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Who killed the teenagers at Wanda Beach?

November 19, 2018 / 01:13:18

This episode covers the Wanda Beach murders of Marianne Schmidt and Christine Sharrock, the investigation, and the ongoing search for justice. It discusses the timeline of events leading to their deaths, the police investigation, and the various suspects over the years.

On January 12, 1965, the bodies of 15-year-olds Marianne Schmidt and Christine Sharrock were discovered at Wanda Beach, south of Sydney. The case sparked a massive manhunt, with over 14,000 interviews conducted and a police file exceeding 10,000 pages. Despite extensive efforts, no charges have been filed, and the case remains unsolved.

The episode details the girls' backgrounds, their friendship, and the circumstances that led them to Wanda Beach. It highlights their last known movements, including a conversation with a boy described as a surfy teen, and the subsequent disappearance that raised alarms among their families.

The investigation faced numerous challenges, including a lack of physical evidence and uncooperative witnesses. Various suspects, including Alan Bassett, Christopher Wilder, and Derek Percy, are discussed, with their potential connections to the case explored.

Despite advancements in DNA technology, the case remains open, and the episode concludes with a call for anyone with information to come forward, emphasizing the impact of this tragedy on the families and the community.

TLDR

The Wanda Beach murders remain unsolved, with ongoing investigations and numerous suspects discussed in this episode.

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On the 12th of January, 1965, Marianne Schmidt  and Christine Sharrock, both aged 15, were found
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murdered on a desolate, isolated stretch of beach  just north of Cronulla, south of Sydney. The case
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would come to be known as the Wanda Beach murders.  One mention of the word "Wanda" is enough to send
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chills down the spine of those who remember  the case that dominated the television reports,
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radio airwaves and print media of the day. The  killings sparked one of the biggest manhunts
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Australia has ever seen. The police file on the  case is over 10,000 pages long and over 14,000
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people have been interviewed. Police efforts to  solve the case have been described as exhaustive
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and leads have been followed up all around  Australia. Despite the best efforts of police,
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no charges have ever been laid and the case  remains unsolved to this day. The Wanda case
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contains many more questions than answers. What  drew Marianne and Christine to the Wanda sandhills
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that day? Had they prearranged to meet someone?  Or were they just in the wrong place at the wrong
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time? Speculation and many different theories  have surrounded the case since day one. Only
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one thing is clear: a vicious and ruthless  killer has never been brought to justice.
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The Schmidt family migrated to Australia from  Germany in 1958. Along with Marianne there were
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her parents, Helmut and Elisabeth, older brother  Helmut Junior, younger brothers Hans, Peter and
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Wolfgang and a younger sister Trixie. Another  brother, Norbert, was born whilst the family was
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in Australia. Upon their arrival, they stayed  in various migrant camps and then they finally
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settled in their family home in Brush Road, West  Ryde, in the northwest of Sydney. The Schmidts
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moved next door to Christine Sharrock, who was  living in Brush Road with her grandparents,
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Jim and Jeanette Haigh. Christine's father  had recently passed away and her mother had
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remarried and so Christine elected to live with  her grandparents. Christina and Marianne formed
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an instant bond. They were always in each other's  company, they were inseparable. Christine's uncle
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described of their friendship "They did not go out  much and their main interest was centered around
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their homes. They were always in each other's  company and neither went out with boys' . Both
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girls were described as quiet, well-behaved,  they were good in school, they attended church
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regularly with their parents, they weren't known  to hang around any unsavory characters. They're
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even described as being somewhat shy. In 1964,  Helmut Senior passed away. One can only imagine
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how much tighter the bond between Christine and  Marianne would have become, both losing fathers
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they were close to at such a young age. Like any  other teenage girls they had a love of the beach,
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they had an interest in music, special mention for  Elvis, and of course the keen natural interest in
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boys their own age. The only Beach Marianne and  Christine ever visited was Cronulla. Whilst the
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journey to Cronulla Beach took around two hours  each way, it was the only Sydney beach that was
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accessible by train at the time. The girls  had attended Cronulla beach just recently on
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New Year's day that year in 1965, only days before  their murder. Whilst they were at Cronulla Beach,
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they went for a walk north to the Wanda sandhills.  The next day, Marianne visited the beach again
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with her brothers and sisters. Christine didn't  make that trip and on this second trip, Marianne
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left their family for a little while and when she  returned she'd mentioned that she went for a walk
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to Wanda. She didn't say why. In early January  1965, Elisabeth Schmidt, Marianne's mother was
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admitted to hospital to undergo an operation. She  left her eldest children, Helmut Jr and Marianne,
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in charge of the household while she was in  hospital recovering. On the 9th of January,
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Christine and Marianne visited Elisabeth in  hospital. Marianne asked if her and Christine
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could take her younger brothers and sisters to  Cronulla beach the following day. Elisabeth gave
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them permission to do so. As it turned out the  weather that next day on the 10th of January was
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terrible and so Marianne and Christine postponed  their beach trip until the following day,
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Monday the 11th of January. Now in the morning  of the 11th whilst getting ready for the beach,
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Christine mentioned to her grandmother Jeanette  that it would be fun to walk along the sandhills
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again. Jeannette, aware of how far away the  Wanda sandhills actually were from the main
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part of Cronulla beach, some two kilometres,  replied "Don't go today love, you've got the four
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little ones with you, it's too far". Christine  tried to argue the point but was again told
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by her grandmother "Don't go to the sandhills".  So what are the Wanda sandhills and what were the
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girls seemingly fascination with them? The  sandhills, otherwise known as Green Hills,
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run behind Wanda beach and continue north up to  Kurnell. Wanda is an aborioginal name meaning
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"sandhills by the sea beach". Wanda beach is  part of a longer stretch of beach coastline
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that starts with Cronulla beach includes North  Cronulla beach, Elouera beach and then Wanda
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beach. The distance from the main Cronulla beach  to the Wanda sandhills is about two kilometers,
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and then the sandhills themselves run a lot  longer past that. The area in and around Wanda
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surf club and the main beach area itself were  clean and pristine but the Wanda sandhills were
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a very different, isolated story. In 1965, Wanda  sandhills were described as Sydney's filthiest and
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loneliest stretch of beach. Littered with smashed  bottles, old shoes, rusted cans, broken toys any
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other amount of discarded junk and rubbish that  you can think of. This isolation meant the Wanda
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sandhills were a perfect spot for people to meet  up who didn't necessarily want to be seen. In 1965
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it was a far, far more conservative time than  what we experience today. I mean, incredibly,
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homosexuality was actually a criminal offense and  it wouldn't be made legal for another 18 years.
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Certain parts of those sandhills were a popular  location for men to meet up and engage in casual
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sex. The area was also known to attract nude  sunbathers, other couples engaging in public sex,
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public masturbators, nudists, general perverted  types who liked to spy on people engaging in
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sexual activity, who liked to spy on women, who  liked to harass women and proposition them for
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sex, things like that. Cars could be parked  behind the sandhills and there were a number
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of trails that provided access to and from the  sandhills without having to walk along the main
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beach areas. Many local residents of the time were  well aware of what was going on in the sandhills
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and they refused to even let their children  anywhere near there. It doesn't sound like the
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ideal place for two well-behaved, generally quiet  type fifteen-year-old girls to go but remember
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Christina and Marianne weren't from the local  area, not even really close, it was a two-hour
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journey each way. Although local residents were  well aware of what was going on there, it doesn't
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mean Marianne and Christine were aware. It was  1965 after all, information wasn't as readily
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available and it didn't travel nearly as fast  as what it does today. There's absolutely no
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information to suggest that Marianne and Christine  were aware of what went on in those sandhills at
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all. So on the morning of the 11th of January,  Christine and Marianne packed for their day at
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the beach. Christine packed a thermos of cordial,  but she took no food.She instead took a one pound
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note and said that she would buy lunch. Marianne  made sandwiches and packed some fruit. This
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information would become crucial later on. When  they were all set around 8:30 a.m. Christine,
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Marianne, Marianne's younger brothers Peter,  Wolfgang and Norbert, and her younger sister
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Trixie, made the walk to West Ryde train station.  Peter was aged ten, Wolfgang seven, Norbert five,
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and her sister Trixie was nine. Her brothers  Helmut Jr and Hans selected to stay at home and
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complete some household chores. They caught  the train from West Ryde to Redfern, and at
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Redfern they would have to change trains to go to  Cronulla. It was on this first part of the journey
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between West Ryde and Redfern that a 15 year  old male, only described as being tall, struck
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up a conversation with Marianne and Christine.  It's unknown what they talked about but when
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they arrived at Redfern station and had to change  trains, the boy who struck up that conversation
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remained on the train, he didn't follow them. They  didn't talk to anyone else on their journey. They
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finally arrived at Cronulla Beach around 11 a.m.  and when they arrived they were met by the news
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that Cronulla beach was closed due to dangerous  seas and strong winds. If only they had turned
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around and gone home, but they didnt. They headed  to the Southern end of Cronulla beach, hanging
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out around the rocks, and Wolfgang kept pestering  Marianne that he wanted to go for a swim. Finally,
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she gave in and took him to a shallow, more  secluded spot for a quick dip. They then rejoined
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the others and they ate lunch at the rocks. At  some time while they were at the rocks, Wolfgang
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saw Marianne and Christine talking to a boy. He  was described as being 16 years old, medium build,
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long, fair hair. And he was hunting for crabs at  the time with a homemade spear. Wolfgang couldn't
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hear what they were talking about. Shortly after  they ate lunch, Marianne suggested going for a
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walk up to the sandhills at Wanda. The others  agreed, so they left their belongings at the
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rocks and all walked north, beginning their two  kilometre journey to the sandhills. But as they
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got to Wanda Beach, the walk had become too much  for the younger children. The wind was howling,
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it was whipping up the sand, stinging their legs.  So Wolfgang found a spot that was sheltered from
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the wind. Marianne and Christine told the younger  kids to stay put and they would go back south to
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grab their belongings from the rocks so they could  organize to start heading home. They mentioned
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they;d be about 20 minutes. But clearly Marianne  and Christine had no intention of going home just
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yet. Instead of walking south to where their gear  was, they continued north to the sandhills. Peter
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yelled out "You're going the wrong way!", the  girls just looked back and laughed and kept
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walking into the sandhills. That's the last time  Norbert, Peter and Trixie ever saw Christine and
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Marianne alive. After about 10 minutes, Peter sent  Wolfgang to look for the girls. Wolfgang walked to
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the sandhills and it's here that he sees Marianne  and Christine talking to a boy. He describes this
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boy as being a big boy, aged sixteen, long, fair  hair and white cream on his nose. Carrying a blue
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towel, wearing light grey trousers. He didn't  have a shirt on and he was quite suntanned.
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So basically he described him as a "surfy"  looking type boy. Wolfgang says that the surfy
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boy looked angry and he was asking the girls  their names. He decided against following them
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any further and the girls disappeared with the  male into the sandhills. About 10 minutes later,
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Wolfgang saw the surfy teen walking back out of  the sandhills. He was alone, there was no sign of
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the girls. He now had the blue towel tied around  his neck. Wolfgang actually asked the surfy "Where
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are the girls?" but he didn't answer and he just  walked straight past him. And did Peter, Trixie
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or Norbert every report seeing this surfy teen?  Wolfgang's story of this encounter is the subject
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of much debate. It actually changed a few times  and sort of evolved over several interviews. He
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kept adding vital pieces of information as time  went on. Now, there could be many reasons why this
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happened, but it was a source of frustration  for detectives at the time, and as such,
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Wolfgang's version had been treated with a little  bit of skepticism. We can only speculate why the
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girls walked into the sandhills that day.  They were obviously determined to go there,
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Christine had mentioned that to her grandmother  that morning and her grandmother told her not
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to go. It was a two kilometre walk with young  children in howling wind, poor weather conditions,
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it makes that two kilometers that much more  longer. And not only that the actual sandhills
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themselves stretched for kilometers further past  that point. This convinced many people that they
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had planned to meet someone at the sandhills  that day, certainly that was the initial police
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theory that they went with in the early stages  of the investigation. One factor though is that
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Christin and Marianne had originally planned to go  to the beach the day before, if you remember they
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canceled due to poor weather and their plans had  changed. They were now there on Monday. If they
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were planning to meet someone pre-arranged, it  wasn't as easy to reschedule back then as it is
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today with mobile phones and social media, so  if they were in fact planning to meet someone
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in those sandhills that day, it's far more  likely that they met that someone that day,
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Monday the 11th of January. After Wolfgang lost  sight of Christine and Marianne, a witness,
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Dennis Dostine, described seeing the girls hurry  through the sandhills. Dennis is actually the
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last known person to see the girls alive. He  says Christine and Marianne were walking fast,
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they appeared to be in a hurry. They were  about eight hundred metres away from where
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their bodies were found at the time. One of the  girls was constantly looking over her shoulder
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as if someone was following them. Dennis had  a bit of a look but he couldn't see anyone,
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didn't seem suspicious so he didn't think too  much more of it. While Marianne and Christine
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were gone, Wolfgang, Norbert, Peter and Trixie  continued to wait. After a while Peter, Trixie,
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Wolfgang had another look around for the girls,  they couldn't find them, there was no trace of
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them. At no stage did Wolfgang make mention with  the surfy teen. After a few hours of waiting,
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they became aware time was slipping away. The last  train out of Cronulla was at 6 p.m. and they had
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to get there, so they made the journey back down  to the southern end of Cronulla beach they found
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their belongings where they had left them on the  rocks, they were untouched. They made the last
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train out of Cronulla in the right home at about  8 p.m. Helmut Jr. and Christine's grandparents
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were made aware of Christine and Marianne's  disappearance and the police were called.
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No major alarm bells went off for the police  who attended to take the missing persons'
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report. They arrived just before midnight. Two  fifteen-year-old girls, the best of friends,
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they were out for a day at the beach, they walked  off under no duress or threat, they were happy,
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they were laughing. The usual questions would have  been asked. Have they done this before? Is there
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anywhere you think they might be? Could they be  at a friend's place? Do they have boyfriends? Of
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some concern though for police was that it was out  of character for them. They had happy home lives,
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they were well behaved, they had never run off  before so they're not the types just to sort of
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go missing without letting anyone know where they  were, and especially to leave four young children
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at the beach alone. The report was broadcast to  all police stations in the Sydney area. Of course
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the police around Cronulla and the surrounding  patrols would have been paying much more attention
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than the other. And just imagine how different it  was back then in 1965. There's no mobile phones
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to track, no social media accounts to check, no  instant media releases that could go viral and
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keep the public on the lookout, there was none  of that. But even if all that modern technology
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was in existence, it would have been too late.  Christine and Marianne were already dead. About
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2:30 p.m. on the 12th of January 1965, Peter Smith  aged 17 was walking through the sandhills with his
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two young young nephews. He saw what he initially  thought was a store mannequin lying in the sand,
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he went in and had a closer look and it was  there that the grim reality of what he had
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found became clear. Filled with shock, horror,  panic Peter ran to Wanda Surf Club. It's about
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1,500 meters away to the south. He notified the  caretaker Barry that he'd found the dead body
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of a young girl and he asked to use a phone so he  could call police. Police arrived, they met Peter
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at Wanda Surf Club and then he led them up to the  burial site. On closer inspection of the scene it
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was noticed by a police officer that there were  three feet sticking out from the sand, not two,
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and the already horrific discovery became that  much more horrific when it was discovered that
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there were two bodies, not one. Now, they weren't  really buried as such, it was just sort of covered
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with sand and not that deep - the wind overnight  had blown the sand off. Local Cronulla detectives
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soon notified the Criminal Investigation Branch  and more specialist detectives made their way to
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Wanda, including the initial officer in charge of  the case Detective Inspector Haines. The director
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of forensic medicine Dr. Lang and his assistant  Dr. Brighton also attended. They thoroughly
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examined the crime scene and portable lighting had  to be brought in so they could continue their work
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into the night. It didn't take long for police to  link the gruesome discovery to the missing person
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report of Christine and Marianne, and not long  after this a positive identification was made.
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The crime scene itself was two sandhills back  from where they started on the beachside, 150
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meters from the water's edge and about 1500 meters  north of Wanda surfclub. Despite not being at the
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beach that day, Hans Schmidt visited the scene  later on and he had this to say about it. "The
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place that girls were killed was very isolated  even though it was only two dunes back from the
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beach. It was so quiet I couldn't even hear the  waves crashing. You could scream your head off and
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no one would hear a thing, no one could have heard  the girls screaming for help." Blood and signs of
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a struggle were located 32 meters away from where  the bodies lay and there was a drag mark going all
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the way from this side back to where Christine and  Marianne were. An examination of the scene led the
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detective inspector Haynes to say this "It looks  as though the Schmidt girl was knocked down and
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then stabbed. Christine was killed about 20 yards  away and her body was then dragged back to where
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the Schmidt girl lay". It's believed Christine  witnessed Marianne being attacked and then ran
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off only to be caught a short distance away. At  intervals of about every three meters along the
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drag marks, there were much heavier concentrations  of blood. These heavier concentrations were
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consistent with the person who was dragging the  body stopping for a rest. Christine was slim,
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described as a petite girl, so the implication  here was clear, whoever was dragging her may not
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have been that physically strong. Detectives also  located car tracks about 30 meters west from where
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Christine was attacked, showing the killer could  have fled the scene in a vehicle, although it's
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not known if these tracks were related. The killer  could have also easily escaped over the back of
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the sandhills towards Captain Cook Drive where  he could have disappeared without ever being back
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on the main beach area. The post-mortem of the  girls was conducted by the director of forensic
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medicine Dr. Lang at the city morgue. Both  Christine and Marianne were savagely attacked,
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it was one of the most horrific crimes, if not  the most horrific crime Australia had ever seen.
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The attack was so savage that the full details  were never released to the public. Christine's
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official cause of death was hemorrhage as a  result of penetrating wounds to the chest,
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associated with the fracture of the skull and  injury to the brain. Marianne's official cause
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of death was from hemorrhage as a result of a  cut throat and penetrating wounds to the chest.
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There were also clear signs both girls had been  sexually assaulted. Christine's pants had been
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removed and Marianne's swimming costume had  been cut and rolled up, exposing the lower
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half of her bod. A semen sample was also found.  The time of death was estimated to be between 2
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p.m. and midnight on Monday the 11th of January.  The exact time was difficult to pinpoint exactly
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as they've been covered by hot sand. It was  discovered that Christine had undigested cabbage
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and celery in her stomach which she would have  had to have eaten within one hour of her death.
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This immediately stood out as the girls that  only taken sandwiches and fruit to the beach,
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and cabbage and celery weren't on the sandwiches.  As well as this, it was revealed that Christine
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had a blood alcohol reading of 0.015 which would  have been enough to have had a midi of beer
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or a nip of spirits just prior to her death.  Although it also could have been the result of
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her consuming several drinks in the hours leading  up to her death, it was impossible to know which.
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Christine was not known to ever drink and her  family stated that she never touched alcohol.
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Her mother said that she couldn't even stand the  smell of it. They were horrified. Loud alarm bells
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were going off here. The food found in Christine's  stomach was different to what they had brought
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to the beach and they certainly didn't take any  alcohol with them. The food in Christine's stomach
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was consumed within one hour of her death, meaning  it's likely that Christine shared food and alcohol
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with the killer. As a result of the post-mortem,  police were of the belief that they were looking
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for a fishing knife. They were also looking  for a heavy, blunt instrument that was used
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to inflict the injuries on Christine, such as a  rock, a lump of wood or a piece of metal pipe.
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Wolfgang, Peter, Trixie and Norbert were  questioned extensively. On the 13th of January,
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they were taken back to the sandhills by police  to retrace their steps and to try and get them to
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recall as much information as they possibly could.  It's here that detectives first learned that
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Wolfgang saw the surfy teen talking to Christine  and Marianne just before they disappeared into the
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sandhills. Now remember Wolfgang kept changing  his story as the weeks went on and kept adding
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in vital clues. Well, he later revealed that the  surfy teen he had seen with Christine and Marianne
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was in actual fact the same boy hunting for crabs  he had seen them talking to earlier in the day at
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the rocks, so the southern end of the beach. About  a month later in another interview he added that
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the surfy teen had a knife in a pouch around his  waist when he walked off with the girls and when
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he walked back out of the sandhills alone that  knife was missing. Why his story changed numerous
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times is anyone's guess, but it's not at all  surprising that his memory was a bit muddled up.
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Remember his father had just died, his mother had  just had a serious operation and was in hospital,
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his sister had just been brutally murdered and  he was right there. The amount of stress, trauma,
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fear, grief, guilt, any other number of emotions  that you could think of, that seven-year-old
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Wolfgang would have been experiencing is something  that most people wouldn't even be able to begin
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to imagine. He was most likely in severe shock.  There's no such thing as grief counseling back
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then, it was a much different time, people were  just expected to suck it up and get on with it,
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so is it any wonder that his memory was a bit  muddled up? But the surfy teen information from
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Wolfgang was the first breakthrough for detectives  and the hunt for the teen surfy suspect began.
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Every media report, whether on TV, radio or in  print, was dominated with reports of the teen
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surfy suspect seen with the girls just prior to  their death. Now the problem with that description
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is that it matched just about every teenager in  the Cronulla area and not only the Cronulla area,
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a lot of areas. So it didn't narrow down the  search any more than saying police we're looking
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for a teenager would have. Police were quick to  try and make point that they didn't necessarily
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believe the teen surfy suspect was the killer,  the fear being that people who are at the beach
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that day who might have saw something that didn't  fit with the teen surfy scenario wouldn't come
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forward. It didn't take long for police to be  swamped with calls and information about the
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teen surfy. They received hundreds of calls a  day. It was even revealed that a teen matching
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that description was kicked off Wanda beach only  a few days before the killings for harassing young
00:24:42
girls. The media ran wild and Police Commissioner  Norman Allen made a public appeal for that surfy
00:24:48
teen to come forward. The hunt for the surfy teen  was in full swing leading to the media reporting
00:24:56
that four suspects had been detained and were  being questioned, one as far away as Queensland.
00:25:00
The truth was that they were never really suspects  at all and the teenagers had just been arrested on
00:25:05
other minor charges. The fact that they may have  looked like surfies was enough for the media to
00:25:10
label them suspects. It was basically the media  was just trying to get one up on each other for
00:25:16
the latest scoop, the breaking story. A mammoth  search of the crime scene and surrounding Wanda
00:25:22
sandhills area commenced. Police were sent  from all over Sydney to help and even police
00:25:26
trainees were sent in to help. The search wasn't  easy. Remember the sandhills were described as
00:25:32
Sydney's filthiest Beach, littered with all  sorts of discarded rubbish.This hampered the
00:25:37
search for clues greatly. Several items were  located including shoes and even some knives,
00:25:42
but they were quickly ruled out as having anything  to do with the murders. By Thursday police had
00:25:49
secured a front-end loader from Sutherland Shire  Council so they could dig up the sand which they
00:25:53
then put through a makeshift sieve. Army experts  with metal and mine detectors were even sent in to
00:25:58
help search. Police ended up digging 500 tonnes  of sand and found very little to assist their
00:26:05
investigation. The only piece of physical evidence  that was ever located was a broken piece of knife
00:26:12
blade. It was about one inch long and had a clear  cutting edge. It was thought to be from a kitchen
00:26:17
knife. The piece of knife tested positive for  blood however there was an insufficient amount to
00:26:22
conduct any further testing at the time. Dr. Lang  would later testify at the inquest that the stab
00:26:28
wounds would have been difficult to inflict  with this particular piece of broken blade,
00:26:32
although he did say that some cut marks on  Christine could have been made with a knife
00:26:36
that had a portion of blade missing. It was  unclear if this piece of blade was in fact part
00:26:42
of the murder weapon which had been broken off,  such was the savage nature of the attacks, or
00:26:46
if it was completely unrelated. It was 1965, DNA  forensic evidence wasn't a known thing until 1986,
00:26:53
twenty-one years after the Wanda Beach murders. On  the 15th of January, Elisabeth Schmidt broke her
00:27:00
silence. She was still in hospital recovering  from her operation, doctors had let her leave
00:27:06
for a short time to comfort her children when  the news broke of Marianne's death however she
00:27:10
was now back. She said "My daughter and the other  young girl have gone into eternal life. They have
00:27:18
met their maker and have therefore entered a  new phase of existence. The person responsible,
00:27:23
the murderer, has his life ahead of him. How he  faces this life is something I can not answer,
00:27:30
but his life would appear to be, spiritually  speaking, poorer than anything else. He would
00:27:36
always be hunted and haunted. The man responsible  should meet his punishment and I think my husband
00:27:41
would have felt the same way. He should be  made responsible for his action." At this
00:27:49
time Commissioner Allen renewed his appeal  for the surfy teen to come forward. In a
00:27:53
press conference he said, "I renew my appeal  to the youth described by Wolfgang Schmidt
00:27:58
to come forward. He should not be influenced by  published statements, he could very well clear the
00:28:02
air for us in our investigations". The published  statements referred to of course being the media
00:28:07
reports saying that surfy teen was the killer.  The appeals from Commissioner Allen continued
00:28:13
and just the next day he made yet another one. "I  renew my appeal to this youth to come forward and
00:28:18
tell us what happened last Monday. Because he  was seen coming away alone from the scene, it
00:28:23
does not necessarily follow that he's the killer".  He stressed the police are of the belief that he
00:28:28
was quite possibly an innocent bystander at the  wrong place at the wrong time and it would not
00:28:32
take long for police to clear him of suspicion, if  he would just come in and talk to them. The police
00:28:37
really wanted to catch up with the surfy teen.  By this stage, police had commenced interviewing
00:28:43
people who were at the beach on Monday the 11th  of January. Over 20 people who were there had
00:28:48
been interviewed. More than 40 detectives had been  assigned full-time for the case, in what was one
00:28:53
of the biggest manhunts Australia had ever seen.  Reports were continuing to come in from people
00:28:58
all over the state and even all over the country  of people matching the description of surfy teen
00:29:03
that they were suspicious of or suspected had  involvement. Police received thousands upon
00:29:09
thousands of calls and they struggled to keep  up with the sheer volume of information that
00:29:14
was coming in. Many feel that a vital tip off or  a vital piece of information may have been lost
00:29:19
amongst the thousands of calls that were received.  Both Christine and Marianne had kept diaries and
00:29:26
through those diaries police learned that on their  visit to the beach on New Year's Day, just a few
00:29:32
days before their death, they met two boys who  they'd shared kisses with. On the 16th of January,
00:29:38
police made a public appeal for those two boys to  come forward and they did. They were only known as
00:29:43
Ted and Jim. They were interviewed by police  and confirmed that they had met Marianne and
00:29:48
Christine at the beach on New Year's day, however  they had made no plans to meet again. Their alibis
00:29:53
checked out and they were quickly ruled out  of the investigation. On the 18th of January,
00:29:59
the media ran wild that a teenager who had  a pair of blood stained trousers was being
00:30:03
held by police. A pair of blood stained trousers  were found on Coogee beach and they were later
00:30:08
identified as being the teenager who was being  held. Wolfgang was hurried to Randwick police
00:30:14
station where a line-up was conducted but  Wolfgang could not identify him as the surfy
00:30:18
teen. And it turned out that this teenager who  was being held had a simple explanation for the
00:30:22
blood on his trousers, and it was discovered he  wasn't at Wanda beach on the day of the murders.
00:30:27
He was quickly released. Detectives were being  flooded with not only tip-offs about surfy teen,
00:30:32
but they were also being flooded with information  about several other suspicious males who were seen
00:30:37
at the beach on the day of the killings and  the day leading up to them. A sketch artist
00:30:41
was brought in to try and assist putting some  names to the descriptions. It was on the 18th
00:30:47
of January that police made their first appeal to  the public for the boy hunting crabs that day to
00:30:52
come forward. Now, the description they released  of the boy hunting crabs is pretty much identical
00:30:56
to surfy teen and remember Wolfgang would go on  to say that they were one in the same person.
00:31:01
On the 20th of January, separate funeral services  were held for Marianne and Christine. The service
00:31:09
for Marianne was held in the West Chapel of the  Metropolitan funeral home at Burwood and she was
00:31:14
then cremated at Rookwood Crematorium. The service  for Christine was held at St Michael's Catholic
00:31:19
Church Meadowbank and she was then buried at  Liverpool Cemetery near her father. Both services
00:31:25
attracted hundreds of mourners. Detectives and  police photographers also attended both services.
00:31:30
They were working on the theory that the girls  knew their killer and had arranged to meet him at
00:31:34
the sandhills and they hoped that surfy teen  may have been at the funerals. Just about every
00:31:39
male in attendance was photographed for later  reference. At the service of Marianne Schmidt,
00:31:45
two teenage sisters were separated and interviewed  separately by detectives. The father of these two
00:31:51
sisters had just alerted police that they may have  valuable information concerning the background of
00:31:56
Marianne and Christine and they hadn't realized  the value of the information until now. Of course,
00:32:01
detectives were on high alert and they swiftly  interviewed the girls but unfortunately no light
00:32:06
was thrown on the investigation. By this stage  police had started to sort through some of the
00:32:11
sheer volume of information that was coming  through and there were two people who they
00:32:16
were particularly interested in talking to early  on. These people were seen by Denis Dostine, who,
00:32:22
if you remember, was the last known person to  have seen that girl's alive. Along with seeing
00:32:27
the girls walk through the hills that day, he also  saw a number of other people. Two of particular
00:32:32
interest to police were a tall, pale, 19 year-old  male and an older male described to be between 40
00:32:40
and 50 years old with a stocky build and tanned,  leathery skin. Despite their best efforts, police
00:32:45
were never able to identify these two males and  they never came forward. Another witness, Francis
00:32:52
Williams, 57 years old, was at the beach that day.  He came forward and he described seeing Christine,
00:32:58
Marianne and the younger children at about 1:00  p.m. walking together north along the beach
00:33:02
towards Wanda. They were about 100 meters north of  Wanda surf club at the time. Francis thought that
00:33:10
they look to be in a hurry walking quite quickly.  Along with the children, Francis also described
00:33:16
seeing a number of other people in and around  Wanda that day. He saw a male who was sunbathing
00:33:22
in the sandhills and as Francis approached him he  got up, shook sand off him and walked away towards
00:33:26
Wanda surf club. He saw two young boys playing  on the beach, two people fishing on the beach,
00:33:31
a man who was sunbaking with what was described  as "a piece of corrugated iron" over his head. The
00:33:38
media ran wild and he became a suspect at the time  too. It was assumed "Oh, he's obviously perverted,
00:33:44
using the corrugated iron to hide himself, spying  on girls or whatever", but remember it was a
00:33:49
windy day. Poor weather. He might have just been  blocking the sand out of his eyes that was being
00:33:55
blown in from the wind, but he was of interest  to police. There was also a woman who had become
00:34:00
bogged behind the sandhills and she was assisted  by Francis and another unknown male who drove
00:34:05
off in it utility. So not only were they getting  reports of suspicious people sighted around Wanda
00:34:12
that day, but they were getting reports about a  lot of other people who were at the beach that
00:34:15
day who were not necessarily suspicious, but they  were there, they may have seen something and these
00:34:21
people weren't coming forward, they weren't  making themselves known. It was frustrating
00:34:25
police. So they actually released details of these  eight people that Francis saw to the media and
00:34:31
the woman who became bogged in the sand actually  came forward but she wasn't able to assist in the
00:34:37
investigation. Unfortunately they never identified  any of the seven other people. So many people were
00:34:46
at the beach that day who never came forward.  Remember what Wanda sandhills was renowned for
00:34:53
at this time, but there's no suggestion that  all those people were involved in that sort of
00:34:58
behavior. I mean, there was two people fishing,  there was two kids playing. It's unknown why so
00:35:03
many people never came forward. Whether they  were too scared to come forward or they didn't
00:35:09
want to get involved, they thought they didn't see  anything so it was a waste of time, but you never
00:35:15
know. Something that they saw that they may have  thought was insignificant may have been vital.
00:35:21
On the 22nd of January an interesting article  was published in The Sydney Morning Herald.
00:35:28
The article was only very small, buried back  on page 10, by now other news had started to
00:35:35
sort of filter through to the front pages,  such as the health of Winston Churchill and
00:35:39
the Rolling Stones visit to Australia, but it  was here buried amongst other articles a small
00:35:44
headline read "Wanda victims claim lapses".  The article details that Marianne Schmidt was
00:35:50
struck by a car on the corner of Victoria Road  and Brush Road at Ryde on the 7th of May 1964.
00:35:55
She suffered a fractured skull and spent nine  days in hospital. As a result of that accident,
00:36:01
the family had submitted a compensation claim  seeking £20,000. Australia was still using the
00:36:09
pound currency at the time. The relative sum of  money of £20,000 back then in today's money would
00:36:14
be somewhere around half a million dollars. Quite  a significant sum of money. The claim was due to
00:36:21
be heard later that year in 1965, however as a  result of her death the claim lapsed and it would
00:36:27
not proceed any further. Police were starting to  become frustrated by the inability to identify
00:36:33
the surfy teen and their inability to identify  a number of other people at the beach that day
00:36:37
and their lack of cooperation in coming forward to  assist the investigation. On the 22nd of January,
00:36:43
Commissioner Norman Allen made yet another appeal  to the public. He said, "I have on more than one
00:36:48
occasion asked the public to assist in every  way within their power with information which
00:36:52
might help detectives engaged on the case. I  now make a further and equally sincere appeal.
00:36:57
I do this because I am satisfied that there must  be some persons in the community who would have
00:37:02
some information that they have not brought to  the notice of police. It is not unreasonable to
00:37:06
assume that someone somewhere in our community has  seen or heard something which would be of great
00:37:10
assistance in this matter. For example, since this  crime a person may not have been seen in places he
00:37:15
used to frequent or there may have been a change  in pattern of his normal activity and behavior.
00:37:20
It is possible that to someone's knowledge, he has  said or done something which would give rise to a
00:37:25
reasonable suspicion that he might have been in  some way associated with the crime. That is the
00:37:30
type of vital information we would like to get".  On the 23rd of January, a sketch was published
00:37:36
in the papers of the Wanda beach and sandhills  area showing the crime scene and the different
00:37:41
locations where each of the seven people were  thought to be that was sighted by Francis Williams
00:37:45
who still hadn't come forward. That is, the woman  who had was bogged in the sand, she actually came
00:37:51
forward, the people fishing, the boys playing in  the sand, etc, the male with the corrugated iron.
00:37:57
This did generate a response from the public and  it resulted in a number of other people coming
00:38:03
forward who were there that day that didn't  realize just how close to the crime scene they
00:38:06
actually were, however it didn't help in tracking  down any of the seven people that Francis Williams
00:38:13
sighted. About this time, a psychiatrist released  a report revealing their thoughts on the killer.
00:38:19
They believed that he lived in the local area  and had intimate knowledge of the sandhills and
00:38:25
could even be one of the perverts who frequented  the Wanda sandhills. Now this information being
00:38:29
released to the media obviously wouldn't have  encouraged any of the people that were there, who
00:38:33
may have been engaging in that type of behavior,  to come forward. I mean they would have thought
00:38:37
that they were gonna be held responsible for the  crime. The psychiatrist went on to describe the
00:38:43
killer as most likely being a loner who had spent  on Wanda sandhills spying on nude sunbathers and
00:38:48
people having sex. They felt that the killer  committed the crimes on impulse rather than it
00:38:54
being planned out and that he may have acted  out on previous urges he'd been experiencing,
00:38:58
when he saw Marianne and Christine walking alone  through the sandhills. The investigation continued
00:39:05
but there was still no big breaks. It was hampered  by the lack of physical evidence at the scene,
00:39:10
the lack of witnesses, the inability to identify  the people that were seen at the beach and the
00:39:15
unwillingness of those people to come forward.  To try and combat this, on the 29th of January,
00:39:21
the New South Wales Premier Mr. Jack Renshaw  announced a £10,000 reward for any information
00:39:26
leading to the arrest and conviction for the  person responsible for the murders. The currency
00:39:32
changed to dollars soon after this reward  was announced and so the reward was changed
00:39:36
to $20,000. The relative sum of money today would  be about $250,000, so it was a significant reward.
00:39:43
It was hoped that it would encourage people who  were at the beach that day who either couldn't
00:39:48
be bothered or came from the groups of people  who didn't want to be known by police to come
00:39:52
forward. That reward is still in existence today  but, incredibly, it has never been increased,
00:39:59
it still stands at $20,000 so it might  be time for that figure to come up. Two girls who were riding horses on the beach  that day came forward and they reported yet
00:40:11
another suspicious male. They said that about 400  metres away from the murder scene, they saw a male
00:40:18
walking around in the nude through the sandhills.  One of the girls yelled out to him "What are you
00:40:23
doing?" but he didn't answer, he just ignored them  and kept walking.He was carrying the clothes in
00:40:27
his hand. So yet another person was added to the  list of suspicious people at the beach that day
00:40:32
and like the others he was never identified  either. He obviously never came forward. On
00:40:38
the 1st of February, police thought they had  what was their first major breakthrough in the
00:40:42
case discovering an important piece of evidence,  or so they thought at the time. By this stage,
00:40:48
police had been placed permanently in the Wanda  sandhills keeping watch. It was hoped that some of
00:40:53
the people that had been seen at the beach on the  day of the murders that hadn't yet come forward
00:40:57
would be sighted or even hoped that the surfy teen  would show up again. Now, of course, they weren't
00:41:03
in uniform, they were dressed as sunbathers, so  they were undercover if you will. Now a police
00:41:09
officer on sandhill watch located a blue towel  washed up on shore. Of course the surfy teen
00:41:15
described by Wolfgang was carrying a blue towel,  so the towel was immediately sent for scientific
00:41:20
testing, and it was hoped that this towel was the  one belonged to surfy teen, described by Wolfgang,
00:41:24
but all it was was another frustrating dead-end. A  thirteen-year-old boy came forward when news broke
00:41:31
of the towel in the media he identified it as one  that had lost at the beach only a few days before.
00:41:36
The large reward that was put up by the New  South Wales government was leading to all types
00:41:42
of people calling in. The investigation started to  become very frustrated by false leads, dead ends,
00:41:49
hoax calls, false confessions, wives ringing up  about their husbands, all sorts of things and
00:41:55
by now anyone who resembled a surfy teen had a  phone call made to police about them. And while
00:42:02
no doubt most of the calls being made to police  were well intentioned, the truth of the matter is,
00:42:08
it was hindering the investigation. Every lead,  every call that came in had to be chased down,
00:42:14
followed up and that's where it's thought that  vital information that was actually important
00:42:20
to the case could be lost amongst the pile  of useless information that was coming in.
00:42:25
In April on the 19th, two 15 year-old girls were  attacked near Caringbah train station - it's only
00:42:33
a short distance away from Cronulla. The girls  were walking together near the train station
00:42:38
when a 15 year-old male grabbed one of them. The  girls immediately screamed and frightened the
00:42:42
attacker off. The description was very similar  to that of the surfy teen provided by Wolfgang.
00:42:47
So that certainly pushed the already frightened  community further to the edge but the fact that
00:42:55
the community was so much on edge, I mean, this  could have been totally unrelated to the Wanda
00:42:59
case. It could have been any random teenager  just approaching two girls to say hello or
00:43:03
whatever and grabbed the one of them and they've  screamed and everyone's run off. He didn't produce
00:43:08
a knife or anything like that. The full details  of the attack were never released so it's unclear
00:43:12
exactly what happened, but no one was injured  certainly. By April, police had waded through
00:43:19
the sheer volume of information that had come in  and it led to the release of six sketches who they
00:43:25
considered suspects and that they really wanted  to speak to. This included men making sexual
00:43:32
advances and comments towards women, the naked  man seen walking through the sandhills, another
00:43:37
men exposing himself to women a few months after  the murders on the beach and of course the boy
00:43:42
who had just attacked the two girls at Caringbah.  Wolfgang was unable to help police with the sketch
00:43:47
of the surfy teen as he was just too agreeable.  Everything the sketch artist said, he would go
00:43:52
along with, so it was impossible to make a sketch.  But of particular interest to police out of the
00:43:58
six men were two men who they thought would most  be valuable to the investigation, that they really
00:44:03
wanted to identify. The first came to be known  as "the fat man". So he was described as a medium
00:44:10
to plump build, between 25 and 35 years old,  about 5 feet 11 inches tall, slightly foreign in
00:44:17
appearance. He was described as carrying an orange  and white towel, wearing grey trousers and a white
00:44:22
shirt. He was carrying a radio and a newspaper  at the time. What he did, he approached several
00:44:29
women on the beach on the day of the murders and  on the days leading up to the murders. He had
00:44:34
pornographic magazines with him and he was making  inappropriate comments to women asking if they
00:44:40
wanted to have a look through the magazine, asking  them how the sex was in Sydney. He mentioned that
00:44:45
he was from South Australia, so police were  very, very keen to catch up with him but he,
00:44:51
along with so many others, was never identified  and he never came forward. Another man who was
00:44:58
of particular interest to police was described  as being 18 to 20 years old with a slim build,
00:45:02
light brown hair and he was wearing a long sleeve  shirt tucked into a pair of fawn (coloured) shorts
00:45:07
and he had missing teeth. He was also making  inappropriate propositions to women, asking to
00:45:12
have sex with women, offering them money, things  like that, but again he was never identified
00:45:17
either. So it's starting to get ridiculous now the  amount of people that police wanted to speak to,
00:45:24
who they deemed to be suspicious, who were at  the beach on the day the murders, that were never
00:45:28
identified and who never came forward. You'd think  that they would come forward given what happened,
00:45:34
the brutal nature of the crimes but no. They're  out there somewhere, who knows if they're still
00:45:40
alive, but if they are nows the time. On the 29th  of May, a group of youths came forward saying that
00:45:48
they'd found a pair of flippers and a homemade  crab spear about one kilometer away from where
00:45:55
the girls were located. Now they found these only  a few days after the murder, so it's not clear why
00:46:01
they waited until the 29th of May to come forward  and hand it in. I couldn't find that anywhere,
00:46:06
but regardless they made themselves known to  police and the flippers and the spear were
00:46:11
handed in. Wolfgang was reinterviewed but he  was unable to identify the spear, he couldn't
00:46:16
remember if it was the same one that the boy who  was crabbing on the rocks that spoke to Marianne
00:46:21
and Christine was using. It was a promising  lead but it didn't end up going anywhere.
00:46:26
The investigation really started to stall and  by the beginning of 1966 the amount of full-time
00:46:35
detectives on the case had dropped from 40 down  to 8. It was still being worked hard but they were
00:46:41
just frustrated by the lack of ability to identify  a number of people at the beach, the amount of
00:46:47
useless information that was still coming in, that  they were wasting their time, basically. Police
00:46:53
were still assigned to the Wanda sandhills to  watch for anything suspicious, but all that ended
00:46:58
up in achieving was they arrested a number of  people for sexual related offenses but it got them
00:47:03
no closer to identifying the killer. On the 29th  of January 1966, another brutal murder shocked
00:47:11
the nation. 57 year-old Wilhelmina Kruger was  found murdered at the Piccadilly shopping Arcade
00:47:16
in Wollongong where she worked as a cleaner.  Wollongong is in close proximity to Wanda,
00:47:22
it's less than an hour's drive away. The murder  was very horrific and it did bear similarities to
00:47:28
the Wanda case - that of a frenzied knife attack.  There were no suspects, no witnesses, there was a
00:47:34
lack of physical evidence, no attempt was made to  hide a body. It led many to believe the murder of
00:47:40
Wilhelmina Kruger was committed by the person  responsible for Wanda and just weeks later on
00:47:46
the 26th of February the body of Anna Dowling-Koa  was found on Old Illawarra Road, Menai, southwest
00:47:51
of Sydney. Again, in close proximity to both Wanda  and Wollongong. She too had been the victim of a
00:47:58
brutal, frenzied knife attack, almost identical  to the attack committed on Wilhelmina Kruger.
00:48:04
Anna was working as an escort at the time and  she was last seen on the 16th of February 1966,
00:48:10
leaving a club in Kings Cross. She mentioned to  a few friends in the club that she was going to
00:48:15
meet a client and she was never seen alive  again. There was no witnesses, no suspects,
00:48:20
a lack of physical evidence, no attempt made to  hide the body. In actual fact, the killer returned
00:48:25
to where Anna was dumped and dragged her body out  from behind the bushes, closer to the road, so
00:48:30
she would be found. Police are almost certain the  murders of Anna Dowling-Koa and Wilhelmina Kruger
00:48:37
were committed by the same person. It's never been  proven that the Wanda case is linked to both those
00:48:42
murders but many suspect that they are. Just like  the Wanda case, the murders of Wilhelmina Kruger
00:48:48
and Anna Dowling-Koa remain unsolved. On the 20th  of April 1966, a coroner's inquest into the Wanda
00:48:55
case was held. The inquest was presided over by  city coroner Mr. Looms. The amount of detectives
00:49:00
working the case full-time was now down to about  6. The investigation log totaled over 5,000 pages
00:49:06
and over 7,000 people had been interviewed. A  large amount of witnesses gave evidence at the
00:49:11
inquest including the all-important Schmidt  children. The inquest lasted three days,
00:49:15
concluding on the 22nd of April. Coroner Mr.  Looms was of the belief that "there must be
00:49:21
somebody who could shed light on the murders".  He went on to say police had already conducted
00:49:25
an exhaustive investigation, "although we still  hope that it could be intensified if that was at
00:49:29
all possible". There was no doubt what happened  in his mind, saying "The cause of death is very
00:49:36
evident. A vicious, brutal murder". After  the inquest, police stated that they would
00:49:41
be revisiting every page of the police file in  hopes of uncovering a vital piece of information
00:49:45
that may have been previously overlooked.  Unfortunately they didn't uncover anything.
00:49:50
Police still held the belief that somebody  out there knew something about the case and
00:49:55
that person was withholding information, either  because they're protecting someone who was close
00:49:59
to them or they were in fear of that person they  we're protecting. Or they were too embarrassed or
00:50:04
scared to come forward for whatever reason it  was that they were at the sandhills that day.
00:50:11
The six sketches the police had released prior  were made into full-size, lifelike dummies which
00:50:17
were displayed at the Sydney Easter show in 1967.  It was hoped that the large crowds that poured
00:50:22
through the Easter Show every year would be able  to put names to the faces but no one could. On the
00:50:28
17th of March '67, another woman was attacked  at Wanda beach. 28 year old Brenda Gowan was
00:50:34
sunbathing on the beach with her three children  when she was attacked by an unknown male person.
00:50:38
A witness, Trevor Betts, rushed to her aide and  the attacker fled. He was seen leaving in what
00:50:43
was described as an "old, white vehicle". Both  the descriptions of Brenda and Trevor fit the
00:50:48
description of one of the six sketches that  had just been turned into life-sized dummies
00:50:51
at the Easter Show. Many were convinced that the  Wanda Beach killer had just struck again. Despite
00:50:57
an extensive investigation and search for the  attacker, he was never identified. Over the years
00:51:05
there's been three names that have been thrown up  in the media as suspects for the Wanda beach case.
00:51:11
There's no real evidence that's ever been released  linking any of them to the crime it's all sort of
00:51:20
circumstantial and maybe and what-ifs. The first  is Alan Bassett. On Monday the 13th of June '66,
00:51:29
Alan Raymond Bassett from Unanderra, just south of  Wollongong, was charged for the brutal murder of
00:51:34
Carolyn May Orphin. They met each other at a dance  on Friday night the 10th of June and Carolyn and
00:51:42
Alan left together. Later that night, Alan tied  Carolyn up, raped her and killed her and dumped
00:51:49
her on the side of the road. He was arrested a  few days later and later convicted of murder.
00:51:53
He's thought to be a prime suspect for not only  the Wanda case but the murders of Wilhelmina
00:52:00
Kruger and Anna Dowling-Koa. One detective became  that obsessed with Alan as being the killer, that
00:52:10
he even visited him when he was retired trying  to get him to confess. Alan Bassett was born in
00:52:17
England on the 3rd of May 1945. By all reports he  seemed like a quiet and shy normal sort of guy.
00:52:24
He later told police in the courts, when he was  being tried for the murder of Carolyn May Orphin,
00:52:30
that he had no idea what came over him and  he didn't mean to kill her. This despite the
00:52:35
fact that she was tied up, strangled and hit over  the head with a large rock. He asked to be found
00:52:40
guilty of manslaughter, that was obviously  rejected and he was found guilty of murder.
00:52:46
He was given life in prison. Now this murder, no  knife was used, so that is the glaring difference
00:52:56
between the Wanda beach murders and the murders  of Mrs. Kruger and Ms. Dowling-Koa. However,
00:53:03
it was still a very savage and vicious attack.  The savageness of that attack and the fact that
00:53:09
Alan was from Wollongong, only down the road from  the Piccadilly Centre and a short drive to Menai
00:53:15
and Wanda, meant that he was obviously gonna  be looked at as a suspect. Investigations by
00:53:22
police revealed that they thought Alan Bassett was  actually in Cronulla around the time of the Wanda
00:53:27
Beach murders. The detective who became obsessed  with Alan being responsible was Detective Cec
00:53:34
Johnson. He became so obsessed with the theory  that many thought that it was an unhealthy
00:53:41
obsession. It was even eventually recommended that  he resign from the force. After his conviction,
00:53:47
Alan Bassett was diagnosed as a schizophrenic  and he ended up serving his time in a psychiatric
00:53:51
hospital up near Newcastle. So in his retirement,  Detective Johnson paid regular visits to Alan and
00:54:01
was just basically trying to get him to confess,  trying to talk to him about the unsolved murders,
00:54:06
he was convinced that he had his man. During this  time, Alan presented detective Johnson with a
00:54:15
gift. It was, it's been described as a painting  of a bush scene. Detective Johnson at the time
00:54:21
thought it was quite ugly and he didn't think  too much of it and put it away for a few years,
00:54:25
but after a while he pulled it out and decided  to get it framed and put it up. It was at this
00:54:32
time he looked at the painting a little  bit more closely and whether or not it was
00:54:37
actually there or he was that obsessed he just  wanted it to be there and started to see things,
00:54:42
he became convinced that it was a confession to  the four unsolved murders. He said the painting
00:54:50
depicted a clue that only the murderer would  know, however what this clue is no one knows,
00:54:56
it was never made public. Detective Johnson he  went to the press with his theory and it got
00:55:02
widespread media coverage, he even started  to write a book about it but unfortunately
00:55:06
he was killed in an accident just before  the book was due to be released and it was
00:55:09
never released. He convinced a well-known  crime reporter at the time, Bill Jenkings,
00:55:15
that Alan was his man as well. Some in the police  force agreed with him, a lot didn't, they thought
00:55:23
he was sort of seeing things and his unhealthy  obsession had just spiraled out of control.
00:55:30
One person of significant importance that was  convinced by Detective Johnson's theory is
00:55:39
Alan Bassett's father. He actually went on  public record to say that he believed Alan
00:55:43
was responsible for the Wanda Beach murders and  that he should never be released. Despite those
00:55:49
pleas from his father, in 1995 Alan Bassett was  released from custody and placed back into the
00:55:54
community after serving 29 years in custody. He  denied any involvement in any crime other than
00:56:02
that of the murder of Carolyn Orphin for which he  was convicted. In the year 2000, speculation still
00:56:08
circled around Alan's involvement and he made a  public offer to provide a DNA sample to clear him
00:56:13
from the crime. It's unknown if police ever took  him up on that or if the advances in technology
00:56:18
will one day be able to clear or convict Alan of  the crime. There's another name that's thrown up
00:56:26
as a prime suspect for the Wanda Beach murders and  that's Christopher Wilder. And in 1984 his death
00:56:34
in the United States sparked the interests of the  New South Wales place and actually caused them to
00:56:38
reexamine the Wanda case to study any links that  he may have had with Wanda. And the reason for
00:56:44
that is because he was a serial killer. He was  also known as the "Beauty Queen Killer" - he'd
00:56:49
just killed eight women and suspected of killing  more. Through the U.S he was on the top ten FBI
00:56:55
most wanted when he was killed in a confrontation  with police. And the reason New South Wales police
00:57:01
were looking at him and any links to Wanda is  because he was born in Sydney and that's where
00:57:05
he was living at the time of Wanda. So he was born  in 1945 and he had his first major run-in with the
00:57:12
law as a 17-year old when he was charged for the  gang rape of a woman at a Sydney Beach. He pled
00:57:17
down to a lesser charge and got off with probation  and electric shock therapy. In 1968 he married and
00:57:24
that lasted all of a week before his wife left  him claiming sexual and physical abuse. In 1969,
00:57:30
he lured a young 19 year-old nursing student into  his car at Manly Beach and convinced her to pose
00:57:36
nude for a few photos. When that was done he tried  to force her to have sex with him and when she
00:57:42
refused he threatened a blackmail her boss with  the photos. She managed to get away and called
00:57:47
police but she refused to testify against him.  Later that year he moved to the United States, his
00:57:52
father was from the US and that's how he was able  to move over there. He moved to Florida and it
00:57:58
didn't take long for him to find some significant  wealth over there due to booming construction and
00:58:02
real estate industries. In 1971, he had his first  run-in with the law over there - caught trying
00:58:09
to entice women to pose for nude photographs as  he'd done before. The next year he was actually
00:58:15
arrested for trying to force a 16 year-old girl  to have sex with him but he was acquitted of
00:58:19
that charge. A few years after that, posing as a  photographer, Wilder lured a schoolgirl out of a
00:58:26
shopping mall and he drugged her and raped her. He  somehow managed to plea bargain that one down and
00:58:31
again was given probation and therapy. In 1982,  he came back to Australia to visit his parents
00:58:39
and on that visit he abducted two 15 year-old  girls, tied them up and forced them to pose for
00:58:45
nude photographs. He was arrested the next day and  his parents managed to post a large amount of bail
00:58:52
for him, I think it was somewhere around $300,000.  Incredibly he was allowed to leave Australia until
00:58:59
his trial so he could go back to the US for work.  Not long after that in 1984, while still awaiting
00:59:06
trial back in Australia for the abduction charge,  he commenced his murderous rampage across nine
00:59:11
different states of America, kidnapping a dozen  women. Some were lucky enough to get away but he
00:59:17
murdered eight and he's actually suspected in more  than that. His M.O. was to pose as a photographer,
00:59:24
comment about how beautiful a girl was and entice  her out with him, convincing her that he'd be
00:59:30
able to get her into modeling, so it seems pretty  obvious to many why Christopher Wilder is a prime
00:59:37
suspect for Wanda. He was 19 at the time, living  in Sydney and he turned out to be a serial killer.
00:59:42
The one problem being his timeline of crimes  doesn't seem to match up with Wanda. He started
00:59:49
off with a string of sexual offences and trying  to get girls to pose nude before he committed his
00:59:54
first known murder in 1984. 19 years after the  Wanda case, but that is if his first murder was
01:00:02
actually in 1984. Wilder is suspected of being  involved in the abduction and suspected murder
01:00:08
of several women both in the United States and  Australia, well before '84. Some remain convinced
01:00:14
that Wilder is the man for Wanda. Although he  was slightly older than the surfy teen Wolfgang
01:00:20
described, his age is still in the ballpark and  the actual physical description itself would have
01:00:24
matched Wilder at the time. When he was killed  it was in a confrontation with police. He just
01:00:30
had a physical struggle with one officer who was  wounded and then Wilder was shot not long after
01:00:35
that. It's unknown if he was shot as a result of a  struggle or if he turned the gun on himself. Which
01:00:41
most people suspect is what happened. New South  Wales police requested a blood sample after his
01:00:47
death and advances in technology may yet prove if  he was or wasn't involved, but at the moment it's
01:00:53
very much circumstantial with no real evidence at  all. Now if you do some reading on the Wanda case
01:01:00
there is one name that appears in bright flashing  lights as being the prime suspect. He's also been
01:01:06
described as Australia's Hannibal Lecter, which  tells you probably all you need to know about
01:01:09
him. He's considered by many to be not only  the prime suspect in the Wanda case but also a
01:01:15
number of other unsolved child murders and child  disappearances from the late 60s. That includes
01:01:20
the disappearance of the three Beaumont children  from Adelaide on the 26th of January '66, the
01:01:26
murder of Allen Redston on the 27th of September  '66 in Canberra, the murder of Simon Brooke on
01:01:32
the 18th of May '68 in Glebe, Sydney, and the  disappearance of Linda Stilwell on the 10th
01:01:37
of August '68 from St. Kilda in Victoria. He's  never been charged for any of these crimes but
01:01:44
he certainly has been questioned about them. He's  never made any admissions but at the same time he
01:01:49
hasn't exactly denied involvement either. So who  is Derek Percy? He was born in Strathfield, Sydney
01:01:56
on the 15th of September 1948. In 1956 he and his  family moved down to Victoria where they stayed in
01:02:03
a few different places, and in '61 they moved to  Mount Beauty in the northeast of Victoria. Derek
01:02:09
was as always known as a little bit different,  a bit of a loner, a little hard to get to know.
01:02:16
In 1964 in the Mount Beauty area, women's  underwear started to disappear off clotheslines
01:02:21
and even from inside some houses. The whispers  around town were that Derek was responsible but it
01:02:27
was never proven. That is until later on that year  in the summer of '64, when two of his schoolmates
01:02:34
made their way down to a popular local swimming  hole. Along the way, they saw something that was
01:02:39
so twisted that no one believed their story -  everyone thought they were just making it up.
01:02:44
That is until a few years later. What they saw  was Derek walking around in a woman's petticoat.
01:02:52
Derek didn't see them and they didn't call out,  instead they decided to hide and try and work out
01:02:58
what the hell he was doing. What they saw next was  Derek pull out a knife and he started stabbing a
01:03:04
pair of women's underpants that he had with him.  Once he was done there, he defecated in the river
01:03:08
and then walked off. The kids of course questioned  Derek about it but he denied it and the other kids
01:03:14
and other people in the town didn't really believe  the story. They knew Derek was a bit different but
01:03:19
that behavior seemed a bit quite a stretch. It  was around this time that Derek started keeping
01:03:26
journals outlining sexual references towards  children, so it's at this time that the beginnings
01:03:33
of an extremely dark twisted path started  for Derek. In 1966, they moved to Khancoban,
01:03:41
New South Wales, just north of the Victorian  border. Derek indecently assaulted two young
01:03:47
girls while living here. They were two sisters  and they live next door to the Percy family - the
01:03:52
youngest was 6. Derek lured them into a caravan  and got them to take their pants off. Percy was
01:03:58
actually caught out and for some reason the  police weren't notified, instead the girl's
01:04:03
father left it to Derek's father to discipline  him. Derek's diary entries continued to get darker
01:04:10
and increasingly violent. One diary entry made  specific mention of a plan to kidnap two girls
01:04:15
and take them to a secluded place. He joined  the Navy on the 25th of November 1967 and it
01:04:21
was while he was in the Navy he was arrested for  the horrific murder of 12 year old Yvonne Tuohy.
01:04:27
Yvonne and her friend Shane, who was aged 11,  decided to go for a walk and during this walk they
01:04:33
got separated. Derek pounced on Yvonne, he pulled  out a knife and held her by knifepoint. Shane made
01:04:40
his way back and discovered what was going on.  He produced the tomahawk that he was carrying to
01:04:46
chop firewood and he managed to escape, and it was  his description of Derek and Derek's vehicle that
01:04:52
he'd seen him drive off in that was crucial and  allowed police to arrest Derek only a few hours
01:04:59
after the abduction. He was arrested at nearby  Flinders Naval Depot where he was based at the
01:05:04
time, listening to a radio reporter of Yvonne's  disappearance, trying to wash her blood out of his
01:05:09
clothes. Unfortunately, when they caught up with  Derek, Yvonne was already dead. The search of his
01:05:15
belongings revealed sickening journal entries and  drawings depicting the rape, torture and murder
01:05:20
of children. He even had an entry detailing his  desire to kidnap a young boy and girl just as he
01:05:26
had done or tried to do with Shane a few hours  before. The murder was one of the worst that
01:05:32
detectives had seen, if not the worst and the  facts are too horrible to go about in detail,
01:05:37
but in short, Yvonne was strangled, mutilated and  sexually assaulted. Derek stood trial on the 2nd
01:05:44
of April 1970 at the Melbourne Supreme Court.  After a six day trial he was found not guilty
01:05:49
by reason of insanity, but he was ordered to  be kept in custody at the governor's leisure
01:05:54
which means indefinitely. And fortunately, that's  where he remained until he died in 2013. Despite
01:06:03
being suspected of many other crimes, the murder  of Yvonne Tuohy is the crime, the only crime,
01:06:07
that he was ever charged with. During his  incarceration, many more drawings, diary entries
01:06:13
were found outlining his sick fantasies. One  rape, torture and murder journal was so organized
01:06:18
that he even had an index for it. Names weren't  even invented yet for the type of sickness and
01:06:23
depravity that was Derek Percy. He has since been  described as a sadistic pedophile with a morbid
01:06:29
and sexual attraction for fecal matter, with  killing being the ultimate sexual act for him.
01:06:34
Sounds like a good suspect for the Wanda beach  murders, but to sum it up quickly I think it's
01:06:40
likely Derek Percy was responsible for some of  the crimes he's suspected of, but not involved in
01:06:45
others. The main question for today is though, was  Derek Percy involved in the Wanda beach murders?
01:06:51
There's no clear-cut answer, answers maybe.  There's no clear evidence linking him to Wanda,
01:06:57
it's all very much circumstantial, and some of  those circumstances that people rely on are the
01:07:02
fact that the Percy family had a keen interest  in sailing. In actual fact in January 1965,
01:07:08
at the time of Wanda, the National Moth Class  regatta was being held at Botany Bay Yacht Club,
01:07:13
which is not too far away from Wanda at all,  and this is the very class of sailing that
01:07:19
the Percy's were interested in. It's suspected,  but it's never been able to be proven, that the
01:07:24
Percy family were in Sydney for that regatta. Now  Derek would have been 16 at the time and on top
01:07:31
of that if they were in Sydney they likely would  have been staying at Derek's grandmother's place
01:07:35
in Denistone, which is the neighboring suburb  to West Ryde, meaning to get to the beach on
01:07:41
train he would have been travelling the exact  same train line as Marianne and Christine.
01:07:48
Now remember Marianne and Christine were  approached by a teenage male on the train between
01:07:52
Ryde and Redfern and many suspect that that was  Derek, although there's not much to go on, other
01:07:59
than that it was a teenage boy and that he was  probably on the same train line if he was maybe in
01:08:05
Sydney, maybe staying at his grandmother's house.  You see it's, there's nothing concrete. Also Derek
01:08:13
doesn't match the surfy teen description that  Wolfgang provided but some claim that he was
01:08:19
a dead ringer for one of the six sketches that  was released later on by police and turned into
01:08:24
life-sized dummies. It was also revealed that  years later, when several of Derek's journals
01:08:29
were found, he had a newspaper article about the  Wanda Beach murders with obscene comments written
01:08:33
on it. Now that's been taken way out of context.  The article was actually a Playboy article titled
01:08:41
"The Wicked Wanda" and it had nothing to do  with the Wanda beach murders. So there's no
01:08:47
direct evidence linking Percy to the crime,  some believe he's guilty, some believe he isn't
01:08:52
but if he was involved, he took his secret to the  grave. Detectives who visited him on his deathbed
01:08:58
several times, I think, trying to question him  about not only Wanda but the other murders,
01:09:02
but he gave nothing away. Maybe advancements in  DNA technology will be able to prove if Percy is
01:09:09
in fact the Wanda beach killer. In 2012, there was  a major breakthrough in the investigation and that
01:09:17
was due to DNA technology. Police retested the  clothing worn by Christine and Marianne and they
01:09:23
were in luck. They found a small spot of blood  and that blood belongs to a male. Unfortunately,
01:09:30
the profile is too weak that they can't test any  further but it's hoped that with further advances
01:09:36
in technology, that one day, and some say that  could be within five years, that it is hoped a
01:09:42
full DNA profile will be obtained from that blood  spot and the Wanda case will finally be solved.
01:09:49
As for the semen sample they found back at the  time of the murders, the problem was it was 1965
01:09:56
and no one had heard of DNA testing. It wasn't  heard of for many years after. Police wouldn't
01:10:02
have been able to imagine what was possible with  today's technology and unfortunately this may have
01:10:07
led to less than ideal evidence handling, because  at some point over the last 51 years, that semen
01:10:14
sample has been lost. It's unknown what the status  of the broken piece of knife blade was that they
01:10:20
found back at the crime scene. They couldn't test  it any further back then but with advances in DNA
01:10:25
technology, maybe they can today but like the  semen sample, that may have been lost too. So
01:10:34
was Alan Bassett, Chris Wilder or Derek Percy  responsible for the Wanda beach murders or is
01:10:39
someone else responsible? Maybe his name has  already been given to police and it's buried
01:10:43
somewhere amongst those thousands upon thousands  of pages upon pages of, that is the police file.
01:10:49
Maybe a vital piece of evidence or information was  lost in the thousands of phone calls that police
01:10:56
received. Maybe it's someone completely unknown  who's managed to avoid detection all these years,
01:11:03
maybe it was two people. Is there someone still  out there who was up on the beach that day in the
01:11:10
sandhills who saw something, who's too scared  to come forward? Even today police think that
01:11:17
there is. Certainly there's been a number  of people described who were at the beach
01:11:21
that day who were never identified and who never  came forward. It was a different time back then,
01:11:26
homosexuality was still illegal, it was actually  considered to be a psychiatric disorder back then,
01:11:32
so society clearly held a very dim view of it.  Just as a dim view would have been hold of the
01:11:39
nudists and, you know, some of the other  unscrupulous characters that might have
01:11:44
been in the sandhills that day, but times  have changed and we can only hope that if
01:11:48
someone did see or hear something that they are  still alive and they may still yet come forward,
01:11:53
although there's probably a very dim hope at this  point in time. Those people, what they saw heard,
01:12:02
they might even think that it was insignificant  and wouldn't help in the investigation so there's
01:12:06
no use coming forward and risking exposure, but  it could be the vital piece of missing information
01:12:12
that's needed to solve the case and bring closure  to the families of Christine and Marianne. The
01:12:18
case is still as frightening today as it would  have been back then and affected a great deal of
01:12:22
people, obviously the families, that goes without  saying, but even the detectives, the police
01:12:26
that were close to the investigation, it really  affected a lot of them. Now a lot of people close
01:12:32
to the case have passed on and they're no longer  with us but the case still remains unsolved, and
01:12:39
let's just hope that it's solved one day. Whether  it be a DNA breakthrough or some vital piece of
01:12:47
information that comes forward or something. Until  then, may Marianne and Christine rest in peace.

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Episode Highlights

  • The Wanda Beach Murders
    In January 1965, two teenage girls were found murdered on a beach in Australia, sparking a massive manhunt.
    “One mention of the word 'Wanda' is enough to send chills down the spine.”
    @ 00m 24s
    November 19, 2018
  • The Bond of Friendship
    Marianne and Christine were inseparable friends, sharing a close bond after both losing their fathers.
    “They were always in each other's company and neither went out with boys.”
    @ 02m 28s
    November 19, 2018
  • A Gruesome Discovery
    The bodies of Marianne and Christine were discovered buried in the sand, leading to a shocking investigation.
    “It was one of the most horrific crimes, if not the most horrific crime Australia had ever seen.”
    @ 19m 57s
    November 19, 2018
  • Elisabeth Schmidt's Heartfelt Statement
    Elisabeth Schmidt speaks on the loss of her daughter and the need for justice.
    “He would always be hunted and haunted.”
    @ 27m 36s
    November 19, 2018
  • Commissioner Allen's Public Appeal
    Commissioner Allen renews his appeal for the surfy teen to come forward, emphasizing his potential innocence.
    “He could very well clear the air for us in our investigations.”
    @ 27m 58s
    November 19, 2018
  • The £10,000 Reward Announcement
    A reward is announced to encourage witnesses to come forward regarding the murders.
    “It was hoped that it would encourage people who were at the beach that day.”
    @ 39m 26s
    November 19, 2018
  • Brutal Attack on Two Girls
    In April, two 15-year-old girls were attacked near Caringbah train station, heightening community fears.
    “The girls immediately screamed and frightened the attacker off.”
    @ 42m 38s
    November 19, 2018
  • Police Sketches and Suspects
    Police released six sketches of suspects, including a man known as 'the fat man'.
    “He was making inappropriate comments to women.”
    @ 44m 40s
    November 19, 2018
  • Alan Bassett's Conviction
    Alan Bassett was convicted for the murder of Carolyn May Orphin, raising suspicions about his involvement in other cases.
    “He was found guilty of murder.”
    @ 52m 46s
    November 19, 2018
  • Derek Percy: Prime Suspect
    Derek Percy is considered a prime suspect in several unsolved child murders and disappearances.
    “He's also been described as Australia's Hannibal Lecter.”
    @ 01h 01m 09s
    November 19, 2018
  • Derek Percy's Dark Fantasies
    During his incarceration, Percy’s journals revealed disturbing fantasies about kidnapping and murder.
    “He even had an entry detailing his desire to kidnap a young boy and girl.”
    @ 01h 05m 20s
    November 19, 2018
  • Hope for a Breakthrough
    Advancements in DNA technology may one day solve the Wanda Beach case.
    “It's hoped that one day... the case will finally be solved.”
    @ 01h 09m 42s
    November 19, 2018

Episode Quotes

  • They were always in each other's company and neither went out with boys.
    Who killed the teenagers at Wanda Beach?
  • The place that girls were killed was very isolated... You could scream your head off.
    Who killed the teenagers at Wanda Beach?
  • He could very well clear the air for us in our investigations.
    Who killed the teenagers at Wanda Beach?
  • You'd think they would come forward given what happened.
    Who killed the teenagers at Wanda Beach?
  • A vicious, brutal murder.
    Who killed the teenagers at Wanda Beach?
  • He has since been described as a sadistic pedophile.
    Who killed the teenagers at Wanda Beach?

Key Moments

  • Suspect Sketches43:19
  • Brutal Murders47:22
  • Derek Percy Profile1:01:56
  • Derek's Arrest1:04:59
  • Sickening Journal Entries1:05:15
  • Wanda Beach Suspicions1:06:40
  • DNA Breakthrough Hope1:09:42
  • Unsolved Case1:12:39

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