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so you wish to enter Liam meowan's mind well be my guest this is the message that greeted
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visitors to the now defunct website amyboya.com clicking a button labeled enter loaded a
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new page that featured a photo of a young man with short hair and a goatee he wore a heavy jacket and sunglasses
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in one hand he hold an assault rifle with a finger resting on the trigger the accompanying text read
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grading infidels I am Leia meowans who am I well if I had 20 people buried in my backyard my neighbors would have
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described me as quiet and basically kept to himself [Music] [Music] [Music] even those closest to Liam yowan's knew
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very little about him Liam hailed from the city of Nashua in the American state of New Hampshire
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he lived there with his divorced mother Aunt niece and whichever of his five older siblings were visiting at the time
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despite being constantly surrounded by people Liam was rarely seen or heard he hardly spoke to his family who left
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him to his own devices at Nashua High School where he attended Liam was referred to as a ghost
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few knew his name and he garnered little attention aside from being teased thin and perspectacled Liam viewed
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himself as so unattractive that he wouldn't let anyone take his picture he never dated or participated in
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extracurricular activities instead wandering the Halls alone and eating lunch by himself in the corner
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living off frozen pizza and soda Liam spent hours alone in his locked bedroom he said at his computer playing video
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games watching pornography and interacting online while the internet was still in its
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infancy in the early 90s its expansion into the home environment allowed recluses like liamie Owens to foster a
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new existence online he created at least four websites for free on web hosting services like
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tripod.com and geocities these sites became Liam's virtual Diaries where he vented his innermost
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thoughts and feelings Liam also wrote fiction in one short story he posted online Liam
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described a young man named Willem who always wanted to belong he's extremely low self-esteem and a
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lack of self-confidence made him quiet and withdrawn an outsider looking in Willem wanted to
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approach others and join in their fun but feared being humiliated Liam wrote Willem remembered one particularly
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regretful moment in his dull uneventful childhood that he wishes he could do over again it was the summer of his 11th
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year at a sword fighting tournament in which almost all the village boys participated
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Willem was standing away from the small crowd of gatherers that cheered on their
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Champions to Victory Willem was alone like a daisy sprouting up from a field of grass
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no wait a minute it was actually more like an acorn that had fallen off its tree helplessly cut off from the other
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Willen drifted away like smoke into another one of his Daydreams one of the ways he kept his sanity in his lonely
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life Willem pictured himself as the Queen's Champion a warrior who stood above the
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others his followers but the happy fantasy turned sour as the queen and all the followers had the
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faces of the villagers of his town how can I be a champion I can't even muster the courage to talk to them
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Willem was at Rock Bottom now he knew that wherever he went there would be people just like the ones
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surrounding him now that he would have to communicate with he knew they would look at him and laugh
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at his lanky appearance the way he was sure everyone else did in 1993 while in the eighth grade Liam
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meowans attended a church youth group meeting where he encountered a fellow Nashua High student
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although they didn't have any significant interaction Liam was instantly enamored with this mystery
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girl it wasn't until the 10th grade that they crossed paths again the pair were assigned to the same
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algebra class where Liam heard the girl's name for the first time Amy Boyer shortly after Liam was on the school bus
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when another male student began making strange noises for a laugh a girl yelled out playfully for the boy
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to shut up Liam turned his head and realized it was Amy Boyer the otherwise unremarkable interaction
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was a defining moment for Liam he posted about it on his website it was the moment he fell in love
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[Music] Amy Boyer was the stark contrast of Liam yowens described as gentle caring and
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loving she never left home without giving her mother and stepfather an Embrace and telling them she loved them
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whether it was going to concerts with her older brother having cookouts with her friends or helping her little sister
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with homework Amy valued every person in her life she held on to every friend she ever met
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when she wasn't studying or working at a local ice cream shop Amy camped with her
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family and sailed on their boat she loved the outdoors and everything associated with it
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she lived a full and happy life and looked forward to her future Liam yowens created a public website
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dedicated to Amy and his feelings for her titled amyboya.com on the side he posted identifying
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details about Amy including her full name physical descriptions and where she lived
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he surreptitiously obtained pictures of Amy that he posted and gushed over he analyzed each encounter the pair had
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in one instance Amy drove past Lamb with a friend and playfully yelled out High on his website Liam wrote
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I was so [ __ ] up in the head it didn't even register to respond in his senior year Liam enrolled in the
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same classes as Amy hoping it would draw them together I need a daily intake of Amy he admitted
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online when Amy apparently caught wind of his Crush Liam was mortified he pondered about it online writing
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this actually is not necessarily a bad thing as this only heightens Amy's awareness of me in a major way
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from that point on whenever Liam and Amy were in the same vicinity Liam felt like
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Amy was thinking about him they once passed by one another in the School lunchroom
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Liam avoided making contact but Amy brushed against him in a way that Liam perceived as intentional
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dissecting her behavior online Liam wrote she would act as though she didn't notice me whether or not I was staring
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at her to pretend that you don't notice someone uses twice as much concentration on that
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person than if you just ignored them on Valentine's Day Liam noticed that Amy was holding a rose
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he later watched from a window as Amy spoke with the male student Liam sensed that Amy knew he was
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watching she glanced in his Direction three times the person Amy was talking to became her
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boyfriend watching the two of them make out made Liam feel insane he was certain Amy was purposely
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taunting him regardless his infatuation continued to grow Amy disembarked the school bus on
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Woodbury Drive leading Liam to assume that's where she lived at night he drove down the cul-de-sac
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and took pictures of all the ranch style houses hoping to identify Amy's home Liam disclosed online
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I won't even tell you why I did this I can't imagine the absurdity of it he eventually spotted Amy's car parked
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out the front of a home with a foe wishing well on the lawn and a large welcome sign near the door
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describing the sighting Liam wrote when I saw that car and looked at that house and realized Amy was asleep in
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there endorphins flew it was like crack cocaine I have never felt that kind of a
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rush in my life Liam took the role of film to be developed at a local pharmacy when a store clerk saw that the film
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contained nothing but images of a straight car and house they became unnerved and contacted authorities
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Liam returned to the store only to be greeted by a police officer who informed him that the photos had been destroyed
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in hindsight Liam realized he should have taken other random images to detract from the others
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as he left the pharmacy the officer sarcastically remarked you're welcome Liam knew he was being perceived as
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strange but that didn't bother him at all by the time Leah meowans graduated from
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Nashua High in 1997. he'd spent two years fixated on Amy Boyer he enrolled at the Rochester Institute
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of Technology in New York state putting 400 miles between him and Amy this did a little to curb his
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infatuation during mid-semester breaks Liam returned to Nashua on one occasion he borrowed his mother's
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car and drove to Amy's house at 2 30 A.M he parked out the front and watched ten minutes later a car approached from
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down the road it was Amy scared of being spotted Liam tried to drive away but his car wouldn't start
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he had to get out and walk to a payphone writing about this close encounter online Liam said
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I called a tow truck at 3am to get my car from my first attempt at stalking and you know what
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turns out I was so scared that I forgot to put the car in park to start it who didn't say life was fun
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[Music] despite this close call Liam yowans kept a watchful lie over Amy's home sitting across the road in his mother's
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car he'd smoke cigarettes while logging the movements of Amy's family although it was rare that he'd catch a
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glimpse of Amy herself she typically left home before 7am to attend a dental hygiene course
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afterwards she went to one of her two jobs Amy was now the manager of the ice cream
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shop while also working as an orthodontist's assistant she often didn't get home until midnight
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while other nights were spent at her boyfriend's house this frustrated lamb but still he
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persisted eventually he stopped seeing Amy's car on Woodbury Drive altogether Liam suspected Amy had cottoned onto the
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fact he was observing her he felt flattered Liam told one of his sisters about his
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self-confessed obsession with Amy and took her with him to Woodbury Drive this time Amy's car was parked out the
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front Liam was convinced that was a setup by police to catch him stalking a short while later Amy's car
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disappeared again this indicator to Liam that the sting was off he continued parking on Woodbury Drive
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and on one occasion a police car drove by Liam now had no doubt that they were on
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to him after a year of studying at Rochester Institute of Technology Liam dropped out
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dormitory life simply wasn't for him he cried uncontrollably on the bus ride to Nashua feeling sorry for himself
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he lasted a semester at a local College before taking on unskilled night shift work where he could be left alone
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outside of work he was either holed up in his bedroom or out driving around weeks went by and Liam's family saw less
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and less of him they knew he was depressed and wondered where he went in the middle of the night
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but no one discussed it with Liam nor did they enter his bedroom where Liam mostly sat hunched over his
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computer typing about his increasingly morose life in one poem he wrote one day Fades into another people I used
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to know go on together but I stay where I was where I am alone and forgotten I Stay
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adding to Liam's low self-esteem was the fact that he had a condition known as sunken chest disorder
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this caused his ribs to stick out unnaturally he pleaded with his mother to get plastic surgery to fix it but she
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refused and called the request silly enraged Liam threw a china cabinet down a flight of stairs
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it was the first time he had lashed out aggressively and his mother subsequently
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called the police when they arrived Liam threatened to kill himself remarking why don't I just buy a gun
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Liam's mother assured police that her son wasn't serious and the matter was dismissed
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he was arrested for criminal threatening and criminal mischief and ordered to attend to anger management classes
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in reality Liam had been thinking about taking his own life for a while and was upset that his mother dismissed his cry
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for help he visited suicide forums online where he divulged that he'd attempted self-harm but had vomited before he
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could go through with it Liam's charges prohibited him from purchasing Firearms but he saved up to
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buy a shotgun regardless when he went to get the gun it was unavailable Liam feared the police would find out
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and punish him he made a plan to drive his car into a tree at high speed but lost his nerve
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instead he went to the police station and confessed to trying to obtain a firearm he intended to use to take his
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own life the officer allegedly told Liam to go home and sleep it off writing about the experience online Liam
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said they missed their chance to report my statement and institutionalize me oh well
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Liam meowans avoided a criminal conviction and completed his three court mandated anger management classes which
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he mocked Online for being ineffective his firearm prohibitions were subsequently lifted
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Liam went to a Walmart store in the neighboring state of Vermont he chose a 22 caliber rifle with little
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thought calling it a small step into that world he then went to the bordering state of
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Maine into a different Walmart where he purchased the second rifle over time Liam obtained four more rifles
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with each new purchase he became more confident that no one was going to stop him
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Liam posted pictures of his guns on his website and discussed what he could do with them
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on a page titled mass murder Liam revealed that one of his favorite things in life was seeing the breaking news
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Banner appear on TV he relished the aerial shots of people running from a building as a SWAT team
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converged with their guns drawn admitted he wrote to his website visitors you love it too you think it's
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horrible but you still watch it don't you taking inspiration from spree Killers he
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admired Liam fantasized about returning to Nashua High during lunchtime and firing indiscriminately at students in
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the courtyard he hoped to emulate a high school shooting that had recently occurred
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elsewhere in the United States Liam went to Nashua hire to enact his plan but couldn't go through with it
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he screamed and cried in his car before driving on finally Liam purchased the nine
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millimeter semi-automatic pistol from a seller advertising it in the want ads he posted a picture of it online writing
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I took this baby home I just said wow Liam meowans used his website to air his fantasies about killing multiple people
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but there was one fantasy in particular that he zeroed in on over the many years he had spent
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stalking Amy Boyer Liam reached the conclusion that he no longer loved her he confessed online
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I wish I did but I don't despite this change in his feelings Liam wrote I need to stop Amy from having a life
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he wanted her to die Liam gave multiple vague reasons as to why this included Vengeance against
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unidentified people he felt wanted to punish him the Nashua Police Department was also a
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driving force Liam believed that they were aware of his stalking and were attempting to stop
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him he wanted to debate them at their own game succeed where they failed it appeared that Liam was losing his
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grasp on reality his online posts became inarticulate incoherent ramblings they implied a personal relationship
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between himself and his readers though made little sense from an outsider's perspective
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his thoughts were also becoming increasingly dark and disturbing Liam wrote of a plan he had for
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Christmas day of 1999. Amy's family would have four close friends visiting them from Florida
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Liam envisioned lighting the house on fire save for one exit he'd then kill each member of Amy's
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family as they rushed out Liam was forced to call the plan off when he noticed that Amy's stepfather's
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truck was no longer at the family home Liam suspected they were on to him he concluded it was no longer feasible
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to Target Amy at home but finding an alternative spot was difficult without raising suspicion
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Liam hadn't stalked Amy Beyond her home and he didn't know where her workplace was located
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he rarely had his mother's car so he couldn't simply tail Amy around to figure out where exactly she went
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throughout the day in Late July 1999 Liam came across an internet-based investigation service
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titled docusearch.com the company touted the ability to find personal information about any
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individual including their work address all they needed was the person's social security number
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Liam was inspired he contacted docusearch requesting Amy Boyer's date of birth hoping he could
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use it to obtain her social security number Liam provided his name and contact details paying the 20 fee via card
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[Music] a docue search employee called lamb to verify his order asking no questions
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about why he wanted the information the next day docusearch provided Liam with the birth dates of several Amy
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Boyers but not the Amy Boyer he was looking for Liam email docusearch with Amy's home
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address hoping to get better results he also placed an order for her social security number
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[Music] in early August docusearch obtained to Amy Boyer's details from a credit
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reporting agency they provided this information to Liam meowans in exchange for 45 dollars
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armed with Amy's social security number Liam submitted a new request for her workplace address
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unable to find this information at first docusarch hired a private investigator named Michelle Gambino who specialized
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in proper pre-tax subterfuge phone calls and informative telephone conversations
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it was Michelle's job to place a pretext call to Amy this meant collecting information under
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false pretense Michelle called Amy and pretended to be affiliated with an insurance company
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that owed Amy an overpayment refund by referencing Amy's social security number date of birth and home address
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Amy thought it was a legitimate call she willingly handed over the address of the dentist office where she worked
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Liam meowans paid 109 for this information all up and only took him a month and a
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half to gain all the Intel he needed posting an update on his website Liam wrote
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and docusearch pulled through amazingly it's like a dream it's actually obscene what you can find
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out about people on the internet Liam drove to Amy's workplace on Main Street but her car was nowhere to be
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seen he returned multiple times over the following weeks failing to find any sign
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of Amy each time they invented online writing why isn't she there why why why am becoming increasingly agitated
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whenever I scream [ __ ] [ __ ] at the top of my lungs I do it in the car on the
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highway windows rolled up but today I did it on Main Street and everyone heard me
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by the next day Liam had come to town but admitted I'm afraid that if I calm down too much
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fear might take over me Liam typically drove by the dentist office in the mornings but on September
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30 he went at 4pm for the first time he saw Amy leaving he realized she worked in the afternoons
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and that's why he hadn't encountered her sooner it was such a rush Liam described online
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zero fear I had my gun and still didn't go in I pray to God that I won't have any fear
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when I go there Liam meowans now had all he needed to pull off the final stages of what he'd
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coined to plan Amy it was in operation five years in the making back in the 10th grade when Liam had
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first fallen in love with Amy Boyer on the school bus his growing affection was immediately followed by depression
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he described the feeling on his website saying looks like it's suicide for me car
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accident wrists a few days later Liam added hey why don't I kill Amy too Liam detailed playing Amy extensively on
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his website I have always lusted for the death of Amy he wrote I'll lay in weight across the strait
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further down at 4pm when she gets in I'll drive up to her car blocking her in window to window I'll shoot her with my
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glock Liam continued to return to the dentist office on Main Street one Tuesday he spotted Amy waiting at a
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red light she looked wonderful like seeing God herself Liam wrote on his website
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I may be mistaking these feelings of Euphoria for love maybe it's because I only see her in my dreams
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when I see her in real life I feel like my dreams mix with reality why didn't I do anything it was really
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fast I didn't have time to process what was happening also I can't just hang around she must never see me there
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by the following month of October Liam was growing scared he'd been back and forth to the dentist
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office many times and was starting to question whether he could go through with playing Amy
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on the afternoon of Tuesday October 12 Liam pulled up near Amy's car he waited from 435 to 505 but Amy didn't
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show up Liam flew into a rage destroying things and screaming [ __ ] at the top of his
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lungs later he repeatedly wrote online why am I killing her shortly before 4pm on Friday October 15
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Liam posted a short message on his website referring to a person named Peter it read
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see if I did it the text was followed by a clickable link that opened to a New Hampshire news
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website just after 4 15 PM 20 year old Amy Boyer finished work at the dentist office
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she and two of her co-workers happily discussed their plans for the weekend as they walked to their cars parked on a
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side street less than a block away Amy bid the others goodbye and got into her vehicle
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a Nissan Sentra then sped up the street and came to a sudden stop by her driver's side door
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a male yelled Amy's name then came a series of loud bangs just as onlookers registered what was
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going on there was one final Bang Amy Boyer had been shot by 21 year old Liam yowens with a nine millimeter
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semi-automatic pistol Liam then turned to the gun on himself he was pronounced dead at the scene
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Amy was rushed to hospital where she succumbed to her injuries she had sustained upwards of 10 gunshots
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to the head and upper body for the most part it was an open and shut case from the crime scene alone
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police knew almost everything they needed to know except why Liam yowens killed Amy Boyer
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Liam's family were reluctant to talk they told investigators that Liam was withdrawn depressed and that he mostly
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went unnoticed this was supported by a former classmate of lambs who said he was one of those people you don't
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even know he is there at all a colleague described Liam as a mediocre employee who ignored customers
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investigators failed to identify a single friend of lambs with one detective telling the media
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not one person can tell me that this kid had one friend in the whole world someone who has no human contact this is
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contrary to the human psyche this kid was a bomb ready to go off the night of the murder-suicide
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detectives arrived at lamyawan's home they found Liam's bedroom to be filthy and disorganized
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six rifles were propped up against one war and over 100 rounds of ammunition were strewn across the floor
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of the seven Firearms Liam owned all were found to have been purchased illegally
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Liam's mother told detectives that it had been weak since she had stepped foot in her son's room hence she never saw
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his collection of guns and ammo on a small desk surrounded by soda bottles and cigarette baths was Liam's
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personal computer examination of it revealed the website amyboya.com it exposed the depths of Liam's lethal
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obsession with Amy described as a shrine the content from his website along with three others
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maintained by Liam produced a police report over 500 pages long everyone in the Nashua Community
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including Amy's loved ones were stunned Liam suspected that Amy her family and the police were aware of his stalking
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but this couldn't be further from the truth no one in Nashua knew not even Amy had she known Amy's mother was certain
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she would have raised the alarm aside from Liam's websites there were other red flags
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but Liam played such an insignificant role in others lives that no one noticed the science
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on the National High School alumni's website Liam listed his address as the seventh circle of hell
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he described his occupation as obsessed stalker slash murderer a search of Liam's internet history
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revealed websites dedicated to murder serial killers and other violent and morbid content
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on one of his websites Liam wrote extensively about wanting to kill a former classmate named Darwin
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one day he drove past Owen's house and saw him taking out the trash Liam wrote as I drove by we looked each other
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Square in the eye I was stunned on another occasion Owen entered the convenience store where Liam worked
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Leon felt that Owen had pretended not to notice him so he started bringing a gun
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to work Liam wrote if Ellen came back I'd blow his brains out but he never came again
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eventually I stopped bringing my gun into work Owen was so close to death when questioned Owen had no recollection
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of either of these encounters it became evident that Liam had over analyzed many of his encounters with
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others and had therefore interpreted things irrationally many of the experiences lay him
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chronicled online were found to be largely fabricated this was abundantly clear when it came
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to Amy Boyer Amy had never mentioned Liam meowans to anybody by all accounts they'd never even had a
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conversation and Amy's friends were certain she wouldn't have remembered Liam's name
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everything Liam wrote about Amy paying him any attention appeared to be completely misinterpreted situations he
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over analyzed to fuel his misguided beliefs at no point did Amy or anyone close to
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her type her name into a search engine and uncover amyboya.com when Amy's stepfather Tim ramsberg
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viewed the lengthy police report about Liam's online presence he was brought to tears
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he wondered why anyone who viewed Liam's websites hadn't reported them to the police
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within 24 hours of Amy Boyer's murder Liam's online Diaries were deleted by their host websites and scrubbed from
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the internet the companies denied any responsibility claiming they would have informed
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authorities if they were aware of Liam's online activity a spokesperson for tripod.com said that
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they did their best to monitor online threats but the technology to weed out such Pages didn't yet exist
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just performing an ordinary search for words like hate and kill turned up an unfathomable volume of material
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according to the host sites Liam's posts had only attracted single digit traffic
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they suspected this visitor was Liam himself in response Amy's stepfather Tim said
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do we create websites so that no one will see them of course not I don't think for a minute that Liam
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meowans thought no one was going to see this he was screaming for help and we failed
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miserably [Music] given the pages no longer existed investigators couldn't ascertain how
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many people might have witnessed Lamb's online content however experts did recover a message in
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the guestbook of one of Lamb's websites that read nice page very informative keep it up
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this indicated that at least one person had indeed stumbled across his side and failed to report it
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in Liam's final post 15 minutes before the murder suicide he posted a link to a new site that would later report on the
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killing along with the message Peter see if I did it police uncovered emails between Liam and
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Peter who was reportedly from Greece and had goated the troubled young man Liam wrote online
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Peter recommends I go on a rampage but I don't know the true identity of Peter and his full
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role in Liam the Allen's crimes remains a mystery Tim remsberg became an outspoken
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advocate for website hosts monitoring their content however federal law protected internet
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companies from liability for material their customers posted on personal websites
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instead Amy's family pursued a docue search the online company that Liam paid to uncover Amy Boyer's personal
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information in April 2000 Amy's family filed a federal lawsuit against the docu search
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for negligence and invasion of privacy Amy's mother Helen ramsberg said if this had happened to one of Amy's
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friends I know she would have come to us wanting to do something docusearch's business was lucrative with
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the just two employees and a handful of independent contractors the company grossed over one million dollars a year
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selling personal information docusearch claimed that they could find anything about anybody
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yet neither dokey search or at subcontractors took any steps to determine who Liam meowans was or why he
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wanted Amy Boyer's personal information had they simply typed either Liam or Amy's name into any free search engine
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they would have found his website documenting his intent to kill at the time Liam was seeking the
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company's Services ndocusearch had been notified that their website was being used by potential
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stalkers intent to do harm two days before docusearch staged the pretext call to Amy to deceptively
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obtain her workplace address another client was attempting to obtain the address of a young Texan woman
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in that case a docu search investigator made a pretext call to the woman's mother
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she realized that they were trying to deceive her and revealed to docusearch that her daughter had a restraining
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order against their client [Music] the remsburgs argued that docusert should have notified Amy that Liam was
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requesting her personal information the company should have also made sure Liam was obtaining the information for a
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legitimate purpose speaking with ABC's 2020 an internet expert and lawyer said if Liam the Allens had walked into the
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national detective agency the detective sitting behind the desk could have looked at him and said this guy's a nut
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I don't want any part of this over the internet you don't have that ability to judge someone's demeanor and
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judge whether you think this is someone you want to do business with you're just opening up a door and
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allowing anyone who wants to come through it to do so foreign search claimed they quote could not have
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reasonably foreseen that providing Liam meowans with Amy Boyer's work address would result in a premeditated murder
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they called the expectation that they search records of each prospective client unreasonable and asked
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are we supposed to give every client a personality disorder exam docusearch also argued that providing
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Liam with Amy's work address was incidental given he knew her home address anyway
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as far as docusarch and similar companies were concerned even if the sale of personal information was blocked
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this information was still easily obtainable in Amy's case docusearch said the fact that we're being sued for
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providing public information is absurd it's not a secret where Amy works her neighbors her friends know where she
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worked they also said pre-texting was a perfectly legitimate way of private investigation and accused the lawsuit of
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being motivated by money [Music] in March 2004 four years after Amy's murder the ramsburgs received an 85 000
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settlement from docusearch it was as close to Justice being served as they could expect
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but it wasn't about the money Amy's family simply wanted to fuel awareness about the way private
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information was sold on the internet Tim remsberg has since facilitated A reproduction of amyboya.com for people
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to educate themselves explaining if just one person in the whole wide internet would have told us about this
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page we would have had a very merry Christmas Tim and Helen ramsburg appeared on news
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programs around the country and testified before Congress to support new laws on internet privacy
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Tim said not a minute goes by that your thoughts don't revert back to it you can get
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engrossed in a project but as soon as you're done you think of Amy and how mad it makes you
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in October 2000 Amy Boyer's law was introduced to address the issue of cyber stalking
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it highlighted problems like inconsistent stalking laws between states as well as gun control and the
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sale of personal information without consent Amy Boyer's law spurred a discussion
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over privacy versus protection ultimately it wasn't enacted Helen remsberg warned parents
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we want other people to do what we didn't know how to do back then put your name your children's names in a
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search engine and see what might be out there Liam yellen's Behavior has been used as
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a guide to help identify the potential for explosive violence in young men red flags include obsessive Behavior
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irritability poor judgment death threats and withdrawal although as one detective conceded it's
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impossible to rationalize Liam's irrational mind and therefore one cannot expect any closure
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when Amy's funeral was held in downtown Nashua a large crowd of mourners gathered including loved ones locals the
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media and police Liam's funeral was held the following afternoon only his family attended
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Amy's 11 year old sister struggled to comprehend what led to Amy's death when her father delivered the news she
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pounded against his chest wailing why Daddy Amy's sister later Panda letter to Liam
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yellen's family seeking answers in it she asked how come you never asked him how was
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your day why didn't you play games with him foreign [Music]