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Unseen killers begin their reign of terror (Part 1/3)

November 19, 2018 / 01:23:39

This episode covers the Moors Murders, focusing on Myra Hindley and Ian Brady, their backgrounds, and the horrific crimes they committed in the 1960s.

The episode begins by describing the Saddleworth Moor in Greater Manchester, England, and its dark history linked to the infamous Moors Murders. It details the early lives of Myra Hindley and Ian Brady, highlighting their troubled childhoods and the factors that shaped their personalities.

Listeners learn about Hindley's relationship with her family, her early jobs, and her eventual meeting with Brady at Mill Woods merchandising company. The episode discusses their intense and toxic relationship, which was marked by a shared fascination with violence and crime.

The narrative progresses to the planning and execution of their first murder, that of 16-year-old Pauline Reade, and the subsequent murder of 12-year-old John Kilbride. The episode provides chilling details of their methods and the psychological manipulation involved in their crimes.

The episode concludes with the aftermath of the murders, including the search for the victims and the couple's attempts to cover their tracks, leading to their eventual capture.

TLDR

The episode details the Moors Murders by Myra Hindley and Ian Brady, exploring their backgrounds and the horrific crimes they committed in the 1960s.

Episode

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[Music] this story involves crimes against children at times when putting this one
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together I just had to get up and walk away that's a horrible story so please keep that in mind before continuing the
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Moors in England have been a matter of interest and discussion ever since their immortalization in Emily Bronte's
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Wuthering Heights where thou er described as never-ending wild and even maddening in Thomas Hardy's Tess of the
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d'Urbervilles he chose the English Moors as a metaphor for fear ignorance and savagery the
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Saddleworth Moor is an area covering 400 square miles in the Peak District of North West England more widely known as
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Greater Manchester Saddleworth Moor is a rich mixture of sweeping valleys hills and plateaus falling away to fast
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flowing streams rocky formations jut out of the blanketed dense peat grass that covers the area the soil is poor and so
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only the hardiest of vegetation survives standing at 1312 feet above sea level thick morning fog appears like clout
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barely lifting from the ground the eerie stillness and silence is deafening its immensity is both daunting as well as
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fascinating however in the 1960s the Moors came to the world's attention in a very different frightening light they
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became the scene for some of the most notorious and sadistic crimes committed in Britain the infamous Moors Murders
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[Music] Myra Hindley was born on the 23rd of July 1942 her mother Nellie was 22 years
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old at the time her father Bob wasn't home for the birth he was fighting in the Second World War
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after Mira's birth Nellie moved in with her mother Ellen Ellen lived in Gorton an area of the city of Manchester in
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northwest England Ellen became affectionately known as gran tomorrow Nellie and Mayra lived
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with Grand until the war ended in 1945 and Bob Hindley returned home Bob and Nellie moved into a house in the same
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street as gran after returning from the war Bob lost his job and suffered of limp after
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participating in street fights for money from that moment on Bob spent most of his time in pubs and when he returned
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home drunk he'd often hit Nellie mara would come to despise her father for this on the 21st of August 1946 a new
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baby was born into the family Mira's sister Maureen Hindley not long after Marines birth gran
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suggested Myra moving with her bob was against the move but ended up agreeing on the condition that Myra would still
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return home for meals the two houses were in sight of each other mara was genuinely happy with the change
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since there was no violence at Gran's house plus her grandmother spoiled her whenever she had the chance tomorrow
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later stated any good in me comes from my gran in 1947 at the age of five Mayra started school gran walked her to
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peacock Street primary three minutes away from there council home in Gorton until she was 7 Mara was then allowed to
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walk to and from school on her own as a young girl others perceived Mara as bossy in one schoolyard incident a boy
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scratched his nails on Myra's face this resulted in Mara approaching her father Bob and asking him to teach her how to
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fight Bob gave her some pointers and then sent Mara to look for the boy that scratched her
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Maira found him whacked him and left him crying when she told her father he responded by ruffling her hair and
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telling her he was proud of her from that moment on my revoir to defend not only herself in the
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streets of Gorton but other children who needed protection as well as she grew up
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she developed a love for reading her favorite book was the secret garden by Frances burnett her favorite school
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subject was english where she got to write and read poetry she penned three essays that got read aloud in class and
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one of them was bound and placed at the school's library the Hindley's were seen
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as a respectable family in Gorton as a teenager myra and a friend babysat children in the neighborhood the two
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girls bought chocolate for the children and even took them to the movies when myra was fifteen a close friend of hers
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Michael drowned in an unused reservoir he was 13 they had become close after Michael got bullied and Morris stood up
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for him she wasn't there when the accident happened and she always believed that if she had been there she
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would have been able to save him that same year Marah left school and began working she started off in a
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temper position with a catalogue company in Manchester's Center where Shanley lasted two weeks after that she got a
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job at Lawrence Scott manufacturing Marah did like typing ran errands and prepared tea for the other staff in the
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beginning she developed a good relationship with the other workers but after she received her first week's pay
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she lost it and went to work looking sullen feeling sorry for her the other employees all chipped in some money and
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even gave her a little more than she lost to make her feel better they were far from impressed when Myra walked into
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work not long after saying she had lost her pay again many turned against her one of the women who remained close to
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Myra at work invited her to a flat and changed her hair color she bleached it Myra loved it and from that moment on
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she chose to stay blonde in the summer of 1958 at the age of sixteen myra committed to the catholic
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church and received her first prayer book from her Auntie Myra started dating boys but maintained her religious
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beliefs and was against sex before marriage by the end of 1958 she had a first steady boyfriend and started doing
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all of the housework herself as practice for running her own home at the start of
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1959 Lawrence Scott had financial difficulties and as a result Myra was made redundant
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she was only unemployed for a short time she started work after it closed the old
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furniture shop in Gorton as a junior typist but the wages were poor Mira's grandmother from her father's side
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worked at the Bellevue amusement park and she was able to get Myra work there in the catering department in February
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1960 Mara left that job for another typist job however she hated that and almost immediately started looking for
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other work on her 18th birthday her boyfriend Ronnie proposed Myra was excited and happily showed off her
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engagement ring to family and friends her mother Nellie wasn't thrilled though she didn't want Myra to marry her first
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boyfriend she wanted her to enjoy the years of her youth it wasn't long before Myra started to have doubts too
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firstly she looked at her mother and thought of her as a downtrodden wife with a boring domestic role she later
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stated I wanted my mother to stand up for herself but she was weak and allowed daddy to bully her I hated that secondly
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Myra started criticizing Ronnie her description of him was quote boring and mundane he cared a lot about me which
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mattered but he didn't like dancing and we spent most of our time at stock races
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which was his hobby apart from that Myra couldn't get past the permanent grease underneath his
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fingernails as it reminded her of the working class and especially of her father
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thirdly Mara looked at the people around her and said quote when I began to witness many of my friends and neighbors
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some of whom had to get married having baby after baby almost tied to the kitchen sink and struggling to make ends
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meet while their husbands went out every night drinking and betting away their wages just as my father had done I began
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to feel uncomfortable and restless in the end Mara decided a very few men could be trusted and that the women she
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knew had been trapped into family life with no money and no freedom Myra started thinking about leaving and
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working abroad either as a nanny or entertaining in holiday camps but she couldn't go through with it she loved
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her family and believed that if she shared her thoughts they think she was getting above herself so she decided to
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stay put and not share with anyone what she was really thinking she considered her sister Maureen to be her best friend
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Maureen copied Mira's thought of dress the two of them were extremely close it was in December 1960 the Mara's life
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would change forever a friend of hers pointed out an advert for a job at Mill Woods merchandising
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company Myra applied and secured an interview Mel Woods was in a large detached house they supplied chemicals
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mostly to the cotton industry when Myra arrived the head of the firm greeted her
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and set her up in a small room where she was given a typing test and then an interview after which Mara was offered a
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job since it was still early afternoon she was invited to meet the rest of the staff members including her new boss Tom
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Tom shared an office with two other men one was an older clerk who kindly introduced himself to Mara
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the second was a stock clerk Ian Brady Ian Brady was born on the 2nd of January 1938 in Glasgow Scotland his birth name
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was Ian Duncan Stewart his mother was Maggie Stuart 28 years old Maggie never revealed much about Ian's father other
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than stating he was a journalist who died three months before Anne's birth alien didn't hear anything further about
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his father not his name or where he was from the only detail he found out later was that he might not have died and
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could have moved to Australia before Anne's birth Maggie had been living with a friend after his birth she found her
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own room to rent and wanted to return to her old job of waitressing but she couldn't find anyone to take care of him
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despite her struggles Maggie initially refused to give an up for adoption but after four months Mary
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felt there was no other option and decided to find a foster family she came across Mary Sloane a 34 year old cotton
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mill worker who offered her home - Ian she was married to John Sloane and they had four children of their own already
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they lived in a two-bedroom flat we've shared washing facilities and an outside toilet the Sloane's were poor but were
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regarded by those who knew them as a warm and respectable family Ian loved them and called Mary his MA John his
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path and to their children his brothers and sisters Maggie still visited in every Sunday she introduced herself to
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him as Peggy but it didn't take him long to figure out that she was his birth mother Maggie always bought him gifts
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and clothes spoiling him whenever she could in the middle of the Second World War
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1941 aan was three and a clawed Bank where he lived became one of the most attacked areas in the UK but according
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to Ian he wasn't scared far from it he says he remembers the event fondly stating he found the sound
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of exploding missiles thrilling at the age of five Ian started a Kemp and Street primary a few blocks from his
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flat he did well academically especially in English where he won an award and got
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praised for his meticulous style of writing socially his recollections very alien
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once describe to those school years as quote the best period of my life I was not the stereotypical loner friends
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formed round me eagerly in the school playground apparently I had a descriptive talent and contagious
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enthusiasm but he has also said quote the child's gains in the playground seemed futile to me and I stood alone at
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the edge of the crowds never fitting in one memory that didn't vary though was when his Sunday school teacher asked all
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the children in the class if they believed in God and day in nervously said for the first time no a close
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childhood friend who lived in the flat below the Sloane's remembered an as someone who always carried a flick knife
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and someone who could be very violent he recalls one particular incident he once
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tied me to a steel washing post heaped in newspapers around my legs and set fire to them I can still remember
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feeling dizzy with the smoke before I blacked out he added that all of the kids he hung around were rough back then
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but Ian was by far the worst Ian acquired a love for animals while living with the slides
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he started off being cruel towards them until one day he came across a fallen horse in the street it had a broken leg
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and Ian couldn't stop looking at the suffering in the animal's eyes he ended up so distressed at the sight that he
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ran home crying the entire way after that the Sloane's bought a dock and Ian couldn't have loved that anymore
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it was at this point in time that Ian started preferring animals to people in 1947 when Ian was 9 years old the entire
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Sloan family went for a picnic to Loch Lomond and saw for the first time what an open
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vast scenery looked like quote confronting a see armoire or standing on a mountain you can almost hear the
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unknown invisible presences you know they are there almost within touch speaking in archaic language and you
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feel the power rise up within as you become a receiver you feel a surge of ultimate energy and power that makes you
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laugh with pure delight or cry with gratitude when the Sloane's had packed everything up and were ready to head
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back home they found a in steaming on one of the hills staring off in the distance captivated that same year there
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was a slum clearance program in Clydebank families were examined before being allocated new homes the Sloane's
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were resettled in a 3-bedroom semi-detached house with a garden and indoor bathroom in what was considered a
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select estate in Pollock they had woods nearby as well as the river cart ian couldn't have been happier with the
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move and two loved working in the garden the one downside was that his mother's visits became less frequent since she
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had been dating an ex Army soldier Patrick Brady Maggie started by skipping Sunday visits
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and then when Patrick had to move to Manchester for work she went with him and didn't see him anymore at all she
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kept in contact solely through letters at the age of 12 Ian started at shoreland Academy a
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secondary school where students were mostly from wealthy families but authorities had just made a new wing to
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add children from the working class Ian came under notice almost immediately for
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reading many books about the Nazis he talked about the Nazi Party constantly and when he played war games with the
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other children he insisted on being a German and giving the Nazi salute he also started collecting Nazi memorabilia
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and told the other boys who had brothers in the army to bring him back anything they could from Germany
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in 1950 maggie married Patrick Brady her and Ian had fallen out of contact almost
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completely at this point and he didn't attend her wedding in Manchester choosing instead to go on holidays with
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the Sloane's upon returning to guys go after holidays Ian did his first break-in he claimed he didn't take
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anything and only looked around the house but soon after his first break-in he joined a gang and continued to break
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into houses taking money and whatever else he could find in May 1951 Ian ended up in juvenile court they placed him on
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probation for two years he was 13 a little over a year later Ian was back in juvenile court on a new housebreaking
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charge he was given more probation time when he was 15 he left school and worked
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as a butchers assistant before moving on to the British railway as an engine cleaner later becoming an apprentice
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Plato but he didn't last there and continued jumping from job to job because none of them engaged him on an
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intellectual level yet he liked working as in his words it allowed him to accumulate working capital ian had a
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girlfriend when he was 15 but the relationship came to an end when he saw her dancing with another boy he pulled
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out his flick knife and threatened her with it when he was 16 he was back before the court charged with
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housebreaking and theft the Sloane's believed that he'd be sent to prison this time but Ian's probation officer
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offered another solution deporting him the following month December 1954 a.m. travelled by train to Manchester and his
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birth mother Maggie who a.m. hadn't seen in six years was waiting for him at Victoria Station
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Ian immediately took his stepfathers last name officially becoming AM Brady the three of them Maggie
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Patrick and Ian lived in moss side Ian developed a good relationship with Patrick they both shared a love for
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racing and betting sitting together to listen to the radio to see if they would want anything a neighbour in Mossad
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described Ian as mostly shy and polite he appeared kind and respectful towards his mother but he was heard to make
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racist remark about black residents living in the neighborhood he also seemed to carry
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around more money than he should despite developing a relationship with his stepfather a in Miss Scotland Bailey
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and would often return to visit the Sloane's on the 9th of November 1955 a year after being deported from Scotland
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ian was charged with stealing 44 pounds of lead seals from banana boxes he was working as an errand boy at a fruit
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market at the time and a driver are stayin to help him stock all of the led into his truck and helped him and the
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driver sold the led to a scrap dealer but the dealer called the place and when questioned the truck driver implicated
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Ian at Manchester Crown Court and pleaded guilty believing he'd only be given a fine he was actually sentenced
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to two years at a borstal which were reformatory centres run by the Prison Service for offenders under the age of
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23 they have since been described as a breeding ground for bullies and Psychopaths at this point
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Ian found it difficult to connect emotionally with anybody he started seeing others only as people he could
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manipulate to his own benefit he only became friends with inmates that he thought would be useful to him on the
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outside to help commit crimes on the 10th of January 1956 Ian was transferred to Hatfield borstal a former army
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training camp for boys of better than average intelligence with a relatively light criminal record it was located 112
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kilometers from Manchester Ian was given a psychiatric examination and was deemed
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unfit for national service Ian used these time running a betting syndicate and selling alcohol after
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getting drunk and attacking a warden he was expelled and transferred to a harsher borstal located within whole
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prison even further away from Manchester and spent two years at Hull he was given
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training in bookkeeping after the authorities discovered he had a talent with numbers
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well he wasn't bookkeeping Ian was making plans to rob banks when he got out he continued making contacts with
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inmates he thought would be useful in helping him to carry out his criminal plans on the outside he stated gradually
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I began to adopt a more studious professional attitude towards crime my instinctive form of relativism developed
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into a pragmatic philosophy I began to choose my followers on the 14th of November 1957 at the age of 19
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Ian was released he went back to Magnus house in Manchester Maggie had been trying hard to convince the neighbors
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and had simply fallen in with the wrong crowd after his release Ian still acted shy and quiet and the
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girls in the neighbourhood started seeing him as someone attractive dark and mysterious Am bounced around several
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different jobs and moved house several times with Maggie and Patrick they eventually settled an 18 West Moreland
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Road long sight and in a City area of Manchester they in visited long sight library regularly and started reading
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different books that would stick with him for years to come one of them was Crime and Punishment by Fyodor
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Dostoevsky which tells the story of Raskolnikov who rationalizes murder and suggests that a man has the right to
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decide whether to kill or not another favorite of aliens was the work of marquis de sade whose books considered
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murder a pleasure to experience in advance Don Taneatua among many others and finished with a strong conclusion
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quote a killer is attracted and stimulated by the excitement of challenging the norm of stepping into
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forbidden territory like a solitary Explorer consciously thirsting to experience that which the majority has
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not and dare not Ian started work as a stock clerk at Mill Woods merchandising company in February 1959 he was seen as
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neat punctual and usually polite although he was known to throw a tantrum if he lost a board game during the lunch
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break most of the time though he kept quiet usually ate egg and cheese sandwiches for lunch and sat on his own
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while reading books such as teach yourself German or Hitler's Mein Kampf although he had made big plans to commit
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crimes while at the borstal and even made connections with people he thought could help he didn't take any steps to
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make those plans a reality once he got out then he met Myra Hindley when Myra Hindley first saw Ian Brady she felt
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rooted to the spot quote I can only describe my reaction as an immediate and fatal attraction although I had no
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inkling then of just our fatal that would turn out to be he gave no indication that he noticed me appearing
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to be the strong silent type I was determined I would make him notice me a few of the physical details that caught
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her attention where his dark hair deep blue eyes fresh complexion and his well manicured fingernails which he felt were
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in stark contrast to her boyfriend erroneous who always had grease under his nails
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the day after her job interview at Mill woods Hindley went out with friends and gushed to them about Brady she compared
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him to the ultimate idols back then Elvis and James Dean the first step Hindley took to get Brady to notice her
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was to put extra care into her appearance she started working at Mill woods on the 16th of January 1961
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and from that first day she showed up early looking her best she didn't share an office with Brady but she saw him
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regularly at lunch breaks Brady seemed too busy playing board games or reading the Racing guides to
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notice her Hindley didn't see what others saw she never saw Brady throwing tantrums when losing games
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she thought he always seemed calm and collected she did hear him shouting on the phone if he lost at the races but
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that seemed understandable she also heard him talking to other colleagues about the books he read but as much as
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Henley noticed him Brady didn't seem to notice her at all hinder Lee's next step
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was to break off her engagement to her boyfriend Ronny she explained to a friend he was too childish and they
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weren't even saving money for the marriage Ronny couldn't believe the news and ranked Mill words constantly trying to
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convince him Lee to get back with him into his boss Tom ended up having to warn Ronnie to stop calling or he'd send
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the police for a period of almost an entire year Brady didn't notice Hindley the way she wanted him till he said
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there was a year of emotional torture which I've never experienced before I went from loving him to hating him and
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loving and hating him at the same time when he smiled at me or was nice to me I felt blessed and floated on him Ian was
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older and seemed wiser than me so cultured so exciting and different from others
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hindley found some similarities between Brady and her father Bob stating that they both had strong dominant
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personalities and that since her father ignored her she wasn't going to let that
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happen again with Brady six months after starting work at Mill Woods he really began he keeping a diary she kept that
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locked in her desk drawer in the diary Hindley kept a close record of Brady if he spoke to her what he said or if he
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ignored her how that made her feel she filled it with information about Brady and even concluded that he might not be
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interested in women at all one day she eavesdropped on a conversation Brady was having with a bookie and she found out
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his address hindley walked to Brady's Street and passed his house hoping to cross paths with him but she
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didn't she even hung out at a pub on the corner of his Street hoping you would go
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drinking met but she never saw him after this Hindley wrote new entries in her diary she would write she was over Brady
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the next day she would write she was into him again and back and forth that went before writing I hope he loves me
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and will marry me someday in December 1961 Hindley took her final step to try and
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get Brady to notice her she visited Gorton's library and borrowed the collected works of William Wordsworth
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the next day during the lunch break at Mill woods she started reading the book near Brady who was playing chess after a
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while he walked over to ask her if the book was any good Hindoo he said it was marvellous Brady grabbed the book
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flicked through the pages and said he might borrow it himself a few days later Hindley walked into Mill woods with
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another book Songs of Innocence and experience by William Blake Brady knew the book well as he was an avid reader
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of Blake this got the conversation flowing Mill wins Christmas party was held soon
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after this he merely sat with some colleagues but kept staring at Brady who was drinking heavily Hindu Lee shipped
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her rum and coke while watching the rest of the staff pair up on the dance floor
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suddenly Brady appeared by her side and asked if she would like to dance Hindley said of course she would Brady
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kept stepping on her feet and moved awkwardly after the party Brady walked him Lee home he asked her if she'd like
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to meet with him later that evening she enthusiastically agreed when Hindley got
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home she reapplied a makeup like it her hair and two then rented the bus stop Brady had said as a meeting point they
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spent the entire evening traveling by bus going from pub to pub getting drunk they walked home since they missed the
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last bus the Gorton and when they reached him Lee's house Brady asked if he could come in until he said no as a
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grand might still be up Brady kissed her and said goodnight when they got back to work
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Brady at first acted as if nothing had happened but when he caught Hindley alone he asked if she would like to go
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to the movies Hindley agreed and described the date in her diary there was the 22nd of December 1961 and they
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saw King of Kings which was narrated by Orson Welles who and said was his favorite actor afterwards they visited a
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pub and day and started talking about his despise for religion although Hindley was still a Catholic she didn't
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argue and in fact stated that Brady convinced her all her beliefs were wrong especially when Brady asked that if God
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existed then why did he let Hindu Lee's friend Michael died when she was 15 she couldn't answer that question they went
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back to Hindu Lee's house where she lost their virginity to Brady Hindley described it as an act of semi
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violence provoked by her who first kissed Brady in an abrupt and demanding way they spent Christmas Eve together
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and Hindley wanted to go to Mass Brady flat-out refused to enter a Roman Catholic Church but agreed to go to st.
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James Anglican Church in Gorton there was a graveyard next to the church and after Mass they walked through it Brady
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suddenly took a piss at the edge of the graves scold from a bottle of whiskey he
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had under his coat and declared that's what I think of Christianity when Brady met Hindley's parents Bob
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liked him but Nelly didn't she thought it was too much like Bob back at Mill woods the older Clerk retired and Brady
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got promoted to his position so now Hindley worked for Brady and they moved into the same office Brady bought
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himself a motorbike and would stop at him Lee's house occasionally whenever he felt like it Hindley stopped going out
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with their friends so she could be at home just in case Brady visited little by little Brady revealed more of himself
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to Hindley until he eventually disclosed his entire past to her Brady wasn't affectionate to Hindley in public if
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they had a fight Brady would apologize with a gift which they called anniversary presents he
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called Hindley either kiddo or Hess after Hitler's appointed deputy Fuhrer Rudolf Hess
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Hindley caught Brady Nettie after one of the gun show characters which was one of
00:30:32
Brady's favorite shows they went to the movies often they loved spy dramas like double-oh-seven afterwards they'd return
00:30:40
to Hindley's and share a bottle of wine every night Brady would say goodnight and leave him Lee's house only to sneak
00:30:47
in a while later he did it to keep the neighbors from knowing they spent the night together but they weren't fooling
00:30:52
too many people Brady introduced his love for the Nazi Party to Hindley first he called her Hess then he bought her
00:31:01
German records taught her German words and that they would continuously listen to Hitler's inferno a compilation of
00:31:08
music marching songs and speeches from the Nuremberg rallies they hated most people immigrants were
00:31:15
referred to as sponges and filth while everyone else was referred to as maggots in morons but what they did love and
00:31:21
respect were animals they had Brady's dog Bruce and grants dog lassie who they loved dearly they'd go as far as getting
00:31:30
the Manchester Evening News looking for anyone convicted of animal cruelty and if they found someone they would either
00:31:36
damage their property or attack them physically Brady was extremely meticulous about his suits usually
00:31:44
having them tailor-made yet a classical and formal style of dress after meeting Brady
00:31:50
Hindley started changing her style of dress too she went for a more provocative look she stopped wearing
00:31:56
flat shoes and instead chose to letõs or knee-length boots along with short skirts or tight
00:32:01
trousers and a leather jacket these choices weren't accidental Hindley was trying to emulate
00:32:07
Erma grazer a German SS guard who is executed at the end of the Second World War and who Brady had a strong
00:32:15
infatuation for along with dressing in her stall Hindley also carried a photograph of
00:32:20
grazer in her handbag Hindley would take care of organizing everything when they
00:32:26
went out if they traveled by bus she got the tickets but they went to a pub she got the drinks if they wanted cigarettes
00:32:32
she got them if they went to the bookies Hindley would place the bet Brady would
00:32:37
pay but he wanted Hindley to get everything for him in Gorton they were known for never acknowledging or
00:32:43
speaking to anyone else while they were together at Mill woods their boss didn't
00:32:48
like them when they were together he described them as a surly and unsociable couple Brady's explanation of a
00:32:54
traditional relationship was as follows most people would marry breed further burden themselves by mortgage owned a
00:33:02
family car and leaving excruciating moderation and boredom till death do them part and he didn't want any of that
00:33:10
Hindley agreed with him even though she wrote in her diary that she hoped to marry Brady before dating him she now
00:33:17
went back to her initial idea of not wanting marriage or babies or a stable relationship or stable boring life
00:33:23
she said her and Brady had a good understanding of one another and we're of similar intellectual level
00:33:29
as well both cultured listen to classical music and read classical literature to her more than anything
00:33:37
what they shared was dissatisfaction with belonging to the working class and being trapped in it
00:33:43
one thing that maintained predominant in their relationship was books they would
00:33:48
often visit libraries and borrow books almost always under Hindu Lee's name along with the classical literature they
00:33:54
enjoyed they also borrowed books about murder and erotica - later roleplay scenes in their sex life Hindu Lee
00:34:01
stated Ian took the lead most times he enjoyed rough sex and light spankings became whippings he cited me in a way
00:34:09
that no other men had done before I needed to drink to perform for him or to do the things Ian wanted to do he liked
00:34:17
me to dress up like a tart for us to both wear hoods he enjoyed anal sex the most he also enjoyed having a candle
00:34:24
inserted up his backside it gave us both pleasure especially me because then I was in the dominant role she said the
00:34:33
pornography they used that didn't always arouse her but she went along with it for Brady's sake the author who remained
00:34:43
firmly as their favorite was French writer Marquis Assad whose books apart from seeing murderers pleasure also deal
00:34:50
with bestiality incest necrophilia and rape and in numerous passages these crimes are committed against children
00:34:58
his books were being in France until the late 1950s other governments from around
00:35:03
the world have also been these books Brady had a growing interest to rape and kill a child and what started as
00:35:10
discussions in bed with him duly evolved to the forming of a plan one final element that became like a third person
00:35:18
in their relationship with the Moors they visited the Moors every time they could mostly on weekends and in 1963
00:35:26
while lying on a blanket on the ground the Moors became the background for their plans committing a classic bank
00:35:33
robbery and committing the perfect murder of a child for what Brady called switching on the dark
00:35:40
Hindley stated quote I found it exciting to swim against the tide to do things that others would never dream of I just
00:35:49
don't know how much but I've always wanted something different more exciting I've never been satisfied with any
00:35:55
situation for long however what excited her was not killing people initially but
00:36:01
criminal activities such as the perfect bank robbery its planning and execution the perfect bank robbery never got any
00:36:09
further than Brady telling Hindley he would get in touch with one of the inmates he met in the borstal Brady
00:36:16
requested Hindley Reeve compulsion on my eleven to use as a blueprint for murder
00:36:21
the novel fictionalized as the murder of a 14 year old boy by two wealthy students the students believed in
00:36:29
Nietzsche's you urban inch theory where they were above other humans they were superhuman intellectually superior and
00:36:36
for that reason we're entitled to do as they wished and killed the young boy in what they thought would be the perfect
00:36:42
crime the novel was based on an actual case which took place in 1924 the case caught the attention of Brady because
00:36:50
the two killers seemed to meet in fill each other's needs lock pieces of a jigsaw puzzle
00:36:55
Brady believed this was exactly how Hindley and him work except they wouldn't make any mistakes they wouldn't
00:37:02
get caught after Hindley read the book she borrowed a black van from a neighbor who knew Hindley as a babysitter with
00:37:11
Brady sitting in the passenger seat they drove through Manchester watching children they stopped at Hindu Lee's old
00:37:17
school and Brady hid while taking pictures of schoolboys they also drove through the streets of Gorton and while
00:37:24
they were stalking several kids in Dooley tried to think of what she could say to lure a child into the van into he
00:37:31
stated quote I was considered to be good with children an excellent babysitter and able to put children at ease could I
00:37:40
therefore be considered capable of child abduction or violence towards children one part of their plan that was in no
00:37:48
doubt was that they would bury the child at the Moors they even visited the Moors
00:37:53
to rehearse Hindley said quote we used to climb up to and over the big rocks where he would
00:37:59
tell me he was going to practice carrying a body tell me to make myself as limp as possible
00:38:04
then he'd hoist me up and over his shoulder with my arms and head banging over one side and my lower body and legs
00:38:11
over the other side the blood used to rush to my head until I thought I was going to faint sometimes he would
00:38:17
stumble over a small rock or large tuft of grass and we'd both fall now a Brady quote before I met Maura it was all
00:38:25
inside me into the feeling of unreality kept me down I feared it the energy was kept in when I met her she made me feel
00:38:34
confident she believed in me and looked up to me so much that I lost thought fear ended the energy projected outwards
00:38:40
and I lost control back to a Hindu Lee quote one important aspect of our relationship was that we shared equally
00:38:49
the ability to shut down our feelings and our notions and talked of controlling the subconscious urges or
00:38:55
presenting a cold exterior disability plus the use of alcohol influenced our sexual experience and would eventually
00:39:02
influence everything in our lives we had to be able to blend into our surroundings like chameleons to exist on
00:39:09
two different places convincing others that we were normal not capable of committing crimes he taught me how to
00:39:16
conquer my emotions to do things on autopilot and to disregard the consequences I was a willing apprentice
00:39:26
Friday July 12th 1963 25 year-old Brady and 20 year-old Hindley decided it was time they went to work that day
00:39:36
finishing at 5:00 p.m. before going to hinder his house to go over their plan one more time
00:39:43
Hindley didn't have a license yet but she still drove her neighbors black bean anyway her neighbor had bought himself a
00:39:50
new car so he told him Lee she could use the van whenever she needed they agreed
00:39:55
that Hindley would drive around the streets of Gordon while Brady followed on his motorbike when Hindley saw a
00:40:01
potential victim she'd slow down if Ian approved of her choice in flashed the motorbikes
00:40:06
headlight Hindley said this about their plan he'd told me what to wear and he countered
00:40:13
the buttons on my coat he countered the buttons on his coat and jacket and shirt
00:40:18
and made a list of everything he was so methodical and precise he thought of everything every possibility
00:40:26
absolutely everything they had dinner and a little after 7:30 p.m. they left him to his place they drove slowly
00:40:35
through Taylor Street and turned right into Gorton Lane there they saw a small girl walking on her own Hindley slowed
00:40:44
down even further but sped off when she saw the girl's face it was eight-year-old Marie Rock who lived just
00:40:51
around the corner from Hindley after she sped off Brady signaled for her to stop
00:40:56
Hindley pulled over and Brady wanted to know why she hadn't picked the girl up indle he said she knew her and it was
00:41:03
too much of a risk plus an 8 year old girl going missing would bring too much heat Brady agreed
00:41:10
with him Lee and told her to drive to Ashton old road which was towards the railway line Hindley headed that
00:41:17
direction but as she turned into frocks my street from Gordon Lane she saw another girl walking on her own she knew
00:41:24
this girl as well but she was older so Hindley felt her disappearance wouldn't cause the same amount of heat as the
00:41:30
disappearance of an 8 year old Plus Emily felt that because she knew her it would be easier to get her into
00:41:36
the van Hindley pulled the van up alongside her and whispered to herself if I can do
00:41:43
this without conscience I can do anything [Music] the girl was 16 year old Pauline read
00:41:52
Pauline had gone to primary and secondary school with Maureen Hindu Lee's sister she worshiped at Saint
00:41:58
Francis where Emily had gone since she was a child until she met Brady Pauline's father was a regular at the
00:42:04
same pub as Bob and Lee's father and they often had drinks together Hindley was also friendly with poor lanes mother
00:42:10
Joan Pauline had a good relationship with her mother Joan her father Amos and her older brother Paul she had dark hair
00:42:18
and blue eyes loved dancing and composed songs and poems Pauline had kept the same tight group of friends her entire
00:42:26
life her best friend was packed Cummings they loved going to dances together and
00:42:31
would often plan to go dress the same Pat Cummings said this about her best friend Pauline she was very quiet when
00:42:39
she came to our house she would ask me to walk her home if it was dark she was very frightened she was not the sort to
00:42:45
get into a car with a stranger Pauline was a trainee Baker she worked with her father and Gordon her photograph
00:42:53
appeared in the Gordon reporter after she finished as one of three winners in a Christmas cake competition in 1962 she
00:43:00
loved her job in that Friday the 12th of July 63 she finished her shift by herself her
00:43:07
father had already left to go home for a quick nap before heading to the pub Pauline left the bakery and went to a
00:43:14
friend's house Linda she asked Linda to go to the dance of the British Railways social club that night Linda's mother
00:43:21
didn't let her since alcohol would be sold there Pauline then went to see another friend again the answer was no
00:43:28
because the alcohol would be sold Pauline returned home and asked her mother Joan if she could talk to some of
00:43:35
her friends mother's to try and persuade them so she didn't have to go to the dance alone Joan agreed and Pauline went
00:43:42
upstairs to get ready she had recently bought a twist frock which she wore along with white shoes a
00:43:48
blue coat and white gloves she put 10 shillings in her pocket and walked downstairs Joan gave her one of
00:43:55
her lockets to wear Joan didn't have any luck convincing Pauline's friends mother's so Pauline left for the dance
00:44:03
on her own she walked through Eaton Street past him Lee's parents house and when she got to Gorton Lane her best
00:44:10
friend Pat coming Sawyer Pat had heard about Pauline going to the dance and she couldn't believe she go on
00:44:17
her own since she was usually so sure Pat convinced another friend to go with her and do they decided to surprise
00:44:24
Pauline by meeting her at the dance they knew which way she would walk so we're waiting for her as she walked along
00:44:31
Gorton Lane it was just after 8:00 p.m. they followed her to frocks mystery but then Pat and her friend waited until
00:44:38
they lost sight of Pauline they then ran to the dance another way with the plan being to beat Pauline there so they
00:44:45
could surprise her at the entrance they waited for Pauline excited to surprise her but as the minutes ticked by and
00:44:52
there was no sign of her Pat decided Pauline must have chickened out coming to the dance by herself and had turned
00:44:58
around and gone home Pat no friend left in frocks mystery Hindu Lee pulled up next to Pauline and asked if she'd like
00:45:09
a lift since Paul a new Henry and her family she accepted and got into the van Hindu Lee opened the passenger door for
00:45:17
her Bradley stopped his motorbike nearby as him Lee drove off she asked Pauline if she would mind taking a quick detour
00:45:25
hindley said she had lost the glove which was of great sentimental value to her and wanted to go to the outskirts of
00:45:32
the city to try and find it she offered to give Pauline several records as a reward for her help
00:45:38
Pauline agreed and - Hinda Lee drove towards Saddleworth Moor 22 kilometres away
00:45:46
Pauline herself had actually lost one of her gloves at night just after she left
00:45:50
home her mother Joan found it when she opened the front door to let some air in after Pauline had left for the dance
00:45:57
Joan picked the garb up and placed it in a kitchen drawer she went to bed feeling
00:46:01
a lot more anxious about letting Pauline go to the dance alone on the way to settle worth more
00:46:07
Hindley couldn't stop thinking about Pauline's perfume it reminded her of the perfume she wore herself Savile's June
00:46:16
Pauline suddenly interrupted the silence between them to ask about Brady indle he said he was busy but would head
00:46:23
up to Saddleworth Moor to help look for the club when he was free the truth was he was right behind them Hindley was
00:46:31
gripping the steering wheel very tightly her knuckles were white and she was barely speaking
00:46:36
Pauline asked if she was okay indle he didn't respond when they arrived at Saddleworth Moor
00:46:44
Hindley turned off the engine and they both got out what happens next depends on whose version you go with brady's or
00:46:53
Hindley's according to Hindu Lee Brady had overtaken them before they got to the mall and was waiting for them
00:46:59
Hindley pretended to be surprised the see Brady told Hindley to move the van to a safer spot as she did so Pauline
00:47:08
walked with Brady to search for Hindley's Bluff Hindley watched as Brady and Pauline
00:47:13
walked over the rocks of the mall Pauline stumbled on the rocks and it was at that point Hindley looked away and
00:47:20
concentrated on moving the van she stayed in the van and doesn't know what happened but Brady later banged on the
00:47:27
window and told her he needed help with Pauline's body Brady totally disagrees he said Hindley
00:47:35
was with them when they walked over the rocks and - not only did Hindley see exactly what happened she joined in
00:47:42
she took an active part in a sexual assault physically beaten tortured Pauline and then snatched the locket and
00:47:50
mother had given her same you won't need that where you're going Brady claims he struck in Delhi during
00:47:57
the attack because he was horrified at her attitude and behavior his exact words were quote although I dropped to
00:48:04
the depths of depravity Myra dropped even further it is human nature that if caught the pupil will blame the master
00:48:11
for his criminal conduct but should the criminal enterprises succeed I can assure you from wide personal experience
00:48:19
the pupil zeal and devotion to criminal activities cannot do that of the master like that of a convert regardless on who
00:48:29
is telling the truth if either of them even our Hindu Lee agrees she assisted Brady after the murder she said that
00:48:37
after Brady stopped complaining about how much of a fight Pauline put up he told her to wait with her body while he
00:48:43
searched first bait he'd hidden pullings throat had been cut so deep she was almost decapitated about this specific
00:48:52
moment Hindu Lee said quote I moved this far away from her as possible hahhh stood and looked at the dark
00:48:59
outline of the rocks against the horizon of the dark sky three people died that night
00:49:05
Pauline my soul and God when Brady returned with the Spade he told Hindley to go back to the van and watch the road
00:49:14
after a while Brady joined Hindley at the van he was carrying the Spade and the knife he put
00:49:22
the Spade inside a plastic bag and placed it in the back of the van he wiped the knife on the grass and then
00:49:28
wrapped it in newspaper before putting it on the dashboard they then put Brady's motorbike in the back of the van
00:49:34
using planks of wood as a ramp hitting the motorbike in the back of the van had been part of their planning they had
00:49:41
practiced the routine many times to make sure they could do it quickly they then headed back to Gordon the time
00:49:47
was 10:30 p.m. on the way back to Gordon Hindu he says I felt doubly doomed first by the crime itself and also
00:49:57
because I believe that was impossible to Envisat your hope for any other kind of
00:50:01
existence on their way back home and they drove through Gordon Lane and saw Pauline's mother Joan and her brother
00:50:08
pour out looking for her Hindley pointed them out to Brady they reached a small farm near him to his house and parked
00:50:17
the van they took the motor bike out Brady grabbed the Spade and knife and they walked to him Lee's house Brady
00:50:24
walked through the back door and blocked the Spade and knife in a cupboard Brady then came up with a plan to get
00:50:31
rid of what he called forensic Brady compiled a list of everything they needed to do the first that was cleaning
00:50:38
the van Hindley prepared a bucket of boiling water and using a sponge Brady wiped down the inside the outside
00:50:45
and the tires when he believed it was clean enough they returned to him Lee's house
00:50:51
they placed the plastic sheet on the living-room floor in front of the fireplace and Brady started cutting all
00:50:57
of his clothes up into small pieces so that would be easier to burn along with his clothes he also burned his shoes he
00:51:05
grabbed the Spade and knife from the cupboard and tried to break the handle of the knife but he wasn't able to so we
00:51:11
threw it into the fire in one piece Hindley said she didn't have any blood on her clothes so she concentrated on
00:51:18
cleaning his shoes and scrubbing the cupboard where Brady had put the Spade and knife when they finished Brady said
00:51:24
I'm no longer of your world if as you might suggest I ever was Hindley had this to say about the night
00:51:32
after Pauline's death Ian and I were no longer of this world I was frightened but equally felt safe in the knowledge
00:51:40
that I was a worthy apprentice we celebrated our bonding with drink and sex I would lay myself open to an in a
00:51:48
physical demonstration of our unity Ian and I became further bonded by the blood of our victims
00:51:56
Hindley denied gaining any sexual gratification from the murder but said she gained a sense of security due to
00:52:02
the fact that her and Brady could not be safe without the other quote there were
00:52:07
times when we would be paranoid about each other but loyalty was a duty we both respected there was no room for
00:52:13
weakness or treachery the secret was shared beyond us together more closely than any ties of affection possibly
00:52:20
could in the meantime Pauline's parents Joan and Amos and her brother Paul continued searching the
00:52:27
streets for Pauline Amos broke away from the search to make a police report or journey and Paul kept looking at one
00:52:35
point during the search Jones saw Linda the first friend Pauline had asked to go
00:52:39
to the dance Jane lashed out at her and told her Pauline wouldn't be missing if she
00:52:44
discontent the dance with her Linda ran home crying the next morning Saturday the 13th of July 1963 Hindley
00:52:54
and Brady woke up early about 6:45 a.m. brandy cursed when he discovered bloodstains on
00:53:00
the color of his coat he took her to the sink and dabbed at the bloodstains with
00:53:05
a piece of cloth trying to remove them when he finished he cleaned up the remains from the fireplace wrapped them
00:53:11
in newspaper and threw them away except for the knife the knife was blackened but not completely destroyed he wrapped
00:53:19
that in a separate sheet of the Manchester Evening News and kept it to dispose of later after they had
00:53:26
breakfast they rode to turn on Brady's motorbike they left his coat at the dry cleaners under the name Kennedy who is
00:53:32
the American president at the time Brady then purchased cigarettes and a chocolate bar after he bought them
00:53:39
he told him Lee had used four half crayons from the money he found in Pauline's coat pocket
00:53:44
Hindley couldn't believe he had kept the money and told him to replace the crayons and buried the exact amount of
00:53:49
money Pauline had on her near the burial site in case the missing money could somehow be traced back to them
00:53:56
Brady was at first annoyed by Henry's reaction but after considering it further conceded she might be right
00:54:03
they continued writing to Macclesfield about 32 kilometers south of Manchester Brady threw the knife into the river and
00:54:11
then burnt the newspaper it was wrapped in there were children playing nearby the next morning they got on Brady's
00:54:18
motorbike again and rode too subtle worth more Brady replaced the coins he had taken from Pauline and scattered
00:54:25
them around the crime scene Brady then bought Hindley a record there was the theme song to the 1962 film the
00:54:32
legions last patrol as it was titled in the UK it was called commando in the US the theme song was by Ken thorn and his
00:54:40
orchestra brady quartered an anniversary gift for the anniversary of their perfect crime now if either of them
00:54:48
hunger tune it would be a private reference to Pauline when they returned to Hindley's house they found Henry's
00:54:56
mother Nellie her sister Maureen and her grant inside discussing Pauline's disappearance Hindley wasn't quite right
00:55:04
thinking Pauline's disappearance wouldn't create as much heat there's an 8 year old people were worried there was
00:55:09
the talk of the town one neighbor said we all knew each other and that's partly why Pauline's disappearance made people
00:55:16
so nervous everyone tried to keep an open mind about it because people didn't just vanish in those days if they did it
00:55:23
was with good reason but with Pauline no one knew what to think and threw everything off kilter
00:55:29
her family were absolutely positive she hadn't run away and we believed them but
00:55:34
if she hadn't run away what had happened to her there was no explanation no clue
00:55:41
the police were unable to find any evidence to help them work out what had happened to Pauline and with that came
00:55:48
the rumours Pauline had left him with a fairground worker or she had run away to
00:55:53
Australia but to anyone who really knew her that was impossible Pauline wasn't the type of girl to run off without
00:56:01
telling anyone plus she didn't have a reason to Pauline's mother Joan was quoted in the
00:56:07
Gorton and Openshaw reporter one week her disappearance this is a complete mystery Pauline has no boyfriends and
00:56:15
there has not been a fight at home we would rather know that she was safe and half Oh back home no matter what she may
00:56:21
have done the money Pauline had in her coat pocket was mentioned in this article when he knew he read it she felt
00:56:29
relieved she had told Brady to replace the coins on the 23rd of July 1963 11 days after Pauline's murder in delete'
00:56:38
turned 21 Brady gave her a gold-plated watch the neighbor who lent him dahlias ven told
00:56:45
her she could now keep it as a 21st birthday present not long after Hindley and Brady painted the VINs interior what
00:56:53
so that if there were any forensic traces left they'd now be gone they returned to
00:56:59
subtle worth more regularly according to Hindley returning to Pauline's burial site Tom Brady and gave
00:57:05
him renewed sense of dominion the Gorton an open sure reporter kept on writing articles about Pauline three weeks after
00:57:13
the murder August 2nd sixty three there was a feature article on the front page Joan was quoted she used to go dancing
00:57:21
often I was not worried at first but I became alarmed when she failed to return there will be no trouble for Pauline
00:57:28
when she does come home the police were also quoted the search has drawn a complete blank and we are
00:57:35
very anxious about this situation police had drained a large section of the canal
00:57:40
near where she was last seen they used tracker dogs dragged other nearby ponds visited Fairgrounds coffee
00:57:46
bars cinemas knocked on all the doors they could question as many people as they could but it turned up nothing
00:57:54
along with the police inquiry there was a known fact that poor lanes family were
00:57:58
continuing their own search Amos and Jane were always spotted out looking often in the very early hours of the
00:58:04
morning Jane said I was always looking by even went house-to-house thinking I'd find her in one of the houses I was
00:58:12
always ready with my coat on to run out as soon as daylight came I went miles on
00:58:17
my own traveling on buses and thinking I'd see her getting on one bus and running after another bus that summer
00:58:27
Hindley and Brady went on a holiday to Scotland before they left English stopped at the police station to
00:58:33
ask a favor she asked them to please watch her fan while she was away it wasn't the first time Hindley and Brady
00:58:40
had traveled to Scotland together Brady had previously shown Hindley around pointing out the houses he grew up in on
00:58:46
these trips they would sometimes come across children by themselves but Brady told Hindley he would never hurt a
00:58:52
fellow Scot when they returned home from their trip to Scotland a police officer
00:58:58
knocked on Emily's door it was about the van Heelys fear quickly turned to relief
00:59:04
when the officer asked if Hindley would be interested in telling him of n Kindle
00:59:10
he was open to the idea and they agreed on a price of 25 pounds but the officer said he couldn't exchange money while on
00:59:16
duty so he offered to take Hindley on a night out and pay her the money then Hindley agreed when Hindley told Brady
00:59:25
about the encounter he laughed hysterically Hindley laughed along with him in Dulli state the police officer went
00:59:33
ahead he picked her up on his motorbike and they went to a pub in Gordon after the pub the officer drove her home
00:59:40
Hindley invited him inside for a cup of tea while sitting in the living room Hindley mentioned that she was in a
00:59:46
serious relationship with Brady but it wasn't long before they started kissing and then slept together at one point
00:59:54
Hindley says she wanted to tell the officer about Pauline but she thought better of it instead she asked him
01:00:00
whether she should apply to join the police force they made plans to meet again he knew he was serious about wanting to
01:00:08
join the police force she went to Mill Street Station for an interview they determined she was
01:00:13
suitable for training and gave her an application form when she's told Brady he laughed hysterically and said join
01:00:19
the force he'll pick up a lot of useful information once Brady said this Hindley
01:00:25
didn't want to join any longer realizing where it would lead one thing Brady didn't find hysterically funny was the
01:00:33
possibility Hindley was sleeping with a police officer he was starting to suspect it when he confronted her about
01:00:39
it Hindley remained silent so he knew then his suspicions were confirmed Hindoo he
01:00:45
said Brady threatened to kill the officer the officer himself said Brady turned up at Hindley's house while he
01:00:51
was there and told him to back off still they continued their affair for months despite the fact Hindley remained with
01:00:58
Brady and the police officer remained with his wife in early November 1963 until he started visiting a gun club
01:01:07
there was Brady's idea Brady had started talking about bank robberies again and said they would need guns for the
01:01:13
robbery Brady couldn't get guns because of his criminal record Hindley didn't have much shooting talent
01:01:19
she was forever worrying about the kick and she'd always close her eyes before shooting
01:01:25
Hindley purchased the Webley 45 for 8 piants and a nickel-plated two-inch barrel Smith & Wesson 38 for 5 pounds
01:01:33
she later purchased the target rifle from a store in Manchester Brady in Hindley took the guns to the Moors and
01:01:40
shot at 10 cans Brady had a fascination with the guns and would spend hours cleaning them one time while cleaning
01:01:47
the rifle he pointed it at Hindley his fingers slowly pulling the trigger Hindley didn't know if it was loaded or
01:01:54
not she said shoot me and put me out of my misery Brady laughed and moved the rifle away
01:02:01
acting like nothing had happened a few days later Hindley was cleaning the Webley 45 she pointed it at Brady
01:02:08
and told him it was loaded Brady looked at her with a petrified expression he tried to move away but
01:02:15
froze when Hindley released the safety until he started shaking then threw it at him asking him how he felt having a
01:02:23
gun pointed at him Hindley started crying and Brady smacked her in the head twice telling her she
01:02:29
was getting too far out of line and a warning her to watch it or he would put her in a place once and for all by mid
01:02:41
November 1963 four months since Portland's murder Brady and Hindley started planning another one
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according to Hindley they were in the living room at her home watching television when Brady said I want to do
01:02:54
another one Hindley claims she told him she didn't want to be involved Brady told her she'd
01:03:00
only have to coerce the victim into a hired car he also told her that this time he wanted a child firstly because
01:03:08
of his sexual attraction to children and secondly because of the way Pauline had
01:03:12
struggled he wanted someone he could handle better someone who wouldn't stand a chance against him before putting the
01:03:20
new plan into action Hindley slept with the police officer one last time then told him they were
01:03:25
finished he accepted that paid him Lee for the van and said goodbye Hindley believed that with him things would have
01:03:33
turned out differently quote if we'd met before Ian and I did I knew that the love that
01:03:39
had grown between us would have blossomed I would have had no hesitation in marrying and having children with him
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Hindley tried to hire a car however she had only just gotten her license even though she had driven often without one
01:03:53
her proper license wasn't ready and all she had was a slip of paper saying that she'd passed the test the rental agency
01:04:01
rejected the slip of paper and wouldn't allow her to hire a car when she got her
01:04:06
proper license she returned to the rental agency and hired a white Ford for the following weekend on Friday the 22nd
01:04:14
of November 1983 Brady went to Manchester central railway station and deposited a suitcase at the luggage
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storage filled with what he called incriminating material while he was at the station he overheard a conversation
01:04:28
that made him run over to a radio he listened in to news reports that United States President John F Kennedy had just
01:04:36
been shot dead the next morning Saturday the 23rd of November Hindley caught a bus to pick up the hire
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car she then drove the Bradys house in Westmoreland Street when Brady saw the hire car he complained that it was too
01:04:50
clean when you finish complaining he gave Hindley another present a new record 24
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hours from Tulsa by Gene Pitney once again this song would serve to remind them of their new victim whenever they
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heard it or hand it to each other they drove to leek in Staffordshire 56 kilometres south of Manchester they
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spent the morning at the roaches a prominent rocky ridge 1657 feet above sea level
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popular with hikers and rock climbers they then drove north to Huddersfield 70 kilometres away they stopped for
01:05:27
something to eat and a coffee while in Huddersfield Hindley walked into a hardware store wearing a black week she
01:05:34
bought a spade and knife in the length of court afterwards they returned to Manchester
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and found a cinema playing From Russia With Love the double-oh-seven film they'd already seen it but in the case
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they were later caught and ask questions about their whereabouts they would use the cinema in that movie as their alibi
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Healey dropped brady home and then returned home herself at 4:00 p.m. that afternoon brady road to Hindley's house
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on his motorbike in the trunk of the hire car Hindley and Brady laid out plastic sheets and put the target rifle
01:06:08
the Spade and the flashlight on top Hindley put on her week in a headscarf and went over the plan with Brady one
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more time once they picked up a victim Hindley would drive to the mall and let Brady in the victim out she would then
01:06:24
drive away to Greenfield which is near the entrance to the mall she would wait 30 minutes and during that time get the
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rifle from the trunk and put it on the passenger seat then she would drive back to the mall to the spot she dropped off
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Brady in the victim she would flash their headlights three times if everything was going to plan Brady would
01:06:43
flash the flashlight three times once they were both happy with the plan Hindley drove to Ashton under line seven
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kilometers north of Gordon they chose Ashton under line as it had a popular market on the weekends and on
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this particular Saturday there were over 100 stalls Brady and Hindley were easily
01:07:04
able to blend in and stalk children without anyone noticing as soon as they arrived Hindu Lee went to the bathroom
01:07:12
to adjust the week entire her headscarf tighter when she walked out she started browsing the stalls until she found
01:07:19
Brady he told her he had already seen a young boy who appeared to be on his own Brady and Hindley linked dance so they
01:07:27
looked like a normal couple and Brady led her through the market until they reached the wall where the
01:07:33
boys had eating broken biscuits from a bag the boy was John Kilbride John lived in
01:07:42
a three-bedroom red brick house at 262 small Shore Lane Ashton underlined his parents were Patrick and Sheila and at
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12 years of age John was the oldest of seven children he had brown hair big eyes and a gap-toothed smile that made
01:07:58
him recognizable in the neighborhood he always walked with hands in pockets while whistling or seen he attended
01:08:06
Saint Damien's Catholic Secondary School and was very happy there he had a lot of
01:08:10
friends and was always cheerful he was a big fan of football especially the local
01:08:15
team Ashton United his biggest passion though was movies he went to the cinema whenever he could John's grandmother
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lived close by and he would often visit her to offer his help around the house or in the garden his grandmother
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suffered from gall stones and wasn't able to bend over easily so she was glad to have John around that
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morning Saturday November 23rd 1963 John had gone shopping for his grandmother after he dropped the groceries off he
01:08:44
went to the movies with three friends all three were also called John they went to the pavilion cinema which was
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close to the market they watched the Mongols which finished at 5:00 p.m. after the movie they had no money left
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so they decided to go to the market and offer their assistance the spooky bits for tips
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unbeknownst to John his father Patrick had been in the market to buy shoes only 15 minutes prior since the market was
01:09:11
large and crowded the boys split up John was able to pick up a few jobs helping out the stall holders he was last seen
01:09:18
by his friends at 5:30 p.m. shortly after 5:30 indle II approached John and said you're out late for such a
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young lad aren't you Brady was standing behind him Glee and added that they had children of their own and could only
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imagine how worried his parents must be about him they asked him his name and where he lived he nearly offered him a
01:09:40
lift home and John accepted putting the plastic bag with broken biscuits in his pocket and jumping off the wall to join
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them while they were walking to the car Brady and Hindley offered John a bottle of sherry they said they won in a raffle
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John agreed did the gift in the car John sat in the front passenger seat while Brady sat in the back Hindu he
01:10:02
locked the doors Brady said the bottle of sherry they were going to give him was back at their house in Greenfield
01:10:08
next to the Moores John agreed to go with them to get the sherry when they got close to Greenfield Brady said while
01:10:16
they were there they should try and find him though he's lost class which held sentimental value to her John didn't
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reply hinto he drove this huddle worth more and parked the car brady asked John if
01:10:30
he would help him look for him to his glove before they went back to their place to get the sherry John got out of
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the car and stood nervously next to the door Brady fetched the flashlight from the
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trunk the northen cord were already in the pocket of his coat he then signaled to John to follow him and they walked
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out onto the moor Hindoo he watched as I walked away noting the big height difference between Brady and John
01:10:56
Hindley drove the green field and parked opposite up up the Clarence which was located where the road ended and the
01:11:03
moor started she parked in a dark spot and got out of the car and put the rifle and the passenger seat as instructed she
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kept checking their clock and when thirty minutes passed she drove back to where she left Brady and John once there
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she flashed their headlights three times in the middle of the darkness she saw three slight flashes from the flashlight
01:11:24
she turned the car around and not long after Brady appeared out of breath he opened the trunk and threw the Spade
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inside Hindley saw that he was also holding a small shoe Brady explained it must have fallen off
01:11:39
during the attack and he only noticed that after he buried John he added that after he assaulted John he wasn't able
01:11:47
to kill him with the knife because the blade wasn't sharp enough so instead he had to strangle him with the cord after
01:11:53
killing John Brady looked up at the sky shook his fist and shouted take that you
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bastard later he explained quote nothing less than challenging God or the indifferent
01:12:07
universe will satisfy her a form of reversed hope as it were show me your power your existence by stopping me to be
01:12:15
ignored is to be deprived of human dignity and me Brady placed the knife and cord in the
01:12:23
trunk and then got in the car he knew he drove them back to Gordon back at Hindley's house
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Brady went through the same steps of getting rid of what he called forensic again Brady made a detailed list the
01:12:37
first step was cleaning the Spade which he did in the sink and afterwards he placed it in the cupboard along with the
01:12:43
rifle in the fireplace he burned his clothes John's shoe and the handle of the knife which was able to separate
01:12:49
easily this time he disposed of the blade separately the plastic sheeting they had laid in the trunk got thrown
01:12:56
away and they wiped down the hire car thoroughly inside and out when they finished they both sat in front of the
01:13:03
fire and drank three bottles of wine with whiskey chasers about that night Hindley had this to say quote with the
01:13:12
killing of John killbride a child I felt I'd cross the Rubicon Ian said good admitting to have crossed the Rubicon
01:13:19
was ten amount to admitting what he tried to drumming to my head that what was done was done and couldn't be undone
01:13:26
there was no going back and even after the first murder we were irrevocably beyond together and
01:13:32
more so after the second one just then he looked up at the TV there was either a football match on or late Sports News
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he said look at that massive crowd who would miss one person two three from all the millions of people in this country
01:13:48
I didn't say their parents and family he never gave them a thought and I knew I'd
01:13:54
really have to steel myself to do the same in Ashton underline John's family was starting to worry he was usually
01:14:03
home by 5:30 p.m. but the hours continued to tick by and there was no sign of him one of his brothers Danny
01:14:10
started knocking on the doors of friends and relatives to see if they'd seen John
01:14:14
but no one had at 9:00 p.m. John's mother Sheila started to fear the worst she didn't believe he could be anywhere
01:14:22
good since they didn't have a phone she went to her sister's house and called the
01:14:26
police when the police officers walked inside the kilbride house they had that mute the TV as a news report about john
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f kennedy's assassination was blaring while sheila was speaking to the officers she broke down crying one of
01:14:41
the officers remembered the day well many years later quote everyone knows where they were when kennedy was killed
01:14:47
and john killbride went missing a day later I was working late in the darkroom and I had a radio fixed up on one of the
01:14:55
shelves and the announcement about the little that came on there crackling over the airwaves the next day the search for
01:15:02
John kilbride started Detective Chief Inspector John Bourne was in charge of the case police visited the market and
01:15:09
inspected trucks questioned stallholders open boxes and went over just about everything in sight John's parents
01:15:17
Sheila and Danny started searching everywhere they could too they got on buses and went to different towns to see
01:15:22
if there was any sign of John deep down they knew it was pointless since there was no reason for John to run away but
01:15:29
they found it impossible to sit and wait that same morning in Gordon brainy left
01:15:34
him Lee's house and returned home to Westmoreland Street fighting a hangover Hindley returned the hire car although
01:15:41
they thought they had cleaned the car thoroughly the foreman at the car rental said it looked as if it had been through
01:15:46
a playout field two days after the murder Monday the 25th of November the Manchester Evening
01:15:53
News posted an article about John the headline read dogs joining massive economy up for boy at Mill woods all of
01:16:02
the staff are talking about the article and about John Hindley and Brady read the article and Brady felt satisfaction
01:16:09
the crimes who is committing were starting to get highly public and he later stated the audience is the value
01:16:16
and quality of the act police took over 700 statements from stallholders and people who were at the
01:16:23
market 500 posters were distributed with John's pitcher and the title have you seen this boy his brother Danny was
01:16:30
haunted especially by the posters which were everywhere he went they made him feel horrible because he
01:16:36
still had no idea where John could be on Wednesday November 27th Brady and Hindley went to the mall for what Brady
01:16:43
called a reconnaissance which meant checking that the burial sites hadn't been disturbed that same day the
01:16:50
Manchester Evening News read an article stating police would welcome anyone over
01:16:54
the age of 18 to help them join the search for John Danny also returned to school that day and everything seemed
01:17:02
different from then on every Monday the headmaster would say let's say a prayer for John Kilbride and all of the
01:17:09
children of school would turn to look at him they need didn't know what to do Sheila kept preparing meals for John at
01:17:16
dinnertime and Casey came home there was a lot of media coverage of John's disappearance it was still front-page
01:17:23
news a week later police divers searched the river team and police reported that
01:17:29
their search was focused east of Lee's Road Lee's Road was about eight kilometers away from the mall when
01:17:35
Hindley heard this report she started to panic that they were getting closer to the burial sites on Sunday December 1st
01:17:43
2000 volunteers searched through farms abandoned buildings and Parks Sheila received a tip that a boy who looked
01:17:51
like John had asked the newspaper seller in Bari located 14 kilometres north of Manchester and we are Aisling United's
01:17:57
progress John's favorite team Sheila immediately took a bus to Barry and started knocking door-to-door holding a
01:18:04
photograph of John and asking if anyone had seen him a businessman had been following the
01:18:10
search offered a reward of 100 pounds to anyone who could give information about
01:18:15
John's whereabouts while watching TV Brady asked Hindley what do you think I'll get out of doing what we've done
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Hindley responded but it was because he was in charge he dominated and had the power over someone's life and death
01:18:29
Brady smiled at her and said good you know where I'm coming from now on December 6th the reporter newspaper said
01:18:38
the search for John kill Bryan was now the biggest search ever mounted for a missing person because of a lack of
01:18:44
actual evidence in mid-december the press contacted a parapsychologists and a psychic the parapsychologist couldn't
01:18:51
offer anything the psychic who is from Ashton underlined said she saw John out in the open some way down a slope with
01:18:58
the skyline completely barren but a tree inside a road on the right and danira stream on December 21st one month after
01:19:08
the murder Hindley once again rented a car for a new reconnaissance trip to the mall
01:19:13
Brady in Hindley did these trips often Brady like to sit at the mall and just stare for long periods of time they
01:19:21
would also go to small Shore lane and sit staring at John kill Brides house for long periods of time Hindley said
01:19:28
that up the moor John kilbride had a measure of peace but at his house his family was struggling to get through
01:19:34
each day John Gill bride's father Patrick wasn't coping any longer the police had
01:19:41
repeatedly taken him in for questioning suspecting he may have been responsible for John's disappearance
01:19:47
Patrick was starting to despise them for it Patrick ended up in a violent fight at a pub when someone hinted he was the
01:19:55
blame for John going missing on December 27th the local press did a story about Christmas at the kill bride's house they
01:20:03
took a picture showing Sheila and Patrick sitting at the table with their six children one chair was empty
01:20:09
to welcome in the new year 1964 Brady and Hindley went to the mall and Brady held a whiskey bottle up and shouted to
01:20:17
John in February 1964 Hindley bought a secondhand Austin a 40 car only 37 percent of households in the UK owned a
01:20:28
car at the time one of the first trips Hindley did with the car was furthermore with Brady for another reconnaissance
01:20:36
this time though they did something they hadn't done before they took what they called souvenirs which were photographs
01:20:44
they went on the trip with puppet him Lee's new black-and-white puppy from a litter Gran's dog glass he had Brady
01:20:51
like he did with all animals loved the dog when they reached the mall they parked and walked the poor lanes burial
01:20:58
site Bradley took a picture of him leash thinning near the site cuddling puppet then they walked over to
01:21:06
the other side of the road where John's burial site was Hindu Lee crouched down on John's burial site still holding
01:21:12
puppet she looked down to the ground and Brady snapped the picture about these souvenir photographs
01:21:20
Hindley said quote a.m. would have liked the victims to have suffered for the rest of their lives after he had abused
01:21:26
them he could only save her past experiences through items that had kept under lock and key returning at a later
01:21:32
date to rekindle the excitement some of the photographs that we took on the moors were constructed with the location
01:21:38
of the graves taken into consideration but Ian did not need a camera's image he could reproduce the image in his own
01:21:45
head the pictures were later added to a photo album along with regular family pictures
01:21:50
and holiday photos to family and friends they just look like regular happy photos
01:21:55
they didn't know the sinister secret that laid underneath at Easter Brady and Hindley travelled back to Scotland they
01:22:04
visited the memorial to Maggie war a burial site for a woman who was burnt as a witch as a young boy Brady was
01:22:11
impressed by the place and wanted Hindley to see it they stole a stone from the grave and took a picture
01:22:18
on May 6 1964 Hindu Lee swapped the Austin 840 for a white Morris mini traveler a two-door station wagon in
01:22:27
which the backseat could be folded flat to create more room with the new car Hindley and Brady continued doing
01:22:33
reconnaissance trips to the mall where they took more souvenirs of the burial sites on May 15th 1964 John Kilbride
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would have celebrated his 13th birthday Sheila bought him presents and wrote him
01:22:47
a card that said for John if he is found by today May 15th all my luck Sheila kept all of his belongings went to
01:23:00
church regularly to pray for him and continued to walk the streets hoping to see him somewhere in Gorton Jean Amos
01:23:08
and Paul Reid were doing the same for Pauline meanwhile Brady said to Hindley I am ready to do another one to be
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Episode Highlights

  • Myra Hindley's Childhood
    Myra Hindley grew up in a violent household, shaping her future.
    “Any good in me comes from my gran.”
    @ 03m 35s
    November 19, 2018
  • Ian Brady's Early Life
    Ian Brady's childhood was marked by violence and a troubled family dynamic.
    “The best period of my life I was not the stereotypical loner.”
    @ 12m 22s
    November 19, 2018
  • Hindley's Fatal Attraction
    Hindley describes her immediate and fatal attraction to Ian Brady.
    “I can only describe my reaction as an immediate and fatal attraction.”
    @ 22m 59s
    November 19, 2018
  • Planning the Perfect Crime
    Brady and Hindley plot a bank robbery and the murder of a child.
    “I found it exciting to swim against the tide to do things that others would never dream of.”
    @ 35m 44s
    November 19, 2018
  • The Dark Side of Their Relationship
    Hindley and Brady bond over their shared interests in crime and literature.
    “We had to be able to blend into our surroundings like chameleons.”
    @ 39m 05s
    November 19, 2018
  • Pauline's Last Dance
    Pauline, a 16-year-old, leaves for a dance alone, unaware of the danger ahead.
    @ 44m 03s
    November 19, 2018
  • The Fateful Encounter
    Hindley offers Pauline a lift, leading her to a tragic fate at Saddleworth Moor.
    @ 45m 07s
    November 19, 2018
  • The Aftermath of a Crime
    Brady and Hindley clean up after the murder, marking the start of their dark bond.
    @ 50m 31s
    November 19, 2018
  • Hindley's Despair
    Hindley, in a moment of vulnerability, asks to be shot to end her misery.
    “Shoot me and put me out of my misery.”
    @ 01h 01m 54s
    November 19, 2018
  • Brady's Challenge to the Universe
    After committing murder, Brady expresses a desire to challenge the universe itself.
    “Nothing less than challenging God or the indifferent universe will satisfy.”
    @ 01h 12m 05s
    November 19, 2018
  • Crossing the Rubicon
    Hindley reflects on the irreversible nature of their actions after the murder of John Kilbride.
    “With the killing of John Kilbride, I felt I'd crossed the Rubicon.”
    @ 01h 13m 15s
    November 19, 2018
  • The Biggest Search
    The search for John Kilbride becomes the largest ever mounted for a missing person.
    “The search for John Kilbride was now the biggest search ever mounted for a missing person.”
    @ 01h 18m 38s
    November 19, 2018

Episode Quotes

  • I wanted my mother to stand up for herself but she was weak.
    Unseen killers begin their reign of terror (Part 1/3)
  • Confronting a vast scenery you can almost hear the unknown invisible presences.
    Unseen killers begin their reign of terror (Part 1/3)
  • I found it exciting to swim against the tide.
    Unseen killers begin their reign of terror (Part 1/3)
  • I felt doubly doomed, first by the crime itself.
    Unseen killers begin their reign of terror (Part 1/3)
  • Shoot me and put me out of my misery.
    Unseen killers begin their reign of terror (Part 1/3)
  • What do you think I'll get out of doing what we've done?
    Unseen killers begin their reign of terror (Part 1/3)

Key Moments

  • Ian's Early Years10:07
  • Literary Influences21:25
  • Pauline's Dance44:03
  • Point of No Return1:13:15
  • Massive Search1:18:38
  • Happy Photos1:21:53
  • Sinister Secret1:21:55
  • Burial Site Visit1:22:04

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