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on a bright red sign greets travellers approaching the u.s town of mountain city
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in the northeast corner of tennessee as the local population has never peaked beyond 2600 people
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mountain city residents remain close-knit they live a slow pace to lifestyle among
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the mountains valleys and forests the summers are warm the winters are short cold and wet and
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it's partly cloudy all year round there is no public transport so everybody has a car and to that car
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he's more often than not a pickup truck most residents own a gun many people owned several
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at around 6 30 on the morning of january 31 2012 brad osborne was making his usual
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drive to pick up his friend and co-worker bill payne the two men worked at the parkdale mills
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textile plant and often carpooled to work bill was staying in his father's white
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single-story weatherboard house in mountain city he lived there with his partner billie
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jane hayworth and their infant son as well as bill's father billy ray payne better known around
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town as poor bill when brad osborne arrived at the payne house poor bill had already left for work
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about an hour earlier brad pulled into the driveway and remained in his car usually bill would emerge from the house
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when brad arrived they started work at 7am but the drive to the factory wasn't far
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the sun had yet to rise and the bride could see a light emanating from bill's bedroom window
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though there was no movement within brad tooted the horn and waited but bill didn't appear he tried calling bill's
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cell phone but was unable to get through minutes passed and brad became increasingly concerned about being late
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for work he got out of his car and walked over to the house to hurry his friend along
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knowing that it was rarely locked brad headed to a sliding glass door at the rear of the house when his knocks went
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unanswered brad let himself in an alarm clock was going off in one of the bedrooms
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brad picked up the landline in the living room and called bill's cell again but he couldn't hear it ring
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then brad heard something it sounded like the quiet whimper of a baby not feeling comfortable with going into
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the bedrooms where billie jean and her baby might be sleeping brad called out once more
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he was met with silence and took this as his cue to leave brad drove alone to the textile plant
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only to discover that bill was not there and did not turn up as the morning wore
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on later that morning at around 10 another visitor pulled up to the pain house roy stevens arrived to pick up his mail
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which had been sent to poor bill's place his wife linda stayed in the car while roy let himself in
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via the rear sliding glass door roy hollowed out sure that somebody must be home
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after receiving no response he ventured down the hallway towards the bedrooms as he approached the first room roy saw
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what looked like blood near the doorway [Music] roy opened the door into the bedroom
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bill shared with billie jean he spotted a 36 year old bill face up on the bed his face was badly beaten and blood
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coagulated around his neck roy rushed to bill grabbed his arms and shook him hoping to get a response when he got
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none he raced outside yelling for linda linda was trained in cpr she tried to find a pulse in bill's
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neck before realising that his throat had been cut as his wife called 9-1-1 roy heard
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something coming from another part of the house he made his way down the hallway to a
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second bedroom inside year old billy jane hayworth was lying in a pool of blood on the floor
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of her son's nursery tight in her arms was her baby boy he didn't stir his face was blotchy and
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red and blood caked his sleeper suit and the back of his head it was clear billie jean was deceased
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to roy's relief her baby was still breathing all of the blood around him belonged to
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his mother the baby himself was unhurt linda broke down as she described the condition of the little boy to the 911
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operator quote the baby kind of to me as a parent looks like maybe it's been crying for a
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while and probably cried till he can't cry no more both bill and billie jean had been shot
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in the head there were also deep slash wounds across bill's neck although it was unclear whether they
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were sustained pre or post-mortem neither victim had defensive wounds suggesting they had been taken by
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surprise with bill in his underwear and billie jean in pyjamas it appeared as though the couple had
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been confronted while they were still in bed or shortly after waking everything was normal when poor bill
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left for work at around 5 30. the pair were presumably dead by the time brad osborne had arrived to
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pick up bill an hour later tennessee bureau of investigation agent scott lott arrived on the scene there were several
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firearms at the residence but the shotguns and a 22-caliber pistol he located were not the murder weapons the bullets
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fired upon the victims had come from a 38 caliber or 9 millimeter handgun murder-suicide was swiftly ruled out
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the gun and knife used in the crime were missing nothing was found at the house that
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hinted at the perpetrators identity neighbours described bill payne and billie jane hayworth as a nice young
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couple they didn't hear anything suspicious the morning of the murders usually poor bill's dog would bark if
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strangers came to the house which made the investigators wonder was the killer someone known to the family
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perhaps even welcomed inside a search of the payne residents uncovered a small quantity of drugs
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including methamphetamine police also recovered a meth pipe and some prescription medication
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mountain city was going through a drug crisis at the time but nobody in the payne household was on
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the police radar as being part of any large-scale dealing billy gene's best friend a woman named
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lindsay thomas had been at the payne home the day before the murders billie jean mentioned receiving a fresh
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batch of pills for her and bill to sell the couple apparently carried out some low-level drug dealing to make extra
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cash to buy things for their baby lindsay wondered if a buyer was supposed to meet bill before he left for work
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and things turned deadly this seemed even more likely given that methamphetamine was not found in either
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of the victim's systems but was sitting out on a plate with a straw beside it as though
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someone had recently taken a hit bill's cell phone records showed the numbers of those who had called him
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prior to his death they led to two of his friends who admitted that they occasionally bought
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pills from him it was no major drug operation however bill sometimes sold or swapped his
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prescription medication with a small group of contacts his friends had intended to pick some up
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the night before he was killed but bill had sent them a text at 11 30 saying that he was tired
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and was not going to meet them the double homicide was the biggest incident johnson county had seen
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in a very long time everybody in mountain city knew the couple or members of their families
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theories abound especially online on local forums members of billie jean's family fronted
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the media and begged her killer to come forward her mother questioned how anyone could
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leave her infant grandson an orphan she explained how much billie jean and bill loved being parents
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adding i didn't know a soul that didn't like them [Music] jamie curd lived in a trailer at the end
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of a muddy driveway up a steep hill with its outdoor laundry tub and sofa on the porch
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it was a typical dwelling of those who were doing it toughest in johnson county jaime had dropped out of school to work
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at the parkdale mills textile plant where he labored through 12-hour shifts but he was able to work alongside his
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cousin bill payne the two were close despite their differences bill was popular and charismatic with
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lots of interests and hobbies he was a coin collector who enjoyed nascar trips to las vegas and had a
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reputation as a bit of a player he embraced life and had a tendency to blow his paycheck
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as soon as he got it jamie on the other hand was the sort of person that people didn't notice much if they did they
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thought him pleasant harmless and quiet a follower not a leader at 35 years old he had never had a
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proper girlfriend he also had a stammer as well as a condition that meant he needed to wear
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dark glasses all the time even inside in late 2009 billie jean hayworth was hired at the textile plant where jamie
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curd and bill payne worked the two billies clicked immediately they had many shared interests both
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being outdoorsy types who enjoyed fishing hiking camping and running they also liked to visit flea markets yard sales
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and auctions bill spoke of falling head over hills in love when billie jean discovered she was
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pregnant bill was overjoyed the future for the soon-to-be parents looked bright bill had had his share of run-ins with
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the law but cleaned himself up after meeting billie jean he drank less quit partying and had eyes only for her
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he enrolled in a clinic to kick his drug dependence and to the surprise of those who knew
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him even gave up smoking yet not everyone seemed happy for the young couple not long after they went public with
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their pregnancy anonymous nasty comments about the pair appeared online even billie jeans closest to france
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lindsey thomas and tara osborne were not immune to the criticism it started with someone calling himself
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matt potter matt vilified the three women on the mountain city topics forum a community news site that was
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incredibly popular in town someone named kelly weighed in and supported matt's accusations
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as did another user going by the name dan white together they accused the women of promiscuity spreading
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sexually transmitted diseases drug taking and a litany of other transgressions while calling them vile names
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others chimed in too the posts were vicious and disturbing one comment directed at billie jean
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ended [ __ ] them i hope they die die die and that baby and bill in the aftermath of bill and billie
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jean's murders several townsfolk name dropped to jaime kurd to investigators according to reports he recently had a
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falling out with his cousin jamie explained that this was because bill had been ranting at him about something posted
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online jamie said he wasn't on social media so he didn't know anything about it he also denied knowing anything about
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the murders yet the investigation kept circling back to jaime and he agreed to take a polygraph test
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although such tests are unreliable and inadmissible in court police find them useful in
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interrogations to discover how people act when lying the test told them that jamie was not being honest
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particularly when asked if he knew who killed bill and billie jean the interrogator told jaime his
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polygraph results and assured him we're not looking to crucify anybody we just want the truth we're looking for
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who pulled the trigger that's all are you the type of man who could shoot a woman
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probably begging for her life while her baby is in her arms jamie responded no appealing to jamie's better nature the
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interrogator told him how good he'd feel if he told the truth after about an hour and a half sensing
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that jamie was beginning to crack the interrogator pressed him who shot him who had the gun
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jamie responded he did they kept pushing [Music] stickers covering the back windshield of
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buddy potter's truck made it clear that he staunchly supported the second amendment
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as well as the national rifle association he owned many guns two of which he carried at all times
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one in a shoulder harness and one on his ankle sometimes he wore a holster around his
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hips old west to gunslinger style [Music] buddy was the nickname of local man marvin potter jr
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seven years earlier in 2004 the potter family consisting of marvin his wife barbara
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and their adult daughter janelle moved from pennsylvania to mountain city like many small towns most of the locals
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had lived there for generations and could be slow to warm to outsiders it didn't help that the potter family
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kept to themselves and quickly developed a reputation of being odd buddy potter told anyone who'd listen
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about his military history including his experiences fighting in the vietnam war
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he spoke of being confined in a prisoner of war camp and rescuing fellow injured marines
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for this he was awarded the navy cross medal the second highest military award for
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valor he added it to his three silver stars bronze star medal purple heart medal airborne wings and
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scuba badge he proudly displayed photographs of himself in uniform with all his decorations
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after attending jump diving survival and recon schools he said he was assigned to marine force
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reconnaissance a special operations force tasked with military intelligence missions
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he then worked with the central intelligence agency which handled national security
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everything that happened there was classified he couldn't and wouldn't talk about it
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to anybody jamie kurd became known to buddy when the potter family computer started
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having issues jamie had a reputation as a computer tinkerer who could fix basic tech issues and was quick to offer
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the potters his assistants upon arriving at their house he was taken to the troublesome device
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it was located in a common area of the home where it was primarily used by everyone but buddy who seemed to have no
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interest in it jamie returned to the potter house several times to clean up and reformat
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their hard drive buddy and barbara potter accepted his help and tolerated him being around
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despite not liking him that much one day barbara potter noticed her daughter in possession of a prepaid cell
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phone she had never seen before while examining it barbara discovered it contained messages
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from jamie kurt he had supplied it to janelle so they could speak in private with an iq of 72 27 year old janelle
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functioned at around a fourth grade level her entire school life was spent in special education
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and by the time she graduated janelle didn't have the skills to get or hold on to a job or drive a car
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with a slew of health problems including type 1 diabetes and partial deafness she was put onto a social security
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disability payment and lived with her parents who took care of all her needs as such both buddy and barbara were
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highly protective of janelle and were displeased that jamie with his drinking and drug taking habits
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was showing interest in their naive and vulnerable daughter upon realising that jamie curd had been
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covertly pursuing her daughter barbara potter texted that she was on to him and confiscated the phone he had
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given janelle she had no idea that jaime supplied janelle with another then in february 2010 the police called
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the potters after finding janelle wandering the dark streets alone she was under the impression that she
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was going to elope with the jaime that night which was his birthday jamie however
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had spent the evening drinking and had passed out the next morning buddy potter called
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jamie and thundered down the line for him to stay away from his daughter when he was interrogated in relation to
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the murders of bill payne and billie jean hayworth jaime implicated buddy potter
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he then asked a bizarre question is the c.i.a here when asked for the meaning behind his
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strange query jaime explained it was because buddy potter had told him he was with the c.i.a
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he remarked i was hoping the c.i.a had my back jamie told investigators he participated in the murders because he
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was afraid of buddy he never wanted to kill anyone and hadn't done anything violent before
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he said he felt horrible bill was like a brother to him agent lot asked to jaime to call buddy
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and ask what happened to the gun and knife used in the murders barbara potter answered the phone and
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spoke with the jaime for a few minutes she was aware that jaime had been arrested
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and asked if he had taken a lie detector test and whether he had passed it he said yes to both questions
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when buddy came to the phone jamie muttered well they're pointing fingers buddy responded oh jiminy christmas
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buddy told jaime there was no reason for anyone to suspect him because the homicides looked like a drug
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deal gone bad as instructed by the cops jamie asked you got rid of everything that was from
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bills right uh-huh buddy responded it wasn't quite a confession but it was enough
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police descended on the potter residence and arrested buddy who was armed even at 3 30 am
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officers then moved through the house searching for evidence at one stage barbara potter who had been
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sitting on a couch in the living room beside her daughter reached over picked up a stack of papers
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and ripped them in half all this did was bring attention to the documents barbara was ordered to hand them over
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they consisted of printed email correspondence and included candid photos of billie
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jane hayworth and her best friend lindsay thomas the images had been taken from the
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women's social media pages the emails had subject lines like billy [ __ ] for billie jean and pant face for
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lindsay this wasn't the only interesting paper detectives found in the back of buddy's truck were three
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large garbage bags full of shredded paper bundled up ready to be disposed of officers seized the potter's computer an
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external hard drive and a green spiral notebook next to the monitor they also took what detectives would
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later call an arsenal 32 firearms including rifles semi-automatics handguns an ak-47
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and shotguns along with a huge supply of ammunition the gun used against bill payne and
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billie jane hayworth was not among them buddy potter was led into the same interrogation room
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jamie curt had sat in earlier he was asked you know why you're here right buddy responded
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someone's told you that i'm the one that killed somebody the potters had made a big impression on
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mountain city in the short amount of time they had resided there when inquiries were underway into the
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murders of bill payne and billie jean hayworth the potter name kept cropping up enough to put the family on agent lot's
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priority list he paid them a visit when agent lot told the potters that he was investigating a double homicide
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buddy responded everybody always points the finger at us for something it was no secret that the potter family
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had severe grievances with other townsfolk bill payne and billie jane hayworth especially
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that conflict had arisen from an online dispute that had turned intensely vitriolic
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buddy admitted to visiting the paint house many times in relation to the feud though denied involvement in the murders
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agent lot asked if the potters knew of anybody who would want to hurt the victims
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they didn't but janelle spoke of a party at the paint house that had made her uncomfortable there had been drinking
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and a drug use weapons including an ak-47 were present as she didn't want to involve herself in
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that lifestyle janelle didn't attend any more parties she quickly fell out with the two
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billies and their circle of friends typical of the town news of the broken friendship became a hot topic
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online particularly on topics where users took sides despite having no involvement in the dispute
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some defended janelle noting her sweet nature and innocent mindset they ordered the
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other women to leave her alone others stood by bill and billie jean and their friends
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the online bickering mostly fueled by random community members or anonymous posters
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only served to increase hostilities between the ex-friends jenelle's social media accounts were
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hacked and fake pages had been created using her photo her father had to deal with baseless
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accusations of being a drug dealer efforts to quash the animosity were futile against the aggressive
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cruel and degrading comments shared online the potter family accused billie jane
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hayworth and her friends of instigating continuing and amplifying the harassment
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but felt bill payne was also a driving factor janelle explained that bill was always
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trying to push someone's buttons and that anyone who came into contact with the couple
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had trouble with them barbara potter informs agent lot that sugar had been poured into the potter's
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gas tanks that buddy's truck was scratched their garage door was broken and the rocks were thrown at their house
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and janelle's bedroom window despite all the issues they had with the victims buddy assured agent lot that he would
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never wish murder upon anybody following buddy potter's arrest he was asked whether he
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was a cold-hearted killer or his family's protector but he responded i'm a protector of my
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family to start with but i did not do this he was told that jaime kurd had already
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implicated him in the murders to which buddy replied he's throwing me under the bus
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as the hours wore on buddy became emotional he revealed the extent of the harassment
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his family had received since their issues arose with bill and billie jean he said there was a 3
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000 bounty on each member of his family adding ever since all this crap started i've
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had my life threatened my wife has been threatened they've threatened to take janelle
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cut her head off catch her in a restroom and murder her rape her because she's a virgin and just
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so much [ __ ] buddy broke down and started sobbing he was then asked do janelle and barbara
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know what you did he responded with a firm no after the interview buddy called his
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wife their conversation was covertly recorded buddy opened with barbara before you find out from
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somebody else i want you to know i was involved in it i did it i didn't want you to be afraid
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no more rather than sound shocked barbara responded calmly that he could not have committed the
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murders because he was at home with her the whole time buddy told barbara i love you
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i did it to protect you but barbara wasn't having it she said you're not guilty because you were here you have to say
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that you were here i saw you you haven't had no rest and you don't have your oxygen
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you're not yourself right now before concluding the call barbara repeated don't worry honey you were right here
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i saw you right here detectives were mystified was this a loving wife trying to provide an alibi
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for her husband or was buddy potter innocent [Music] barbara potter would later criticize the
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police for interviewing buddy for hours without allowing him access to the oxygen that he needed to function
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properly she accused them of coercing a confession because when denied oxygen her husband
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often said strange and untrue things a doctor later stated that while buddy's history of hypoxia could have
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contributed to an impaired state of mind there were no known cases of hypoxia causing a patient to lie
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both buddy potter and jamie kurd were charged with first degree murder with bonds set at 1.5 million dollars
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each neither made bail the investigation then took a massive hit when jaime suddenly recanted his confession
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regardless detectives remained certain that jaime and buddy carried out the murders
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and worked quickly on gathering evidence to prove it one agent was tasked with piecing
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together the paper in the garbage bags found in buddy's truck shred by shred it was a painstaking slow
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process but it was believed that they held a key that would break open the case the agent did an astonishing job she
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managed to reconstruct around 100 pages they proved to be both enlightening and confounding
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many of them were printouts of online correspondence between barbara potter and a mysterious man named chris
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the message is dated from 2011 to 2012. barbara referred to chris as son and signed messages to him
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as mum in turn he ended his with i love you all your son chris the police were not aware of the potters
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having a son barbara mostly spoke to chris about the harassment her family had received
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following their move to mountain city they shared a mutual hatred for bill payne billie jane hayworth
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and billie jane's friends for fueling their ongoing grief many of the messages included some sort
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of threat or desire for violence harm or death to the group barbara and chris were particularly
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worried for janelle who bore the brunt of the group's maliciousness chris referred to her as his little
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sister as he had known her since high school reading these messages agent lot felt
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that the potter's computer would hold more clues fortunately the green spiral notebook
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seized from the potter's home contained a list of usernames and passwords to the family's social media
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and email accounts but as they suspected that many of the communications there might have been
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deleted investigators also obtained subpoenas for records from the family's email
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and internet providers [Music] agent lot received a dvd containing over 20 000 emails
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something stood out among them in mid-january barbara had sent herself two links can god forgive a murderer
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and questions about forgiveness and murder why would barbara be wondering about whether god could forgive murderers
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two weeks before bill and billie jean were killed it was important for investigators to
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uncover who the mysterious chris was that barbara messaged daily one year before the murders chris
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emailed barbara for the first time writing hi barbara how are you i hope you are well yes
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this is chris aka cody i'm so sorry to hear all of that is going on i wish there was a way to help you all
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he revealed that he had been on the mountain city topics forum and had seen the disdain towards the
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potters he admitted to commenting on the pages in their defense as the site administrators were doing
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nothing about the toxicity he assured barbara he had taken care of it but rather than stop things escalated
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one day janelle showed her mother an email she had received from billie jean's friend
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lindsay thomas it read your ass is mine you're a [ __ ] [ __ ] remember that i can get you and will
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your daddy can't do [ __ ] to me i'm above the law dumb [ __ ] [ __ ] following this the potters became
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regular visitors to the local police station where they lodged complaints about those
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targeting janelle police were also called to the potter residence after a rock had been thrown
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at the house it had billy payne written on one side billie jean on another and the quote
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i'm your huckleberry the police didn't take the feud seriously and nothing was done to
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placate the potters when barbara expressed her irritation at the lack of police action to chris
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via email he called johnson county law enforcement dumb and untrustworthy he knew the names of many local officers
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and deemed them incompetent and ineffective chris promised barbara that if anyone
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harmed janelle that he would do what he was trained to do it was clear from the pair's discussions
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that chris worked for the cia and through this had connections to buddy potter he mentioned shooting people in the line
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of duty and claimed he had gotten rid of people in russia and in new york he told barbara
00:40:28
i knew what was our saw them so i had to kill but i love to shoot now and killing does
00:40:35
not bother me at barbara let him know as long as you are doing the right thing for mankind
00:40:43
then you will not be judged badly you are helping others by getting rid of the bad
00:40:51
chris expressed the desire to kill the mountain city residents that had caused the potter's grief
00:40:58
including johnson county sheriff mike reese for his inaction however there were always reasons he
00:41:05
couldn't carry out the slayings himself he guaranteed that if buddy took matters
00:41:11
into his own hands he would be protected by the cia this encouraged barbara into thinking
00:41:21
that violent action should be taken against her foes as her family would be safe from
00:41:26
repercussions she badgered chris to talk to his superiors to have buddy's cia identification reissued so that he could
00:41:37
get access to cia guns barbara explained that buddy was fed up and ready and although a very patient man
00:41:47
had been pushed too hard for too long as buddy didn't use a computer barbara would print out any important
00:41:56
information from chris pass it on then destroy the paper one day buddy was handed yet another
00:42:06
printout of an email from chris he had written that if buddy decided to do anything
00:42:13
he should get bill payne first because quote he's really mean and an [ __ ] the emails confused investigators
00:42:27
on the one hand they were certain that chris was not a law enforcement operative
00:42:33
it was extremely unlikely a cia agent would write things like i'm going to run into [ __ ] slut-face
00:42:41
ugly as a mud-faced [ __ ] and her [ __ ] of a boyfriend [Music] all would take an interest in such an
00:42:48
ordinary family as the potters and the petty internet drama that surrounded them
00:42:55
the whole scenario seemed off however chris was a very real person janelle potter's introduction on her
00:43:06
online myspace page included the paragraph then i have chris i have known him for a very long
00:43:15
long time he's a cop in pennsylvania he's a good guy and a true friend and almost like a
00:43:23
brother to me and married to a wonderful girl named megan i wish nothing but the best for you both
00:43:32
investigators were able to find photos of chris his dog and his friends among the
00:43:38
potter's emails one from barbara's account had the subject line pick of chris our son and contained a
00:43:48
text that read this is chris jayden back at youth camp with janelle age 18 or so it was accompanied with a
00:43:58
blurry photograph of two people wearing what appeared to be military fatigues in one of her private facebook messages
00:44:09
barbara had written to a friend that chris jaden had helped janelle fight bullies in school
00:44:16
barbara called chris her adopted son and said that the family loved him but didn't get to see him often enough
00:44:25
so if chris jayden really existed just how involved was he in the murders of bill payne
00:44:32
and billie jane hayworth investigators wanted answers it was time to contact the man himself
00:44:41
and find out what was going on [Music] christopher jaden was a certified constable in delaware
00:44:51
and had previously worked for the city's police department he revealed that he had attended high
00:44:58
school with janelle potter but his recollections didn't align with him seeing her
00:45:04
as a sister he recalled janelle as being very strange she was known to throw tantrums have problems with classmates
00:45:14
and get in trouble a lot like most people chris kept his distance he had two classes with janelle and
00:45:24
spoke to her occasionally but they weren't part of the same friendship group if he was nice to her she would
00:45:32
sometimes hang around but he would extricate himself politely that was the extent of their
00:45:40
interactions she once sent him a friend request on facebook but he declined it chris had not had contact with janelle
00:45:51
since graduating from high school in 2000 he had never met any of the other potters or anyone else
00:45:58
from mountain city this raised the question why would barbara potter call a man she had
00:46:06
never met her son although he worked in law enforcement chris had never served in the cia
00:46:17
chris looked at the photographs of him in the potter's possession some were old profile pictures that had
00:46:23
been lifted from his social media accounts he didn't recognise the rest some were of men who looked like him or
00:46:33
blurry photos in which the man featured could pass as him he had never sent the family or anyone else
00:46:41
involved with the potters pictures of himself it didn't take long for agent lot to
00:46:49
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00:46:55
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00:47:05
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00:47:12
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like so many socially awkward young people the internet was janelle potter's lifeline
00:54:10
in one post she wrote of her move to tennessee i love the friends that i have down here
00:54:16
they are sweet and wonderful people in truth janelle had been struggling to build any
00:54:23
authentic and reciprocal relationships since arriving in mountain city the locals were uncomfortable by her
00:54:31
lack of social awareness and the way she acted overly familiar with them sometimes she went in for an unwelcome
00:54:38
hug she towered over other women standing at over six feet tall but had a high pitched child-like voice
00:54:46
that didn't align with her large frame that didn't stop janelle from adding everyone she knew
00:54:54
as well as people she didn't to her facebook page online she described herself as a loving
00:55:01
and caring person who had been told she was too nice and so sweet but she conceded
00:55:09
i do take things to heart and to let things get to me i try not to but it's very hard
00:55:18
this was abundantly clear when she met bill payne billie jane hayworth and her friends
00:55:24
initially things were cordial between them but when jenelle started bombarding her
00:55:30
newfound friends with messages they were quickly fed up even if they appeared offline
00:55:37
janelle still flooded their inboxes when her messages went unread she would call and
00:55:43
text them this intensity was off-putting and as a result they all unfriended janelle on facebook
00:55:54
this would seem like a petty dispute that would quickly become a non-drama once those involved went their separate
00:56:01
ways however janelle's lack of maturity ensured she took it very seriously she vented on social media and the
00:56:11
dispute caused quite the reaction on the mountain city topics forum she relished in her newfound victim
00:56:19
status though many townsfolk noticed that what they were witnessing didn't match the potter's version of
00:56:26
events in real life billie jean and her friends lindsey thomas and tara osborne faced upwards of 20 calls a
00:56:36
day from the potter's home phone number when they'd answer janelle would either breathe
00:56:42
or scream down the line they were forced to take their phones off the hook just for a reprieve lindsay thomas filed
00:56:50
a phone harassment charge against janelle her affidavit stating this all started
00:56:57
because i deleted her off my facebook however the case was dismissed as lindsay was not able to satisfy the
00:57:05
burden of proof beyond the reasonable doubt that the calls were coming from janelle to buddy and barbara potter
00:57:14
the court result proved their daughter was the innocent party and her tormentors were liars
00:57:24
janelle vehemently denied harassing any of her former friends whom she took to referring as the mean
00:57:31
girls she maintained that she was the victim with the harassment also occurring offline and embroiling
00:57:38
her entire family she shared copies of messages allegedly sent to her by her aggressors
00:57:46
to her parents one warned bill is going to kill you he has said that and i hope he does none of us want you
00:57:56
around nor living you're a waste of air and time on everyone you are nothing janelle informed the mean girls that she
00:58:07
had spoken to the police and that quote they know that i'm not doing a thing it was true that the potters had visited
00:58:16
the police station to report the mean girls they spoke of living in fear convinced
00:58:23
that there were many people in town who would harm jenelle their accused told a different story
00:58:31
they claimed that janelle was harassing them and denied authoring the threatening messages she said she
00:58:37
received from them sheriff mike reese didn't know how to respond when buddy potter made a formal
00:58:45
complaint about locals unfriending his daughter on facebook the sheriff just told him that
00:58:52
unfriending someone was not illegal when a rock was thrown at the potter's house with bill payne and billy jane
00:59:00
hayworth's names written on it police were skeptical despite buddy and barbara's genuine fear that their
00:59:08
daughter was in danger the police didn't believe that vandals would sign their names on evidence of
00:59:14
their crime things continued to escalate but mostly from the potter's side one afternoon in mid-2011 janelle and
00:59:25
her mother confronted billie jean at a gas station they screamed at her that she was quote
00:59:32
white trash who did not deserve to be a mother billie jean told a concerned onlooker
00:59:41
this won't stop they follow me everywhere they're constantly threatening me while visiting a grocery store buddy
00:59:50
potter told a staff member that if he had a chance he was going to put a bullet through
00:59:56
bill payne's head throughout the duration of the feud barbara potter was communicating with
01:00:04
long-time family friend and cia agent chris the pair went back and forth sharing
01:00:11
their hatred of janelle's rivals while compelling each other to do something drastic about it
01:00:18
barbara had never met chris in real life but knew him well enough through janelle to
01:00:23
consider him a son she didn't find it at all suspicious that all the communications she received
01:00:31
from chris were coming from her daughter's personal email chris said this was to ensure his cia
01:00:39
credentials wouldn't be compromised barbara accepted this explanation when jamie curd first met janelle potter
01:00:53
it was an unremarkable experience the pair had been set up in part by jamie's cousin bill payne
01:01:02
since she had met bill through mutual friends many suspected that janelle had a crush
01:01:08
on him he kept things platonic both the jamie and janelle were mountain city's lonely misfits and
01:01:16
bill thought they'd make a good match instead despite a lackluster introduction janelle
01:01:24
asked for jamie's phone number and a relationship quickly blossomed janelle called jamie often but the calls
01:01:32
were no more than 45 seconds they had to be brief because she didn't want her parents to know they were
01:01:38
talking buddy and barbara potter didn't like jaime they felt he was beneath them and a bad
01:01:47
influence while jaime wanted to prove himself worthy it was the first time he had a
01:01:54
girlfriend so he respected janelle's desire to keep things secret [Music] when janelle mentioned she was having
01:02:02
computer problems jamie saw an opportunity to get inside the potter residence to see her
01:02:09
when buddy and barbara deduced that jaime had feelings for their daughter they were not pleased he wasn't good
01:02:17
enough for their beloved janelle and they would never permit the pair to date jaime purchased janella's cell phone so
01:02:25
they could speak behind her parents back when barbara discovered this phone jaime
01:02:32
got janelle another after five or six months jamie and janelle began to talk about eloping
01:02:42
janelle snuck out of her home one night to wed jaime but he got drunk and failed to meet up
01:02:48
with her buddy was furious when he learned of what the pair had planned and chewed jamie out over the phone
01:02:56
saying that his daughter didn't love him he then passed the phone to janelle who confirmed what her father had said
01:03:06
although jaime agreed to stop talking to janelle she called him days later she said she
01:03:13
loved him and wanted to keep their secret relationship going they went back to their old ways
01:03:23
when jamie's mother passed away in may 2011 he received a call from barbara potter
01:03:30
expressing her condolences jaime was his mother's caregiver and the loss hit him hard
01:03:38
for the first time barbara showed jaime compassion and told him to call her if he ever
01:03:44
needed anything she also invited him around for dinner the potters continued to show jaime
01:03:53
kindness hosting him on holidays and allowing him to visit it had taken years but jamie curd had
01:04:01
finally been accepted by buddy and barbara potter buddy took him out shooting and barbara
01:04:10
treated him to homemade cake though things were never at the point where jaime could openly date janelle
01:04:18
he never pressed the matter in fear they would shun him again and he wouldn't be able to see janelle
01:04:24
at all his desire to see her ensured he remained loyal to the family and did everything
01:04:31
they asked barbara and janelle brought jamie up to speed on the hassles they were having with the mean girls
01:04:41
they believed they were targeting janelle due to jealousy over how pretty she was
01:04:48
jaime wasn't on facebook and didn't care much for social media so janelle forwarded him the threatening
01:04:54
messages her enemies sent her jaime was shocked at the nasty abuse being hurled at janelle
01:05:02
especially as janelle was such an innocent and gentle person he was still working with bill but
01:05:10
tensions were rising between the two jamie was deeply in love with janelle and took the potter's side of the feud
01:05:18
against his cousin it got bad enough that their employer had to assign them to different chefs
01:05:28
now that she had accepted him as a family friend barbara began to write long rambling
01:05:34
emails to jamie they were always about how her family was being targeted for attack
01:05:42
the emails sometimes ran over 10 pages long jamie began visiting the potter residence more frequently
01:05:55
each time barbara would have monopolised the conversation with rants about the mean girls janelle
01:06:02
remained silent during these discussions jamie noted that when she spoke to him on the phone
01:06:10
janelle was opinionated but around her parents she acted needy and childlike barbara characterized the feud as like a
01:06:21
war janelle had often come home in tears with tales of plots to harm kidnap and rape her and to hurt her
01:06:30
family barbara demanded to know what jamie and buddy were going to do about it despite buddy being the armed to the
01:06:43
teeth ex-cia agent jamie was more afraid of barbara he would walk on eggshells around her in
01:06:51
fear his house visits would be revoked he listened to her tirades and nodded and agreed
01:06:59
hoping it would earn him an invitation to dinner or even a family outing soon jaime began receiving emails from
01:07:10
chris he expressed concern that janelle would be hospitalized due to the stress and feared she was suicidal
01:07:20
jamie responded i think that if it wasn't for us she might have thought about it i can
01:07:28
tell she has just taken all she can take from those [ __ ] they won't let up and they're crazy
01:07:35
hell i don't know why they have to do this jamie was led to believe he too was in
01:07:44
grave danger chris warned him that the cia had since discovered that billie jean
01:07:51
was urging bill to kill jamie because he sided with the potters should jaime defend himself
01:07:59
chris assured him i've got your back jamie like barbara and buddy never questioned why
01:08:09
all the correspondence he had with chris was through accounts owned by janelle when janelle let it slip to jaime that
01:08:22
she was going to have to start calling lindsay thomas again she got real defensive and wouldn't say
01:08:29
anything else about it the remark fell by the wayside and no one pressed her for the truth of the
01:08:36
matter by then the potters had reached breaking point barbara wrote to jaime they are trying
01:08:46
to kill janelle little by little but doc says that at this rate it could happen any time with a heart attack or stroke
01:08:55
the stress has to stop she said the attacks would not end until we're all dead or gone and that chris
01:09:05
had told her the cops are behind billie jean more than anyone bill payne was sick of
01:09:14
the drama he continued to try and smooth things over with the potters he told them that janelle was lying to
01:09:23
them as well as the rest of the world but they were having none of it leave us alone barbara yelled at bill
01:09:32
if you call here again i'm going to do something about it as barbara chris buddy and jamie talked
01:09:42
about what needed to be done it became clear that there was only one solution the group believed janelle's tormentors
01:09:51
were never going to stop unless they were made to stop it was getting late on january 30 2012
01:10:04
when jaime kurd's phone rang it was barbara potter she had a bill that needed to be paid
01:10:12
online by midnight and claimed her computer was locking up and preventing her from doing so
01:10:20
jaime headed to the potter house to help out buddy entered the computer room while
01:10:26
jaime was in there alone he wanted jaime to do him a favor buddy asked to jaime to take him down
01:10:36
next to poor bill's house let him out go down the road and come back and pick him up
01:10:44
he didn't say when but jaime agreed not long after jaime got back home janelle called him to tell him
01:10:54
but he needed his help to do something he then got a text message from janelle that read
01:11:02
i would not take your cell phone with you in the morning jamie replied i'm not going to
01:11:12
the text message is finished with janelle writing i love you my husband in the early hours of the following
01:11:23
morning jamie's home phone rang it stopped before he could reach it the caller id showed that the call had
01:11:32
come from the potter residence he tried to call back but there was no answer it was 4 25 am but janelle was awake
01:11:45
she sent jamie a text instructing him to call back but he answered and asked if jaime could
01:11:53
do that favor for him that morning jaime agreed and moments later janelle sent him
01:12:01
several messages in rapid succession saying her father was leaving and telling jaime to text as soon as he
01:12:09
got back the sun hadn't yet risen when buddy's black ford f-250 pulled up jamie left his cell behind as janelle
01:12:21
had instructed and climbed into the vehicle the two men drove to a parking lot across a field
01:12:29
from poor bill's house they waited until they saw the headlights of a pickup truck cut through
01:12:36
the darkness signifying that poor bill had left for work buddy motioned for jamie to follow him
01:12:46
and started across the field on foot they hid behind a shed out the back of the house
01:12:53
where jaime told buddy that if bill saw them all hell's gonna break loose buddy handed jamie a gun while keeping
01:13:03
another for himself jaime looked down at the weapon a chill running down his spine
01:13:12
i couldn't kill no one he told the older man buddy responded that he just needed
01:13:20
jaime to stand at that door jamie had never seen buddy like this before it was as if his cia training had kicked
01:13:31
in and he was a man on a mission the pair entered through the rear sliding glass door
01:13:39
which was as usual unlocked jaime stood guard as ordered while buddy strode down the hallway and entered the
01:13:48
first bedroom jamie heard his cousin utter the last words he would ever say what the hell billie jean
01:13:59
fled from the room as a gunshot rang out moments later buddy emerged and looked at jamie
01:14:08
jamie pointed down the hallway where billie jean had run to buddy took off in that direction
01:14:17
jamie left his post to look inside the first bedroom and saw his cousin lying on the bed
01:14:24
blood pooling around him when jamie heard another gunshot he ran from the house back to buddy's
01:14:32
truck buddy was not far behind jamie returned his gun to him before buddy dropped him off at the end of his
01:14:42
driveway where jaime promptly threw up a short while later jamie received a text
01:14:51
from cia agent chris that said the problem was over a year and a half after the murders of
01:15:03
bill payne and billie jean hayworth agent scott lot arrived at johnston memorial hospital in virginia
01:15:11
barbara potter was inside she was looking after daughter janelle who had been hospitalized for one of her
01:15:19
many ailments officers charged barbara with two counts of first-degree murder and conspiracy to commit first-degree
01:15:28
murder in a twist that many saw coming janelle was charged with the same offences
01:15:38
despite jaime kurd and buddy and barbara potter playing a part investigators had little doubt that
01:15:45
jenelle potter was the mastermind behind the double homicide catfishing refers to a form of deception
01:15:55
wherein a person creates a fake persona online in order to form a relationship with
01:16:01
another person motivations vary and include financial gain to compromise or upset the victim in
01:16:09
some way or wish fulfillment usually the catfisher doesn't know the person they are fooling
01:16:16
outside the internet other times it is someone well known to the clueless victim
01:16:26
when they spoke of cia agent chris jamie barbara and buddy did so believing he was
01:16:34
a very real person who was exactly as he portrayed himself to be the trio trusted chris certain he was an
01:16:43
old friend of janelle's despite never having met him themselves the chris they knew however was a
01:16:52
catfish several factors could have contributed to them not seeing through the deception whether it was
01:17:02
their level of education their naivety their inability to think critically or just tunnel vision with the feud at
01:17:10
no point did anyone who spoke online with chris ever question his identity no one noticed that chris's spelling
01:17:20
grammar and punctuation was similar to someone they spoke to daily for years there were some
01:17:28
differences chris would rant and curse and wish pain and death janelle on the other hand hated cursing
01:17:36
and her writing was always sweet and loving with no threats of violence yet it was clear as day to investigators
01:17:45
examining the pages upon pages of communications published by chris he was janelle potter
01:17:55
janelle had invented the online persona of chris masquerading as him she was able to
01:18:02
manipulate her mother to convince her gullible father and boyfriend to murder her enemies
01:18:09
as chris jenelle pressured her parents to act chris wrote to barbara that bill payne
01:18:17
was spreading rumors that buddy was involved in drug dealing and had plans to kill janelle
01:18:24
others including janelle's foes failed to convince the potters that their daughter was lying about what was really
01:18:31
going on bill payne once provided buddy potter a two-inch thick folder of documents that proved janelle
01:18:40
was the aggressor janelle's social media had never been hacked and that there was no bounty on the
01:18:48
potter's heads bill even tried to impress upon jaime that janelle was behind many of the usernames fueling the online
01:18:57
hostilities he even doubted that chris was a real person despite this jaime barbara and buddy
01:19:08
wouldn't allow themselves to think of janelle as anything else but an innocent and sweet person
01:19:17
it took almost a year but janelle's incessant emails and messages had the intended effect her mother
01:19:26
father and boyfriend were all willing to kill for her and they did she had washed her hands of her
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involvement there was plenty of evidence of chris explicitly expressing a desire to kill
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janelle's rivals but there was no evidence of her ever making such requests but her deception didn't stop there
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she also authored many of the abusive social media messages and emails she claimed were from her
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harassers janelle was nothing if not prolific in her writing she orchestrated an intricate web of
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deceit to paint herself as a victim and elicit sympathy most other people who observed the
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online bickering noticed the patterns in the posts by those who jumped in to defend
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janelle and it was obvious they were all one person it was only after he had committed murder for the
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woman he loved that jaime was embarrassed and ashamed to admit that he had been played
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he wondered if jenelle had ever loved him at all or if she simply saw him as a means to
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get what she wanted buddy potter was tried alone in october 2013. the prosecution described him as someone
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who was cold enough calculating enough and trained enough to be able to conduct murders like that
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before saying at least he thinks he is he likes to tell people he's that kind of person
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he likes for his family to think he's that kind of person the truth was that buddy potter was
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never a part of the cia though he managed to convince his family otherwise he also lied about being in the military
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the potters had left their previous town in shame after buddy was convicted of stolen
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valor although dozens of firearms had been seized from the potter household the gun used to kill the victims hadn't
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been found however an expert testified that loose unspent rounds found in buddy's truck
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matched the rounds found at the crime scene the jury also got to listen to recorded
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phone calls between buddy and barbara including one in which barbara said i got rid of it all i got rid of the
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junk after three hours of deliberating the jury found marvin buddy potter jr guilty of
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two counts of murder in the first degree buddy remained stoic as the verdict was
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read just as he had been throughout the trial as tennessee law requires a murder one
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conviction to automatically carry one life sentence per count buddy would have to serve
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two life sentences afterwards the prosecution queried the jurors about what they thought of the
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testimony and importantly how they felt about the culpability of barbara and janelle potter the feedback
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they got was that the women were every bit as guilty as buddy even if they didn't pull the trigger
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janelle jamie and barbara were set to face trial on two counts of first-degree murder and
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conspiracy to commit first-degree murder barbara also faced the charge of tampering with evidence thanks to her
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ill-fated attempt to shred the emails and photos the three would be tried together
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then in early 2015 assistant district attorney dennis brooks received a call from jaime's attorney
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jaime was prepared to cooperate with the state if it meant having a shot at freedom
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he provided a full confession detailing from the moment buddy asked him to do him a favor to
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when jaime was dropped off home after buddy executed bill payne and billie jane hayworth
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in return for agreeing to testify against the potter women jaime was tried separately with the
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lesser charge of facilitation of first degree murder he pleaded guilty and was sentenced to
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25 years with the possibility of applying for parole in seven and a half years as he had already served over half of
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that his first parole hearing occurred in november 2015. the victims families all opposed parole
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with assistant district attorney dennis brooks saying it would be a slap in the face of
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justice for jaime kurd to be released so early in his sentence parole was denied with jaime eligible to
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try again at a later date in may 2015 the potter women went to trial grey-haired barbara entered court each
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day in a wheelchair while her daughter dressed demurely assistant district attorney dennis
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brooks opened with the statement this is going to be the stupidest thing you've ever heard
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this is going to be the craziest thing you've ever heard there is nothing in your lives or
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background that has prepared you to understand the potter family you have never seen
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anybody like them even with the jaime now the prosecution's star witness there was no smoking gun
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in the pages upon pages of online correspondence neither barbara nor janelle outright
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demanded that buddy and jaime go out and kill the defense argued that jaime kurd who
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had the know-how and access to the potter's computer was behind the murders and online
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personas the defense maintained that jaime was upset because he'd lost his drinking buddy
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when bill payne became involved with billie jean hayworth and that he wanted janelle's parents out
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of the way so he could have janelle to himself the defense pointed out that jaime had
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every opportunity to stop the murders but he didn't janelle's attorney called the state's argument
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smoke and mirrors and told the jury the state will have you believe that janelle potter
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coerced to jaime kurd a man eight to ten years older than her to complete these acts some feet
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when janelle potter operated on the level of an eight or nine year old he also cautioned the jury to remember
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that it's not illegal to spew hate into vitriol over the internet in an apparent
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admission that his client had done just that the witness who offered the most insight
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into janelle potter was her estranged older sister christy christy's childhood was relatively
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normal but janelle with all her difficulties received the bulk of their parents attention
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christy noted that her parents coddled her little sister always taking care of any issues she
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faced including those that were of her own making sought attention by making false health
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claims such as that she had cancer at other times she would collapse dramatically in the
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hallways waiting for people to notice and make a fuss over her janelle's inability to reason meant that
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she was unable to understand when other kids were joking she took things too seriously and in ways the other party
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did not intend as a result janelle had trouble making friends and would often get into disagreements
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and conflicts her parents would step in and either smooth things over or threatened the other party until they
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backed down in middle school a dispute between janelle and another girl went all the
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way to court janelle claimed the girl had punched her because janelle was too pretty buddy and barbara drummed
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into janelle how different she was and gushed that this made her special and better than other kids
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over time christy came to believe that her little sister's disabilities were quote not as bad as everybody else said
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they were she felt pushed to the sidelines as her parents were consumed with loving and
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protecting their favored daughter janelle she mostly attributed her troubled childhood and strained familial
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relationships with her mother christie eventually moved out and severed tyres with
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her family she felt that janelle manipulated and deceived other people for her own hands
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especially their parents a psychologist told the jury the allegation that jenelle is in some
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way a mastermind or a manipulator or a planner i think really flies in the face of the
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facts which go back and say that she is functioning basically as a fourth grader when the prosecution
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then asked can a nine-year-old be manipulative the psychologist responded nine-year-olds manipulate their parents
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all the time [Music] barbara and janelle potter were found to guilty on all charges
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both women were sentenced to two life sentences one for each count of first degree
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murder unlike buddy who had remained impassive when his sentence was read out barbara and janelle erupted into
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dramatic tears barbara at 64 would die in prison janelle at 35 would be in her 80s before
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being eligible for parole the relatives of bill and billie jean were even more emotional this time
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than they were when buddy had been convicted everyone in town knew what a menace
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janelle was and how she had been the cause of so much drama hatred and angst over the years
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few had been confident that she would be made to pay for her crimes let alone a murder conviction their
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relief was overwhelming bill payne's mother told the press we're still hurting we'll always be
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hurting you know bill couldn't call me on mother's day she also had a parting shot for barbara
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potter referencing one of the emails that had been read out in court she said barbara
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you wanted to know if you'd go to hell yeah you're going to hell and if i have to forgive any of you to stay out of
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hell i'll see you there shortly after the trials television program 2020 did a show about the case called
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unfriended both barbara and janelle who were serving their sentences in the same
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prison were interviewed on camera they continued to deny any involvement in the murders
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barbara said jaime kurd had authored all the damning emails using her name i'm not that kind of person she insisted
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i'm not evil she believed that she would go to heaven with a clean conscience janelle used a tactic that had always
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served her well with her parents when the interviewer confronted her with evidence that she was chris
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she sobbed loudly and cried no no no until her lawyer ended the interview agent scott lot was also interviewed and
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was at a pains to distance the case from the narrative that it was all about social media
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he believed a much more common motive was the true answer janelle poddar had an unrequited crush
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on bill payne and was furious that it hadn't been reciprocated he said it wasn't befriending on
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facebook it was a jealousy issue and someone with too much time on her hands [Music]
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the sentiment in mountain city is that the potter women had manipulated the impressionable
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desperate and lonely jaime kurd to do something he would never normally do before meeting the potters jaime had a
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no prior history of violence and no criminal history in his book on the case too pretty to
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live assistant district attorney dennis brooks expressed some sympathy for the man who had become
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the pawn of a jealous controlling and vindictive girl and her overprotective parents
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he wrote had the potters not come into jaime's life he would have gone to his grave without
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a single incident as a violent criminal i truly believed that online janelle potter often wrote about
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her love for her parents she put them down as her heroes adding i have the best mama and daddy in the
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world they have really been there for me and they are great people i'm so lucky i am blessed with them
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