey
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offered to drive the teens to their hiking destination and at 1:45 p.m. she dropped Abigail and a Liberty off at
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the large wooden sign that marked the beginning of the Monon hybrid trail [Music]
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[Music] in the early 1980s the development of a half mile track known as the fenders
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towpath trail paved the way for what would eventually become the Delphi historic trails ten miles of groomed
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hiking trails that stretch throughout the town the trails take visitors pass the various architectural landmarks with
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two miles winding through the town itself while the remainder curl through the wooded outskirts forming an
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important element of Delphi identity the trails provide a popular spot for campers fishermen trail bike riders and
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hikers boaters and kayakers also take to the waterways that line some of the paths the Monon high bridge trail is one
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of the longest trails in their network spanning over one and a half miles located on the eastern cusp of town near
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the Delphi cemetery its trailhead sits alongside a parking area at a dead-end driveway as 0.85 mile south easterly
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hike leads to an eight hundred and fifty three-foot long historical railroad trestle bridge that towers 63 feet above
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the shallow waters of Deer Creek it is being out of commission since 1987 with the train tracks and guardrails since
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removed so that just the wooden railroad planks remain despite its remote rural setting the Monon high bridge trail is
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frequently traversed by hikers dog walkers and tourists as the bridge also provides a picturesque backdrop for
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wedding photos and high school senior pitches it's not unusual to encounter other people visiting it at any time of
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year from the drop-off point at the trailhead Abigail Williams into Liberty Germans set out down the wired crushed
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stone path that led to the bridge framed by dry fallen leaves and tall thin trees stripped bare by the winter
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season the flat spacious path was easy to track making for a leisurely hike eventually the pair reached the Monon
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High Bridge where Liberty stopped for a moment to hold up her smartphone and take a photo of the old splintered of
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railroad overpass ahead wanting to share their adventure with her friends and family via social media
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Liberty uploaded the image to her account with picture messaging app snapchat the girls continued on with
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Liberty leading the way as Abigail followed close behind after walking roughly 90 feet Liberty turned around
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and took a second photo this time capturing Abigail in mid-step on the bridge the candid photo displayed the
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teenager in her billowy burgundy top blue jeans and black sneakers with her hands tucked into the pockets of the
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grey sweatshirt she had borrowed from liberty with her head slightly lowered she was positioned in the right
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foreground of the image with the bridge stretching behind her against the dense background of barren trees at 2:07 p.m.
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Liberty also posted this picture to her snapchat account less than one hour later Liberty's father Derick German was
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returning from an afternoon of running errands in the nearby city of Frankfurt and planned on picking the girls up from
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the Monon hybrid trail on his way home although they hadn't organized the specific meetings on the trail didn't
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take long to navigate and it was presumed - the girls would be finished by the time he arrived
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as he approached Derrick sent his daughter a text message to let her know he was on his way at 3:14 p.m. Derrick
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pulled up at the trailhead parking lot to find that neither of the girls were there he sent to Liberty several
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follow-up text messages but received no response and his calls went unanswered going straight through to her voicemail
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Derrick set off in search of the girls presuming he would intercept them along the trail having failed to cross paths
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with the girls by 3:30 p.m. Derrick considered the possibility that the girls had just wandered too far or
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lost track of time he contacted his mother to explain the situation and word quickly spread that
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the girls were missing as further attempts to establish contact with the teens were met with silence
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concerns began to shift to more serious scenarios including that the girls had fallen from the bridge or otherwise
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sustained a severe injury a search party was quickly established with the group on the lookout for Abigail who was far
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foot 4 with long blond hair and hazel eyes and to Liberty who was of similar height with shoulder-length blond hair
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and blue eyes she had left home wearing a tie-dyed t-shirt with fringing at the hem grey sweatpants and black Nike
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sneakers by 5:00 p.m. there was still no sign of either of the girls and as daylight was
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starting to fade the families decided it was time to report them as missing Delphi police reacted immediately and
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officers arrived at the trail within minutes soon joined by members of the Delphi fire department Carroll County
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Sheriff's Department the natural resources department and two local volunteers hundreds of people armed with
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flashlights scowl at the site while others marched the local streets looking for any sign of the missing girls
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at 6:30 p.m. volunteers visited a 40 acre property on Carroll County Road that backed onto Deer Creek which
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belonged to longtime Delphi resident 77 year old Ronald a Logan who would have lived on the property for over 50 years
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Logan was informed of the incident and granted the search party access to comb his massive property when night fell the
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search was formally postponed as the rugged surroundings were deemed far too dangerous to navigate in the dark but
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several members of the girls families remained too distraught to sleep and continued to looking throughout the
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night in a statement released to the community Carroll County Sheriff Tove lesson be maintained there was nothing
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to indicate that the girls were in imminent danger and stated the police had no reason to suspect foul play
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the search resumed at dawn the following morning of Tuesday February 14 members of the local community turned up in
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droves joined by concerned citizens from surrounding towns who wanted to lend a hand after seeing the social media posts
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circulating about the missing teens the hundreds of volunteers were divided into
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groups of ten to twelve with each equipped with maps and instructed to cover designated areas ranging from 20
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to 25 miles volunteers trekked through muddy fields and roadsides checking barns and
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adjacent plots of land for any indication the girls may have been there they looked for clothing discarded drink
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bottles or any other belongings the pair might have dropped back at police headquarters
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investigators said about scrutinizing CCTV footage pulled from local businesses and security cameras
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positioned too near the trails but failed to discover anything of note at 2:00 p.m. a press conference was called
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at Delphia City Hall with law enforcement present from dill fires local Police Department the Carroll
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County Sheriff's Department and the Indiana State Police officers revealed that at 12:15 p.m. search crews had
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found two bodies at the bottom of a hill in a wooded area of a privately owned property 50 feet north of the banks of
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Deer Creek the discovery was made one mile upstream from the Monon High Bridge an area characterized by rough sloped
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terrain only accessible on foot they refused to disclose the exact location the identities of the deceased or the
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cause of their death with Delphi Police Chief Steve Mullen simply stating based on the way the bodies were found foul
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play is suspected as to whether or not local residents should be concerned for their safety
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chief Mullen said he would leave it to the community to decide how they should react but advised them to avoid the
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Monon hybrid trail and to maintain awareness of their surroundings the following day Wednesday February 15
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police held a second press conference to confirm that the two bodies found were indeed to those the babba Gail Williams
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sent a Liberty German the pair had been located at the rear of the Carrol County
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Road property belonging to Ronald Logan roughly half a mile east of the Delphi cemetery police announced they were
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treating the case as a double homicide the first in Delphi in more than 20 years though they declined to comment on
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the cause of death crime-scene findings or whether the murders had been a random
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or targeted attack Indiana State Police Sergeant Kim Riley stated there is somebody out there who did this and two
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we're going to track them down police released two small pixelated images they believed could aid their investigation
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the pictures depicted a lone Caucasian male wearing a brown cap a scarf a hooded sweatshirt and a zipped up navy
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blue windbreaker he was walking along with his head tilted downwards and his left hand
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tucked into the front pocket of his baggy blue jeans the image had been captured on the Monon High Bridge at the
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time that Abigail and to Liberty were hiking in the area but the police refused to comment on who took the photo
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they didn't name the men in the photo as a suspect but stated they wish to speak
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with him regarding the investigation efforts to identify the unknown man were hindered by the fact the blurred photo
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was taken from a considerable distance and his face was obstructed by his posture and attire the image was widely
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circulated on social media resulting in hundreds of tips to police but none led to his identification nor did the man
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himself contact authorities that evening 700 people gathered at the Delphi United
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Methodist Church to attend a prayer vigil held for Abigail Liberty and their grieving families a low crime rate had
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once cemented the small towns communal sense of trust but near suspicions anxiety and panic were pervading dull
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fire local high school student Katie told a newspaper I just look at everyone I know now and wonder what if it was
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them there is only around three thousands of people here so there's an extremely good
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chance it is someone a lot of people know who did it the moon on Highbridge trail had long
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been considered a safe place to track but one of its developers Den McCain believed this sense of safety would
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change as a result of the murders stating I know people will be afraid now I just know that and for that
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I'm devastated two classes had resumed at Delphi community middle school but all after-school activities were
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canceled for the remainder of the week a therapy dog and two counselors were brought in to assist students struggling
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to cope with the loss of their classmates as school administrators implemented tougher restrictions to
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limit who was permitted to enter the campus and have contact with students the following night of Thursday February
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16 police executed a search warrant for a residential property on west bicycle bridge road a long rural road on the
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western outskirts of Delphi the male homeowner was interviewed his premises searched and some items seized the
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police left without placing anyone under arrest nevertheless the investigative spotlight
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caught the attention of the local community compelling some justice-seeking towns folk to flock to
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the address while others made threats against the man online in order to quell the harassment police publicly announced
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that the men had been cleared before warning the public to leave the investigation to law enforcement
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professionals on Saturday February 18 a fundraiser benefit riot held in support of Abigail and de Liberty's families saw
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an anticipated crowd of several hundred people grow to more than 3,000 cars and motorcycles packed to downtown
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Delphi with traffic pouring in from nearby towns and counties raffle draws and the
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bake sales also took place while bracelets were sold baring Abigail and to Liberty's names along with the
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message hashtag pray for dull fire at four pm thousands of mourners gathered at the Delphi Community High School
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gymnasium to pay their respects during a memorial service for the girls video footage of Abigail and the Liberty
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played on a screen inside and tables were covered in memorabilia paying homage to their short yet impactful
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lives at 8 p.m. the crowds grouped together outside to release dozens of golden lanterns into Dell fires night sky
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the next day of Sunday February 19 the Delphi United Methodist Church clergy invited the town's residents to come in
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to write their anxieties down on colorful post-it notes and stick them to two large crosses on display inside some
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notes featured a single word such as sympathy fear or disbelief while others contain two longer messages expressing
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the writers anger and grief that same morning separate funerals were held for Abigail Williams into Liberty German
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with traffic in downtown Delphi coming to a standstill as the processions rolled through 45 minutes apart on the
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day of the funerals police held another press conference in which they officially named the male who was
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photographed on Monon High Bridge as a suspect in Abigail and de Liberty's murders they refused to comment on the
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origin of the pitcher that explained that it's poor quality was due to it having been cropped from a larger image
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this update prompted a flood of tips but none that immediately identified the suspect leading police to believe he may
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have been a loner or a drifter who left their fire following the crime some witnesses reported seeing a hitchhiker
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passing through Delphi on the day of the murders via the four-lane Hoosier Heartland highway which connects the
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cities of Lafayette and Fort Wayne and to pastors directly by the Monon hybrid trail following these reports police
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appealed for information about any strangers seen walking out of town the day the girls went missing up until this
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point law enforcement had taken a cautious approach in their efforts to publicize the case and find the killer
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endeavoring to share crucial information without compromising the integrity of their investigation the public were kept
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in the dark about how Abigail Linda Liberty had been killed and what evidence if any had been obtained at the
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crime scene although the absence of information led to public speculation and rumors
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withholding these details was a strategic move by police to ensure that only the killer knew the specifics of
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the crime that way if a confession was ever obtained they could easily determine its legitimacy Wednesday
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February 22 marked nine days since Abigail and two Lebanese bodies were found crowds packed into the Delphi
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United Methodist Church in anticipation of a police press conference which promised to unveil additional details of
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the investigation Indiana State Police Sergeant Tony slogan began the conference by thanking the community and
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media for their patience and support despite having been kept in the dark stating this investigation is too
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important to make any mistakes and give out the wrong information the large group of investigators flanking
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sergeant Slocum provided an indication of the massive amount of local county state and federal resources dedicated to
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solving the case police provided two key revelations the first was that the blurred images released of the suspect
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crossing moanin high bridge had been obtained from Liberty German smartphone it was not established whether the
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police had recovered the device itself or if they had accessed its contents of via the cloud as she and Abigail crossed
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the bridge On February 13 Liberty had turned on her phone's video camera to film the man as he was
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following them although police did not reveal the full extent of the footage or how long it
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went for the second revelation was that Liberty had also managed to record audio
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of the suspects voice police played a segment of the audio for those present in which a man with a gruff
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authoritative tone could be heard saying down the hill you can tell you can tell
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you can tell according to investigators additional footage had been obtained from Liberty's
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mobile phone along with other undisclosed evidence but would remain classified sergeant Tony Slocum praised the Liberty
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for her quick thinking and courage quote Liberty German is a hero there's no doubt to have enough presence of mind to
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activate that video system on her cell phone to record what we believe is criminal behavior
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that's about to occur an extended version of the audio was played exclusively to Liberty and Abigail's
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families according to State Police the longer recording included the girls talking about quote stuff girls talk
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about but the pair also mentioned the men walking behind them what transpired between this interaction and the
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publicly released audio segment of the suspect making the demand down the hill remained undisclosed the community were
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urged to report anyone they knew who had abruptly missed work or canceled plans on February 13 or had changed their
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appearance behavior travel plans sleep patterns or substance use in the days following the murders in addition to
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studying the suspects clothing investigators encouraged the public to consider his posture and mannerisms such
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as the way his hand was placed in his pants pocket as these minor habits may appear familiar to those
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you knew him police reiterated that no detail was too small and implored citizens to name all possible persons of
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interest even if they believed that individual was incapable of committing such crimes a $41,000 award was launched
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for information leading to an arrest with FBI Special Agent Greg Messer firmly stating he was confident that the
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case will be solved Indiana State Police Superintendent Douglas Carter said we must keep our resolve for Libby and
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Abbie for this community and frankly to ensure the good Trump's evil he ended the conference with a message to the
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perpetrator warning if you are watching we'll find you by March detectives from two dozen agencies were diligently
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making their way through nearly 8,000 tips provided via the cases phone hotline and email account in an effort
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to better support the large number of officers actively working on the case the investigation headquarters were
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relocated from the Delphi Municipal Building to the REMC building in downtown Carroll County messages of
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support were hung up inside to motivate detectives with one reading when you feel like quitting think about why you
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started a framed photograph of Abigail and to Liberty featured the statement some people come into our lives and
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quickly go some stay for a while leave footprints on our hearts and we are never ever the same a nationwide
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campaign saw 6000 electronic billboards crop up across 48 states featuring photographs of Abigail and the Liberty
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alongside the image of their suspected killer with a call to action from the FBI meanwhile the disturbing audio
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clip of the suspects voice was broadcast extensively over national radio stations
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the notoriety of the unsolved case coupled with its many unanswered questions provoked rampant rumors and
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speculation among citizens Lu's who used social media to wrongfully accused men across the country of being the unknown
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suspect this behavior prompted police to issue a warning that individuals who made such accusations were participating
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in defamation and opening themselves up to a potential lawsuit others spread online fear but theorizing that the
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murders were the work of a serial killer and attempted to establish connections to other unsolved crimes or recent
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deaths in Indiana police asserted the murders did not share any link to other known homicides and to request that
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members of the public to avoid buying into any news that wasn't official information provided by law enforcement
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agencies the Delphi community remained too vigilant with many believing the suspect who lived amongst them local
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women and children signed up for self-defense classes to better protect themselves while the task force was
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established to field recommendations from the public as the health safety could be improved on Dell fires historic
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trail system Abigail and de Liberty's families were inundated with ongoing support with businesses and
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organizations holding fundraisers to provide them with financial assistance and to increase the amount of the reward
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pool a sign placed on the door of one participating restaurant Delphi Peter King read in our community when bad
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happens we been together [Music] twenty-four days after his granddaughter's murder Mike paddy
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appeared at the Carroll County Courthouse in Del Fire to speak publicly about the case
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for the first time supported by his wife Mike delivered a statement on behalf of
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Liberty and Abigail's families which read this horrible crime has thrown a hole in our families that will never
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heal it's the small things that seem to hurt the most it's just natural to holler for them to come to dinner or in
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the morning to get up and get ready for school then expect them to come through the door after school the silence when
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we don't hear their voice Mike explained that there was a running joke within their household that whenever Liberty
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was asked to do something her response would be in a minute he implored the public to follow his granddaughter's
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sentiment in catching her killer stating I believe if she were able to speak she
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would ask people to please give her the one-minute she always asked for to really study the picture of the suspect
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and to listen to the audio clip Mike candidly defined the unshakeable bond between Abigail and Liberty quote both
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the girls are heroes they stuck together I don't know exactly what happened out there that day but I imagine there was
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probably an opportunity for one or both to separate and try to make a break in different ways but those girls loved
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each other they were good friends neither one of them left each other's side following Mike Patti's emotional
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plea tips to police increased to hundred percent with the total number provided now exceeding 11,000
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despite the number of tips and hundreds of subsequent interviews the lack of major breakthroughs led to several
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police departments scaling back their involvement in the investigation pledging to return when their resources
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were required Indiana State Police Sergeant John P Rhine explained this is emotional for all of us I can tell you
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that it's not easy and a lot of people are putting a lot of work into this we're hoping that the tips there and
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we're going to find it on Saturday March 1815 law enforcement officers executed a
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search warrant at the Carroll County Road property where Abigail Linton Liberty's bodies were found a little
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over a month earlier at the time the search warrant was carried out the landowner 77 year-old Ronald Logan had
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been in custody for a week after admitting to violating probation for an unrelated drunk driving conviction from
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2014 court mandated conditions forbade Logan from operating a vehicle and to when required to provide an alibi for
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the key date of February 13 2017 he admitted to driving two miles south to the Carroll County waste transfer
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station to discard some garbage he had fully cooperated with search efforts allowing volunteers and police to
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inspect his property for the missing teens later describing the grim outcome as Locke being hit with a bolt of
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lightning two weeks later he further violated the terms of his probation when he was spotted drinking a beer at a
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pizza restaurant and was placed into custody the inspection of Ronald O Logan's home
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was just one of approximately a dozen search warrants that had been executed so far in the investigation detectives
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ultimately ruled a legend out as a suspect in the murders that he nevertheless found himself under the
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harsh scrutiny of internet sleuths whose efforts to link him to the murders made
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a profound impact on his reputation as he awaited trial for his probation violations Logan had to be transferred
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to a different County Jail he fears for his safety his attorney issued a press release that
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read I have known Ronald Logan for several years and have represented him in unrelated legal matters stated simply
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he had no involvement in this heinous crime I would like to caution the public to
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avoid jumping to conclusions before law enforcement has completed the ongoing investigation Logan was subsequently
00:37:24
sentenced to three and a half years in prison for being a habitual traffic offender but his sentence was later
00:37:30
reduced to home detention four and a half months after the murders Abigail's mother Anna Williams posted a video
00:37:42
tribute to her daughter online featuring photos of her from infancy through childhood with the caption tomorrow June
00:37:51
23rd 2017 Abigail Joyce Williams would be turning 14 it is still unbelievable to me that I won't be making a cake and
00:38:02
planning her party not this year not next year please remember her tomorrow and every day to honor raba gales
00:38:16
birthday family and friends gathered at the Delphi United Methodist Church to release dozens of colorful lanterns into
00:38:24
the sky after five months of dedicated investigation with no arrests tips from the public had slowly dwindled to less
00:38:34
than 10 per day on Monday July 17 in an effort to reignite the case police released the composite sketch of the
00:38:44
suspected killer the sketch had been created using descriptions provided by witnesses who traversed on or near the
00:38:52
Monon hybrid trail on the day of the murders the sketch had taken months to construct due to the gradual pace at
00:39:00
which these witnesses came forward coupled with the time it took for investigators to verify and collate
00:39:07
details between their statements the male suspect was described as Caucasian between 5 foot 6 and 5 foot 10 inches
00:39:16
tall weighing 180 to 220 pounds with reddish brown hair and an unknown eye color the sketch depicted him as
00:39:27
middle-aged with a square face short hair small wide-set eyes and a large nose with a neatly trimmed go t in the
00:39:38
drawing he wore a flat cap but investigators established this detail might not be accurate as multiple
00:39:45
witnesses were unable to agree on it they advised the sketch should only be viewed as a guide and not as a 100%
00:39:54
accurate representation of the suspect Indiana State Police Sergeant Kim Riley stated we're going to get to the bottom
00:40:04
of this sooner or later if the composite sketch helps us get there sooner that's what we're hoping
00:40:10
for following the release of the sketch investigators were inundated with information from the public with 1,000
00:40:20
tips coming through in the first 24 hours alone the new inquiries led to over 20 arrests
00:40:28
for unrelated crimes including a decade-long unsolved murder case but none that pertained to Abigail into
00:40:35
Liberty the sketch also fueled internet sleuths as users began sharing the image
00:40:43
alongside photos or mug shots of men they believed matched its description police issued yet another plea in an
00:40:51
effort to curtail the speculation explaining that unfounded rumors and gossip offered no value in their
00:40:58
investigation and only served to waste everyone's time as the six-month anniversary of Abigail and Deliver Dee's
00:41:08
deaths drew near the case was starting to languish the 6000 electronic billboards that at once broadcast the
00:41:17
suspects image across the country were no longer active and although the total number of tips from the public had
00:41:24
reached 24,000 the team of investigators actively working on the case through endured regardless Carroll County
00:41:34
Sheriff Tobler Zumbi remained optimistic that the killer would be caught telling
00:41:39
a local news reporter I still operate on the theory that good outweighs evil when
00:41:48
Liberty's grandparents Mike and Becky patty met some Indiana residents who had never heard of the case or seen the
00:41:55
suspects image before they decided to front their own awareness campaign they said to work distributing wanted posters
00:42:03
depicting the suspect and too soon thousands were on display all over the country
00:42:09
Becky patty told Indiana newspaper journal and courier we are asking everyone all over the United States to
00:42:18
help us we want to cover the entire US with this picture so he cannot go into a town where there is not a flier staring
00:42:27
him in the face her husband Mike added police are not giving up and to neither away I will spend every day of my life
00:42:37
trying to catch this guy I still believe someone out there knows something on Monday September 25 2017
00:42:50
roughly 1,000 miles west of Delphi in the state of Colorado 31 year-old Daniel Nations and his wife Caitlin were pulled
00:43:00
over by police the red Chevrolet prism they were driving matched descriptions of a vehicle that had been involved in a
00:43:09
recent incident according to witnesses a couple in a red car had been threatening
00:43:15
passers-by with a hatchet along a trail near the Colorado town of Monument Nations denied being involved but a
00:43:24
subsequent search of his car yielded a hatchet in the trunk along with a 22 caliber semi-automatic rifle officers
00:43:34
ran Daniel nations name through the police database and discovered he had a criminal history spanning a decade which
00:43:41
included convictions for public indecency driving violations and domestic battery in the presence of a
00:43:48
child as a convicted felon he was prohibited from owning a firearm and police took him into custody
00:43:58
Daniel nation's arrest caught the attention of internet sleuth who speculated whether he could also be
00:44:04
responsible for the murder of local cyclist Tim Watkins who had been shot and killed on Monument trail ten days
00:44:12
earlier on September 15 they also noticed that nations bore a resemblance to the composite sketch of the
00:44:20
unidentified suspect wanted in the double homicide of Abigail Williams and a liberty German like the sketch nations
00:44:28
had a goatee short hair and similar facial features including a thin mouth broad nose and a wide-set eyes
00:44:38
this likeness combined with his violent criminal record and the fact he had been
00:44:44
living in Indiana at the time of Abigail and Liberty's murders led many to cast the suspicious eye towards Daniel
00:44:52
Nations on Thursday September 28 investigators from Indiana flew to Colorado to interview nations announcing
00:45:03
he was the first named person of interest in the case but the breakthrough many were hoping
00:45:09
for never came as he was soon ruled out as a suspect in November the same year 53 year old
00:45:18
former pastor Thomas Bruce was arrested after sexually assaulting two women and murdering a third in a Catholic supply
00:45:26
store in Baldwin Missouri like the suspect being sought for Abigail into Liberty's murders Bruce was between five
00:45:35
foot seven and five foot nine inches tall and wore a flat cap and a navy blue jacket during the bore when attack
00:45:43
investigators looked into the possible connection but it led to another dead end
00:45:50
similarly 46 year-old sex offender Charles Eldridge was also compared to the sketch of Abigail and Liberty
00:45:58
suspected killer after being arrested in Union City Indiana on charges of child molestation and solicitation but he too
00:46:08
was promptly ruled out of the investigation as Indiana State Police continue to review and exclude persons
00:46:17
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00:46:23
unsubstantiated theories or naming hypothetical suspects explaining quote by doing so you take away from the
00:46:33
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one-year anniversary of Abigail and to Liberty's murders at the entrance point of the Monon hybrid trail flowers were
00:50:36
placed at the site as Indiana State Police Superintendent Douglas Carter fronted attending media praising
00:50:43
citizens across the city state into country for the support they had provided over the past year saying it
00:50:50
showed the very best in humanity in the worst of times since the investigation had commenced thirty thousand tips had
00:51:00
been passed on to detectives who worked to exhaust all leads in their cue if they failed to find the answer their
00:51:08
plan was to start all over again Superintendent Carter said our world is completely out of balance and we cannot
00:51:18
allow evil to prevail I refused to accept evil as a standard-bearer in American society not here these two
00:51:28
young girls were everybody's daughters he went on to explain that this was the first case where his department had both
00:51:37
an image and a voice recording of the unknown killer before claiming I believe we're one piece of the puzzle away from
00:51:46
figuring out who this individual is that evening a candlelit vigil was held in Memorial of the slain teens with
00:51:56
Abigail's mother Anna stating I know people are frustrated nobody ever believed it would take this long and it
00:52:05
has and we don't understand why we're not happy about it it would be nice but this part to be
00:52:13
over but it's not yet and we will wait as long as it takes two months later in May 2000 18 Ana traveled to Nashville
00:52:26
Tennessee with Liberty's grandparents Mike and Becky to attend the true-crime Convention crying :
00:52:32
the trio spent the weekend speaking with the thousands of attendees and made an onstage appearance to discuss the case
00:52:40
alongside Indiana State Police Sergeant Jerry Holman various matters that at surfaced over the course of the
00:52:48
investigation were raised including the prevalence of internet sleuthing although acknowledging these people
00:52:56
mostly meant well the group spoke of having been accosted by strangers intent on divulging their wild theories and of
00:53:04
experiencing the torment of social media accusations firsthand when police initially released the sketch of the
00:53:13
suspect online trolls claimed it looked like Mike Pattie and accused him of being his granddaughter's killer Mike
00:53:22
had a proven alibi for the time of the murders but it didn't stop the hateful messages or allegations leveled against
00:53:29
him an experience he described as heartbreaking the panel also discussed the Internet's habit of latching on to
00:53:38
suspects who had already been cleared by investigators stating such behavior gave
00:53:43
the false impression that the case was solved and harmed at law reinforcements ability to find the real perpetrator
00:53:51
Becki encouraged the audience to join a Facebook page created by the girls families titled brainstorming Farabi and
00:53:59
Libby which instead of discussing the murders provided a space to come up with ideas to assist the progression of the
00:54:06
investigation and to bring attention to the case sergeant Gerry Holman would neither confirm nor deny the existence
00:54:15
of DNA evidence but remarked in a crime like this very rarely do we not come up with DNA he made it clear that despite
00:54:27
police keeping details of the murders close to their chest it was still a very active and high-priority investigation
00:54:35
like Abigail into Liberty's families they were unwilling to give up and mark the crime as a cold case as to what
00:54:44
motivated the families to carry on mike patty explained quote the anger of the fact that Liberty's gone that somebody's
00:54:54
taken our girls from us that's what drives me I have to find this guy I'll do whatever it takes
00:55:03
go to whatever place I have to go to I'm not going to stop until we catch this guy or I've exhausted every effort I
00:55:12
humanly possibly can we owe it to our girls our community our state our nation somebody out there knows this guy
00:55:27
by 2019 the second anniversary of the case came and went with no major breakthroughs two months later on Monday
00:55:36
April 22 superintendent Douglas Carter fronted a packed press conference delivering an emotional address to the
00:55:44
crowd quote I've got to say to the Delphi community how grateful I am you inspire people and you don't even
00:55:54
understand why you did everything you could to support us but most importantly you surrounded the family of these two
00:56:02
little girls I will never forget it he announced that police were now seeking the public's help to identify any
00:56:13
vehicles witnessed in the parking lot of the former Department of Child Protective Services headquarters on 6
00:56:20
931 West 300 North in L fire between noon and 5:00 p.m. on Monday February 13 2017 the time Abigail and her Liberty
00:56:32
were hiking the Monon hybrid trail superintendent Carter expressed the opinion of police that the unidentified
00:56:41
suspect either currently or previously lived or worked in Delphi or visited the area on a regular basis in addition he
00:56:52
was likely aged between 18 and 40 years old but may appear younger than his true
00:56:58
age he then addressed the killer directly stating we believe you are hiding in plain sight for more than two
00:57:10
years you never thought we would shift ears to a different investigative strategy but we have we likely have
00:57:18
interviewed you or someone close to you we know that this is about power to you and you want to know what we know and
00:57:27
one day you will a question to you what will those closest to you think when they find out
00:57:36
that you brutally murdered two little girls two children only a coward would do such a thing we are confident that
00:57:46
you have told someone what you have done or at the very least they know because how different you are since the murders
00:57:54
I believe you have just a little bit of conscience left following this statement
00:58:03
police unveiled a new composite sketch of the prime suspect which looked significantly different to the original
00:58:11
it depicted a much younger clean-shaven Caucasian man with narrow facial features and short neat wavy hair unlike
00:58:22
the original sketch which was reportedly generated by an assortment of eyewitness
00:58:27
descriptions the new sketch was based on the person filmed by Liberty German it was accompanied by the release of a
00:58:35
silent two-second video excerpt of the footage showing the suspect in motion as he walked along the bridge with his head
00:58:43
down and hands in his pockets an updated audio clip of him speaking was also released in the extended audio file he
00:58:53
can be heard saying the word a guys at the outset of the previously released - snippet down the hill some members of
00:59:15
defiers community were rattled by the possibility the murderer may be among them others were not as surprised
00:59:23
having long concluded the killer must have some level of familiarity with the area as the Monon high bridge was not a
00:59:31
location an outsider could easily stumble across as with the release of the first sketch
00:59:38
the second also led to an influx of amateur sleuthing on Tuesday April 30 the Carroll County Sheriff's Office
00:59:46
posted a message on their Facebook page which read please stop posting site-by-site pictures of people you
00:59:55
think did this you are ruining innocent people's lives before posting a side-by-side imagine that is your son
01:00:04
brother or father by the end of May 2019 police had received four thousand two new tips with superintendent Douglas
01:00:15
Carter telling ABC news reporters that they needed just one final piece of information to solve the case and were
01:00:24
quote one tip away from success he believed there was someone acquainted with the killer or who knew a crucial
01:00:34
detail but was too afraid to come forward in the two-and-a-half years since Abigail Williams into Liberty
01:00:44
German were murdered the reward for information that leads to an arrest has increased to two hundred and forty
01:00:51
thousand dollars the loss continues to impact the Delphi community with small things serving as a constant reminder of
01:01:00
the tragedy posters of the two best friends are still displayed in the windows of local businesses who vow to
01:01:08
keep them there until the suspect is apprehended in response to a request from the teens family's porch lights
01:01:17
throughout town now glisten orange and the lampposts that bordered the Carroll County Courthouse Square are still tied
01:01:24
with ribbons in the girls favorite colors teal and purple to remind the townspeople that justice is yet to be
01:01:32
served when Abigail and de Liberty's families first started receiving donations from
01:01:39
supporters around the country they considered using the money to purchase new equipment for the softball field
01:01:45
where the girls had played together but as the funds steadily increased the families set their sights higher and by
01:01:54
mid 2019 construction had begun on the Abbey and to Libby Memorial Park an outdoor recreation area for Delphi
01:02:03
residents to appreciate nature are in sport for generations to come built on a conspicuous 21 acre lot at
01:02:12
the southeast corner of the Hoosier Heartland highway and Indiana State Road to 1/8 upon its completion
01:02:20
Diaby and the Libya Memorial Park will incorporate three softball fields an amphitheater two playgrounds and a
01:02:28
walking trail in preparation for construction Liberty's grandfather Mike paddy used a backhoe to begin clearing
01:02:36
the land himself telling a local newspaper it will be a tribute to those girls long long after our God I'm not
01:02:47
resting until that happens in addition to assisting with the memorial parks development Anna Williams has taken up a
01:02:57
cause that was close to her daughter's heart now the girl had been passionate about helping those less fortunate and
01:03:04
one of her favorite projects was putting together care packages for children in need she would fill shoeboxes with
01:03:13
school supplies and personal hygiene products then sent them to charities that worked with disadvantaged overseas
01:03:20
communities Anna has since created Abbey's angels to carry on her daughter's tradition each year in the
01:03:30
lead-up to Christmas she bands together with students from Delphi community middle school and other
01:03:35
members of the community to organize parcels to sent to charities in Abigail's name and I told a reporter
01:03:44
that she feels her daughter's presence with her as she so quote this was something that was
01:03:51
really important to Abby she loved this project it was something we looked forward to doing together and I'm glad
01:03:59
that we're still doing it in her honor Liberty's older sister Kelsey German does anything to keep her sisters story
01:04:09
in the public consciousness speaking candidly to reporters and podcasters often while making appearances the true
01:04:17
crime conventions and campaigning via her Twitter account at Liberty gee underscore sister a tattoo of Liberty's
01:04:27
name etched onto her back pays tribute to her younger sister and is accompanied by the words I can't see you but I can
01:04:36
feel you Liberty's brave decision to record the suspect on her smartphone has since helped others facing their own
01:04:45
threats during the family's 2018 crime con appearance an audience member informed the panel that his niece was
01:04:54
attacked in a park and because she was aware of Liberty Germans actions had the foresight to record evidence on her
01:05:01
phone which ultimately led to the capture and prosecution of her perpetrator Liberty's grandparents run
01:05:11
an official news information website titled Abby and to Libby org where you can find up-to-date
01:05:18
credible information on the case anyone with information regarding the unsolved murders of Abigail Williams
01:05:26
into Liberty German in Delphi Indiana on Monday February 13 2017 is encouraged to
01:05:34
send an email to the Carroll County Sheriff's Department using Abby and Libby tip at CAC oh Sh
01:05:44
RF calm or to call the FBI phone tip line on eight double four four five nine five seven eighty-six an inscription on
01:05:58
Liberty's gravestone reads the Lord took you when a February day to a wonderful place so far away not a day goes by we
01:06:11
don't cry for you although we know you would not want us to our hearts will heal our thoughts will clear but in our
01:06:22
hearts we'll keep you near for God has welcomed you with open arms with his love and
01:06:29
without any more harm will keep your memories in our minds but happiness without you is awful hard to find you
01:06:42
will always be a blessing no one can replace our love for you but living without you is the hardest thing we do
01:06:52
we'll wipe our tears for your in a better place and to keep you our memories of you that no one can erase
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Episode Highlights

  • The Arrest After 20 Years
    After two decades, the police announced an arrest in a notorious cold case.
    “They'd been waiting for more than 20 years.”
    @ 00m 51s
    July 27, 2019
  • Community Vigil for the Victims
    A prayer vigil for Abigail and Liberty drew 700 attendees, showcasing community grief.
    “I just look at everyone I know now and wonder what if it was them.”
    @ 18m 19s
    July 27, 2019
  • A Devastated Community
    The murders shook the small town of Delphi, changing its sense of safety forever.
    “I know people will be afraid now, I just know that and for that I'm devastated.”
    @ 19m 10s
    July 27, 2019
  • Community Support for Victims' Families
    Businesses and organizations held fundraisers to support the families of Abigail and Liberty.
    “In our community, when bad happens, we band together.”
    @ 32m 17s
    July 27, 2019
  • Mike Patti's Emotional Plea
    Mike Patti spoke publicly about the impact of the crime, urging the public to help.
    “This horrible crime has thrown a hole in our families that will never heal.”
    @ 32m 45s
    July 27, 2019
  • Composite Sketch Released
    Police released a composite sketch of the suspected killer to reignite public interest.
    “We're going to get to the bottom of this sooner or later.”
    @ 40m 00s
    July 27, 2019
  • Community Vigil for Abigail and Liberty
    A candlelit vigil was held in memory of the slain teens, showcasing community support.
    “I know people are frustrated. Nobody ever believed it would take this long.”
    @ 51m 59s
    July 27, 2019
  • New Sketch of Suspect Released
    Police unveiled a new composite sketch of the prime suspect, significantly different from the original.
    “We believe you are hiding in plain sight for more than two years.”
    @ 57m 02s
    July 27, 2019
  • Abbey and Libby Memorial Park
    Construction began on a memorial park to honor the girls, featuring recreational facilities for the community.
    “It will be a tribute to those girls long after our God.”
    @ 01h 02m 43s
    July 27, 2019

Episode Quotes

  • They'd been waiting for more than 20 years.
    Evidence from a smartphone leads to more questions in Delphi
  • I just look at everyone I know now and wonder what if it was them.
    Evidence from a smartphone leads to more questions in Delphi
  • Liberty German is a hero, there's no doubt.
    Evidence from a smartphone leads to more questions in Delphi
  • I still believe someone out there knows something.
    Evidence from a smartphone leads to more questions in Delphi
  • By doing so, you take away from the investigation.
    Evidence from a smartphone leads to more questions in Delphi
  • This was something that was really important to Abby. She loved this project.
    Evidence from a smartphone leads to more questions in Delphi

Key Moments

  • Community Vigil18:19
  • Changed Safety19:10
  • Community Vigilance31:35
  • Emotional Plea34:12
  • Public Support38:31
  • Warning Against Speculation46:30
  • Determination54:51
  • Memorial Park1:02:43

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