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Will a new identity save the Silk Road’s creator? (Part 3/3)

November 20, 2018 / 01:04:29

This episode covers the arrest and trial of Ross Ulbricht, the creator of Silk Road, detailing the investigation led by Homeland Security and the FBI.

The episode begins with Ross Ulbricht's attempts to create a new identity after his Silk Road activities were discovered. It discusses his encounter with Homeland Security agents who questioned him about fake IDs, which led to further investigations.

Key figures in the investigation include Jared Der-Yeghiayan, an agent who posed as a Silk Road moderator, and Cristobal, an FBI agent who worked closely with Homeland Security. The episode highlights the collaboration between agencies and the challenges they faced in tracking Ulbricht.

As the investigation progressed, the episode reveals how agents monitored Ulbricht's activities, leading to his eventual arrest in a San Francisco library. The episode details the evidence found on his laptop and the implications of his actions.

Finally, the episode covers Ulbricht's trial, his defense strategy, and the controversial sentencing that resulted in life imprisonment without parole. It raises questions about the justice system and the handling of his case.

TLDR

Ross Ulbricht's arrest and trial for creating Silk Road reveal a complex investigation and controversial sentencing.

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Ross Ulbricht - just put the last lines of his emergency list into action find place to live on Craigslist for cash and
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create new identity name and backstory he found a room to rent on Craigslist paid cash and said his name was Joshua
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Terry he gave his new roommates a backstory for Joshua one that was very similar to his own
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he ordered fake IDs for his new identity from Silk Road but those fake IDs were intercepted by Customs and Border
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Protection and today had passed them on to the Homeland Security office in San Francisco now two agents from Homeland
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Security were knocking on Ross's door Ross froze when he saw the agents he thought it could only mean one thing
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but he managed to compose himself and open the door the agents asked him to step outside and Duras complied the
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agents showed him the fake IDs Ross didn't utter a word but he couldn't hide the fear on his face it was shaking this
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was it his worst fears had come true it was all over they demanded to see his real ID
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Ross handed it over and the agents did some checks but nothing flagged the agents could see how nervous he was and
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they told him to settle down they weren't going to arrest him over a few fake IDs they just wanted information
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where did he get the IDs from rhasta wasn't sure what was happening were they trying to treat him did they
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know everything the agents tried to put him at ease again we don't want a formal statement
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or anything you don't have to incriminate yourself just tell us in hypotheticals how we would go about
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getting some of these made up Ross started to believe they had no idea who he really was he loosened up he told the
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agents that hypothetically anyone could go online to the dark web to a place called Silk Road and to buy anything
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they wanted the agents had no idea what Silk Road was they weren't on any of the
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task forces they weren't trying to make a case against Silk Road or the Dread Pirate Roberts they just wanted to know
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about the IDs the agents believed everything checked out and asked Ross for a phone number in
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case they needed to get back in touch with him he said he didn't have one but he did give them a fake email address
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fractal form at tor mail comm the San Francisco homeland security agents think for us and left it at that for the time
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being ruff shut the door and to let out a huge sigh of relief meanwhile July was proving to be a very
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busy month for Jarod der-yeghiayan the homeland security agent in Chicago on July 14 the day after the deconfliction
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meeting with all of the other agencies jared received a call from FBI agent Cristobal from the cybercrime division
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although Tarbell wasn't present at the deconfliction meeting he watched Jared's presentation via
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videolink and was impressed Tarbell wanted to work with Jerrod Tarbell explained to Jerrod that he saw the
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chrome team had the holy grail of the Silk Road case Silk Road server but they hadn't been working on the case for that
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long and they weren't sure where to start looking within the files so they wanted Jarrett to fly to New York and
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work with them Jared said he would love to so long as he could still work on an important part of the case that he had
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developed Jared was still working with the Silk Road seller accounts that he now had control of after identifying and
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arresting the original owners Jared would take over the account and start striking up conversations with both
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buyers and sellers with this method he began talking to a volunteer moderator on Silk Road that went by the name
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Cirrus after a few weeks of chatting Jared became friends with Cirrus and told her he wanted to send her a gift
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Cirrus allowed the gesture and provided an address the next thing Cirrus new agents from
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Homeland Security were raiding her house in Texas during the raid jared introduced himself to Cirrus and gave
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her two options they should give up her account and help the investigation or she would be charged Cirrus chose to
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give up her account Jared's plan was to become Cirrus he interviewed her in depth
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learning everything about what she did on Silk Road when did she log on when did she log out how long was she
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online for per day what was her writing style when she wrote messages and posted
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on the forums what did she post about Jared bought the exact computer Cirrus hub and installed
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all of the same programs she had he didn't want to leave anything to chance when he felt he had everything squared
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away he logged onto Silk Road and it became Cirrus just after he logged on Cirrus received the message from the
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Dread Pirate Roberts offering a paid moderators job but before he would put her on the payroll he required a
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driver's license or passport Jared arranged a fake driver's license with a photograph of a female agent and sent
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the Dread Pirate Roberts the ID it only took a few minutes for the Dread Pirate Roberts to respond and put Cirrus to
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work there was a huge break in the investigation by August Jared was working in the
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Chicago Homeland Security office by day and working as cirrus the Silk Road moderator by night and it was at this
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time he was asked to fly to New York to assist the FBI cybercrime division when he got to the FBI offices in New York
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agent Christabel showed Jared the computer where they had reconstructed Silk Road from the files on the server
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Jared stared at the computer and afterwards he stared at a nearby wall that had an 8 foot long piece of paper
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stuck on it there were IP addresses written down on the paper with descriptions of where
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each IP address was located as Jared kept his eyes on the paper Tarbell explained to him some of the different
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IP addresses they had one was a server for the chat clients of Silk Road another was a server that stored the
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bitcoins from the site another was for the mastermind section of the site which was Dread Pirate Roberts section as the
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main administrator as Tarbell continued explaining the numbers Jared noticed the
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name no me Toby's in San Francisco Tarbell explained that it was a cafe and someone had logged in and tried to erase
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a Silk Road server from there because of that the FBI had a theory that the Dread
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Pirate Roberts either lived had visited or even possibly still lived in San Francisco and had used the cafes Wi-Fi
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to access Silk Road although as Tarbell explained to Jarrod as quoted in the book American kingpin by Nick Bilton not
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much I can do with it what am I going to do send an FBI agent into a coffee shop
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in San Francisco and tell them to look for someone on a laptop but they were still monitoring the cafes Internet
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traffic to see if they could find anything else after this Jarrod took a good look at the Silk Road offline
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version or the reconstructed version that the FBI had made it was essentially a site that looked exactly like Silk
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Road and had everything that Silk Road had except that it was a life it was just a clone they created
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using the server to assist their investigation while Jared went through the Dread Pirate Roberts different chat
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logs he found more chats between him and the DEA agent Carl Force who was undercover on the site posing his nob
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Jared noticed that there was also now encrypted chats between them Jared asked Tarbell if he thought Carl
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force was trying to obstruct the investigation in some way Tarbell said he did feel that something was off about
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him then another visitor arrived at the cybercrime office Gary Alford the IRS agent who didn't
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speak up at the deconfliction meeting regarding the early forum posts he had found to be our Silk Road from someone
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going by the username Altoid gary had found out that the forum user named Altoid had registered with email address
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Ross Ulbricht at gmail.com but that was quickly deleted and replaced with a fake
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email address frosty at frosty calm Gary didn't think that what he had found was important and
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he had given up trying to find the Dread Pirate Roberts he decided to stick to what he was supposed to do follow the
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money that's why he wanted to get a look at what was on Silk Road server gary entered the office and took a look
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around noticing the large piece of paper on the wall like jared heard gary also noticed the words Nomi Toby's San
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Francisco he asked Tarbell about it and Tarbell told him the same story he had told Jarrod Gary got a slight chill he
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told Tarbell he was looking at someone who was living in San Francisco Tarbell's response didn't impress Gary
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Tarbell couldn't have acted any less interested in what he had to say Gary hated the attitude some of the
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other people on the case had the fact that was a competition not a joint investigation so we didn't say anything
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else he didn't pass on the details of the guy he was looking at in San Francisco if he had Tarbell and Jarrod
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would have found out that the guy Gary was looking at in San Francisco was Ross Ulbricht it was around this time that
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Ross's ex-girlfriend Julia arranged to meet up with him Ross didn't want to make any mistakes
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or mix her up in his fake Joshua Terry identity that he had created for his new roommates so he rented another room in
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San Francisco and took her there they spent the night together in the following day Julia went out to explore
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San Francisco she returned early and when she entered the apartment she found Ross with his
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back to her staring at the computer staring at a page she thought she'd never see again
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silk wrote Ross didn't even hear Julia walk in she took a man before saying hi Ross pressed the kill switch making his
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computer shut down instantly and said he was just catching up on some work but Julie had seen all she needed to Ross
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and obviously lied to her when he said he had given silk right away and to no longer had anything to do with it she
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flew back to Austin soon after that Ross thought it might be time to leave San Francisco and go back to Austin as well
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not specifically because of Julia but because too many things had happened while it was in San Francisco including
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that visit from Homeland Security so we thought it was time to start somewhere fresh
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while Ross was contemplating moving IRS investigator Gary Alford couldn't get him off his mind could Ross be the Dread
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Pirate Roberts as detailed in the book American kingpin Gary started talking to a DEA agent in the New York office about
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Ross it wasn't the first time the agent had heard Gary's theory and he said you really think you're going to find him
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from a Google search Gary nodded I'm right I'm sure of it Gary asked the homeland security officer
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to run Ross Ulbricht name he had done this before already but maybe Neil something new would come up well maybe
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they would find something they had missed previously the homeland security agent ran Ross's name and told Gary that
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Ross had a travel record he'd recently gone to the mini Co which Gary found strange since Dominica and the Caribbean
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in general was a place well known for money laundering then the homeland security agents
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started to get a bit more excited well there's actually a hit on this guy from a few weeks ago Gary listened intently
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as the homeland security agent read the report out loud fake IDs had been confiscated by customs and agents from
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homeland security in San Francisco went to the house the IDS were addressed to they spoke to a resident there by the
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name of Ross Ulbricht the San Francisco agents noted that Ross's roommates knew him as Joshua Terry not Ross Ulbricht
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Ross paid for his room in cash before living at 15th Avenue Ross had lived in Hickory Street in San Francisco central
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area the agents notes read Albrecht who generally refused to answer any questions but he volunteered that
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hypothetically anyone could go into a website named Silk Road on tour and purchase any drugs or IDs
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a children down Gary spine he ran to his supervisors office and screamed it's him
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it's him the supervisor asked Gary to come down and explain what was going on Gary did and the supervisor told him to
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call sir internal the assistant US attorney that was working with FBI agent Chris Tarbell Gary called Turner and
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started giving him an overexcited explanation Turner had to tell him to slow down
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Gary told him everything he knew Turner wasn't convinced but said it wouldn't hurt to check and to ask for Ross's
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address Gary gave him the Hickory Street address where Ross had lived with his friend Rene when he first moved to San
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Francisco Turner punched it straight into Google Maps Turner said holy [ __ ] it's around
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the corner from mommy Toby's cafe where we founded the IP address Turner immediately arranged a conference
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call with Cristobal Jarod der-yeghiayan into Gary Alfred Gary started from the beginning elaborating on the Google
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search had done that led him to the to forum posts from someone called out to it he then went on to say that the user
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Altoid had originally registered with an email address Ross Ulbricht at gmail.com
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but then deleted that address and entered a fake address frosty frosty calm Tarbell stopped Gary what did you
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just say Gary started explaining again until he got to the frosty part and Tarbell interrupted him again
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frosty as in Fr Oeste why Gary was starting to get frustrated with the interruptions and said yes frosty with
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that spelling what Tarbell answered because when we got the server from Iceland we saw that the
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server ended the computer that belonged to the Dread Pirate Roberts were both called frosty the other men stayed
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silent on the line as it all sunk in Garry Alfred had found the Dread Pirate Roberts from a google search it took the
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agents a little over a week to set up an undercover surveillance team that would
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follow raw soul bricks every move their operation resulted in the other agencies
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working on a case to immediately stand down the email that was sent to the Baltimore task force instructed them to
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cease all activity on the Silk Road case including logging onto Silk Road its forum or any undercover accounts Carl
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force panicked when he read the email he'd heard rumors that the FBI might have found the Dread Pirate Roberts but
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this confirmed it he knew that if the FBI got into the Dread Pirate Roberts computer that would be the end of him
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they would be able to see all of the conversations between the two of them including the conversations Carl deleted
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ended the encrypted conversations where he was selling information while pretending to be a corrupt agent named
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Kevin Carl immediately sent an encrypted message to the Dread Pirate Roberts warning him that he had been identified
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and was about to be caught he added in a threat that it was easy to get people in
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jail killed and he had better delete all records of their conversations the FBI kept Ross under surveillance for
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two weeks they followed him every minute of the day when he went out for a walk or spent on
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with friends or went to a cafe they were watching when Ross was seen on his laptop the Dread Pirate Roberts was
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logged into Silk Road and when Ross closed his laptop it was the exact same tone the Dread Pirate Roberts logged out
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of Silk Road the agents had no doubt Ross Ulbricht was the men they were looking for they scheduled the arrest
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that take place on October 1st 2013 agent Cristobal flew to San Francisco a few days prior to join the team on the
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ground and to make sure everything was ready when Tarbell landed in San Francisco
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he realized there was a problem and he called Jarod der-yeghiayan to join him Jared was back in Chicago
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still pretending to be Silk Road employee a Cirrus when he found out he was needed in San Francisco he arranged
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for another homeland security agent to pose as cirrus while he was on the plane Jared then logged back in a Cirrus when
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he landed in San Francisco as soon as Jared landed he met with agent Cristobal and two other men one of them was named
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Brophy a special agent with the FBI in New York and in the other men was Thomas Keenan the computer scientists from the
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FBI cybercrime division Keenan was there to take care of Russell laptop after the
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arrest it was imperative that the laptop stayed open and powered on information like Ross posting on forums about Silk
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Road and logging on to his computer at the exact same time as the Dread Pirate Roberts logged onto Silk Road would be
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worth nothing without the contents of his computer a lawyer could easily argue that was all
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nothing more than a coincidence into the fact the FBI needed Ross's laptop to make a case was part of the problem
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Tarbell was now facing Tarbell explained that the team responsible for the arrest
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wouldn't be the FBI teams from New York that would be a local team from San Francisco although the FBI investigation
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was conducted in the New York office when it came to arrests there was a matter of jurisdiction that had to be
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respected so because Ross was in San Francisco the San Francisco team would make the arrest the problem being the
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San Francisco team won't part of the investigation they didn't know much about Ross or the Dread Pirate Roberts
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and who weren't fully aware of the implications if they didn't get access to his laptop all the San Francisco team
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knew was that Ross was considered extremely dangerous they had seen the chat logs from the server where he
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ordered the murders of Curtis green-friendly chemist Tony 76 and Tony's three partners so because of that
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the San Francisco team was going to arrest him with the assistance of a SWAT team SWAT art known for entering places
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quietly and if Ross heard them coming it would give him time to press the kill switch on his laptop completely shutting
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it down meaning if his encryption was done right it would be impossible for the FBI to
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get the evidence they needed they had to catch him with his laptop open while he
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was locked onto Silk Road Tarbell explained he was trying to talk the local office out of using SWAT but
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it wasn't going well he then he outlined another concern DEA agent Carl force from Baltimore had phoned him and
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demanded access to Silk Road server Tarbell told Carl he had to go through the proper channels and get
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authorization Carl said he had authorization but after a few questions from turbo it was clear he didn't both
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Tarbell and jared agreed carl force looked more suspicious by the day their suspicions were correct Carl had made
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that phone call only minutes after he sent the threatening message to the Dread Pirate Roberts about being able to
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have people killed in jail Carl was trying to get access to the server to see if he could get rid of any
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incriminating evidence against him the following day October 1st 2013 Agent Tarbell's request to make the arrest
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without swattin was officially denied the local office explained that the Dread Pirate Roberts was considered
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dangerous and they wouldn't risk losing an agent over a laptop table l tried arguing that in this case the laptop was
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almost as important as the life of an agent but they weren't having it they were using SWAT and that was final the
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arrest was scheduled to happen in Ross's apartment with the help of the SWAT team
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the following day October 2nd but agents are bill Jarod der-yeghiayan and Thomas
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Keenan came up with a new point one without SWAT the three of them were gathered outside
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a cafe called Bello located about a five-minute walk from Ross's apartment they weren't the only agents there
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either there were several agents spread out around the area in case Ross walked out of his apartment their new plan was
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to try and arrest Ross in a public area they thought that if they could get Ross
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using public Wi-Fi and at the same time they could get Jared chatting with him while he was posing as Silk Road
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employee Cirrus then there would be no denying that Ross was the Dread Pirate Roberts Ross had visited the Bello cafe
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only the day before so they hope you'd reappear there again they waited anxiously praying he would show up the
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time was 1:00 p.m. Jared was watching the screen of his laptop keeping an eye on the Dread Pirate Roberts who was
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connected to the staff chat of Silk Road but at 2:47 p.m. the Dread Pirate Roberts signed out of the chat Jarret
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checked his battery level it was down to 18 percent since the Dread Pirate Roberts was no longer online Jared made
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his way inside the Bello cafe to charge his computer the cafe was jammed packed with people the Jared managed to find an
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open power point it was the only one available he started charging his computer and was planning on ordering a
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coffee when Tarbell stormed into the cafe and told him Ross had left his apartment and was currently walking in
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their direction Jared quickly removed his computer from the PowerPoint left the coffee shop and
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made his way across the street he sat on a bench next to computer scientist Thomas Keenan both agents pretended to
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be busy on their devices while they waited for an update on Ross's location they soon got it Ross turned up to the
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Bello cafe just as they had hoped jared watched as ross entered the cafe and then cursed under his breath when
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Ross walked out only 30 seconds later jared noir in chats with his employees the Dread Pirate Roberts had instructed
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them never to access Silk Road in a place where someone could look over their shoulder the cafe was packed so it
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was too dangerous for Ross to log on Ross turned right and kept going until he found the next available place
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that had Wi-Fi the Glen Park library the moment Ross walked into the library computer scientist Thomas Kean and
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followed him he had been instructed to keep an eye on Ross's computer at all times so he took up a position inside
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undercover surveillance agents had already followed Rossi in as well agents arbel sat down next to Jared outside the
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library Jared was keeping a close eye on his laptop waiting for the Dread Pirate
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Roberts to reconnect to the staff chat on Silk Road Thabo had given strict instructions to all of the other agents
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present to wait for Jarrett to get chatting with the Dread Pirate Roberts on the Silk Road employee chat before
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anyone made a move against him Jared kept looking at the screen anxiously minutes seemed like hours until finally
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at 3:08 p.m. the Dread Pirate Roberts reconnected to the Silk Road staff chat Jarrett took his opportunity and using
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the Silk Road employee account of Cirrus that he had taken over he typed hi but there was no response jarred kept
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looking at the screen waiting after one minute passed he tried again are you there
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30 long seconds ticket by the Dread Pirate Roberts responded hey Jarrett talked how are you doing
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the Dread Pirate Roberts answered on ok you Jarrod said good can you check out one of the flagged messages for me
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Jarrod knew that the Dread Pirate Roberts could only access the flagged messages from the main administrator
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section of Silk Road otherwise known as the mastermind section if they caught Ross in that part of the site that was
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game over as only the Dread Pirate Roberts could access it another long minute passed before the
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Dread Pirate Roberts he answered sure let me login but before he logged in he sent his test question like he did with
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all of his employees only the Dread Pirate Roberts and the employee knew the answer to the question it was a security
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measure to make sure it was really Ben if Jared gave the wrong answer the Dread Pirate Roberts would shut down the
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account the Dread Pirate Roberts typed you did Bitcoin exchange before he started
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working for me right the real Cirrus had told Jared what the answer to the question was when Jared
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took over her account but in this high-pressure moment he was struggling to remember it Jared
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tentatively replied yes but just for a little bit the Dread Pirate Roberts responded not any more than that Jared
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no I stopped because of the reporting requirements sweat poured off Jared time seemed to stand still had he gotten it
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right or had he just blown the investigation it seemed like an eternity before the
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Dread Pirate Roberts responded okay which post Jared knew this was it the Dread Pirate Roberts was exactly
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where they needed him to be in the mastermind section he signaled to Chris Tarbell to go Tarbell gave the order
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Paul Ross's laptop first and then make the arrest we hope you're enjoying today's episode
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heard a loud scream coming from behind him the scream was from a woman she yelled [ __ ] you Tom Ian standing by her
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side Ross was startled and turned around to see what was going on the man had his
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fist raised and was about to punch the woman but the punch never came Ross was confused and turned back to his
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laptop but it wasn't there the man and woman pretending to argue we're FBI agents they took Ross by the
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arms and screamed at him to stay still another agent and taken Ross's computer away from him while he was distracted by
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the fake argument agent Brophy appeared and handcuffed Ross then he made him stand up and walk
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to the door of the library where Tarbell and Jared were waiting Tarbell and jared
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escorted Ross outside the library and Ross asked what he was being charged with Tarbell held up a piece of paper
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United States of America versus Ross William ohlbrecht aka Dread Pirate Roberts aka DPO aka Silk Road Jaron left
00:33:19
Ross with Tarbell and returned to the library he saw that Ross was logged into the
00:33:24
main administrator section of Silk Road the Silk Road support page and torture were open as well which showed the
00:33:30
conversation Jared had just been having with him through Cyrus's accountant Thomas Kean and carefully carried the
00:33:37
laptop out of the library and into a waiting vehicle he had to make sure the laptop remained on at all times so as he
00:33:44
sat with it in the car he moved his finger on the mousepad regularly so it was never out of
00:33:49
activity Keenan was driven to a special van that was a mobile computer forensics
00:33:54
lab he started going through Ross's laptop with another computer expert one of the first things they did was look
00:34:02
for any traps like a kill switch the agents checked carefully and over the next 10 hours the laptops contents
00:34:11
were backed up six times FBI agents conducted a thorough search of rasa's apartment they found two thumb
00:34:19
drives on his bedside table and two pieces of paper in the garbage can which showed that Ross had been designing a
00:34:25
new rating system for Silk Road the note sent cryptic they included different key
00:34:30
words and ideas for the rating system when the agents matched up these notes for several foreign posts from the Dread
00:34:36
Pirate Roberts discussing the new rating system every keyword matched news of the
00:34:47
arrests broke immediately the FBI announced that they believed Silk Road had turned over 1.2 billion dollars in
00:34:53
revenue with Ross alone pocketing 80 million dollars in commissions in the two years and ten months the site had
00:34:59
been running the story of the former Eagle Scout turned crime kingpin made headlines around the world those who
00:35:07
were close to Ross couldn't believe it his family denied the allegations saying Ross wasn't capable of doing what the
00:35:14
FBI were alleging his roommates in San Francisco the place Ross found on Craigslist and paid for in cash got a
00:35:22
shock when they saw the front page of the paper Ross Ulbricht he looks a lot like our old roommate Joshua Terry they
00:35:31
had to do a double and triple take it was him Ross hired lawyer Joshua J toll to
00:35:39
represent him he was offered a plate deal before the case went to trial plead guilty and served 10 years to life but
00:35:47
he refused it there were seven charges in total narcotics trafficking distribution of narcotics by means of
00:35:56
the internet and conspiracy to traffic narcotics which all carried a sentence of 10 years to life running a continual
00:36:04
criminal enterprise commonly known as the kingpin Church which carried a sentence of 20 years to life they could
00:36:11
actually result in the death penalty if it was proven the person charged had committed murder
00:36:16
the remaining three charges were computer hacking money-laundering and trafficking false documents the three of
00:36:23
those charges have put together could lead to a sentence of 40 years to life the one thing that Ross wasn't charged
00:36:32
with was murder the charges were considered since they found the chat logs where the Dread
00:36:37
Pirate Roberts ordered hits on six different individuals but they knew the hit on Curtis green never actually
00:36:42
happened that had been faked and when the FBI searched for the real identities of friendly chemist Tony 76 and Tony's
00:36:52
three partners they couldn't find anything no murders on their database matched to
00:36:58
the dates and times that hits allegedly took place the more they look into it the more it seemed that no murders ever
00:37:05
took place at all and Ross had paid a total of seven hundred and thirty thousand dollars for six murders that
00:37:11
were never committed but he thought they had he had received the pictures of what
00:37:17
he thought were dead people has proof the hits had taken place he just didn't realize they were faked Ross had been
00:37:27
found with his computer open on Silk Road but he believed that's all the FBI had he had encrypted the rest of his
00:37:33
files his diary his chat logs the photographs have all he thought were dead bodies from the hits and many other
00:37:39
files they were all encrypted with a password that Ross believed the FBI would never find
00:37:46
but Thomas Keenan and his associate found the password hidden in the rim of Russ's laptop the password was purple
00:37:54
orange beach that password unlocked everything on Ross's computer the FBI had at all
00:38:02
Ross hadn't been as careful as he thought Ross's trial started On January 13 2015 at lasted three weeks in total
00:38:17
Ross had a lot of people on his side he didn't just have his family and friends but many other people who subscribed to
00:38:24
his beliefs and defended him saying all he did was run a website and if that was
00:38:29
to be considered a crime than the CEOs of large websites such as eBay and Craigslist should be considered
00:38:35
criminals as well they were painful it's all over the stairs of the federal courthouse with people rallying for Ross
00:38:43
leading the prosecution was sarin Turner the assistant US attorney who had worked
00:38:48
so closely with agent turbo or during the investigation he explained to the jury how all the technology worked and
00:38:56
he showed them the chat logs between the Dread Pirate Roberts and several employees and users including all the
00:39:02
chats with variety Jones in one chat log variety Jones promised he would get the
00:39:08
Dread Pirate Roberts out of prison was ever caught because with the amount of money they were generating he would
00:39:13
be able to hire a small country - breaking me up but variety Jones wasn't coming to help when Joshua dray tells
00:39:24
turn came to present Ross aside the defense he used was that Ross wasn't the Dread Pirate Roberts he had given the
00:39:31
sight away Jay Tell admitted Ross was the creator of Silk Road but in November 2011 when Ross told his original
00:39:40
programmer Richard that he'd given the site away Jay tell claimed he had actually done it the site had proven to
00:39:47
be too stressful and he didn't want to have anything to do with it anymore after he gave it away he headed to
00:39:53
Australia with his sister and tried to forget about it Jay tell said the Dread Pirate Roberts
00:39:59
first appeared after Ross had already given the site away so everything that happened after that had nothing to do
00:40:05
with Ross he had no knowledge of it the evidence the FBI found on Ross's laptop was all planted by the real Dread Pirate
00:40:12
Roberts Ross had been hacked into the evidence planted the framing the book American kingpin by Nick Bilton
00:40:22
highlights some of the key arguments and quotes within the courtroom sir internal
00:40:28
quote his conduct was brazenly illegal he knew perfectly well what he was doing the whole time he built it he grew it he
00:40:38
operated it from top to bottom until the very end and then there is the defendants attempt
00:40:43
to explain away mountains of evidence on his computer it's a hacker it's a virus
00:40:48
it's ludicrous there were no little elves that put all of that evidence on the defendants computer he knew
00:40:55
perfectly well what he was doing the whole time and you should find him guilty on all counts
00:41:02
Joshua trait L quote one of the fundamental principles in this case is the Dread Pirate Roberts
00:41:10
and mr. Albrecht cannot be the same person saving those chats does that sound like Dread Pirate Roberts you have
00:41:18
to actually enable the chats to be saved keeping a journal like that and then saving it on your laptop a little too
00:41:25
convenient there are a lot of blinking neon signs in this case that have been created to incriminate mr. Albrecht it's
00:41:33
not the same person the internet is not what it seems you can create an entire fiction I'm confident in deliberations
00:41:42
you will reach only one conclusion Ross Ulbricht is not guilty on every count in
00:41:47
the indictment it was great Elle's argument that the FBI hadn't caught the Dread Pirate
00:41:54
Roberts so they settled on Ross because they needed to catch someone he even hinted that the authorities had
00:42:01
something to do with the frame as they were under pressure to solve the case but the jury didn't buy it
00:42:07
Ross Ulbricht was found guilty before sentencing judge Katherine Forrest didn't have an easy Tolin she received a
00:42:20
huge amount of letters pleading to give Ross a life sentence the letter spoke of
00:42:25
his character and how he was such an incredible person and a role model Ross himself wrote a letter to the judge
00:42:32
saying that he now understood the firsthand that jail was a hard place to live but what hurt him the most was the
00:42:38
pain he was causing his family he also mentioned that when he started Silk Road he had been naive and he now regretted
00:42:45
his actions he ended the letter with I've had my youth and I know you must take away my middle years but please
00:42:53
leave me in my old age please leave a small light at the end of the tunnel an excuse to stay healthy an excuse to
00:43:00
dream of better days ahead and a chance to redeem myself in the free world before I meet my Maker
00:43:08
it wasn't just messages of support for Ross that the judge received she also received the very public threat someone
00:43:17
published her home address and personal information online along with a comment that read [ __ ] this stupid [ __ ] I hope
00:43:25
some drug cartel that lost a lot of money with a seizure of the Silk Road will murder this lady and her entire
00:43:30
family the threat didn't stop judge Forrest from handing down Ross's sentence on May 29 2015
00:43:41
quote you were the captain of the ship as the Dread Pirate Roberts and you made your own laws and you enforce those laws
00:43:50
in a manner that useful fit it was in fact a carefully planned life's work it was your opus you wanted it to be your
00:43:59
legacy and it is after that she addressed a point Russ's lawyer had raised he presented a research paper to
00:44:09
the court about drug distribution suggesting that Silk Road could be better for society because it would
00:44:14
reduce violence and it would also encourage the sale of better quality drugs judge Forrest quote no drug dealer
00:44:24
from the Bronx selling meth or heroin or crack has ever made this kind of argument to the court it is a privileged
00:44:31
argument you were no better a person than any other drug dealer and your education does not give you a special
00:44:37
place of privilege in our criminal justice system then she addressed the murders for hire the Ross had ordered
00:44:45
she stated that although no bodies were found it didn't really matter because Ross had paid for the murders and he had
00:44:52
gotten photographs of what he thought were dead bodies so as far as Ross was concerned those murders did happen this
00:45:01
is a heated point of contention Ross never faced trial for the murders so the argument is they should never have been
00:45:08
mentioned in these capes the prosecution and the judge were using the murders for hire to make the case
00:45:15
against Ross look much worse but that's not what he was charged with judge Forrest finished with quote there is no
00:45:25
reason for me to make a choice between these two people that I see that are on display the ohlbrecht who is the leader
00:45:32
of the criminal enterprise and the ohlbrecht who is known and loved what is clear is that people are very very
00:45:40
complex and you're one of them there is good in you mr. Albrecht I have no doubt
00:45:46
but there is also bad in what you did in connection with Silk Road was terribly destructive to our social fabric mr.
00:45:56
Albrecht it is my judgment delivered here now on behalf of our country that you were sentenced to a period of life
00:46:03
imprisonment in the federal system there is no parole and you shall serve your life in prison nobody was able to
00:46:22
believe the sentence given to Ross it was actually above and beyond what the prosecution requested he supporters and
00:46:29
especially his mother Lynn had created an ongoing campaign to free him as started almost as soon as Ross was
00:46:35
arrested the campaign carried the name free Ross and has an official website at free Ross org you know Lynn has uploaded
00:46:44
and shared everything related to the case she continues to speak out publicly about what she believes was an unfair
00:46:50
arrest and unfair trial and a severely excessive sentence from the moment Ross was arrested on October 1st 2013 the
00:47:00
government acted poorly and suspiciously in the eyes of Ross's supporters for starters after his arrest he was
00:47:07
kept in solitary confinement for six weeks and to neither Ross nor his family were informed as to why he was only
00:47:15
permitted to leave solitary confinement during his bail hearing various members of his family and supporters offered
00:47:22
every economic resource they had including their own homes to bail Rossi out they also wrote a lot of letters to
00:47:28
the judge about his good character but it was all in vain Ross wasn't given bail because he was considered a
00:47:36
dangerous individual due to the murder-for-hire allegations two months after the bail hearing the
00:47:42
murder-for-hire charges were officially dropped the bail was still denied in preparation for the trial more problems
00:47:51
arose Ross was given permission by the court to help his attorneys review the evidence against him however the
00:47:58
evidence against him equalled six terabytes or 2.5 billion single-spaced pages and for long periods of time he
00:48:05
was not given either a laptop or software to review the evidence in the trial itself two important witnesses
00:48:13
from the defense weren't allowed to take the stand one of them was Andre Assante
00:48:17
innopolis a Bitcoin expert and the other was Stephen pehlivan a computer networking and security expert from
00:48:24
Columbia University both men are very well known in their fields the defense wanted Antonopoulos
00:48:32
to give a real and clear view of how Bitcoin works since it's a complicated matter and it was likely few of the
00:48:38
jurors if any had any idea about it in Bellavance case the defense wanted him to explain how the FBI's version of
00:48:47
how they found Silk Road server sounded a bit too good to be true the FBI's version was challenged by
00:48:54
various security experts and the defense wanted to explore further but neither Antonopoulos nor bail oven
00:49:01
were allowed to testify the judge stated both witnesses were unnecessary but the
00:49:07
government was allowed to call their Bitcoin expert one who worked as a consultant for the FBI and was paid to
00:49:13
take the stand Christabel who had led Ross's arrest and their discovery of the Silk Road server
00:49:21
never took the stand furthermore there was an entire new revelation about Jarod der-yeghiayan investigation thirteen
00:49:31
days before the trial began the defense was provided with five thousand pages of
00:49:36
the investigation Jared had conducted within those pages Jared had actually named somebody else who he thought could
00:49:43
be the Dread Pirate Roberts this other suspect was around Ross's age had operated as a Bitcoin launderer had a
00:49:51
computer programming background was a computer systems developer and had operated different websites including
00:49:58
Bitcoin talk the forum where one of the first posts promoting Silk Road appeared
00:50:03
other agents had spoken to this suspect and he allegedly offered to give them the name of the real Dread Pirate
00:50:08
Roberts if they left him alone there was a few weeks later the Ross Ulbricht was
00:50:13
arrested the defense wanted to explore this further and on the third day of the trial joshua trade tell Ross's lawyer
00:50:22
started cross-examining Jared about his other suspect but he was stopped before he could really start Saren Turner from
00:50:31
the prosecution objected to any line of questioning that led down the path of another Dread Pirate Roberts he argued
00:50:38
that the whole point of the trial was that Ross was the Dread Pirate Roberts the court was adjourned for a couple of
00:50:44
days to enable a decision to be made when the trial resumed the judge agreed with the prosecution and any questioning
00:50:52
on Jared's other suspect all in all roses mum win states that the government conducted a very controlled narrative
00:51:04
before throughout and after the trial she said the facts presented were very carefully selected to tell the story the
00:51:11
government wanted to tell injustice had been far from served recently in an interview Ling gave with daily coined
00:51:19
org she said this about the justice system quote I have been absolutely shocked at how
00:51:27
I've seen it operate in this case and of course in many others and so I had my eyes opened over and over again and I
00:51:34
feel like what I've seen is so really concerning and frightened that everyone should care because our justice system
00:51:40
is so broken and so our constitutional protections are being eroded and there's so much unfairness that it really is
00:51:47
shocking and I've become a lot more skeptical and a lot more outraged not only for Ross but for so many Ross was
00:51:59
actually sentenced to two terms of life imprisonment without parole and was given 40 years on top as well what Lynn
00:52:07
and Ross's supporters consider most unfair is that the sentencing is based primarily on the fact that he ran Silk
00:52:13
Road hence he's taking the blame for all of the crimes others committed inside Silk Road consider his sentence to
00:52:22
infamous serial killer and the cult leader Charles Manson Manson and other members of the Manson family at least
00:52:28
were able to apply for parole Ross will never have that chance Ross's computer contained a large amount
00:52:36
of evidence but to this day some question if all that evidence truly belonged to him some still firmly
00:52:43
believe he was framed by the real Dread Pirate Roberts and there are others who feel that even if all the evidence was
00:52:50
his it was obtained illegally one of the main points made by the defense was that
00:52:56
no proper warrants were granted before searching inside Ross's computer which was a violation of his Fourth Amendment
00:53:02
rights however the judge ruled that there were proper warrants in place and his Fourth Amendment rights were not
00:53:08
infringed the appeal judges agreed with the trial judge on this point apart from the chat
00:53:17
logs of the Dread Pirate Roberts his personal diary and catching Ross red-handed in the mastermind section of
00:53:23
Silk Road they also found a lot of money on Ross's computer he had 144 thousand bitcoins
00:53:30
worth close to around 20 million dollars at the time of his arrest these were optioned off by the US
00:53:37
government and by the time the option was hold the price of Bitcoin had gone up so they were able to get 50 million
00:53:47
the FBI also found a folder that contained all the process employee IDs that he kept as part of his security
00:53:53
measures one of those IDs belonged to Roger Thomas Clark a 54 year old Canadian men the FBI Homeland Security
00:54:03
in the DEA believe Roger Thomas Clark is variety Jones they tracked him down hiding out in a hotel room in Thailand
00:54:11
he was arrested and he's still being held in Thailand awaiting extradition to the United States where he's expected to
00:54:18
face trial for narcotics trafficking in the money-laundering in total more than 100 people were arrested in 43 different
00:54:27
countries who are they the board or sold from Silk Road or worked for Silk Road Curtis green who Ross paid knob to kill
00:54:35
was facing up to 40 years in prison however the judge took into account that Curtis was tortured and had a murder
00:54:42
faked by government officials so he gave him a sentence of time served Curtis now
00:54:48
sells Silk Road hurts t-shirts and his writing and memoir about his time as a Silk Road employee as for Carl force the
00:54:58
Baltimore DEA agent who posed as not on Silk Road he was given an award for his work on the case Carl even thought about
00:55:07
going in the same direction as Curtis and contacted book publishers and studios in Hollywood he wanted to sell
00:55:13
the story of the DEA agent who helped bring down Silk Road but it wasn't long before things started falling apart for
00:55:20
Carl the FBI I entered the IRS been tracing the bitcoins that had entered and left Silk Road they found
00:55:28
that some bitcoins went straight into an account owned by Carl force they started
00:55:34
an undercover investigation on him and they began finding other things they found especially incriminating messages
00:55:40
to the Dread Pirate Roberts from someone under the pseudonym French made French made was another identity Carl had
00:55:48
created he had done it shortly before Ross's arrest under the French made account Carl told the Dread Pirate
00:55:55
Roberts he had information he would want to hear for that information Carl asked
00:56:00
for $100,000 and Ross paid it but Carl made a big error in the messages under the French made account he signed off
00:56:10
using his real name Carl he realized this error and sent another message saying his real name was Carla but he
00:56:18
was fooling no one after investigating further they eventually uncovered all of the other encrypted and deleted messages
00:56:26
Carl had sent the Dread Pirate Roberts under his other account names of nob and Kevin in total from the fake murder hit
00:56:34
and the information he sold about the case Carl had pocketed seven hundred and fifty seven thousand dollars Carl
00:56:42
surrendered and pled guilty to the charges he was sentenced to six and a half years in federal prison he wasn't
00:56:50
the only one involved in the investigation who was up to no good either Secret Service agent Shawn
00:56:55
bridges who Carl had teamed up with at one point had stolen big coins as well Ross had been wrong all along he ordered
00:57:04
the hit on the wrong person Curtis Green wasn't the one who stole three hundred and fifty thousand dollars
00:57:10
worth of bitcoins from him it was Sean Bridges who stole them during the arrest of Curtis green bridges saw that Curtis
00:57:18
had access to many users bitcoins when no one was watching bridges redirected three hundred and fifty thousand dollars
00:57:25
worth into an account with a fake business name bridges actually returned to Curtis as computer install even more
00:57:33
money after that the FBI eventually found that these missing bitcoins pointed to bridges so they started an
00:57:40
undercover investigation on him as well bridges found out about the investigation and he had a fake passport
00:57:47
and a bulletproof vest on him when he was arrested trying to leave the country bridges pled guilty to the charges in
00:57:54
total he had stolen over eight hundred thousand dollars he was given a sentence of close to six years
00:58:02
as for Gary Alfred who's Google searchers found the Dread Pirate Roberts he still works for the IRS and after the
00:58:10
Silk Road case he was given an award which he keeps on his desk it reads the Sherlock Holmes of cyberspace FBI agent
00:58:21
Christabel left the FBI after someone posted all of his personal information online in retaliation for his work on
00:58:27
the case his home address and his children's school address were posted he now works for a cyber consultancy
00:58:35
company where he assists the government and businesses on cyber related crimes on November 6 2013 just one month after
00:58:47
Ross's arrest Silk Road 2.0 opened for business a moderator from the original Silk Road site posted the following
00:58:55
announcement taken from the book silk wrote by Arlene Hornsby ladies and gentlemen I would like to announce our
00:59:03
new home as I've always stated even with Silk Road itself you should act at all times as though any site or marketplace
00:59:10
you visit has been compromised from the very beginning that is the only way to ensure that you do not become relaxed
00:59:17
with your security do not fall into a false sense of security at any time on any site do not get comfortable when you
00:59:25
get comfortable you get confident when you get confident you get cocky and when you get cocky you get caught with the
00:59:33
necessary security warnings out of the way I look forward to seeing you all over and then you saw it
00:59:39
let law-enforcement waste their time and resources whilst we make a statement to
00:59:44
the world that we will not only our jackbooted government thugs trample our freedom we are born free yet moments
00:59:50
later we are shackled by the rule of law it is time once again to break free of those shackles
00:59:59
in the beginning Silk Road 2.0 was the answer for all those who missed the original Silk Road there were even some
01:00:06
of the same moderators but it didn't last long some of the moderators were arrested and Silk Road 2.0 was shut down
01:00:15
then Silk Road 3.0 appeared a number of other black-market websites also appeared under various names but there
01:00:24
are those who feel these sites are nothing more than scams or law enforcement traps in May 2017 bross lost
01:00:33
an appeal against his life sentence one of the judges on the three-judge panel said this quote reasonable people may
01:00:42
and do disagree about the social utility of harsh sentences for the distribution
01:00:46
of controlled substances or even of criminal prohibition of their sale and use at all it is very possible that at
01:00:54
some future point we will come to regard these policies as tragic mistakes and adopt a less punitive and more effective
01:01:00
methods of reducing the incidence and costs of drug use at this point in our history however the democratically
01:01:08
elected representatives of the people have opted for a policy of prohibition backed by severe punishment courts have
01:01:15
the power to condemn a young men to die in prison and judges must exercise that power only in a small number of cases
01:01:22
after the deepest thought into reflection although we might not have imposed the same sentence ourselves in
01:01:29
the first instance on the facts of this case our life sentence was within the range of permissible decisions
01:01:39
in March 2012 Ross Ulbricht aka the Dread Pirate Roberts wrote the following post on the Silk Road forums
01:01:49
someday we could be a shining beacon of hope for the oppressed people of the world just as so many oppressed and
01:01:56
violated souls have found refuge here already will it happen overnight no will it happen in a lifetime I don't know is
01:02:06
it worth fighting for until my last breath of course once you've seen what's possible how can you do otherwise how
01:02:15
can you plug yourself into their tax ceding life sucking violent sadistic war mongering oppressive machine ever again
01:02:23
how can you knew when you felt the power of your own legs felt them stretch and flex as you learn to walk and think as a
01:02:31
free person I would rather live my life in rags now than in golden chains and now we can have both now it is
01:02:40
profitable to throw off one's chains with amazing crypto technology reducing the risk of doing so dramatically
01:02:46
how many nations have yet to be filled in the world of anonymous online markets the opportunity to prosper and take part
01:02:54
in a revolution of epic proportions is at our fingertips [Music] judge Katherine Forrest during the
01:03:02
sentencing of Ross Ulbricht aka the Dread Pirate Roberts on make this judgement mindful of the crimes that you
01:03:10
have committed and their needs for the severus possible penalty to be imposed there must be no doubt that lawlessness
01:03:17
will not be tolerated there must be no doubt that no one is above the law no matter the education or the privileges
01:03:24
all stand equal before the law there must be no doubt that you cannot run a massive criminal enterprise and because
01:03:31
it occurred over the Internet minimize the crime committed on that basis for those considering stepping
01:03:38
into your shoes carrying some flag some misguided flag or doing something similar they need to understand very
01:03:46
clearly and without equivocation that if you break the law this way there will be
01:03:52
very very severe consequences [Music] you [Music]

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Episode Highlights

  • Ross's Identity Crisis
    Ross Ulbricht creates a new identity as Joshua Terry to escape his past.
    “He found a room to rent on Craigslist, paid cash, and said his name was Joshua.”
    @ 02m 03s
    November 20, 2018
  • The Agents Knock
    Homeland Security agents confront Ross about his fake IDs, leading to a tense moment.
    “Ross froze when he saw the agents; he thought it could only mean one thing.”
    @ 02m 28s
    November 20, 2018
  • The Breakthrough Discovery
    Gary Alford connects Ross Ulbricht to the Dread Pirate Roberts through a Google search.
    “Garry Alford had found the Dread Pirate Roberts from a google search.”
    @ 17m 58s
    November 20, 2018
  • The Arrest of Ross Ulbricht
    FBI agents executed a carefully planned arrest of Ross Ulbricht at the library.
    “They took Ross by the arms and screamed at him to stay still.”
    @ 32m 38s
    November 20, 2018
  • Trial and Sentencing
    Ross Ulbricht faced trial for his role in Silk Road, with significant public support.
    “His family denied the allegations saying Ross wasn't capable of doing what the FBI were alleging.”
    @ 35m 12s
    November 20, 2018
  • Judge's Sentencing Remarks
    Judge Forrest delivered a powerful statement during sentencing, emphasizing Ross's responsibility.
    “You were the captain of the ship as the Dread Pirate Roberts.”
    @ 43m 41s
    November 20, 2018
  • The Life Sentence
    Ross Ulbricht is sentenced to life in prison without parole, a decision met with disbelief.
    “Nobody was able to believe the sentence given to Ross.”
    @ 46m 22s
    November 20, 2018
  • Lynn's Campaign for Justice
    Lynn Ulbricht leads an ongoing campaign to free her son Ross, claiming an unfair trial.
    “Lynn has uploaded and shared everything related to the case.”
    @ 46m 38s
    November 20, 2018
  • Silk Road 2.0 Emerges
    Just a month after Ross's arrest, Silk Road 2.0 opens, continuing the legacy of the original.
    “It is time once again to break free of those shackles.”
    @ 59m 56s
    November 20, 2018
  • Judicial Reflection on Sentencing
    A judge reflects on the harshness of sentencing policies in drug-related cases.
    “Reasonable people may and do disagree about the social utility of harsh sentences.”
    @ 01h 00m 36s
    November 20, 2018

Episode Quotes

  • This was it, his worst fears had come true.
    Will a new identity save the Silk Road’s creator? (Part 3/3)
  • I’m right, I’m sure of it!
    Will a new identity save the Silk Road’s creator? (Part 3/3)
  • It's him!
    Will a new identity save the Silk Road’s creator? (Part 3/3)
  • Please leave a small light at the end of the tunnel.
    Will a new identity save the Silk Road’s creator? (Part 3/3)
  • Our justice system is so broken and so our constitutional protections are being eroded.
    Will a new identity save the Silk Road’s creator? (Part 3/3)
  • I would rather live my life in rags now than in golden chains.
    Will a new identity save the Silk Road’s creator? (Part 3/3)

Key Moments

  • Identity Change02:07
  • Discovery17:58
  • Library Arrest32:38
  • Trial Begins38:12
  • Sentencing Day43:37
  • Silk Road 2.058:43
  • Judicial Reflection1:00:36
  • Freedom vs. Chains1:02:34

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