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Cannibalism and the dark web in Germany

April 02, 2022 / 01:16:00

This episode covers the chilling case of Armin Meiwes, also known as the "Rottenburg Cannibal," and his interactions with victims through online cannibal forums. It features detailed accounts of his correspondence with potential victims, including the tragic story of Björn Brandes, who sought to be eaten alive. The episode discusses the psychological aspects of both Armin and his victims, exploring their motivations and desires.

The narrative begins with Reinhold, a medical student who discovers disturbing online content and reaches out to authorities about a user named Frankie, who is seeking young men for butchering. This leads to a lengthy investigation that ultimately uncovers Armin's identity and his gruesome activities.

Armin's interactions with Björn Brandes are highlighted, detailing their agreement and the events leading up to the fatal meeting. The episode describes the horrific details of the slaughter, including the psychological dynamics between the two men.

Throughout the episode, the moral and legal implications of Armin's actions are examined, including the eventual trial and the controversial verdict that followed. The episode raises questions about consent, mental health, and the boundaries of human desire.

Listeners are left to ponder the complexities of the case and the disturbing realities of the human psyche as it relates to extreme fetishes and the quest for connection.

TL;DR

The episode recounts the disturbing case of Armin Meiwes, who sought to fulfill his cannibalistic desires through online interactions with victims.

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reinhold sat stunned in the soft glow of
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his computer screen
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it was approaching dawn on tuesday july
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9 2002 and the 23 year old medical
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student had been up all night on the
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internet
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what he had witnessed had disturbed him
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measurably and reinhold had to tell
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somebody
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he opened up a new email template and
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began typing
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ladies and gentlemen of the federal
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criminal bureau
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my name is reinhold
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he went on to describe his experiences
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online the night before
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seeking horrifying thrills reinhold had
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used widely popular search engines to
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explore the darkest recesses of the
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internet for content that would shock
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him
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they led him to a forum where a small
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but active group of users interacted
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excitedly over their shared interests in
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taboo and or forbidden fetishes
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reinhold thought that what he was
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reading was just erotic role play based
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entirely in fantasy
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his attention was soon drawn to an
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advertisement posted by a user named
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frankie
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titled
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boy's sought for butchering the
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accompanying text read
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hi i'm frankie from germany
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i'm looking for young men between 18 and
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30 to butcher
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if you have a normal build then come to
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me
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i'll butcher you and eat your delicious
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flash
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driven by curiosity reinhold sent
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frankie an email
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in it he mentioned his age and that he
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lived in the austrian town of innsbruck
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how many boys have you butchered and
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eaten reinhold tight before clicking
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sand
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he received a prompt response
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well let's say i have experience frankie
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wrote back
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in any case
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you wouldn't be the first
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reinhold continued reading the email
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from frankie
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in reference to reinhold's age of 23
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frankie had written
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that's an optimal butchering age the
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body has just matured and is still very
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tender
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he requested that reinhold tell him more
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about himself specifically his height
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and weight before signing off his email
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with
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your master butcher
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frankie
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reinhold was shocked
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the lions i have experienced and you
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wouldn't be the first implied frankie
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wasn't just pretending
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wanting no part in what he had planned
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reinhold replied
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i don't want to be butchered i want to
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live
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he then asked frankie what compels
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someone to kill and eat other people
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[Music]
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the question is as old as humanity
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itself frankie answered
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for myself i'm not interested in killing
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someone in cold blood because then i
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would be simply grabbing somebody and
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eating him and i would be just a common
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killer
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i'm looking for people who have a desire
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to die for whatever reason
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some of them dream of being butchered
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others simply want to end their lives
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because they have no future prospects
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i then prepare for them a death such as
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they desire for themselves
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my wish since childhood has been to have
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someone entirely to myself and then to
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absorb him into me by eating him
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reinhold's response was swift and blunt
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you are not doing these people any favor
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by killing them you look exclusively for
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young men and exploit someone's life
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crisis
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everyone sometimes reaches a point where
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he can't cope with life
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sometimes they have no friends and no
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family and no one they can talk with
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no
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what you do is not admirable but
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pathologically perverted
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[Music]
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people who come to you and whose fate
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you feel would have done better to go to
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a psychologist
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and you too should go to a psychologist
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for even if you won't admit it to
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yourself you are a cold-blooded murderer
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by the time their correspondence had
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ended the sun was beginning to rise
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reinhold had spent a sleepless night
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glued to his computer emailing back and
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forth with frankie
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concerned by what he had uncovered he
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reached out to germany's federal
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criminal bureau via email
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after detailing his interactions with
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frankie reinhold ended his email by
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stating
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i don't know how to handle it
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at 5 49 am reinhold clicked
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sand it took 19 days before anyone at
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the bureau addressed reinhold's email
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a chief criminal commissioner eventually
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looked into the matter by going
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undercover online and contacting frankie
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directly
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feigning interest in the topic of
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cannibalism they emailed frankie to
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obtain information that might lead to
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his real-world identity
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the message read
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i stumbled on your post where you're
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looking for boys to butcher i find it
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fascinating
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please write to me about how you imagine
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it
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[Music]
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frankie sent a long and detailed reply
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later that night that began
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now as i say it you will come to me live
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with me for a week and during that time
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i'll really get to know you
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one wants to know whom one is eating
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frankie then explained that during the
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final two days of their encounter he
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would place his victim on a liquid diet
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to keep their intestines empty for the
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butchering process
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that would begin on the last day or day
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x as frankie called it
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he'd wake his victim early wash and
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shave them in the bathroom then take
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them to his slaughter room
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he offered to kill the undercover
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commissioner in whatever way they'd like
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fully conscious or drugged
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their choice
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i'll carve you up to prepare many
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delightful dishes from your delicious
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flesh frankie told the commissioner
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who he thought was a 26 year old that
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lived in the german state of hesse
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incidentally frankie wrote i am also
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from hesse near castle
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[Music]
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he ended the email as he had with
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reinhold weeks prior
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your master butcher
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frankie
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[Music]
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at this point there was nothing to prove
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that frankie had killed or devoured
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anyone
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with no evidence of a crime having taken
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place the federal criminal bureau cast
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the case aside
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what he spoke of was so outrageous and
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inconceivable it was easy to believe
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that he was just some imaginative
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deviant dramatizing his gruesome and
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violent kink online
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but reinhold felt otherwise
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he remained convinced that he had
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interacted with a real world killer
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five months after his interactions with
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frankie and upon realizing authorities
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were no longer pursuing the matter
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reinhold filed a criminal complaint for
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the suspicion of murder
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he addressed how the accused had
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expressed experience in the field of
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cannibalism which gave reinhold the
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well-founded suspicion that at least in
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one case he had killed a person
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it took another 44 days before any
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further action was taken
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by now the bureau had obtained frankie's
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internet provider address
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this allowed them to locate the computer
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where he sent his emails as well as the
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device's internet service customer
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information
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the computer was pinpointed to a
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residential address in the medieval town
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of rottenburg in hesse
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specifically in the hamlet of
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woosterfeld
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the internet service it used was
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contracted to a mr armin maivus
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the suspicion of murder complaint filed
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by reinhold was delegated to the
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district court of rottenborg
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even though reinhold's accusations were
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based solely on text on the internet the
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court ruled that frankie's online
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confessions constituted suspicion of
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presentation of violence
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this was enough for them to issue a
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search warrant for the worsterfeld
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address where frankie had sent his
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emails
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the three-story 36-room tudor style of
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worcesterfield home was an impressive
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residence but it had seen better days
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built in the middle ages around 900 a.d
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the manor set on a 3 000 square metre
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plot of land of mostly meadows with an
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outbuilding that was previously used as
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a stable
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it's half half-timbered facade looked
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slightly askew as the doors windows and
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dormers were positioned without any
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sense of symmetry
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the property was owned by the maivus
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family who had purchased the decrepit
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manor with the intention of renovating
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it into a functioning boarding house
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having failed that the manor had been
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permanently stuck in an unfinished
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worsening state
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of the five family members who had
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settled in the home only one remained
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the front iron gate was open when the
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police arrived at the woosterfeld manor
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on the morning of tuesday december 10
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2002
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they made their way up the gravel drive
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and upon reaching the house banged the
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bronze lion's head knocker on the front
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door
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a tall lean man with thinning dark
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blonde hair and pale eyes soon appeared
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it was the sole homeowner occupier 41
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year old armin marvis
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he was in the process of getting ready
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for work and was surprised to see the
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officers who handed him their search
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warrant
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the inside of the house was dark and
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musky
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dust covered almost every surface
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wallpaper was peeling the carpets were
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stained cobwebs hung from the walls and
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dead rodents were spotted in the corners
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most rooms were filled to the ceiling
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with furniture appliances clothing and
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or computing equipment
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some were so cramped with junk that the
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officers couldn't even get into them
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the bathrooms were equally filthy
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only a few rooms appeared lived in and
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semi-maintained including a kitchen
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dining room and two computer work rooms
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that contained a plethora of tech
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equipment including a large collection
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of video tapes and computer disks
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on the top floor of the building was a
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traditional smoke room once used to
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store and cure meat and fish
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little remained from when the room was
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used in this manner aside from an old
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oil stove and a thick layer of soot that
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covered the walls
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the metal frame of a single bed had
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since been brought in and was rusting in
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one corner of the room
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against the back wall was a large wooden
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cross in the shape of an axe and in the
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center was a long table adorned with
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three knives a meat cleaver and an axe
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a butcher's apron also lay nearby
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patches of a dark red substance stained
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the concrete floor
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in a kitchen downstairs was a freezer
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that at first glance held nothing more
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than a few frozen pizzas
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upon closer inspection an officer
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noticed the freezer had a false bottom
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when she lifted it up she uncovered
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large amounts of meat stored in several
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bags some of it minced and some cut into
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steaks
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the police officer held the bags up to
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armin marvis and asked him what they
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were
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wild pig meat he answered
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she looked at him incredulously
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she did a lot of cooking and the meat
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looked like nothing she had ever seen
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before
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the bags were labeled with the word
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kator
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[Music]
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hello kator the email began
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i read your ad
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i'll slaughter you but only if you
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really want me to
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let me hear from you
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your master butcher
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frankie
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it was monday february 5 2001 and
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frankie had just stumbled across an ad
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on one of the online cannibal forums he
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frequented
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titled your dinner a user going by the
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name kator had written
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i offer to let myself be eaten alive
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[Music]
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kator was pleased to receive frankie's
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offer
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i hope you're really serious about it he
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emailed back
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i really want it and have already met
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enough cyber cannibals
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frankie had experienced similar
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disappointment
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several men had expressed eagerness for
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him to eat them online only to back out
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once they met in person
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unlike them kator was committed
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he was very clear about his expectations
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telling frankie that he wanted his
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genitals to be bitten off
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then i'll be ready for slaughter he
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declared
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the pair settled on a date on the ninth
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day in the following month of march
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frankie would eat kator
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the act would take place at frankie's
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home in a soundproofed room he had
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designed for this sole purpose
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as march drew nearer the frequency in
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which kator and frankie communicated
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online increased as did their level of
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excitement
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they showed little interest in talking
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about the mundane parts of their lives
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such as their jobs or relationships
00:22:16
instead almost every night they chatted
00:22:18
excessively about the upcoming slaughter
00:22:21
in gory and sexually explicit detail
00:22:28
offline neither man spoke a word of what
00:22:32
they had planned to anyone
00:22:35
no one among their family friends or
00:22:37
colleagues even knew of their forbidden
00:22:39
sexual fetish
00:22:42
they had become masters at living a
00:22:44
double life
00:22:46
in reality both men lived unassuming
00:22:49
lives and worked in the tech sector
00:22:52
frankie was considered a nice fellow who
00:22:55
mowed his neighbor's lawns without
00:22:56
payment and happily watched his friend's
00:22:59
children
00:23:01
cator dutifully looked after his
00:23:03
grandmother and paid the bills for
00:23:05
friends who were struggling with money
00:23:08
both men were known to have an avid
00:23:10
interest in computers though they only
00:23:13
logged into the cannibal forums when
00:23:15
those around them were asleep
00:23:18
as to how frankie and kator came about
00:23:21
the paths were different but the
00:23:23
destination was the same
00:23:27
the man behind the username frankie felt
00:23:30
his cannibalistic urge develop as a
00:23:32
child and it turned sexual by the time
00:23:35
he was a teenager
00:23:37
the underlying cause was abandonment
00:23:40
issues
00:23:41
in his own words his goal was to bind to
00:23:44
someone in a way that they would always
00:23:46
be with him and to feel the hollow empty
00:23:49
feeling he had inside
00:23:53
for the man behind the username kator
00:23:55
the longing to be eaten coincided with
00:23:58
puberty
00:24:00
a masochist kator derived sexual
00:24:02
gratification from his own pain or
00:24:05
humiliation
00:24:07
as an adult he had explored this side of
00:24:10
himself consensually with sex workers
00:24:12
but none were willing to eat him like he
00:24:15
wanted
00:24:17
desire has lasted a long time kator
00:24:20
wrote to frankie
00:24:22
and will last until it finally comes
00:24:24
true
00:24:27
28 hours before the slaughter was
00:24:30
scheduled to take place kator and
00:24:32
frankie messaged each other for the
00:24:34
final time
00:24:36
they tied up the loose ends of their
00:24:37
plan including what would become of
00:24:40
kator's quote
00:24:41
unprocessed fleshy parts
00:24:44
like his tendons skin organs and bones
00:24:49
giddy with excitement for their meeting
00:24:51
kator ended their communications by
00:24:53
typing
00:24:55
i'll bring myself as breakfast
00:24:58
frankie replied
00:25:01
i'll have an appetite
00:25:06
it was a drizzly winter morning on
00:25:08
friday march 9 2001 as frankie stood on
00:25:11
a platform at the castle wilhelm sphere
00:25:13
train station
00:25:16
the 1014 train arrived and frankie's
00:25:19
attention was drawn to one of the first
00:25:21
passengers to disembark
00:25:24
he was a slender man of average height
00:25:26
with grey green eyes
00:25:29
he was wearing dark clothing and a
00:25:31
baseball cap which partially hid his
00:25:33
streaked grey and balding black hair
00:25:37
it was kator
00:25:40
the men recognized each other
00:25:42
immediately from the photos they had
00:25:44
traded online
00:25:46
they exchanged a brief hello
00:25:49
let's get off the platform kator said
00:25:52
there are too many people around
00:25:56
frankie led him to a nearby lot where he
00:25:59
had parked his car
00:26:01
driving away from castle city frankie
00:26:04
tried to keep his focus on the road but
00:26:06
kator started caressing him from the
00:26:08
passenger seat
00:26:11
stop it frankie told him wait until
00:26:14
we're in my home it's only 60 kilometers
00:26:19
they arrived in woosterfeld an hour
00:26:21
later
00:26:23
frankie pulled up to his expansive
00:26:25
though severely neglected manner and the
00:26:28
two headed inside
00:26:31
upon returning from the kitchen with
00:26:33
coffee frankie was confronted by a stark
00:26:36
naked cator who said
00:26:39
i want you to be able to admire your
00:26:42
food
00:26:44
within minutes he was ready to get
00:26:46
started
00:26:47
come on show me the room he
00:26:50
demanded frankie then led him upstairs
00:26:53
to his slaughter room
00:26:57
inside kator remained in a heightened
00:27:00
state of arousal
00:27:03
he ordered frankie to tear the flesh off
00:27:05
his body with his teeth but frankie was
00:27:08
reluctant
00:27:10
this was not how he envisioned their
00:27:12
encounter
00:27:14
firstly he hated violence
00:27:16
secondly he expected it to be a
00:27:18
week-long affair
00:27:20
allowing time for the men to get to know
00:27:22
each other before any blood was spilled
00:27:26
the slaughter process wasn't supposed to
00:27:28
be frenzied it was meant to be slow and
00:27:30
methodical
00:27:32
kator's vision was far more spontaneous
00:27:35
than savage
00:27:37
he wanted to die that very day
00:27:42
unable to go through with kator's
00:27:44
demands frankie left him disappointed
00:27:48
you're too soft kator remarked
00:27:51
you can't inflict pain the way i'd like
00:27:53
it
00:27:54
you can't slaughter me at all
00:27:58
he asked to be taken back to the train
00:28:00
station
00:28:05
the man hardly spoke during the drive
00:28:08
once they reached the station frankie
00:28:11
apologized
00:28:13
he reiterated that it was his life's
00:28:15
wish to consume someone but they wanted
00:28:18
different things from the experience
00:28:21
it just wasn't going to work
00:28:25
kator purchased a train ticket intent on
00:28:27
going home then suddenly he had a change
00:28:30
of heart
00:28:32
if i go back to berlin now i'll be
00:28:35
facing a showdown he said
00:28:38
while frankie didn't know what that
00:28:40
meant whatever was playing on kator's
00:28:43
mind had led him to compromise
00:28:46
he still wanted to die that day but he
00:28:49
was willing to prolong the experience
00:28:51
and scale back the violence
00:28:55
frankie would no longer have to
00:28:56
literally eat him alive though he still
00:28:59
wanted his genitals to be removed
00:29:03
kator came up with a new plan
00:29:07
he would be drugged then once he was
00:29:09
drowsy enough frankie could go through
00:29:11
with a far more intricate slaughter
00:29:15
frankie was glad kator had reconsidered
00:29:18
and headed to a nearby pharmacy where he
00:29:20
purchased liquid cold medicine and
00:29:22
sleeping pills
00:29:25
kator took 10 of the pills and washed it
00:29:28
down with the entire bottle of cold
00:29:30
medicine
00:29:32
the potent combination took effect on
00:29:34
the drive back to woosterfeld
00:29:38
the two men returned to the slaughter
00:29:40
room
00:29:41
kator removed his clothes laid on the
00:29:44
bed in the corner and guzzled down half
00:29:46
a bottle of schnapps to become tipsy as
00:29:49
well as drowsy
00:29:51
by now it was just past 6 pm
00:29:56
i can't stand it any longer kate or
00:29:58
barked
00:30:00
do it
00:30:01
now
00:30:03
cutting off kator's penis was a painful
00:30:06
and messy process as the initial knife
00:30:09
used was found to be too blunt
00:30:12
it took several slashes of a larger
00:30:15
sharper knife to completely sever the
00:30:17
organ from kator's body all the while he
00:30:20
screamed in agony
00:30:23
though once it had been removed kator
00:30:26
was astonished and thrilled and within
00:30:28
minutes he reported feeling no pain at
00:30:31
all
00:30:32
he sought to wait the organ but the raw
00:30:35
flash was too tough to bite into
00:30:39
after patching up kator's wound frankie
00:30:42
headed down to the kitchen where he
00:30:44
proceeded to blanch and broil the organ
00:30:47
into halves
00:30:49
he seasoned the halves and served them
00:30:52
on a plate with fresh tomatoes
00:30:56
by the time he returned to the slaughter
00:30:58
room the mattress beneath kator was
00:31:00
soaked in blood
00:31:03
kator attempted to eat the cooked flesh
00:31:06
but it was rock hard
00:31:08
not even a fork could penetrate it
00:31:11
deeming it inedible frankie threw the
00:31:14
pieces into a bucket as waste
00:31:18
kator laid back on the bed disappointed
00:31:22
all he wanted to do now was sleep
00:31:26
frankie stroked his face to soothe him
00:31:30
before kator drifted off the pair
00:31:33
finally revealed to each other their
00:31:35
real names
00:31:37
up until this point they had only known
00:31:39
and referred to each other by their
00:31:41
online usernames from the cannibal
00:31:43
forums
00:31:46
i'm amen frankie said
00:31:52
decades before police came knocking on
00:31:55
his door an eight-year-old armin maivus
00:31:58
wandered his family's woosterfeld manor
00:32:00
feeling incredibly lonely
00:32:04
his mother valtrod mavis had moved amin
00:32:07
and his two older half-brothers to the
00:32:09
expansive property shortly after amin's
00:32:12
father had abandoned them to pursue a
00:32:14
relationship with his girlfriend
00:32:17
amin had loved his father but when he
00:32:20
ran desperately after his father's car
00:32:23
howling for him not to leave his father
00:32:25
didn't even glance at the rear view
00:32:27
mirror
00:32:29
amin despised him after that
00:32:34
amin's brothers didn't stick around long
00:32:36
either
00:32:37
they moved out leaving amin alone with
00:32:40
his mother
00:32:43
men were not independent individuals
00:32:46
with their own interests and needs
00:32:48
they were malleable things that she
00:32:50
could shape and control
00:32:53
once his father and brothers were gone
00:32:56
amin was the only man left in veltroud's
00:32:59
life and she began to shape him
00:33:01
accordingly
00:33:04
veltroud didn't do any housework so the
00:33:07
extensive upkeep of the manner fell to
00:33:10
armin
00:33:12
referring to him as her little servant
00:33:14
valtrod ordered amin around the home
00:33:17
expecting him to cook and clean when he
00:33:19
wasn't at school
00:33:21
when he was amin was teased for his
00:33:24
relationship with his domineering mother
00:33:28
other students called him a mother's boy
00:33:30
and made fun of the traditional
00:33:32
lederhosen he wore at her insistence
00:33:37
in the aftermath of her failed marriage
00:33:39
valtrod withdrew from society fearing
00:33:42
further rejection
00:33:45
this fear led her to foster a sheltered
00:33:48
and oppressive life for ramen at times
00:33:51
sabotaging his relationships with others
00:33:53
so he'd only have her
00:33:56
she had him live in the room across from
00:33:58
her own and would summon him by banging
00:34:01
the end of her walking stick on the hard
00:34:03
floor
00:34:06
despite going to great lengths to keep
00:34:08
amin in her life valtrod was very rarely
00:34:11
affectionate towards him
00:34:14
she treated amin downright coolly with
00:34:16
the amount of times she hugged him each
00:34:19
year countable on a single hand
00:34:23
valtrod also feigned illness as a means
00:34:26
to control
00:34:28
one day a fifteen-year-old amin was
00:34:31
helping his mother get downstairs after
00:34:33
she had complained of leg pain
00:34:36
he thought to himself
00:34:38
one good shove and it's finally over
00:34:43
instead of unleashing his rage amin
00:34:46
internalized it
00:34:49
he hated his own cowardice and how his
00:34:51
devotion and eagerness to please
00:34:54
overrode his ability to express his true
00:34:56
feelings
00:34:58
the problem was even though his mother
00:35:01
was a burden she was the last meaningful
00:35:04
person in his life
00:35:06
amin feared losing her and he suspected
00:35:10
she felt the same about him
00:35:13
still she couldn't feel the place of the
00:35:15
male role model that amin desperately
00:35:18
saw
00:35:22
from a young age amin relied on his
00:35:24
imagination to escape his reality
00:35:28
he would lose himself in books with the
00:35:30
dark fairy tales written by german
00:35:32
brothers jacob and wilhelm grimm
00:35:35
becoming treasured fantasy worlds he
00:35:37
could revisit over and over
00:35:41
some days amen would track the
00:35:43
mountainous countryside at the rear of
00:35:45
his home with a brother's grim book in
00:35:47
hand looking for somewhere to read in
00:35:49
private
00:35:52
on one such occasion a ten-year-old
00:35:54
armin sat beneath a tree and opened his
00:35:57
book to his favorite fairy tale hansel
00:36:00
and gretel
00:36:02
one of the most popular stories in the
00:36:04
brothers grimm collection the narrative
00:36:06
follows two children lost in a forest
00:36:10
eventually they stumble across a house
00:36:12
made of gingerbread with an old woman
00:36:15
inside who promises to help them
00:36:18
she is actually an evil witch who
00:36:20
captures hansel and gretel
00:36:24
amin would have a physical reaction
00:36:26
whenever he read this story
00:36:29
his heart rate would increase with each
00:36:31
page turn bringing him closer to the
00:36:33
part that truly delighted him
00:36:37
the old woman had only pretended to be
00:36:40
so kind she was in reality a wicked
00:36:43
witch
00:36:44
amin would read with excitement
00:36:48
when a child fell into her power she
00:36:50
killed it cooked it and ate it and that
00:36:53
was a feast day with her
00:36:56
early in the morning before the children
00:36:59
were awake she was already up and when
00:37:02
she saw both of them sleeping and
00:37:04
looking so pretty with their plump and
00:37:06
rosy cheeks she muttered to herself
00:37:10
that will be a dainty mouthful
00:37:14
amin considered how lovely it would be
00:37:17
to weed another person
00:37:19
in doing so they would assimilate into
00:37:22
him and he would never again feel the
00:37:24
hollow sting of loneliness
00:37:28
as these thoughts fermented in the
00:37:30
privacy of amin's mind he sought the
00:37:32
opinion of the only person he could
00:37:35
trust an imaginary brother he had formed
00:37:38
in response to the overwhelming
00:37:40
isolation he experienced
00:37:43
amin had given his imaginary brother the
00:37:46
name frankie
00:37:51
decades later rottenburg police left
00:37:54
armin's house after executing a search
00:37:56
warrant
00:37:58
they didn't leave empty-handed
00:38:00
they had confiscated his computer
00:38:02
equipment among other things and a book
00:38:05
of his titled flesh and blood
00:38:08
most significant was the three bags of
00:38:11
meat they had taken from his freezer
00:38:15
once the police were gone amin maivus
00:38:18
paced nervously wanting someone to talk
00:38:20
to
00:38:22
he couldn't speak with his mother as she
00:38:24
had died several years prior from a
00:38:26
heart attack
00:38:29
amin had lived alone in the house since
00:38:33
he picked up the phone and called one of
00:38:35
his half-brothers
00:38:38
his sister-in-law picked up and
00:38:40
immediately sensed something was wrong
00:38:44
armin admitted that he was in trouble
00:38:46
with the police
00:38:49
do you have a corpse lying in the cellar
00:38:51
or something his sister-in-law jokingly
00:38:53
asked
00:38:55
he replied
00:38:57
no
00:38:58
in the freezer chest
00:39:00
she laughed assuming he was joking
00:39:05
amin then called the office where he
00:39:07
worked as a computer technician
00:39:10
he told his boss that he needed to leave
00:39:13
and that he might never come back
00:39:17
at 3 30 that afternoon a call was placed
00:39:20
to the roltenborg police
00:39:22
the caller was armin marvis's attorney
00:39:26
he said that amin was with him and was
00:39:29
ready to make a full confession
00:39:34
throughout his life amin maida sought
00:39:36
gratification for his cannibalistic
00:39:38
desires where he could
00:39:41
as a child he'd watch his neighbors
00:39:44
slaughter hogs for meat to sell
00:39:47
in his teens he shadowed his friend to
00:39:50
the butcher shop where he worked to
00:39:52
observe him dismembering animal
00:39:54
carcasses
00:39:56
it wasn't an unpleasant sight to arm in
00:40:00
he felt joyful to witness a once living
00:40:02
being serving a profound and important
00:40:05
purpose
00:40:07
whenever someone ate that meat that
00:40:09
animal was with them forever
00:40:14
he became more creative in his adult
00:40:16
years
00:40:17
he barbecued barbie dolls and took
00:40:19
delight in the way their plastic bodies
00:40:21
melted and warped
00:40:24
he modelled limbs and organs out of
00:40:26
marzipan before devouring them as if
00:40:28
they were the real thing
00:40:31
he studied serial killer cannibals such
00:40:34
as jeffrey dahmer and researched recipes
00:40:37
ideal for human flesh
00:40:40
he constructed a cardboard diorama of a
00:40:43
slaughter room before replicating it in
00:40:45
the old smoke room upstairs
00:40:49
no one knew what stood deep inside armin
00:40:52
marvis's mind
00:40:54
he once told a schoolmate about his
00:40:56
desire to eat human flesh but they
00:40:59
laughed in response assuming he was
00:41:01
making it up
00:41:04
once amen got a computer he was able to
00:41:07
indulge in his fantasy in new shocking
00:41:10
ways
00:41:11
he'd digitally alter images of men he
00:41:14
had cut from pornographic magazines to
00:41:16
appear butchered and bloodied
00:41:19
he did similar alterations to photos he
00:41:22
took of himself
00:41:25
the internet led to armin discovering
00:41:28
that there were many others in the world
00:41:29
that had the same morbid interests as
00:41:32
him in time he became frankie
00:41:38
the imaginary brother from his childhood
00:41:40
had now become a digital persona he used
00:41:43
to interact with other cannibal
00:41:45
fetishists online
00:41:48
many years later he crossed the virtual
00:41:50
paths with a user named kator
00:41:54
it wasn't until kator lay drugged and
00:41:57
bleeding in his slaughter room that amin
00:42:00
finally learned his real name
00:42:02
[Music]
00:42:09
sleepings were rare for renee yasnick
00:42:12
the 21 year old baker was used to
00:42:14
getting up early for work but a
00:42:16
week-long holiday in early march 2001
00:42:20
provided him the opportunity to be lazy
00:42:23
friday march 9 marked the final day of
00:42:26
said holiday and renee wasn't planning
00:42:28
on switching up his routine
00:42:32
he stirred at around 6 40 am needing to
00:42:35
use the bathroom and immediately
00:42:37
afterwards he slipped back into bed
00:42:39
alongside his sleeping boyfriend bjern
00:42:42
brandes
00:42:44
renee didn't wake up again until almost
00:42:47
three hours later
00:42:49
the remainder of his day would be spent
00:42:51
relaxing at the apartment he shared with
00:42:53
bjernt in the city of berlin germany
00:42:57
renee had the apartment all to himself
00:43:00
as bjorn had already left for work
00:43:04
later that night renee's feelings of
00:43:06
relaxation had dissipated
00:43:10
it was nearing 7 40 p.m and burnt was
00:43:13
usually home by now
00:43:16
at first renee was annoyed
00:43:19
he thought bjorn had gone for an
00:43:20
after-hours drink with some colleagues
00:43:22
and not bothered to inform
00:43:24
him but by 10 pm renee's irritation gave
00:43:29
way to concern
00:43:31
bjernt was reliable and it was out of
00:43:33
character for him not to contact renee
00:43:35
to let him know why he wasn't home on
00:43:37
time
00:43:39
strangely not only did bjorn's mobile
00:43:42
phone go unanswered but it continued to
00:43:44
play an automated voice message that
00:43:47
said
00:43:48
this connection is temporarily
00:43:50
disconnected
00:43:53
when burnt failed to come home that
00:43:55
night renee spent the weekend reaching
00:43:57
out to all of bern's friends and
00:43:59
acquaintances trying to track him down
00:44:03
no one had seen the 43 year old
00:44:08
renee called bjern's office at the
00:44:10
technology corporation where burnt
00:44:12
worked as a computer engineer
00:44:15
he was met with the answering machine
00:44:19
but it's renee here the machine recorded
00:44:23
as renee spoke pleadingly
00:44:26
i need to talk to you i'm worried please
00:44:29
come home
00:44:31
whatever has happened i'm sure we can
00:44:33
work it out
00:44:34
just come home please
00:44:40
desperate for answers renee phoned
00:44:42
bjorn's employer and was surprised to
00:44:44
learn that bjernt had taken the friday
00:44:46
he disappeared
00:44:48
off he had told his supervisor that he
00:44:52
needed to do so for personal reasons as
00:44:54
there was something he wanted to take
00:44:56
care of
00:44:58
he gave no other details
00:45:02
renee was confused
00:45:04
burnt had told him he was going into
00:45:07
work on friday
00:45:09
he even stated that he had a lot to do
00:45:11
that day and would not be reachable on
00:45:13
his mobile phone or in the office
00:45:17
thursday night had passed normally with
00:45:20
no hints that beyond was hiding
00:45:22
something
00:45:24
when beyond had left the apartment on
00:45:26
friday morning he had taken his
00:45:27
apartment keys wallet and mobile
00:45:30
phone renee was under the impression
00:45:33
that he had indeed gone to work
00:45:38
unable to uncover any clues as to where
00:45:40
bjorn had really gone renee reported him
00:45:43
missing to the police
00:45:46
he told them of their stable long-term
00:45:48
relationship and of burnt's commitment
00:45:50
to his job
00:45:53
although he worked a long hours bjern
00:45:56
earned enough for them to live a good
00:45:57
life together that was marred only by
00:46:00
infrequent arguments over everyday
00:46:02
problems
00:46:04
in recent months bjernt had spent his
00:46:06
work bonus to spruce up their apartment
00:46:09
with expensive furnishings and he and
00:46:11
renee had been eagerly planning an
00:46:13
overseas holiday to take later in the
00:46:15
year
00:46:18
renee maintained that burnt was happy
00:46:20
and ruled out the possibility that he
00:46:22
had gone somewhere to take his own life
00:46:27
any hope that bjernt would resurface to
00:46:29
attend a work conference on monday march
00:46:32
12 was lost when he failed to show up
00:46:34
for the event
00:46:37
three days had now passed since anyone
00:46:39
had seen or heard from him
00:46:42
he hadn't accessed his bank accounts
00:46:44
over the weekend nor had he used company
00:46:47
funds which were also available to him
00:46:51
to those who knew bjernt his sudden
00:46:53
disappearance was perplexing
00:46:56
police had a little luck locating him in
00:46:59
the following weeks
00:47:01
with no word from his missing boyfriend
00:47:03
renee yasnick reached out to former
00:47:06
journalist nina hermann who had
00:47:08
previously worked for a local newspaper
00:47:11
hoping she could track burt down using
00:47:13
her investigative skills
00:47:17
after questioning employees at bjorn's
00:47:20
work nina made a small discovery
00:47:24
one of bjorn's colleagues had seen him
00:47:26
on the morning of his disappearance at
00:47:28
barnhoff zoo train station in berlin
00:47:32
he thought nothing of the sighting as he
00:47:35
knew bjernt took a train to work each
00:47:37
day
00:47:38
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00:47:39
armed with a photograph of beard renee
00:47:42
and nina scoured the train station for
00:47:44
clues and questioned staff shop owners
00:47:47
and travellers to determine where he
00:47:49
might have gone to next
00:47:52
no one recalled seeing burnt so renee
00:47:55
posted his photo in the local newspaper
00:47:58
hoping that it would generate some leads
00:48:02
it didn't
00:48:04
he had seemingly vanished into thin air
00:48:09
in truth he was bagged up in pieces at
00:48:12
the bottom of armin marvis's
00:48:18
freezer amin maevus maintained that he
00:48:22
didn't know bjernt brandus was in a
00:48:24
relationship when they met
00:48:27
in his confession amin said he knew very
00:48:30
little about bianca's personal
00:48:32
life although bjernt as kator mentioned
00:48:36
having a friend armin didn't know that
00:48:39
this person was a romantic partner with
00:48:41
whom burnt had lived with
00:48:44
in hindsight it offered an explanation
00:48:47
for a remark burnt had made to armin
00:48:49
when they returned to castle wilhelm's
00:48:51
fure train station following their
00:48:54
failed first attempt at the slaughter
00:48:58
describing his recollections from the
00:49:00
station to author gunterstamf for his
00:49:03
book interview with a cannibal amin
00:49:05
explained that bjernt was intending to
00:49:08
go home until he said
00:49:10
if i go back to berlin now i'll be
00:49:13
facing a showdown
00:49:17
amin queried the cryptic remark but
00:49:19
bjernt didn't elaborate
00:49:22
could he have been agonizing over having
00:49:24
to explain his abrupt disappearance to
00:49:27
his boyfriend renee
00:49:30
it could have led to the unravelling of
00:49:32
his double life
00:49:34
simultaneously ruining both
00:49:38
author gunter staff noted that beyond
00:49:41
faced a literal life or death impasse
00:49:44
quote
00:49:46
between returning home and slaughter
00:49:48
between reason and madness
00:49:53
yet chose death slaughter and madness
00:49:59
the reasoning behind biern's decision
00:50:02
including why he sought to be eaten died
00:50:04
with him
00:50:06
he didn't pen a suicide note or record a
00:50:09
goodbye message
00:50:11
comments and behavior in the lead-up to
00:50:13
his fateful day acts were otherwise
00:50:16
normal
00:50:18
right before he left to meet with armin
00:50:20
maivis bjernt did a clean sweep of his
00:50:23
personal computer eradicating all trace
00:50:26
of their communications
00:50:29
it was obvious that he didn't want
00:50:30
anyone in his life to know about kator
00:50:36
medical professionals retroactively
00:50:38
examined byrt's life to uncover what
00:50:41
might have led him on his path of
00:50:43
self-destruction
00:50:45
at age five beyond's mother ended her
00:50:48
own life
00:50:50
burnt was forbidden to talk about her
00:50:53
death to his father
00:50:54
and as an only child he had no one else
00:50:56
to turn to
00:50:59
their relationship soured from then
00:51:01
onwards
00:51:04
bien's father was a cold tyrannical man
00:51:07
who was never impressed by burnt despite
00:51:09
his successors in life
00:51:12
by the time burnt was an adult the pair
00:51:15
were practically estranged
00:51:18
then bjernt was cut off from his
00:51:20
father's life entirely when he revealed
00:51:23
he was in a relationship with a man
00:51:27
doctors speculated that bjorn's
00:51:29
masochism stemmed from feelings brought
00:51:32
on by his father
00:51:33
either the hatred burnt had for him or
00:51:36
the hatred bjernt had of himself as a
00:51:38
result of his father's disapproval
00:51:42
bianc's father was reluctant to speak
00:51:44
about his son after learning what he had
00:51:46
done
00:51:48
in a brief conversation with a physician
00:51:51
he said that bjorn's childhood and youth
00:51:53
development were uneventful
00:51:57
burnt had a string of failed
00:51:59
relationships both with men and women
00:52:02
which linked to the overarching theme of
00:52:04
rejection
00:52:06
yet there was nothing to prove that any
00:52:08
of this was the catalyst for his actions
00:52:12
if he had any depressive moods or other
00:52:14
mental disorders bjorn hid them well
00:52:19
march 9 was not a significant date in
00:52:21
his life and the word kator wasn't found
00:52:24
to be relevant either
00:52:27
the only person who could offer any true
00:52:29
insight into bjorn's cannibalistic
00:52:31
desires was the person who carried them
00:52:34
out
00:52:36
amin maivus said being consumed was
00:52:38
bjorn's ultimate ecstasy his life goal
00:52:43
his death was his quote
00:52:46
ultimate sexual climax
00:52:53
the slaughter didn't play out that way
00:52:56
beyond didn't get to experience the
00:52:59
euphoric feeling of being eaten alive
00:53:01
that he had longed for
00:53:03
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00:53:04
his diax had ended disappointingly with
00:53:07
him bleeding out in armin marvis's
00:53:09
slaughter room
00:53:12
dressing the wound did a little to stem
00:53:14
the flow and burnt was insistent that an
00:53:17
ambulance not be called
00:53:20
he turned to armin and said
00:53:23
as soon as i'm asleep
00:53:25
cut my throat
00:53:28
with a potent mix of blood loss cold
00:53:30
medicine sleeping pills and alcohol
00:53:33
impacting burnt's body armin suspected
00:53:36
he would pass out soon
00:53:38
yet half an hour later burnt was still
00:53:41
awake
00:53:44
amen i'm so cold he said before
00:53:47
requesting to be put in a warm bath to
00:53:50
expedite his bleeding
00:53:52
amin obliged
00:53:55
removed burnt bandages as bjorn lowered
00:53:58
into the warm water
00:54:01
seeing the blood spurt from his open
00:54:03
wound uplifted him
00:54:07
at this point bjernt wanted to go to
00:54:09
sleep in the bathtub and bleed to death
00:54:13
amin went to his bedroom and read
00:54:16
stopping every quarter hour to return to
00:54:18
the bathroom and check if burnt had died
00:54:22
two and a half hours passed and bjernt
00:54:24
remained conscious
00:54:27
as bjorn went to lift himself out of the
00:54:30
tub he blacked out and his body crumbled
00:54:33
to the floor
00:54:35
armin began carrying bjorn's limp body
00:54:38
back upstairs to the slaughter room at
00:54:41
which point bjernt stood awake
00:54:45
with the sudden burst of energy he tried
00:54:47
to walk by himself
00:54:49
he believed that by doing so his blood
00:54:52
would flow out better and he would pass
00:54:54
out faster
00:54:56
then you can finally do it he told armin
00:55:01
amin gobbiand back into the slaughter
00:55:04
room and returned to checking on him
00:55:06
every quarter hour
00:55:09
then at 3 30 a.m he heard bjernt
00:55:12
stirring about and went to see what he
00:55:14
was up to
00:55:16
he found bjernt sprawled out on the
00:55:18
floor
00:55:20
he had managed to pull himself out of
00:55:22
bed but had tripped over in the darkness
00:55:26
armin roused the burnt who remarked
00:55:30
i've got to piss
00:55:34
i'm in dissuaded bjern from moving
00:55:38
if you stand up now you'll be dead you
00:55:41
have no blood left in you
00:55:44
delirious burnt insisted he needed to go
00:55:47
to the toilet
00:55:49
he stood up but within seconds his legs
00:55:52
gave way and he fell to the floor
00:55:55
this time amin couldn't wake him
00:56:01
amin donned a plastic apron
00:56:04
he placed burnt naked body on the table
00:56:06
in the center of the room where he tied
00:56:09
it down
00:56:11
after a farewell kiss and a brief prayer
00:56:14
amin hesitated
00:56:17
the feeling passed quickly
00:56:20
he tilted beard's head slightly then
00:56:23
inserted a knife into his neck
00:56:26
it had been 10 hours since bjorn's
00:56:29
ordeal had begun
00:56:33
when speaking of the killing to author
00:56:35
gunther staff amin recalled having an
00:56:38
indescribable feeling of anger and joy
00:56:40
at the same time
00:56:43
quote
00:56:44
i hated myself for wanting to do it and
00:56:47
i hated bjernt because he had come to me
00:56:51
on the other hand i had an unbelievable
00:56:54
feeling of happiness
00:56:57
it all went the way bjernt wanted
00:57:04
for years armin had studied medical
00:57:07
textbooks and searched the internet for
00:57:09
the ideal slaughter technique
00:57:12
now he put his knowledge into practice
00:57:16
after an hour of intense work amin
00:57:18
switched his butcher's apron for a pair
00:57:20
of pajamas and slept peacefully
00:57:25
the mutilation of burnt brandis body
00:57:27
continued the following day of saturday
00:57:30
march 10.
00:57:32
on sunday amiens sat alone at the end of
00:57:35
his dining table
00:57:38
he had dressed it for the occasion with
00:57:40
his finest tablecloth a black porcelain
00:57:43
dining set polished cutlery and a glass
00:57:46
of his favorite red wine
00:57:50
the table's centerpiece a candelabra
00:57:53
created a warm ambience
00:57:56
on a plate before ramen was a piece of
00:57:59
burnt brandis's upper back
00:58:01
cooked seasoned and served with the
00:58:04
sauce
00:58:06
as detailed in the book cannibal by lois
00:58:09
jones armin said a short prayer that
00:58:12
ended
00:58:15
lord god thank you for providing me with
00:58:17
a friend for life and for sacrificing
00:58:20
beyonce's life on earth for me
00:58:24
i hope i won't be lonely anymore
00:58:29
as i'm innate he said
00:58:32
this is the most tasty meal i've ever
00:58:35
had nothing is so delicious
00:58:39
his words were directed to beyonce's
00:58:41
decapitated head which amin had
00:58:44
positioned on the dining table next to
00:58:46
him
00:58:49
he eventually buried a beard's head in
00:58:51
his backyard along with bjorn's arms
00:58:54
legs and feet
00:58:57
in the months that followed armin ate 45
00:59:00
out of the 65 pounds of human flesh he
00:59:03
had stored in his freezer
00:59:06
he even aided at work in the form of
00:59:09
rissoles with his colleagues none the
00:59:11
wiser
00:59:14
armin believed that through this process
00:59:17
he was absorbing bjorn's characteristics
00:59:19
and talents
00:59:22
bjern had a decent grasp of the english
00:59:24
language and amin felt his english
00:59:26
speaking was improving with each meal
00:59:32
despite having got exactly what he had
00:59:34
wanted amin wound up back online
00:59:37
scrolling through cannibal forums as
00:59:40
frankie
00:59:42
emboldened by having done what other
00:59:44
users only fantasized about armin
00:59:47
started bragging about his real-life
00:59:49
cannibalism experience
00:59:51
he also posted gory pictures he had
00:59:54
taken when he butchered bjern's remains
00:59:57
yet his taste for human flesh had not
01:00:00
been satisfied
01:00:04
eighteen months after burnt brandeis's
01:00:06
slaughter armin received an email
01:00:10
someone had responded to his ad titled
01:00:13
boys sought for butchering
01:00:17
it was a 23 year old man from the
01:00:19
austrian town of vince brooke named
01:00:21
reinhold
01:00:24
from there armin mivus's double life
01:00:27
completely unravelled leaving those who
01:00:29
knew him as a seemingly harmless
01:00:31
friendly and helpful man utterly shocked
01:00:37
following armian's confession police
01:00:39
returned to his worsterfeld manor to
01:00:42
undertake a more thorough search
01:00:45
bjernt's head and limbs were uncovered
01:00:47
in the backyard just as amin had
01:00:50
forewarned
01:00:52
inside the house officers discovered a
01:00:55
collection of vhs tapes concealed in a
01:00:58
bookshelf
01:01:00
what they contained caused many of those
01:01:02
who watched them to seek psychological
01:01:05
counselling
01:01:08
at just over eight hours long amin had
01:01:11
videotaped everything that had occurred
01:01:13
in the slaughter room between him and
01:01:15
burnt brandeis
01:01:18
this included the severing of burnt's
01:01:20
penis his eventual death and the
01:01:22
butchering of his remains
01:01:26
a meticulous record keeper armin had
01:01:29
also kept copies of all the interactions
01:01:31
he had online with bjernt brandes
01:01:35
there were pages upon pages of email and
01:01:38
chat correspondence between the pair in
01:01:40
which they discussed the upcoming
01:01:42
slaughter in gory and gratuitous detail
01:01:50
as the act of cannibalism was not a
01:01:52
crime in germany lengthy deliberations
01:01:55
were held to determine what exact
01:01:57
charges armin marvis would face
01:02:01
amin's attorney felt he should have been
01:02:03
charged with killing on request azamin
01:02:06
had acted only to fulfill bjern's wish
01:02:08
to die
01:02:10
the prosecution disagreed
01:02:14
while they accepted that bjorn's consent
01:02:16
was a condition for his killing it was
01:02:19
not the motivating reason
01:02:22
they argued that amin killed bjern in
01:02:24
order to butcher him and to satisfy his
01:02:27
own fetish to consume male flash
01:02:31
they sought a conviction based on the
01:02:33
charge murder for sexual satisfaction
01:02:38
as per german law in a criminal case
01:02:41
involving the death of a person the jury
01:02:43
was composed of three professional
01:02:45
judges and two members of the public
01:02:50
71 seats in the public gallery were
01:02:52
awarded at random by lottery as citizens
01:02:55
and journalists vied to witness the
01:02:58
macabre spectacle in person
01:03:01
trial itself began one year after armin
01:03:04
marvis was arrested
01:03:07
a number of self-confessed cannibals
01:03:09
gathered outside in support of armin
01:03:12
with one telling a reporter
01:03:15
there are lots of us out there we admire
01:03:18
ramen because he had the guts to see
01:03:20
this thing through
01:03:25
amin appeared calm and collected in a
01:03:27
certain time
01:03:30
one onlooker told a new york times
01:03:32
reporter that amen looked like the
01:03:35
nicest cannibal you could ever meet
01:03:39
when amen took the stand he spoke for
01:03:41
hours
01:03:43
at no point did he show any emotion or
01:03:45
express any remorse
01:03:49
show me the statute that says what i've
01:03:51
done is against the law he said
01:03:53
pointedly at the prosecution
01:03:56
he reiterated that burnt wanted to die
01:03:59
and that he was merely assisting him
01:04:02
quote
01:04:04
my friend enjoyed dying
01:04:06
for him it was a nice death
01:04:09
burnt came to me of his own free will to
01:04:11
end his life
01:04:13
i accept this is taboo
01:04:15
but i can justify what i did to god and
01:04:18
the world
01:04:21
he denied killing burnt for sexual
01:04:23
satisfaction
01:04:25
saying
01:04:26
i didn't want to have sex with the
01:04:28
partner i chose to slaughter that had
01:04:31
nothing to do with it
01:04:33
one has sex with a partner in bed not
01:04:36
with a piece of meat
01:04:38
it had nothing to do with sexual arousal
01:04:42
by eating i wanted to make this person
01:04:44
become part of me
01:04:51
at one stage the courtroom was emptied
01:04:53
so only the jury could watch the videos
01:04:55
amin had recorded of him and bjernt in
01:04:58
the slaughter room
01:05:00
the footage had been heavily edited to
01:05:02
remove imagery deemed too graphic but
01:05:05
what remained still greatly disturbed at
01:05:07
those who viewed it
01:05:10
please do it this way bjernt was
01:05:12
recorded telling armin
01:05:15
get another knife
01:05:18
the footage conveyed what amin had hoped
01:05:21
bjernt was a willing participant who
01:05:23
prompted consented and encouraged
01:05:26
everything armin did to him
01:05:29
but it also showed something that was
01:05:32
not favourable to the defense
01:05:35
analysis of the footage revealed bjernt
01:05:37
was still breathing when armin had
01:05:39
killed him
01:05:41
bjorn's body was also shown to be
01:05:43
restrained to the table as if to keep
01:05:46
him still
01:05:48
this contradicted armin's testimony in
01:05:51
which he said he thought burnt was dead
01:05:53
before he inserted the knife through his
01:05:55
throat
01:05:58
the nearly 500 emails and messages
01:06:01
between frankie and kator were also read
01:06:03
out to the court
01:06:06
these favored the defense as it showed a
01:06:08
quote
01:06:09
willingness agreement between the two
01:06:12
men in which bjernt brandes fully
01:06:14
consented to being slaughtered by armin
01:06:16
marvis
01:06:19
in his closing statement armin spoke of
01:06:22
his correspondence with austrian student
01:06:24
reinhold which ultimately led to his
01:06:27
arrest
01:06:29
if i hadn't been so stupid as to keep
01:06:31
looking on the internet ahmin said i
01:06:34
would have taken my secret to the grave
01:06:40
amin my verse appeared at ease when it
01:06:42
came time to hear the court's
01:06:44
verdict the preceding judge acknowledged
01:06:47
that after viewing the slaughter video
01:06:50
it was clear that armin took no pleasure
01:06:52
in the actual killing of burnt brandes
01:06:56
he went on to say
01:06:58
both maivus and brandis were looking for
01:07:01
the ultimate kick
01:07:03
this was an act between two extremely
01:07:05
disturbed people who both wanted
01:07:08
something from each other
01:07:11
the courtroom fell silent when the
01:07:13
verdict was read
01:07:15
the judge explained that while amin had
01:07:18
committed a behavior which is condemned
01:07:20
in our society there was an express
01:07:23
request by bjernt brandes to be killed
01:07:27
as such the court found that what amin
01:07:29
had done was killing a person without
01:07:32
being a murderer
01:07:35
amin maithis was convicted of
01:07:37
manslaughter and sentenced to eight and
01:07:39
a half years imprisonment
01:07:42
with good behaviour he was up for
01:07:44
release in under four and a half years
01:07:49
despite receiving a somewhat favorable
01:07:51
outcome amin maivus appealed the verdict
01:07:54
insisting his actions fell under killing
01:07:57
on request
01:07:59
he wasn't the only one to appeal
01:08:02
the state attorney was horrified by the
01:08:04
light sentence and believed he should
01:08:06
have been found guilty of murder
01:08:10
fifteen months later the initial trial's
01:08:12
outcome was reversed
01:08:14
amin maivus was to be retried for murder
01:08:20
at the conclusion of amin maivis's
01:08:22
retrial in may 2006 it was determined
01:08:26
that the killing of burnt brandis did in
01:08:28
fact fulfill all the requirements for
01:08:30
murder
01:08:32
the court decided that amin had
01:08:34
motivating reasons that were in his
01:08:36
self-interest to kill bjern namely
01:08:39
sexual gratification
01:08:42
therefore it was not a one-sided mercy
01:08:45
killing
01:08:46
the state prosecutor said
01:08:50
you wanted to record a film in your head
01:08:52
a hit film a film you could play again
01:08:55
and again so you could satisfy yourself
01:08:58
sexually
01:09:00
amin rebuked the decision saying
01:09:03
it was not a sex thing every bite i took
01:09:06
of him brought me closer to my brother
01:09:09
i wanted to eat him i didn't want to
01:09:11
kill him
01:09:14
in his final courtroom speech amin
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stated
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i believe everyone should be able to
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decide what he wants to do with his own
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body
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amin maivus was found guilty of murder
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and sentenced to life imprisonment
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amin maivus's lawyer believed that the
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sentence handed down to his client was
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purposely excessive to deter any further
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aspiring cannibals to act on their
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impulses
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amin would later admit to author gunter
01:09:51
staff that no punishment would have
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deterred him from slaughtering and
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eating beyond brandes
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even the death penalty
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quote
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the degree of punishment is unimportant
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when someone like me has this desire and
01:10:06
wants to carry it out he'll go to any
01:10:09
length to bring it about
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i have had this desire with me for 30
01:10:14
years
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detectives have endeavoured to track
01:10:18
down all those who corresponded with
01:10:20
armin mivus online to uncover a thriving
01:10:23
cannibal network across europe that
01:10:26
armin estimated had at least 800 members
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armin assisted the detectives who
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managed to identify 200 people and
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uncover several more possible cannibal
01:10:38
killings
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many of those involved were highly
01:10:42
educated individuals in successful
01:10:44
well-respected careers such as dentists
01:10:47
teachers and government officials
01:10:52
in 2004 amen marvel sued german heavy
01:10:56
metal band ramstein upon the release of
01:10:58
their controversial single mind tile
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referred to as the cannibal song my tile
01:11:06
which is slang for my penis contained
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lyrics inspired by armin maivus's crimes
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considered one of the band's most
01:11:15
notable live performances my tiles sees
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a band member performing in a giant
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cooking part that is set alight by lead
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singer till lindemann who dons a
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blood-stained chef's apron while holding
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a microphone with a large real knife
01:11:30
attached to the end
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armin marvis claimed the band had no
01:11:36
right to make a song about his story
01:11:38
without his permission
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the suit never reached court
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armin was able to get a 2006 film based
01:11:49
on his crimes titled rodenborg butterfly
01:11:52
a grim love story temporarily banned in
01:11:54
germany after complaining it infringed
01:11:57
on his personal rights
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the ban was overturned in 2009 after
01:12:03
germany's federal court of justice ruled
01:12:05
that the producer's right to artistic
01:12:07
freedom trumped that of amin's personal
01:12:10
rights
01:12:14
recent reports state that amin maivus is
01:12:17
a model prisoner who is described by
01:12:19
fellow inmates and guards alike as
01:12:21
popular friendly and polite
01:12:25
as a result he is allegedly allowed to
01:12:28
leave prison with two escorts and in
01:12:30
disguise to wander around the local town
01:12:35
he also professes to have become a
01:12:37
vegetarian
01:12:41
armin applied for parole in 2017 but was
01:12:45
unsuccessful
01:12:47
further parole bids have been denied
01:12:49
because of his poor social prognosis in
01:12:52
the community and his lack of remorse
01:12:54
for his actions
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while amin was diagnosed with schizoid
01:12:59
personality by criminal psychologists
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they have found him to have no signs of
01:13:04
actual mental illness
01:13:08
a journalist for german newspaper belina
01:13:11
morgenpost once wrote of armand maivus
01:13:15
the one who listens to him learns a lot
01:13:18
about loneliness and alienation and
01:13:21
about the dark side of an otherwise
01:13:23
iridescent medium the internet
01:13:26
it is opening up so many opportunities
01:13:30
but at the same time it is providing
01:13:32
invisible accomplices in countless dark
01:13:35
chambers
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01:14:00
in 2016 case file covered the
01:14:03
disappearance of 22 year old shano
01:14:06
callahan all you can see is headlights
01:14:08
of a car flashing it's blatantly obvious
01:14:11
that she got in that car whoever had
01:14:14
taken her had done it for criminal
01:14:16
purposes
01:14:17
now hear firsthand from loved ones and
01:14:20
lead investigator steve fulcher as we
01:14:22
unravel how the case unfolded and the
01:14:25
minefield of legal and ethical dilemmas
01:14:28
encountered along the way
01:14:30
therefore there's only one way to do
01:14:31
this it was at that point that steve
01:14:34
fortune decided to take an extraordinary
01:14:36
gamble her life is my responsibility all
01:14:39
i could do was plead with him for her
01:14:42
life when a killer confesses
01:14:45
do you listen he said you and i should
01:14:48
have a chat the fact of his guilt
01:14:50
was unequivocal
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but what if one interpretation of the
01:14:55
law says you shouldn't accept the
01:14:57
confession
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when he got taken to swindon he got a
01:15:01
lawyer all that conversation
01:15:03
those vital confessions
01:15:05
disappeared of no value what they were
01:15:08
doing what were they doing
01:15:10
what happens to the cop who believes
01:15:13
he's making the right choice the whole
01:15:15
reason we were there
01:15:17
was losing sight what was wrong
01:15:20
in getting a confession
01:15:22
from a murderer it obviously rehearsed
01:15:24
this line that you ended with which was
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it was a pleasure to ruin your career
01:15:29
you corrupt bastard if it had been your
01:15:32
loved one steve fulcher was looking for
01:15:35
what would you have wanted him to do to
01:15:37
crucify somebody
01:15:39
for trying his best
01:15:41
to get closure for two families
01:15:43
doesn't make
01:15:44
a lot of sense
01:15:46
case file presents the detective's
01:15:48
dilemma available for free on march 14
01:15:52
only on spotify
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Episode Highlights

  • The Detective's Dilemma
    A gripping 10-part series exploring moral dilemmas faced by detectives.
    “What would you have done?”
    @ 00m 21s
    April 02, 2022
  • Reinhold's Disturbing Discovery
    A medical student uncovers a chilling online forum that leads to a shocking correspondence.
    “You are not doing these people any favor by killing them.”
    @ 07m 06s
    April 02, 2022
  • The Final Agreement
    Kator and Frankie finalize their gruesome plan, leading to a chilling encounter.
    “I'll bring myself as breakfast.”
    @ 24m 51s
    April 02, 2022
  • A Change of Heart
    Kator decides to scale back the violence of his encounter with Frankie.
    “If I go back to Berlin now I'll be facing a showdown.”
    @ 28m 35s
    April 02, 2022
  • Kator's Demands
    Kator's intense desires lead to a shocking confrontation in the slaughter room.
    “Cutting off Kator's penis was a painful and messy process.”
    @ 30m 03s
    April 02, 2022
  • The Disappearance of Bjorn
    Renee Yasnick's search for his missing boyfriend leads to unsettling discoveries.
    “He had seemingly vanished into thin air.”
    @ 48m 02s
    April 02, 2022
  • Bjernt's Troubled Past
    Exploring Bjernt's childhood reveals the roots of his complex psyche.
    “Bjernt was forbidden to talk about her death to his father.”
    @ 50m 50s
    April 02, 2022
  • Amin's Ultimate Ecstasy
    Amin Maivus described being consumed as Bjorn's ultimate ecstasy, his life goal.
    “Being consumed was Bjorn's ultimate ecstasy, his life goal.”
    @ 52m 38s
    April 02, 2022
  • The Courtroom Drama
    Amin's trial revealed the complexities of consent and desire in a chilling case.
    “Both Maivus and Brandes were looking for the ultimate kick.”
    @ 01h 07m 01s
    April 02, 2022
  • Life Imprisonment
    Amin Maivus was found guilty of murder and sentenced to life imprisonment.
    “Amin Maivus was found guilty of murder and sentenced to life imprisonment.”
    @ 01h 09m 28s
    April 02, 2022

Episode Quotes

  • You are not doing these people any favor by killing them.
    Cannibalism and the dark web in Germany
  • I'll bring myself as breakfast.
    Cannibalism and the dark web in Germany
  • If I go back to Berlin now I'll be facing a showdown.
    Cannibalism and the dark web in Germany
  • Between reason and madness, yet chose death, slaughter, and madness.
    Cannibalism and the dark web in Germany
  • I hated myself for wanting to do it.
    Cannibalism and the dark web in Germany
  • The degree of punishment is unimportant when someone like me has this desire.
    Cannibalism and the dark web in Germany

Key Moments

  • Detective's Dilemma00:21
  • Final Agreement24:51
  • Childhood Trauma50:50
  • Self-Hatred51:36
  • Failed Relationships51:57
  • Disappointing End53:04
  • Awakening54:35
  • Murder Retrial1:08:10

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