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July 08, 2023 / 34:38

This episode covers the tragic case of Vinci Howe, who was murdered in 2012 by a 14-year-old boy named Yinwa K, incited by her former friend Polly W and her boyfriend Wesley C. Key discussions include the events leading up to the attack, the motivations behind it, and the subsequent legal proceedings against the attackers.

The episode details how Vinci, a 15-year-old girl, was attacked at her home after a series of escalating conflicts with her friend Polly. Vinci's father, Chun Nam, was also stabbed while trying to protect her. The attackers were motivated by a personal feud that spiraled out of control, leading to a premeditated murder.

Following the attack, Vinci succumbed to her injuries, prompting a public outcry and a funeral attended by hundreds. The episode highlights the investigation that led to the arrest of Yinwa, Polly, and Wesley, revealing their communications that indicated a plan to kill Vinci.

The court proceedings are discussed, including the defense strategies employed by the attackers and the sentences they received. Yinwa was sentenced to four years in a juvenile facility, while Polly and Wesley received two years each.

The episode concludes with the aftermath of the case, including Yinwa's later reoffending and the community's reaction to the murder and its implications for youth violence.

TLDR

Vinci Howe was murdered by a teen incited by her friend Polly, revealing shocking youth violence and failed interventions.

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[Music] thank you shortly before 3pm on Saturday January 14 2012 the doorbell rang at the Howe
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family home 49 year old Chun Nam answered it standing on his doorstep was a teenage
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boy whom Chun Nam didn't recognize it seemed reasonable to assume he had come to see one of Chun nam's two
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children when asked who he was looking for the boy explained that he wanted to speak to
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Vinci Vinci was Chun nam's 15 year old daughter Chun Nam called for Vinci who appeared
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at the top of their staircase she said she would speak with the boy Chun Nam retreated to the kitchen to
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prepare dinner leaving Vinci and her male guest alone moments later Chun Nam heard Vincy cry
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out in pain and he rushed back into the foyer he was immediately struck in the face
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with a knife leaving a bleeding gash across his right cheek Chun Nam raised his hands for protection
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while simultaneously trying to fight off his assailant the commotion alerted Chun nam's 12 year
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old son who rushed in to find his father grappling with the teenage boy holding a
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knife the teen managed to stab Chun Nam several more times in the face head and arms before flaying out the front door
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lying nearby at the base of the stairs was Vinci her face was covered in blood foreign
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[Music] she was a popular Secondary School student with an active social life into
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many friends in her Spare Time Vinci visited herself with a variety of hobbies including
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dancing for a street crew learning piano and playing chess Vincy had adopted the Western name Joyce
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but her family still referred to her by her Chinese Heritage name Vinci while she Drew friends from diverse
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circles Vincy mostly gravitated towards other teenagers of Chinese descent like her
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reports of the attack on Vinci and her father spread quickly online many of Vinci's friends learned of her
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ordeal through social media as Vinci and Chun Nam were rushed to hospital police worked swiftly to track
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down their attacker Vinci's brother was able to provide a description several of the Howe family's neighbors
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had seen the blood-soaked teen fleeing the area within two hours of the attack police
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tracked the boy down to a street north of where the house lived he was hiding in some bushes and refused
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to give himself up the police fired a single gunshot into the air as a warning prompting the teen
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to surrender the offender was a 14 year old from Capel and air isil about two hours West
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of varnum as he was a miner at the time he has never been fully publicly identified
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in reports he was only referred to as yinwa k yinwa had been kicked out of school five
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months earlier and already had a criminal record for two property offenses investigators determined that yinwa and
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DaVinci Hower were not friends but they were superficially acquainted they shared the same Social Circles and
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were known to have attended at least one Gathering Together months earlier a photograph taken at this party showed
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yinwa pulling a funny face two girls stood on either side of him one was Vinci Howe
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inwa eventually confessed to stabbing Vincy and her father it took a while longer to establish why
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inwa finally admitted that the attack wasn't his idea he had been recruited to kill Vincy by a
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17 year old reported as Wesley C Wesley was also Chinese Dutch and lived in Rotterdam
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when interviewed Wesley denied knowing yinwa or having any involvement in the attack
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in all neither yinwa nor Wesley were particularly helpful to the police investigators combed through the two
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boys social media hoping to establish a connection between them they eventually came across a
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conversation between the pair on the Telecommunications app Skype the day before Vinci and her father were
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attacked Wesley and yinwa had exchanged a series of messages Wesley told yinwa tomorrow you will do
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it yinwa responded okay man is good Wesley then provided yinwa with specific instructions on how to carry out the
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stabbing before stating you have the address you know where to be she has piano lessons at 2PM so you
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have to go at 3 pm [Music] responded okay if her parents are home should I take them with me
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Wesley's final message read yes that's okay recovered from his injuries and was released from hospital
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but his daughter was in a dire state Vinci had sustained several deep stab wounds to her face and neck
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five days after the attack she died the next day 600 mourners marched through the city silently alongside of
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Vinci's family in a show of support the route took them past their house home where a large collection of flowers
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and soft toys had been placed in honor of Vinci at the end of the March a representative
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of the Howe family thanked the crowd Vince's murder was described by her loved ones as incomprehensible
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they asked how could boys aged 14 and 17 without any relation to finzi commit such a
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heinous act on an innocent and defenseless 15 year old girl what could be the motive
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the family also made it clear that in these circumstances they viewed a Dutch punishment for juveniles as inadequate
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they called for yinwar and Wesley to be tried as adults stating that anyone who could commit such a bloody and
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premeditated act of violence was no longer a child the following weekend Vinci's friends
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held a small gathering of Their Own they let Chinese lanterns and released them into the night sky
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one of the attendees filmed part of the service the footage captured Vinci's 16 year old
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best friend Polly saying goodbye to Vinci but it was the tone of her voice that stood out
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instead of speaking with sadness Polly sounded noticeably gleeful [Music] on a November night eight weeks before
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finzy Howe was attacked she attended a party at a local pool center with her best friend Polly
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during the course of the evening Vinci became increasingly irritated at Polly's Behavior
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she felt Polly was being flirtatious and conceded with her new boyfriend Wesley [Music]
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Vincy vented about this to some of the other girls in her Friendship Circle when Polly caught wind of Vince's
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complaints an argument broke out between them everyone at the party saw the fight
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it started with the pair shouting and swearing at each other before turning physical
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eventually the two girls were pulled apart and they went their separate ways Days Later Polly posted something on her
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Facebook page that Vincy took issue with when Vincy commented oh my God how can you be
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Polly didn't respond to Vince's comment though one of their mutual friends replied
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Vincy you have to be careful how you talk and you better learn from your mistakes
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another friend wrote make Vincy stop because otherwise something serious will happen
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[Music] while Polly didn't display any animosity towards Vinci online offline she was
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seething although their friendship group was divided many ultimately took police side
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she told her boyfriend Wesley that she hated Vincy and wanted her out of her life
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despite having only just started dating Polly a few weeks prior Wesley threw his
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support behind her he encouraged his girlfriend Zango a week after the party Polly and Wesley
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composed a threatening text message which they sent to Vinci via Wesley's mobile phone
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Vince's reply to Wesley's text further enraged Polly with the conflict escalating Vince's
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mother called Polly's mother to address the issue they discussed Polly's Behavior but
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their conversation had no impact on the conflict Polly's anger soon reached boiling point
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she informed her boyfriend that she wanted Vincy gone for good wisely suggested they find someone who
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could kill Vincy on their behalf the following weekend Wesley and Polly went to a party in Arnhem
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Polly spoke openly of how she wanted Vincy dad but none of the party goers wanted to confront her about it
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if they did it could ruin the night so they brushed their concerns off refusing to take Paulie's threat
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seriously to keep the pace they made sure not to invite Vincy to the party she showed up anyway
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Polly was Furious she confronted Vincy called her derogatory names pushed her and yelled
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I'll kill you and I'll kill your family Vincy was in tears she seemed to genuinely shocked at the way her former
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best friend was now behaving towards her worse still most of the pair's mutual friends continued to side with Polly
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despite her increasingly volatile Behavior they were more upset that Vincy had ruined the Party by attending
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in the days that followed Polly stepped up her campaign against Vinci almost daily she bombarded her with
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death threats via text messages and social media Vincy spent most of her time on the
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computer in her room trying to seem unaffected and defiant in retorts she sent back to Polly
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in reality Vinci was growing increasingly fearful that Polly might follow through on her threats
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but none of the pair's friends shared her concerns one later spoke to Dutch current affairs
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program newsure saying that she and everyone else in their friendship group thought that police threats against Da
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Vinci had been empty Polly was known for having an explosive personality and aggressive style of
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speaking even Vinci's parents had dismissed the issue assuming it was just typical
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teenage bickering that was being blown out of proportion Vinci's father Chun Nam told nuzur that
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he believed the feud would fizzle out and Vincy and Polly would become friends again
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in actuality Polly had started hatching her revenge less than a month after the fight began
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her boyfriend Wesley knew of a 14 year old named yinwa who was known to carry a knife
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Wesley was confident that yinwa would do almost anything to gain his favor he was right
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when asked yinwa agreed to kill Vinci Howe [Music] just over two weeks later on Christmas
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Day Polly and Wesley met up with the yinwar at a snack bar in a village south of Rotterdam
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there the trio began planning Vince's murder yinwa had attempted to recruit others to
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participate in the slaughter but hadn't found anyone willing to commit he resolved that he would carry out the
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murder himself Polly promised to pay yinwa while the final amount offered for the
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killing has never been confirmed it was believed that it was somewhere between 50 to 100 euros around 70 to 150
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Australian dollars Wesley also promised he would shout yinwa drinks whenever they attended the
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same parties Wesley and yinwa kept in touch over the next few days either in person by phone
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or online as they ironed out the details Polly was either present for or aware of
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all these interactions at first it was decided that yinwa would kill Vinci within the next few days
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however they decided to put their plans on hold until the new year a week later on Friday January 6 2012
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Wesley handed yinwa a piece of paper honored Polly had written the Howe family's address along with specific
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directions on how to get to the home via public transport she'd even provided a description of the
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cartoon character decals on the glass next to Vince's front door and the paint Flex on the pavement in front
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one week later Polly called one of Vince's classmates to find out what time Vincy would be home from school that day
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Wesley was present when his girlfriend made the call and passed the details on to yinwa
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yinwa was already in arnum waiting on Vinci straight hours passed but vincey never appeared
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frustrated yinwa gave up and left upon discovering that Vinci had not been killed as planned Polly was Furious
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she insisted that Wesley contacted yinwa to organize another date for the murder
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at about nine the following evening Wesley messaged yinwa via Skype he confirmed that Vinci's parents would
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be acceptable collateral damage and a set 3pm as the time of the attack Polly stood over her boyfriend as he
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typed tomorrow you will do it on the afternoon of Saturday January 14 yinwa traveled back to Vinci's house
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he spoke to Wesley several times over the phone during the 90-minute journey Wesley was with Polly and the two
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provided yinwa with encouragement to follow through with the plan it was nearing 3 P.M when yinwa reached
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the three-story red brick terraced house belonging to the Howe family the cartoon stickers on the window
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alongside the blue front door and the white paint splattered on the pavement confirmed that yinwa was at the right
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place he approached the door and was led inside before attacking Vincy when her father attempted to step in
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yinwa stabbed him too after Polly's involvement in Vince's murder was established she was arrested
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as with the yinwar and Wesley Paulie was only referred to publicly by her first name and a last initial Polly w
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yinwa was charged with Vinci Howe's murder and the attempted manslaughter of her father Chun Nam hao
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Polly and Wesley were both charged with intentional incitement to murder all three teens were held in juvenile
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detention while they awaited trial [Music] yinwa K was the first of the three accused to be tried
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his court proceedings began in August 2012 seven months after Vinci's murder in the Netherlands cases against miners
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are usually heard behind closed doors however in yinwa's case the panel of three judges made the rare decision to
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conduct an open hearing they determined that the public interest outweighed yinwa's individual rights
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in relation to Vinci's murder inwa pleaded Not Guilty by reason of diminished responsibility
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his defense Council relied on two expert psychological reports a specialist to Child and Adolescent
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psychologist concluded that yinwa suffered from a serious behavioral disorder and Psychopathic traits
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the second report submitted by a panel of clinical psychologists stated that yinwa placed extreme importance on
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fitting in with his peers this meant he didn't even consider refusing Polly and Wesley's demands
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in yinwa's mind killing Vinci was a guaranteed path to social acceptance both reports concluded that yinwa should
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be regarded as having diminished responsibility on account of his defective mental emotional and Social
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Development the defense Council also attempted to limit yinwa's responsibility by citing
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the extreme external pressure placed on him by Polly and Wesley the defense claimed that Polly and
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Wesley threatened to kill yinwa's parents if he did not do as they instructed the court found no evidence to support
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these allegations and concluded that yinwa was a willing participant in the attacks
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they were also satisfied that yinwa's actions were premeditated and not a spur-of-the-moment decision made while
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yinwa was in a quote blacked out State as his lawyers had suggested in while also pleaded not guilty to the
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attempted manslaughter of Chun Nam how he maintained that he'd only defended himself from Chun Nam who attacked him
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the court also rejected this claim as yinwa instigated the violent altercation with the Chun Nam and consciously chose
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to keep hold of his knife as he did so the Skype correspondence between yinwar and Wesley the day prior to the attack
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only further discredited yinwa's claims he had specifically asked if he should also kill Vinci's parents if they
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interfered and was told to do so [Music] in his victim impact statement Chun Nam
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Howe spoke of how his life had turned into hell since the murder of his daughter
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he also bore the physical scars of his life or death struggle with the Vinci's killer
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Chun Nam implored the court to find yinwa guilty and to sentence him as an adult rather than a juvenile
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Vince's Mother wasn't home at the time her daughter was set upon and has lived with that guilt ever since
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let suspects of this horrific act to get their deserved punishment she told the court
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the judges delivered their verdict two weeks later yinwa K was found guilty for both the
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murder of Vinci Howe and the attempted manslaughter of Chun Nam how as yinwa was only 14 when he committed
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these crimes Dutch laws for juvenile offenders applied these laws focused strongly on
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Rehabilitation rather than punishment as such yinwa was sentenced to one year in juvenile detention and a further
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three years in a TBS TBS is a criminal psychiatric facility where offenders receive psychological
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and psychiatric counseling to help reintegrate them into society this sentence was the maximum term
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permitted under Dutch law at the time Chun Nam Hao called yinwa's punishment offensive and urged politicians to
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consider revising the sentencing laws for exceptional cases such as this poly W and Wesley C both pleaded not
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guilty to intentionally inciting yinwa to murder Vinci through her lawyer Polly claimed that
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her wish for Vinci to die was not meant to be taken literally she said it was just a turn of phrase
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that was common in Chinese culture however no evidence was provided to prove this
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two psychological reports were submitted with experts determining that Polly suffered from a delay in social
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emotional development identity problems and a behavioral disorder Polly flatly denied threatening or
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incentivizing yinwa to kill Vinci the court rejected these arguments finding ample evidence that Polly
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intended for Vinci to be killed Wesley's defense argued there was no evidence that messages sent from
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Wesley's phone and social media were actually written by Wesley they claimed that Polly was responsible
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for them instead Wesley was depicted as a Love Struck teen who allowed Polly to have complete
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control over him Wesley claimed that he hadn't wanted Vinci dead he just wanted to scare her
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two psychological reports suggested that Wesley functioned at the intellectual and emotional level of an 11 year old
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they also indicated that Wesley had an over-dependence and attachment to his mother which transferred to poly once
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they started dating the court determined that there was close and conscious collaboration
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between poly and Wesley in provoking Vince's murder both teens were found to guilty
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the court stated that it was shocking and hard to comprehend that a seemingly trivial quarrel between two young girls
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could turn a friendship into deep hatred and eventually lead to murder the prosecution called for both Polly
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and Wesley to be sentenced as adults this was permissible in exceptional cases where juvenile offenders were at
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least 16 years old the court acknowledged the seriousness of the offenses and the Indescribable
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impact that Vince's murder had on her family and the community however given Polly and Wesley's delayed
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emotional and intellectual development the court determined that their sentence should focus primarily on Rehabilitation
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rather than retaliation Paulie and Wesley were sentenced to two years in juvenile detention the maximum
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permissible under Dutch juvenile sentencing laws before they were eligible to be released
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back into society the pair would be required to spend a time in a TBS Polly would face three years in the TBS
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and Wesley too the public prosecutor appealed these sentences pushing again for Polly and
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Wesley to be sentenced as adults both appeals were rejected Wesley C was released in February 2017.
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a probation report explained that Wesley's emotional immaturity and attachment issues were treated through
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Psychotherapy and behavioral interventions the report also indicated that Wesley's
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socio-emotional disadvantages had been rectified and that his self-insight had dramatically improved
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his risk of recidivism was judged to be low poly W was released two weeks later Polly's probation report indicated that
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she no longer suffered from a conduct or identity disorder and no personality disorder had developed
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her risk of recidivism was judged to be low as long as she continued counseling as a condition of their release neither
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poly nor Wesley were permitted to contact each other both were required to continue
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psychological counseling and Report regularly to authorities during their probation period
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during this time yinwa K applied for release the court determined that although he
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had undergone positive development a few incidents had Arisen during his Rehabilitation where he made
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inappropriate choices concerns remained as to yinwa's ability to appropriately deal with frustrations
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accordingly He was ordered to remain in TBS yinwa submitted a second application
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seven months later his risk of recurrence was noted as low to moderate primarily in relation to his
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impulsive behavior lack of empathy and insufficient cooperation with certain TBS interventions
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however the court found that yinwar exhibited a less risky Behavior had demonstrated an ability to withstand
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disappointments and manage responsibilities and showed a willingness to seek help
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the court determined that he no longer posed a serious risk of violent crime rejecting the public Prosecutor's
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request to further extend yinwa's custody Arrangements the court approved yinwa's release in September 2017
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subject to stringent conditions inwa was required to regularly report to Probation Services refrain from drug and
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alcohol use follow a stricter daily routine underground authorities access to his social media accounts and
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finances in April of the following year an advertisement appeared online for the
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sale of several expensive pieces of computer equipment the seller whom casefile will refer to
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as Mark was contacted by an interested buyer two men arrived at Mark's house that
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evening Mark told the Telegraph newspaper that he opened the door to two neat looking
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and friendly men of East Asian appearance presumably her father and son the two men collected the computer
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equipment instead of handing over the agreed 4 000 Euros as payment the order of the men
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pulled out a gun and pointed it directly at Mark's head the younger man ordered mark under his
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knees and instructed him to count to 60 before moving he threatened to shoot mark his
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girlfriend and their baby if Mark attempted anything as the men were leaving after Mark was certain they had driven
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away he called the police it took the police a few weeks before they had the two armed robbers in
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custody the younger one was yinwa K news of yinwa's violent reoffending brought pain to Chun Nam how who was
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still coming to terms with the loss of his daughter he told the telegraph I am not at all surprised that yinwa has
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made a mistake again he is severely Disturbed that was evident from the murder Chun Nam further commented
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I like the idea that yinwar is now in jail I hope for myself and for society that yinwa stays inside forever
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[Music] during the investigation into Vinci Howe's murder investigators examined
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online and phone records of yinwa poly Wesley and their friends they soon realized that the murder plot
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wasn't a well-kept secret between the three involved in fact many other youths were well
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aware of it two hours before Vinci was attacked a friend of yinwas posted on Facebook
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a girl is going to die at 3 pm today 19 minutes later at 1 23 the post received its first response
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the user rode oh my God yet no one called the police the post remained up long after Vincy
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and her father had been struck one user responded to the post about an hour and a half after the attack riding
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whoa I just saw it on the newsman damn just over an hour after that another user responded to the post with a
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warning that read watch out the police also have Facebook [Music] many more of Polly and Vinci's friends
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were aware of the plot since its Inception one of Vince's friends told a news year
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if everyone who knew about it who should have reported something that didn't then I think that 60 people should be
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arrested for being complicit you know because everyone knew about it everyone knew about it
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[Music] ultimately no one who remained silent while knowing that Vincy was in danger
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was charged with any crimes [Music] foreign [Music] foreign [Music]

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Episode Highlights

  • Tragic Attack on Vinci Howe
    On January 14, 2012, Vinci Howe was attacked in her home, leading to a tragic outcome.
    “Vinci had sustained several deep stab wounds to her face and neck.”
    @ 07m 05s
    July 08, 2023
  • Community Mourning
    600 mourners marched silently in support of Vinci's family after her death.
    “The route took them past their house where flowers and toys were placed in honor of Vinci.”
    @ 07m 18s
    July 08, 2023
  • Juvenile Sentencing Controversy
    Yinwa K was sentenced to one year in juvenile detention for Vinci's murder, sparking outrage.
    “Chun Nam called yinwa's punishment offensive and urged for law revisions.”
    @ 23m 33s
    July 08, 2023
  • Yinwa's Release and Conditions
    Yinwa was released in September 2017 under strict conditions after showing improvement.
    “The court determined that he no longer posed a serious risk of violent crime.”
    @ 29m 21s
    July 08, 2023
  • Yinwa's Violent Reoffending
    Yinwa was arrested again for armed robbery, shocking the community and victim's family.
    “I like the idea that yinwa is now in jail.”
    @ 31m 40s
    July 08, 2023
  • The Murder Plot's Awareness
    Many youths were aware of the murder plot, yet no one reported it.
    “If everyone who knew about it who should have reported something...”
    @ 33m 19s
    July 08, 2023

Episode Quotes

  • Vinci's murder was described by her loved ones as incomprehensible.
    The dark side of social media
  • How could boys aged 14 and 17 commit such a heinous act?
    The dark side of social media
  • This sentence was the maximum term permitted under Dutch law at the time.
    The dark side of social media
  • I am not at all surprised that yinwa has made a mistake again.
    The dark side of social media
  • I hope for myself and for society that yinwa stays inside forever.
    The dark side of social media

Key Moments

  • Community Support07:16
  • Attack on Vinci17:32
  • Juvenile Justice Debate23:33
  • Rehabilitation Focus26:21
  • Sentencing Decision26:28
  • Release Conditions29:35
  • Community Shock31:15
  • Silent Witnesses33:40

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