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The mysterious deadly affair of 1960s Australia

April 26, 2025 / 01:35:45

This episode covers the mysterious deaths of Dr. Gilbert Bogle and Margaret Chandler, who were found dead near Sydney's Lane Cove River on January 1, 1963. Key topics include the investigation into their deaths, the circumstances surrounding their discovery, and the various theories regarding the cause of death.

The episode begins with 16-year-old Michael McCormack discovering the bodies while walking along the riverbank. Initial observations by Michael and his friend Dennis lead to the involvement of local authorities, who find the couple in a puzzling state, covered in clothing and showing no obvious signs of violence.

As the investigation unfolds, detectives discover that Gilbert Bogle was a well-respected physicist, and Margaret Chandler was the wife of another CSRO employee. Their last known whereabouts were at a New Year's Eve party hosted by Ken and Ruth Nash, where they left together around 4:00 a.m.

Multiple theories arise, including the possibility of poisoning, a double suicide, or even a murder-suicide. The episode discusses the open marriage of Jeffrey Chandler, Margaret's husband, and the implications of their relationship dynamics.

Despite extensive investigations and a coroner's inquest, the cause of death remains undetermined, leading to public speculation and media frenzy. The episode concludes by highlighting the enduring mystery and the impact on the families involved, particularly focusing on the unresolved nature of the case.

TLDR

The episode investigates the mysterious deaths of Dr. Gilbert Bogle and Margaret Chandler, found dead near Sydney in 1963, with no clear cause established.

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our website. [Music] It was nearing 8:00 a.m. on Tuesday, January 1, 1963, as 16-year-old Michael
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McCormack made his way east along the bushy banks of Sydney's Lane Cove River. Located in the suburb of
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Chhatzwood near a popular picnic area known as Fuller's Bridge, the area was once a thriving spot for swimming,
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fishing, rowing, and flower picking. Over the years, rising pollution levels put an end to many of these recreational
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pursuits with people turned off by the discolored water and its offensive smell. Yet, the surrounding bushland of
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the Lane Cove National Park continued to attract many hikers and day trippers. As Michael walked along the
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lower bush track that ran parallel to the waterway, he noticed a man lying face down in the grass on the riverbank.
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He was neatly dressed in a dark colored suit with his arms slightly out by his side. Michael's first thought was that
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the man must have had too much to drink at a New Year's Eve celebration the previous night and was sleeping it
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off. But as he edged close, Michael realized that the man's face appeared to be turning blue.
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Although it didn't look right to Michael, he told himself the man was probably just a drunk and continued
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on. He had plans to meet his friend Dennis at the nearby Chatzwood Golf Club to look for discarded golf balls and he
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didn't want to keep him waiting. Michael caught up with Dennis near the sixth tea of the golf course
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which backed onto the river and the pair spent about an hour hunting for balls before deciding to call it a day.
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They made their way back along the lower river tract the same way that Michael had come, only to discover that the
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drunk man was still in the exact same position Michael had seen him in an hour earlier. Michael approached the man
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again only to realize that the color of his face had gone a bit darker. He also didn't appear to be
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breathing. Fearing that the man might be dead, Michael told Dennis that they better get
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going. Dennis stopped him, saying, "We had better tell the man over in the shop." The teens walked to the nearby
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Lane Cove kiosk and told the shopkeeper what they'd found. The shopkeeper accompanied them
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back to the scene to see the man for himself. As the trio gathered around him, Michael noticed something. he
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hadn't seen before. A piece of carpet was sticking out from underneath the man's
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jacket. While at first glance the man appeared to be neatly dressed, Michael looked closer and realized this wasn't
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the case at all. The man's jacket had simply been draped over his shoulders and down his
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back to make it look like he was wearing it. It had been placed so perfectly that the
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right sleeve followed the bent angle of his right arm. Likewise, his trousers had been
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neatly laid over both of his bare legs, the seams perfectly placed to make it appear as though he was dressed when he
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was not. The shopkeeper summoned the police, who arrived at the scene at around 10:00
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a.m. The attending sergeant removed the man's jacket and found that underneath he was wearing a white shirt with the
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top buttons undone. A neck tie hung loosely around his neck and a piece of dirty brown
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carpet had been draped over his torso with his jacket then placed meticulously on top.
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He wore shoes and socks, but no underwear, and his trousers had been placed on top of his bare
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legs. The man's body was in a clear state of rigor mortise, indicating that he'd been deceased for some
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time. Yet, despite a trickle of blood that was seeping from his right nostril, there were no obvious signs of violence
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anywhere on his body. The only thing out of the ordinary was a puddle of vomit that lay nearby.
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Mystified by the scene, the police began a thorough search of the area to try and
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determine what had unfolded, an officer made his way down the riverbank towards the mud flats
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about 15 m south from where the man's body lay. Parallel to the riverbed, he came
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across an indentation in the mud that was about 5 ft long and 2 ft wide. It had been covered up by several
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flattened down beer cartons that had obviously been in the area for some time. The officer picked one of the
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pieces of cardboard up. "Sergeant," he called out to his superior. I can see part of a woman's
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[Music] head. The sergeant joined the officer on the riverbed. From underneath the beer cartons, the
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head and shoulders of a young dark-haired woman lay on display. She was on her back as though asleep, her
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head turned slightly to the left with her right arm resting on her stomach and her left arm by her
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thigh. There was a small abrasion on her nose, which had been lightly bleeding. The woman was wearing an
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imitation pearl necklace, but her shoulders were otherwise bare. the straps of her dress having been pulled
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down to expose her breasts. The sergeant lifted the woman's arm, noticing that she was wearing a
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wedding ring. He felt for a pulse, but there was none, and she wasn't breathing. Although she was clearly
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deceased, her body was still slightly warm to the touch, and rigger mortise hadn't yet set in.
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The sergeant pulled the rest of the beer cartons aside, revealing that the woman's bra had been rolled down across
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her stomach. She was wearing a white dress with a red rose pattern on it, which had been rolled up around her
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waist. Underneath the dress, she wore a white half slip that was torn and muddy.
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She had no underwear or shoes on, and her feet and knees were smeared with mud. A pair of men's underwear layered her
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feet stained with feces. Vomit and excrement dotted the surrounding area, adding to the already
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foul odor of the thick black mud and surrounding mangroves. Other than some small
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scratches on one of the woman's shoulders, there were no defensive marks or signs of violence anywhere on her
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body, and it didn't look like her clothing had been forcefully removed. Her shoes and underwear were found on
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the exposed riverbed directly below where the man's body was found, placed in a neat line along with the man's
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belt. Detectives soon arrived at the scene and were baffled by what lay before them. Here they had two semi-
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naked bodies just 15 m apart, both oddly covered up, but with no overt signs of violence on either of them.
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Both of the deceased appeared to have been healthy young individuals. An unexpected medical
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event, such as a heart attack or brain aneurysm, could kill one person, but the chances of it happening to two was next
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to impossible. The vomit and feces at the scene suggested a more obvious cause of
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death. The pair had been poisoned. A cursory search of the area didn't reveal any pills, powders, hypodermic
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needles, or anything else to suggest what had made the couple so sick. Police divers took to the water to search for
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any discarded evidence, but the water was too muddy and polluted, and the search had to be called
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off. The only prince in the mud belonged to the woman and were consistent with her having walked to the riverbed before
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collapsing onto all fours. The surrounding area didn't show any obvious signs of disturbance, such as
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flattened grass or drag marks, to suggest that anyone else was involved. Detectives wondered if they
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could be dealing with a double suicide or a murder suicide. But this didn't explain the
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precise way in which the bodies had been covered up. They considered a third, more
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plausible theory. What they were dealing with was a double homicide. Police searched the area for
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the woman's handbag or purse, but couldn't find one. A search of the dead man's pockets didn't turn up any drugs
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or poisons, but it did reveal his wallet. Inside were several£5 notes, a driver's license, and personal papers,
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all in the same name. Dr. Gilbert Bogle. The 39year-old lived in Tara, a suburb in Sydney's Upper Northshore,
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approximately 10 km north of the crime scene. Detectives were sent to Gilbert's address, where they knocked at the door
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of the attractive brick home. A woman holding a baby in her arms answered and introduced herself as
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Vivian Bogle. She was soon joined by three more young children, the eldest of whom was just
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11. The detectives handed Vivian Gilbert's wallet and explained where they had found it. Viven's eyes
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immediately filled with tears. She'd been worried sick about her husband ever since he'd failed to return
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home from a New Year's Eve party the previous evening. Viven told the detectives that Gilbert
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worked as a physicist for the government-run Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization
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known as the CSRO, where he'd been a muchloved member of the faculty for the past 7
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years. A gifted physicist originally from New Zealand, Gilbert had completed a doctorate in philosophy at England's
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Oxford University after being awarded with a highly coveted road scholarship. It was there that he met and married
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Vivien before accepting the position of senior research officer in the CSRO's division of physics at the National
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Standards Laboratory in Sydney. During Gilbert's time with the CSRO, his superiors were so impressed
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with him that he was given an indefinite appointment with the organization, with
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his chief deeming him to be the most brilliant member on staff. Gilbert was equally admired outside of
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the workplace. Not only did he speak several languages, play the clarinet, and have
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four great children, he was an extroverted character and a conversationalist who got along well
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with everyone he met. Vivian Bogle told the detectives that at around 9:00 the night before, Gilbert
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had left home to attend a party thrown by one of his colleagues, Ken Nash, and his wife,
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Ruth. Vivien couldn't go to the party because their baby was sick, and she had to stay home and tend to the
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children. She woke up at around 5:00 a.m. only to find that Gilbert still wasn't home.
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When he still hadn't surfaced by 6:45, her worry grew. Viven called the Nash residents to
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see if they could shed any light on her husband's whereabouts. Ruth Nash told Vivien not
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to stress. She said the party had run into the early hours of the morning and Gilbert had only left a short while
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earlier. With Vivien receiving the news that her husband had been found dead next to the
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Lanc Cove River, her worst fears had come true. As she tried to get her head around the reality of it, the detectives
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delivered the second blow, explaining that a deceased woman had also been found just a few meters from Gilbert's
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body. Viven was stunned. She had no idea who the woman could be. Back at Lane Cove, detectives checked
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the parking area near Fuller's Bridge, which was about 70 m from where the bodies were
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found. There, they found an old Ford Prefect with its doors unlocked and its keys tucked into the driver side sun
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visor. A check of the Ford's registration confirmed that the car belonged to Gilbert Bogle.
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On the back seat was a leather case with a clarinet inside and strangely an abstract painting depicting what
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appeared to be a two-headed woman surrounded by a severed foot and hand. The car didn't smell of gas or any
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other unusual odor. There was nothing inside the car that could explain how the pair had
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died, nor was there anything that could help identify the mystery woman. Detectives visited the home of the party
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hosts Ken and Ruth Nash. The Nashes lived on Warar Street in Chhatzwood, which was about 5 km east
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of Fuller's Bridge. They were stunned to hear that Gilbert Bogle had been found dead. Gilbert had been one of 22 guests
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who had attended their annual New Year's Eve celebration the previous night, and
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when they'd last seen him, he'd been in perfect health. The Nashes recalled that Gilbert had
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arrived at around 9:30 p.m. with his clarinet in hand. He also brought with him a Picasso inspired drawing of an
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abstract figure, the one that had been found in the back of his car. He had drawn this at Ken and Ruth's
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request. To keep things interesting, they had asked their guests to bring some kind of abstract art project they
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could display for the evening. Most guests let the Nashes keep their projects at the end of the night, but
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Gilbert wanted to take his home. The detectives asked Ken and Ruth if there happened to be a dark-haired
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woman at their party who wore a white rose patterned dress. The husband and wife exchanged a
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look. Yes, they said there was a guest who fit that description. Her name was Margaret Chandler, but they
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didn't know her very well. She was the 29-year-old wife of another CSRO employee, 32-year-old Jeffrey
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Chandler. The Chandlers had been a late addition to the Nash's guest list, having been invited to the party just a
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week before at Gilbert Bogle's request. They'd arrived at around 10:30 p.m. dressed in more casual attire than the
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Nashes had requested on their invite and without any artwork to contribute. Ken and Ruth told the
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detectives that Margaret Chandler had been reserved at the party, perhaps even a bit
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shy. She mostly sat on the lounge sipping a drink. In contrast, Gilbert Bogle was
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the life of the party as per usual. He mingled freely, dancing and sometimes speaking to other guests in Spanish and
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Italian. The Nashes didn't particularly notice Gilbert paying Margaret any more attention than he did the other guests.
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However, they did notice that the two left the party at around the same time, shortly after 4:00 a.m., and Margaret's
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husband wasn't with them. With this revelation, the detectives started putting the pieces
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together. They were familiar with the area of Lane Cove where the two bodies were found, as the parking lot near
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Fuller's Bridge was a well-known lover's lane. Officers were routinely dispatched there
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to keep an eye out for any peeping toms or anyone who might be illegally dumping
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rubbish in the surrounding bushland. It stood to reason that Gilbert Bogle and Margaret Chandler
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could have left the party together and stopped at Lane Cove to have some time alone. Given that they were both in a
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state of undress, detectives considered whether they had willingly taken their clothes off to engage in consensual sex
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when they both became gravely ill. The problem with this theory was that the area they were found in wasn't
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exactly a picturesque or romantic spot. The polluted river gave off an unpleasant smell while rubbish was
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strewn throughout the bush track and riverbed. If the pair had wanted some privacy, it seemed odd that they'd
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walked 70 m from the parking lot to this undesirable location when they could have just stayed in the comfort of
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Gilbert's car. It also didn't explain what had happened to them once they reached the
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bush track. The Nashes said that neither Gilbert or Margaret had drunk much throughout the evening, and neither
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seemed intoxicated or sick when they left the party. This meant that something had occurred
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in the period of time when they left the party at around 4:00 a.m. and when Michael McCormack first walked past
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Gilbert's body at 8:00 a.m. Forensic examiners estimated that Gilbert had died shortly after leaving
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the party at around 5:00 a.m. with Margaret dying an hour or two later. Although it was also possible that she'd
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died around the same time, but her body had been better preserved due to the way
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it was covered up. A medical officer at the scene examined their bodies for stab marks,
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bullet holes, strangulation, or any other signs of assault. He found nothing, further solidifying the theory
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that the pair had been poisoned. And detectives suspected they knew who was responsible.
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It was nearing 100 p.m. on New Year's Day when detectives arrived at a modest weatherboard home in the Sydney suburb
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of Cuddon, located roughly 18 km south of Fuller's Bridge. A sign in the front yard read,
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"Daxand Pups for sale." It was the home of Margaret and Jeffrey Chandler. The couple had bought the house several
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years prior and were renovating it slowly while raising their 9-month-old and 2-year-old
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sons. Margaret was a former nurse turned stay-at-home mom, while Jeffrey worked as an engineer at the
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CSRO. He'd started with the company as a technical assistant, but had slowly risen the ranks while studying
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diligently for his master's degree in engineering. His hard work paid off, and coupled with Margaret's smart budgeting,
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they'd managed to pay off their mortgage in just 2 years. They lived simply, their only
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indulgence being their shared love for vintage cars. The detectives knocked on the
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door, and a slightly disheveled Jeffrey Chandler answered, having obviously just
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woken up. In his arms was his grizzling baby son while his older son stood by his
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side. The detectives asked to Jeffree if his wife was at home. He said she was not. They asked if he knew where she
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was. Jeffrey responded no. He said the last time he'd seen Margaret was at around 4:00 that morning
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when he'd left the Nash's New Year's Eve party. Jeffrey asked if there had been an
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accident. The detectives told him no and asked if he would accompany them to the
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police station. Jeffrey agreed, but didn't ask why, nor did the detectives offer him
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any explanation. At the station, a detective presented Jeffrey with the afternoon
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edition of the Daily Mirror newspaper. The front page headline read, "Scientist, woman in death
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mystery." The article went on to explain that Gilbert Bogle and Margaret Chandler
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had been found dead on the banks of Lanc River, the cause of their death unknown. Jeffrey Chandler showed no
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reaction as he read the story. He took a cigarette from his shirt pocket and lit
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it up in a stony silence. The detective asked to Jeffrey how he knew Gilbert Bogle. Jeffrey explained that they had
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worked together at the CSRO for several years, but in different departments. He said they didn't know
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each other well, but would say hello in passing. Jeffrey explained that Margaret had only
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met Gilbert, or Gibb as he was known, 10 days earlier at a CSRO Christmas barbecue. Margaret had been looking
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forward to the event. Having given birth only months earlier, she hadn't been out
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much and was looking forward to some adult interaction. Gilbert Bogle attended the
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barbecue alone as his wife was at home nursing their sick baby. He soon started chatting with Margaret
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and the two immediately hit it off. After the barbecue, Ken and Ruth Nash invited some of the guests back to
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their place for drinks. There, Gilbert suggested that the Nashes invite the Chandlers to their
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upcoming New Year's Eve party, and they obliged. Jeffrey wasn't particularly excited about the invite, but he could
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tell that Margaret was. In the days following the barbecue, she seemed to have a renewed
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spark. Margaret told Jeffrey that Gilbert Bogle had been the most interesting person there. She admitted
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she felt quite attracted to him and that she found the prospect of sleeping with
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him alluring. Jeffrey told her, "If you want to take a Gibb as a lover, if it would make you happy, you
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do it. [Music] Jeffrey explained to the incredulous detectives that while he and Margaret
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had a happy marriage, they had an arrangement in which they were both free to pursue intimate relations with other
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people. He said they had attended the Nash's New Year's party with the understanding that Margaret was free to
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take a Gilbert Bogle home at the end of the night if she so desired. Jeffrey had even agreed to stay
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elsewhere and take care of the children so that the two could have some privacy. Jeffrey told the detectives
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that on New Year's Eve, he and Margaret had dropped their two sons at Margaret's
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parents house before arriving at the Nash's party at around 1000 p.m. Jeffrey could tell straight away
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that the party was not his scene. He felt inadequately dressed in his shirt, sleeves, and sandals while all the other
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men were in suits. He was also the only one there with a beard. Overall, the party was quieter
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and more formal than what Jeffree was used to, and although it was pleasant enough, he found it quite pretentious
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and wasn't eager to stick around. However, he'd made a promise to Margaret, and he intended to keep it.
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Jeffrey told the detectives that at around 11:30 p.m. he slipped out of the party to go and buy cigarettes without
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telling Margaret or anyone else that he was leaving. As he drove along looking for a
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shop that was still open, he got further and further away from the Nash's house until he decided he might as well stop
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in at another party he'd been invited to. This one was at the Balain home of Ken Buckley. a friend who worked as an
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economic history lecturer at the University of Sydney. Ken Buckley's party was much
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more to Jeffrey's tastes. There were about 100 guests and it was a more laidback and casual
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affair. He also had an extra incentive to pop by. His girlfriend was going to be there.
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Jeffrey Chandler told the detectives that he'd been romantically involved with a 21-year-old woman named Pamela
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Logan for about five or 6 months. Pamela worked as a secretary at the University of Sydney, where the CSRO
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building was located, and the two had met through mutual acquaintances. Jeffrey told the detectives that he'd
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been at the Balain party for about an hour when they decided to go back to Pamela's place, which was about 6 km
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away in the suburb of Darlington. Jeffree agreed to drive his car with Pamela following behind in her
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own. She'd only recently gotten her driver's license and still had trouble navigating the streets on her
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own. By the time they got to Pamela's house, she wasn't feeling very well, so Jeffree made her a cup of coffee and
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left at around 2:00 a.m. He drove back to Chatzwood and slipped back into the Nash's party, where nobody seemed to
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have taken much notice of his absence. Jeffree said he apologized to Margaret for being gone for so long, but
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she didn't appear to be phased at all. A supper of chicken, ham, sausage, cheese, and vegetables was then
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served. Afterwards, Jeffrey asked Margaret if she still had the same opinion of Gilbert Bogle as she did
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before. She said that she did, and that Gilbert had offered to drive her home if
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Jeffrey hadn't returned. A little while later, shortly before 4:00 a.m., Jeffree saw Margaret
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and Gilbert chatting together on the couch. He went over and told them he was ready to leave. When Margaret made no
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move to join him, Jeffrey asked Gilbert if he could take her home. Gilbert looked at him quizzingly
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as though he was trying to make sure he interpreted the question correctly. After a pause, he
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responded, "All right." Jeffrey told the detectives he then left without saying goodbye to
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anyone else. He felt a bit embarrassed to be leaving by himself and didn't want to draw any attention to this
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fact. Jeffree sat in his car and lit a cigarette, waiting a few minutes just in case Margaret changed her
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mind. When she didn't come out, he drove off. Jeffrey claimed that he drove straight
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back to Pamela Logan's house via the Sydney Harbor Bridge. He got to Pamela's house at around 4:30 a.m., woke her up,
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and asked if she'd go with him to pick up his children. Pamela seemed slightly annoyed
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by this request, but she agreed. The two then drove to Margaret's parents house, where Jeffree dropped
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Pamela to wait around the corner. Jeffrey retrieved his kids, picked Pamela up, and took them all back to
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Pamela's house in Darlington. They stayed there for a couple of hours before returning to the
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Chandela's home in Cuddon. Jeffree said he was surprised to find that Margaret wasn't home, but he
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assumed she must have gone out for a drive with Gilbert Bogle and would be back soon.
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He went to sleep with the boys and the next thing he knew, the detectives were knocking at his
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door. The detectives weren't buying Jeffrey's story at all. They found it difficult to believe that a happily
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married couple could have such an arrangement. It seemed much more believable that Jeffree could have
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sensed a mutual attraction between Margaret and Gilbert and killed them in a jealous rage.
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Either that or he wanted Margaret out of the picture so he could freely pursue the relationship with his younger
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girlfriend and Gilbert Bogle was just collateral damage. Perhaps Jeffrey had discreetly slipped
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something into the pair's food or drink before they left the party together, and
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the effects had only taken their toll once the two were canoodling by the riverside. Just before 4:30 p.m. on New
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Year's Day, detectives visited Pamela Logan's house in Darlington. They asked her if she had
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spent time with the Jeffrey Chandler the previous evening. "Yes," Pamela replied.
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Why do you want to know? Pamela told the detectives the exact same story as Jeffrey. She also said that when he'd
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returned to her house at around 4:30 a.m., he mentioned that he'd arranged for another man to take his wife
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home. Pamela lived in a share house and one of her housemates had also been at the Bowain party the night before.
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This housemate confirmed that Jeffrey Chandler had been at the party and brought the children over in the
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morning. They'd all eaten breakfast together before the Chandelers had left at around 10:00
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a.m. With Pamela backing Jeffrey's alibi to the tea, the detectives were left scratching their heads.
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They visited Margaret's parents, who confirmed that Jeffree had arrived at their house at around 5:00 a.m. to pick
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up their children. This was the same time that Gilbert Bogle was thought to have
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died. Although this meant Jeffrey couldn't have been present when Gilbert and Margaret became fatally ill, it
00:32:25
didn't rule out the possibility that he'd managed to poison them before they left the Nash's party.
00:32:32
[Music] Given that the Chandelus house had been empty at the time, it made detectives
00:32:38
even more curious about why Margaret and Gilbert had ended up in the spot that they
00:32:43
had. Perhaps they were driving back to the Chandler's home when they were overcome with
00:32:49
illness. Gilbert might have urgently parked his car and the two had run into the bush to be sick in private.
00:32:57
Then again, if they were so violently ill, why go 70 m into the bush when there were plenty of other spots closer
00:33:09
by? The news that Margaret had been found to dead left her parents utterly devastated. Margaret was one of four
00:33:17
children in their close-knit family, and as the only girl, she was particularly beloved.
00:33:25
But equally crushing to them was Jeffrey's claim that he and Margaret had an open
00:33:31
marriage. While they'd always had a good relationship with Jeffrey, the thought that he had been liazing with other
00:33:37
women while encouraging Margaret to pursue relations with other men left them flabbergasted. They couldn't imagine
00:33:46
Margaret would ever agree to such an arrangement. Back at the police station, Jeffrey
00:33:53
Chandler explained to the detectives that he and Margaret had made the mutual decision not to regulate their marriage
00:34:00
according to the rules of suburbia. He said that neither of them were jealous, possessive, or demanding
00:34:08
in nature, and they recognized each other's rights as individuals. According to Jeffrey, the
00:34:15
fact that they were married and intended to stay married did not eliminate their
00:34:20
interest in other people. While he didn't think Margaret knew about his relationship with Pamela
00:34:27
Logan specifically, she knew he was involved with other women. He also made it clear that he
00:34:34
never intended to pursue a future with Pamela and she expected nothing of him. But the detectives were skeptical of
00:34:44
Jeffrey's claims, believing there was every chance he was using this as an excuse for his own bad
00:34:51
behavior. If the police didn't believe him, Jeffrey said they could ask his friend, Bill Bry, as he'd had a brief
00:34:59
affair with Margaret in the past. Bill backed up Jeffrey's claims completely. He said he'd slept with Margaret a few
00:35:08
times about 4 years prior, and that Jeffrey had been fully aware, even making jokes about
00:35:16
it. Bill claimed that Jeffrey Chantler was an easygoing and placid fellow, and definitely not the jealous
00:35:24
type. The affair only came to an end when Bill started dating his future wife. The police interrogated Jeffrey Chandler
00:35:35
for close to 13 hours, but he never veered from his original story and there was no evidence to tie him to the scene
00:35:42
at Lane Cove. Eventually, he was free to go. But the next morning, he was summoned to the
00:35:50
city morg to identify Margaret's body. Police hoped that this might prompt a reaction or perhaps even elicit
00:35:59
a confession. Several detectives gathered around the room, their eyes on Jeffrey as the
00:36:05
coroner lifted back the sheet to reveal Margaret's body. "She's a bit disheveled, isn't
00:36:12
she?" Jeffrey remarked. "He made no other show of emotion." Meanwhile, forensic investigators
00:36:25
searched the home of Ken and Ruth Nash for any evidence that Margaret Chandler and Gilbert Bogle could have been
00:36:32
poisoned before they left the party. If Jeffrey Chandler wasn't responsible, maybe one of the other partygoers was,
00:36:41
or maybe their deaths hadn't been intentional at all, but the result of contaminated food or drink, or a
00:36:48
practical joke gone horribly wrong. Officers confiscated all of the leftover food scraps and drinks that had been
00:36:57
served and were surprised to discover that very little alcohol had been consumed. Between the 24 people present,
00:37:06
only four bottles of spirits and 16 bottles of beer had been drunk throughout the entire evening.
00:37:13
Testing revealed no traces of poison or food born bacteria in any of the consumables served at the
00:37:21
party. Officers also seized a collection of medicines and household chemicals taken during a search of Jeffrey
00:37:28
Chandler's home as well as the home of Pamela Logan. They also confiscated the clothes
00:37:34
that Jeffree had worn to the party and swabbed the insides of his pockets for any poison
00:37:42
residue. Without knowing exactly what had killed Margaret Chandler and Gilbert Bogle, police weren't sure what to do
00:37:50
next. Because their bodies were discovered on a public holiday, detectives had to wait 36 hours for
00:37:56
their autopsies to be conducted. The carpet square that had been draped over Gilbert's body was
00:38:03
determined to have come from the boot of his car, indicating he'd taken it with him so they'd have a comfortable place
00:38:10
to lay down. Microscopic examination revealed that the pair hadn't had full sexual
00:38:17
intercourse, but fresh semen was detected on Gilbert's jacket and genitals, confirming that some form of
00:38:24
sexual activity had taken place. This meant that whatever had happened, the pair had been healthy and
00:38:31
well when they arrived at the riverbed, seeking privacy. The fact that they'd been unable to put
00:38:38
their clothes back on indicated that something had struck them down rapidly and without
00:38:45
warning. Initial toxicology testing showed no alcohol in either of their systems.
00:38:52
Tissue samples were taken from various organs and then tested against numerous readily available poisons including
00:38:59
stricknine, cyanide, arsenic, and other household chemicals, agricultural products, and prescription medications
00:39:07
such as barbiterates and sleeping pills. But to the great shock of everyone involved, none of the tissue
00:39:15
samples showed any traces of poison. While this didn't rule out the possibility that Margaret and Gilbert
00:39:26
had been poisoned, it just meant the toxicologists had to dig deeper. Whatever had killed the pair, it
00:39:34
wasn't an ordinary run-of-the-mill drug or toxin. Investigators considered whether
00:39:40
it was something that only a highly educated professional in the medical or scientific field would have knowledge of
00:39:46
or access to. someone such as a CSRO employee. Police searched the Chandler's home again and found a receipt in one of
00:39:58
Margaret's handbags for H Highrex. It had been issued by Windswept Kennels on Saturday, December 29,
00:40:07
1962, just 3 days before she died. Detectives visited the business owner, a well-known Daxund breeder named Sheridan
00:40:18
Py. Sheridan confirmed that she'd had multiple dealings with the Chandlers in the past, as Margaret was a dog lover
00:40:26
who had dottingly raised several Daxons. She viewed the Chandlers as a normal family and described Jeffrey as a
00:40:34
gentle man. The Chantler's dog had recently had puppies, and Sheridan confirmed that
00:40:41
Margaret had brought the litter over for her to have a look at. She remembered the visit well
00:40:47
because Margaret hadn't quite been her usual self. While she usually took pride in
00:40:53
her appearance, on this visit, she seemed a little unckempt. It also seemed like something
00:41:00
was worrying her. The two women started chatting and Margaret mentioned that she'd had an
00:41:07
argument with her husband, but Sheridan made a joke which had lightened the mood. Sheridan confirmed that she'd
00:41:15
given Margaret some Hyerex pills which were used to treat tapeworm in dogs. They were brand new to the market
00:41:24
and Sheridan had warned Margaret to keep them away from her children as they were
00:41:28
not safe for human consumption. However, Sheridan said she only gave Margaret four of the pills and this
00:41:36
wouldn't have been enough to kill a person. Regardless, as far as the detectives were concerned, this was
00:41:44
their first solid lead. They considered whether Jeffrey Chandler could have used the Herex to
00:41:51
spike Margaret and Gilbert's drinks to prevent them from being physical with one another.
00:41:57
Maybe he'd given them too much without realizing their potency, and this plan had fatally
00:42:05
backfired. Police returned to the Chandler's house to search for the Hydrax pills, but couldn't find them
00:42:11
anywhere, and Jeffrey claimed he knew nothing about them. Investigators remained convinced
00:42:21
that Margaret and Gilbert had both been poisoned by the same thing. They just had to figure out
00:42:28
what. They interviewed the other guests who had attended the New Year's Eve party at the Nash
00:42:34
residence. None of them had fallen even remotely ill, even though one guest had eaten food directly off of Gilbert's
00:42:43
plate. No one recalled anything unusual about Gilbert or Margaret's behavior towards the end of the night, either.
00:42:52
One guest had given Gilbert a handshake goodbye and noted that he'd been in good
00:42:56
spirits and appeared perfectly sober and healthy. However, the detectives were slightly dubious about one
00:43:06
guest. 39year-old Joan Gordon, not her real name, worked as a research scientist at the CSRO.
00:43:14
She had left the party at the same time as Gilbert, making her one of the last people to have seen him
00:43:21
alive. Joan described Gilbert as a kind man. She said the two occasionally ran into each other at work or at the tennis
00:43:30
club, and he always made a point of being nice to her and giving her compliments. He'd even kissed her at the
00:43:37
Nash's party when the clock struck midnight. The significance for police was that
00:43:44
Joan Gordon was the only single woman who attended the New Year's Eve party. She also suffered from a chronic skin
00:43:52
condition which resulted in an apparent lack of self-esteem. Police theorized that Joan
00:43:59
could have been infatuated with Gilbert Bogle and was overcome with the jealousy
00:44:03
when she saw him leave the party with another woman. As a scientist, she certainly knew a
00:44:10
thing or two about poisons and she could have followed Gilbert and Margaret to Lane Cove and killed them
00:44:17
both. Joan told detectives that she drove straight home after the party, but given that she lived alone, there was no
00:44:25
one to verify her alibi. Police remained suspicious of Joan, but it didn't seem likely that she would
00:44:33
have been driving around in possession of some kind of undetectable poison. Secondly, even if she did have
00:44:40
the poison and had followed Gilbert and Margaret down to the river, how would she have managed to administer
00:44:47
it? While everyone detectives spoke to painted Gilbert Bogle as a loyal family man, several women came forward to
00:44:55
report otherwise. At least two married women reported that Gilbert had asked them out or made moves
00:45:03
on them in the past, while another claimed she'd been having an affair with Gilbert for the past 3
00:45:10
years. Margaret Fowler was a married librarian who worked at the CSRO's scientific library.
00:45:18
She claimed that she'd begun a physical relationship with Gilbert in 1959, and the two would occasionally have sex at
00:45:26
work or at a private location in a public park. During these encounters, he'd always keep his shirt, shoes, and socks
00:45:34
on and remove only his pants, and underwear, just like he'd done at Lane Cove on New Year's Day.
00:45:43
Margaret Fowler quickly found herself falling in love with Gilbert, even though he treated her poorly and made it
00:45:50
clear the relationship was purely sexual. She once threatened to take her own life after he rejected her.
00:45:58
Eventually, Margaret's husband, Robert Fowler, who was a colleague of Gilbert, agreed that his wife was free to have
00:46:06
sex outside of their marriage as long as it didn't happen under their roof. She went against her husband's wishes
00:46:14
and one night, Robert came home to find Gilbert jumping over the balcony with his shoes in
00:46:22
hand. From the stories Margaret Fowler told, it was clear to the detectives that she was infatuated with Gilbert
00:46:29
Bogle, possibly to the point of delusion. But it also proved that Gilbert was no stranger to taking women
00:46:37
to public parks for sexual encounters. Bizarrely enough, it also turned out that Margaret Fowler had shared the
00:46:46
occasional kiss with the Jeffrey Chandler. Jeffrey told detectives that at the CSRO Christmas barbecue where his
00:46:55
wife had met Gilbert for the first time, Margaret Fowler had been in an emotional
00:47:01
state. She told him that she'd been having an affair with Gilbert and he'd recently called it off.
00:47:10
Detectives wondered whether Margaret Fowler could have been motivated to murder Gilbert and his new romantic
00:47:16
interest under the mindset that if she couldn't have him, then no one could. Alternatively, maybe her jealous
00:47:24
husband Robert wanted Gilbert out of the picture for good. The couple's whereabouts on New
00:47:31
Year's Eve were looked into. It turned out they'd attended a party in Tara Mara, 12 km north of the Nash's
00:47:39
party in Chhatzwood, where they'd stayed until 4:00 a.m. before walking the short
00:47:45
distance home. There was no way either of them could have ran into Gilbert Bogle and
00:47:51
Margaret Chandler in those early morning hours. The case immediately became a media
00:48:01
sensation with the local tabloids publishing story after story to keep feeding the intense public
00:48:08
interest. Sydney siders were left scandalized by the lura details about open marriages, late night affairs, and
00:48:16
suspected murder plots. Even more so when it was revealed that Jeffrey Chandler was a member of a libertarian
00:48:23
subculture known as the Sydney Push. Unofficially formed in the 1940s, the Push was the name given to an
00:48:32
amorphous group who had a shared interest in the anti- athoritarian movement and left-wing politics.
00:48:40
Members of the push consisted of university students, academics, musicians, artists, journalists, and
00:48:47
public servants. While there was no formal shape or goal for the push, members would typically attend meetings before
00:48:55
frequenting one of several pubs around Sydney, with many of those pub visits eventually turning into late night
00:49:02
parties. Although members of the push were mostly well educated and had good jobs, many
00:49:09
outsiders viewed them as beatnicks who lived outside the rules of conventional society. They had a reputation for
00:49:18
believing in free love and being heavy drinkers. And Jeffrey Chandler's association with the group made the
00:49:25
story of his wife's death all the more titillating for conservative members of the public.
00:49:32
It didn't help that publicly, Jeffrey appeared to show little emotion or respect for his dead
00:49:39
wife. Margaret's brother told the police that just 2 days after Margaret died, Jeffrey had introduced him to Pamela
00:49:46
Logan and described her as his girlfriend. In addition to the rampant speculation
00:49:54
that the pair had been murdered by a jealous lover or spouse, wild theories also started surfacing about Gilbert
00:50:02
Bogle's possible involvement in top secret information. A man of great intelligence, he'd recently been offered
00:50:09
a fellowship position working at the Bell Telephone Company in the United States. And before he died, his family
00:50:17
had intended to move there in just a few weeks time. The possibility was raised that Gilbert
00:50:24
could have been working as a spy or had been the target of espionage related nerve gas or even a death
00:50:32
ray. It was the height of the Cold War and public concern about nuclear bombs was at its
00:50:39
peak. Investigators considered these theories but found nothing to support any of them.
00:50:46
They even looked into the possibility that Jeffrey Chandler could have been involved in military research and had
00:50:52
been given access to a laboratory in which chemical and biological warfare was being looked
00:50:59
into. At the time, Sydney's two major afternoon tabloids, The Sun and The Daily Mirror, were in the midst of a
00:51:07
vicious war to take out the number one spot. Reporters from both publications pulled
00:51:13
out all the stops to be the first to break any developments in what was coming to be known as the Bogle Chandler
00:51:21
case. Reporters lurked around the Chandler's home as well as the CSRO building, desperate for any new detail
00:51:29
they could turn into a story. The public interest in Jeffrey Chandler was so intense that he began
00:51:36
moving between the homes of friends and acquaintances to avoid the media onslaught.
00:51:42
Gilbert Bogle's wife, Vivien, promptly packed up her four children and returned to her homeland of New Zealand, refusing
00:51:49
to believe that her husband was anything but the faithful family man she knew him
00:51:54
to be. The advantage of the public interest was that people were eager to come forward with any information that could
00:52:03
help with the case. Various witnesses made statements confirming they had seen Jeffrey
00:52:09
Chandler's distinctive 1924 model vintage Vauhall driving west from the suburb of Burwood sometime between 4:45
00:52:18
a.m. and 5:00 a.m. roughly 20 km from Lane Cove. These statements further supported
00:52:26
Jeffrey's version of events, proving he was nowhere near Fuller's Bridge at the time that Margaret and Gilbert died.
00:52:35
But for investigators, this just left the question. If Jeffrey didn't kill them, then who
00:52:49
did? When the tabloids started reporting on the H Higherex tablets that Margaret
00:52:54
Chandler had purchased in the days before her death, members of the public began speculating that she could have
00:53:00
brought them with her to the party where she and Gilbert Bogle took them together
00:53:05
in some kind of suicide pact. Maybe the reason her handbag hadn't been found at the scene was
00:53:12
because she ditched it to get rid of the evidence. But testing of Margaret and Gilbert's
00:53:18
tissue samples came back negative for any sign of the drug in either of their systems. Jeffrey Chandler clarified that
00:53:27
the reason police couldn't find Margaret's handbag was because she hadn't been carrying one at all on the
00:53:32
night that she died. She'd left it at her parents' house at the last minute after deciding
00:53:38
that it clashed with her outfit. Whatever poison had killed the pair, it hadn't been in Margaret's
00:53:48
possession. Loved ones of the deceased insisted there was no way either of them would have taken their own
00:53:54
lives. Gilbert was a happy, popular, and welladjusted man who had great career satisfaction and loved his wife and
00:54:02
children. Not only was he looking forward to his upcoming move to America to work with
00:54:08
the Bell Telephone Company, but before offering Gilbert the position, Belle had conducted a thorough background check
00:54:15
into his personal life. They found nothing to suggest he was in any way suicidal, depressed, or
00:54:23
mentally [Music] ill. Similarly, Margaret's medical history revealed no such concerns.
00:54:32
Although some of Margaret's loved ones had noticed a change in her personality and appearance since giving birth to her
00:54:39
second child, they were adamant she would never voluntarily leave her two sons without a mother.
00:54:47
Jeffrey admitted he'd been neglecting Margaret's needs and that their otherwise happy marriage had been at a
00:54:53
lull, but he said her encounter and potential leazison with Gilbert Bogle had seemingly reinvigorated
00:55:01
her. On Friday, January 11, 10 days after Gilbert and Margaret's bodies were found, a team of police divers returned
00:55:10
to Lane Cove for a second attempt at searching the river for clues. Dawning special equipment, they launched
00:55:17
themselves into the murky water, but it was still too dark to see anything. They used their hands to crawl
00:55:25
along the muddy river floor, feeling for a syringe, bottle, anything that could account for the two mysterious
00:55:33
deaths. Nothing was found. [Music] While police weren't prepared to rule any theory out, the fact that Gilbert
00:55:45
and Margaret barely knew each other made the idea of a suicide pact highly unlikely. Given that neither showed any
00:55:54
signs of wanting to end their own lives and had zero history of violence, it seemed equally improbable that one would
00:56:01
have killed the other before killing themselves. Yet, the fact that both of their bodies
00:56:08
had been so carefully covered up sparked debate about who could have done such a
00:56:14
thing. Some investigators thought that if the pair was murdered, a killer would have dragged their bodies a few meters
00:56:21
off the track instead of leaving them out in the open. The precise way in which Gilbert's
00:56:27
clothes were placed over his body ruled out the possibility that he'd covered himself up.
00:56:34
However, Margaret was a trained nurse, and some wondered whether she could have covered Gilbert's body to keep him warm
00:56:41
before stumbling to the riverbed where she pulled the broken beer cartons over herself. Others thought this made no
00:56:49
sense. If Margaret wanted to cover herself, wouldn't she have pulled her rumpled dress back on instead of using
00:56:56
dirty, weathered pieces of cardboard? After considering all possible scenarios, investigators
00:57:05
unequivocally agreed that a third person had been involved. Not necessarily as a
00:57:12
perpetrator, but at the very least, someone else had been present at the scene and had covered the bodies up,
00:57:18
perhaps to preserve their dignity. Detectives asked anyone who had been at Lane Cove on New Year's morning
00:57:26
to come forward. One man who identified himself only as Mr. Roberts called to say he'd seen Dr.
00:57:34
Bogle's Ford Prefect parked near Fuller's Bridge at around 4:30 a.m. with a woman
00:57:41
inside. He hung up the call before providing any further information and the call couldn't be traced.
00:57:50
4 days later, the same man called back after his car, a Ford Escort, had been identified as being in the area at the
00:57:58
time in question. This time, he identified himself as Kenneth Shalley. Shalley provided an in-person
00:58:07
statement in which he said that he'd arrived at the Lancove River around 4:00 a.m. on January 1.
00:58:15
He claimed he often went there to look for plants for his garden, but under pressure from the police, he cracked and
00:58:22
admitted he was really there to spy on couples having sex. Shelley said that at around 4:30
00:58:30
a.m., he'd been walking along Lady Game Drive, which runs parallel to the river,
00:58:36
when a Ford Prefect matching the description of Gilbert Bogle's car passed him and stopped halfway off the
00:58:42
road. A man and woman were in the front seat. Shelley locked eyes with the man who he later identified as Gilbert Bogle
00:58:52
and noted that he looked very pale. He also got the impression that Gilbert was about to say something to
00:58:59
him but then stopped. Shalley kept walking and when he returned half an hour later, the
00:59:08
prefect was gone. He continued on and found it was now parked near Fuller's Bridge with no one
00:59:16
inside. Shalley got into his car and drove along the dirt track where Gilbert's body was later
00:59:23
found. He didn't see Gilbert or Margaret, but he did claim to see a tall, well-built man with long blonde
00:59:30
hair who jumped out of the bushes and then disappeared down the riverbank. Kenneth Shelley vehemently denied being
00:59:39
the one who covered up the two bodies. Although investigators found him to be a suspicious character, they
00:59:47
thought he was likely telling the truth. Shalley only had one arm, and it seemed highly improbable that he could
00:59:54
have placed the clothes so precisely over Gilbert Burgle's body in the way they were.
01:00:04
Weeks passed and the mysterious case remained in the headlines as the tabloids continued to discuss various
01:00:12
theories. Despite the ongoing speculation, there still hadn't been any breakthroughs in the
01:00:19
investigation. By the third week, the police put out another call for anyone who had been near Fuller's Bridge in the
01:00:26
early morning hours of January 1 to come forward. One tipster reported having seen a green
01:00:33
and white Ford sedan parked in the area. After this detail was broadcasted by the
01:00:40
media, the owner of the car presented himself as Eddie Batiste. Eddie was a Greyhound trainer
01:00:47
who claimed he'd passed over Fuller's Bridge just after 4:30 a.m. on New Year's Day.
01:00:54
He said he'd driven along the upper bush track of the Lanc Cove River where he parked his car and then took his dogs
01:01:01
for a walk to the golf course. Eddie claimed he never went on the lower bush track where Gilbert Bogle
01:01:09
and Margaret Chandler's bodies were found. He recalled seeing a Ford Prefect parked near Fuller's Bridge, but claimed
01:01:17
he didn't see either of its occupants. Detectives were a little suspicious of Eddie. If he had nothing to hide, they
01:01:27
wondered why it took him 3 weeks to come forward. They considered whether Eddie's
01:01:33
greyhounds had actually sniffed out the two bodies, and Eddie had felt compelled
01:01:37
to cover them up to protect their modesty. Inquiries with those who knew Eddie revealed that he was known to be a bit
01:01:46
of a prude, while his son also claimed that Eddie had arrived home on New Year's morning in an agitated
01:01:54
state. But Eddie firmly denied having ever seen the two bodies, and police had no evidence to prove otherwise.
01:02:03
Like everything else in the case, his potential presence at the scene became yet another unfounded
01:02:12
supposition. By the end of the investigation's first month, toxicologists had conducted tests on all
01:02:19
the standard poisons available in Australia, checking everything from aphrodesiacs to weed killers to carbon
01:02:26
dioxide and eliminated each one. They moved on to the rarer poisons, enlisting help from international police
01:02:35
forces such as Interpol and Scotland Yard. It was speculated that the pair could have been bitten by a venomous
01:02:43
creature such as a funnel web spider. Every possibility was seriously considered, but eventually in mid-March,
01:02:52
the families were given the go-ahad to proceed with funerals for their loved ones.
01:02:58
Gilbert was buried in a northern Sydney cemetery while Margaret was cremated 2 days
01:03:05
later. By late April, 4 months had passed, and rigorous testing of Margaret and Gilbert's organs, tissue, and blood
01:03:14
samples, as well as swabs of their skin, and clothing, had revealed nothing to indicate the presence of any poisonous
01:03:21
substance. Investigators had interviewed over 200 people, and still no answers had come to
01:03:33
light. The only thing left to do was hold an official coronial inquest. In May 1963, the inquest
01:03:42
commenced in what was then known as Sydney's Central Court of Petty Sessions. Curious members of the public lined up
01:03:50
outside the courthouse, hoping to get one of the 50 seats available in the public gallery so they could catch a
01:03:57
real life glimpse of the people who had filled their newspapers for the past 4 months. Over the next 3 weeks, the court
01:04:07
heard from close to 50 witnesses, including Jeffrey Chandler, Pamela Logan, Ken and Ruth Nash, and an array
01:04:15
of investigators and analysts who had been involved with various aspects of the case. The collective hope was that a
01:04:23
seemingly insignificant fact would be dropped that would solve the mystery of how Gilbert and Margaret had died once
01:04:30
and for all. Witnesses appeared in chronological order, starting with the New Year's Eve
01:04:36
party, before moving on to the discovery of the bodies, the official police investigation, the toxicology testing,
01:04:43
and so on. 63 exhibits were tended and dissected. Witnesses were cross-examined and carefully probed, and any criticisms
01:04:54
were openly debated. Tensions were high at the end of the month as the coroner, Jack Looms,
01:05:02
presented his findings. Looms declared, quote, "Every person I felt could give any information
01:05:11
as to the deaths of these unfortunate persons has been summoned to appear. A mass of evidence in addition
01:05:19
to the scientific and medical evidence has been presented. One would like to think that no stone
01:05:27
has been left unturned. Despite all this, the coroner said he was no closer to ascertaining
01:05:35
the manner and cause of Gilbert and Margaret's deaths than he was before the inquest
01:05:41
started. Forensic pathologists still couldn't even determine exactly how the pair had died.
01:05:49
All Looms could say for sure was that the two had suffered from acute cardiac failure associated with anoxia and
01:05:57
pulmonary edema. In other words, their hearts had stopped beating and they'd stopped
01:06:03
breathing, but it couldn't be determined why or even in what order those two things happened.
01:06:11
Coroner Looms clarified that it wasn't his role to theorize or provide an opinion unless it could be supported by
01:06:18
evidence, nor was it a court of morals. He commended the investigative efforts, stating, quote, "Everything
01:06:28
humanly possible has been done. There is one thing, however, I feel I can say with absolute certainty, and that is
01:06:36
that each of these unfortunate persons died an unnatural death. But as to the manner or cause, I am unable to
01:06:45
[Music] say. The lack of answers brought by the inquest left everyone who had been
01:06:54
following the case in a state of shock and only added to the public's speculation and growing fears that a
01:07:00
murderer could be on the loose. A press conference was called in which the police commissioner reassured
01:07:07
the public that the investigation was ongoing and that a new team of detectives would take over to review the
01:07:14
case with fresh eyes. One week later, a letter arrived at the police station from a Brisbane-based
01:07:21
zoologologist who introduced a new theory. Dr. Robert End worked in a lab that specialized in conis geographers, a
01:07:32
highly venomous species of predatory cone snail. After reading about the Bogle Chandler case, Dr. Andine believed the
01:07:41
pair showed symptoms that were akin to being poisoned by Konis geographers and he suggested that someone with this
01:07:48
knowledge could have used the species as an unsuspecting murder weapon. Police looked into Dr. Endane's
01:07:56
theory and discovered something unexpected. His research assistant was a young woman named Claraara Bry.
01:08:05
Despite living in Queensland, Claraara had a surprising connection to Jeffrey and Margaret
01:08:12
Chandler. She was married to Bilberry, the friend of Jeff, who Margaret had once had an affair
01:08:19
with. She was also an expert on Konis geographers Venom. Detectives flew to Queensland to
01:08:28
interview Claraara Bry. She said that despite their toxicity, she didn't believe it was possible to
01:08:35
kill someone with a cone shell. Doing so would require the venom to be stabilized, extracted, and then
01:08:44
injected. It wouldn't be toxic if it was mixed into a drink or eaten. But for the investigative team,
01:08:52
suspicions were officially aroused. Even more so after they contacted the airlines and discovered that a passenger
01:08:59
by the name of G. Chandler had flown from Sydney to Brisbane just weeks before New Year's Day
01:09:08
1963. Samples of the toxin were taken back to Sydney to test against Margaret and Gilbert's tissue
01:09:15
samples. It was a suspenseful 10-day wait before the results of the toxicology test were
01:09:21
delivered. There was no match. While the case remained in the headlines and various scientists, medical
01:09:30
professionals, and concerned members of the public continued to come forward with their own theories and suggestions
01:09:36
about what could have killed the pair. Nothing of note was uncovered. In the years that followed, detectives
01:09:44
continued to seriously consider every possibility. But eventually, the chief toxicologist ran out of viable tissue
01:09:52
samples to test against, and the case ran cold. Conspiracy theories continued to
01:09:59
thrive over the following two decades, with the case becoming somewhat of an urban legend, but the truth of the
01:10:06
matter remained unknown. Then in the late 1980s came a potential breakthrough. At the time of Gilbert
01:10:19
Bogle and Margaret Chandler's deaths in 1963, there had been some whispers that the two could have been experimenting
01:10:26
with the psychedelic drug lysurgic acid dialomide, more commonly known as LSD, and accidentally overdosed.
01:10:36
Some thought they could have taken the drug willingly or that someone could have slipped it into their
01:10:41
drinks. Some tabloids even incorrectly claimed that several guests at the Nash's New Year's party had been
01:10:49
frequent users of LSD when in reality the party had been a relatively sober event.
01:10:56
The possibility that Margaret and Gilbert could have overdosed on LSD was never given much weight due to the fact
01:11:03
that LSD had never caused any known overdoses. While people had died using the drug, this was typically due to
01:11:12
misadventure, such as jumping from heights while under its influence, not as a direct result of the drug itself.
01:11:20
Furthermore, LSD wasn't even considered an illegal substance at the time. It was mostly used for scientific
01:11:28
and medical research rather than as a recreational drug, and it wasn't readily available.
01:11:36
Gilbert Bogle's lab at the CSRO had been searched following unfounded speculation
01:11:42
that he could have been manufacturing the drug himself, but nothing used in the production of LSD was found and
01:11:50
toxicology tests revealed no trace of LSD in either of the deceased systems. Then in 1987, an inmate at a British
01:12:01
prison asked his girlfriend to sneak a capsule of LSD in and transfer it to his mouth via a
01:12:08
kiss. She granted his request, but the man accidentally swallowed the capsule, which was estimated to be around 400
01:12:16
times the usual dosage. He subsequently died, making him the first person on record to have taken
01:12:24
a lethal overdose of LSD. A scientist who examined the man realized he'd read about similar
01:12:32
symptoms before in the Bogle Chandler case and he suspected they could have fallen victim to a similar
01:12:40
overdose. He believed that the reason toxicology testing returned a negative result was that the proper testing
01:12:47
techniques were not available at the time. LSD is a synthetic drug and when extracted from the body and exposed to
01:12:56
sunlight, it decomposes before it can be identified in any physical test. Instead, testing needs to be done
01:13:05
in a dark room, a fact that the pathologists who conducted the autopsies on Gilbert and Margaret hadn't been
01:13:12
aware of. In 1989, an article in the Sydney Morning Herald newspaper by award-winning journalist Philip Nightly
01:13:22
sensationally claimed, quote, "New scientific evidence has broken one of Australia's most baffling
01:13:30
homicides. Today, the cause of death can be confidently established. The couple overdosed on LSD."
01:13:41
The article reported that the New South Wales Health Department's Division of Forensic Medicine agreed that an LSD
01:13:47
overdose was the likely cause of the pair's deaths. Nightly wrote that Gilbert Bogle
01:13:54
and his colleagues had been creating the drug at the CSRO labs and their deaths had been part of a government cover up
01:14:01
to conceal this fact. He stated that the CSRO staff had been using LSD as quote a party drug for
01:14:10
sexual debauchery in which wife swapping was not unusual and that Gilbert had brought a supply of the drug to the New
01:14:17
Year's Eve party. He and Margaret took it to heighten their sexual awareness without
01:14:24
knowing the safe amount for consumption and subsequently overdosed and died. In reality, there was nothing to
01:14:34
substantiate this theory. Colleagues of Gilberts fiercely denied that he would have had any access
01:14:41
to or interest in LSD, while Jeffrey Chantler said he didn't even know about LSD at the time, and Margaret wouldn't
01:14:49
have been interested in such a thing. But the theory persisted and in 1996 a renowned American forensic toxicologist
01:14:59
claimed he had advanced equipment that could detect if LSD was present in Gilbert and Margaret
01:15:07
systems. Relic tissue samples were sent to the United States where they were subject to new forensic
01:15:14
techniques. A first test indicated the presence of LSD. Sydney newspapers were quick to declare
01:15:22
that the mystery had finally been solved once and for all. Yet, a second, more sensitive test was conducted, and this
01:15:31
one came up negative. It was yet another in a long series of red herrings. In 2004, Australian filmmaker Peter Butt
01:15:46
began looking into the Bogle Chandler case for a possible documentary. Having followed the case
01:15:52
for 20 years and already read everything that was publicly available, Peter wrote
01:15:57
to the New South Wales Police requesting access to the full case files. While he waited for a reply,
01:16:05
something occurred to him that had never crossed his mind before. As a school boy, Peter remembered
01:16:13
learning that mangroves produce gases, including the potentially toxic hydrogen sulfide. Low concentrations of hydrogen
01:16:23
sulfide are detectable by the human nose thanks to its offensive stench of rotten
01:16:28
eggs. But as concentrations increase, the gas overcomes the alactory receptors in the nose that are responsible for
01:16:36
picking up odors and it can no longer be detected. At low levels, the gas is harmless. But as concentrations
01:16:46
increase, it can be as deadly as hydrogen cyanide. Once hydrogen sulfide reaches a level of
01:16:53
300 parts per million, it can cause fluid to build up in a person's lungs, leading to dizziness, clumsiness, and
01:17:02
diarrhea. At 700 parts per million, it paralyzes the respiratory center, causing rapid unconsciousness, and
01:17:10
death. Over 800 parts per million, and all it takes is one or two breaths for a person to die instantly.
01:17:21
Peter But recalled that hydrogen sulfide is heavier than air and will linger in open spaces close to the ground if the
01:17:28
air is cool and still, just like it was in the early morning hours of New Year's
01:17:34
Day, 1963. Although it had been the peak of summer, the week following Christmas Day had
01:17:42
been the coldest on record for this time of year, and mornings around Lanc Cove had been dank and
01:17:49
misty. His curiosity aroused, Peter visited the site at Lanc River where Gilbert Bogle and Margaret Chandler had
01:17:57
died and saw that mangroves lined the waterway, their aerial roots sticking out of the mud in a way Peter likened to
01:18:05
dead man's fingers. It occurred to him that the answer to this 41-year mystery could
01:18:13
have been sitting in front of everyone's face this entire time. Peter But began researching the river's
01:18:21
history and discovered that the once thriving waterway began to lose favor with visitors around the late 1930s due
01:18:29
to its increasingly polluted state. Growing industrialization and the construction of a sewer line along the
01:18:37
river had proved to be environmental hazards with increasing sediment prompting the spread of mangrove swamps.
01:18:45
Green weeds thrived in the waterway with fish and eels dying by the truckload. By 1939, local residents
01:18:55
started complaining that the river smelt like rotten eggs, particularly in the early morning
01:19:02
hours. Similar complaints cropped up year after year until 1947 when residents started reporting that the
01:19:10
stench was impacting their health. Not only was it causing vomiting and breathing difficulties, but some
01:19:17
residents noted that it was causing the paint on their homes to peel off. Health inspectors from the Lane
01:19:25
Cove Council investigated the matter at the time, but couldn't find the cause of
01:19:30
the problem. They assumed it was likely a combination of rotting algae and industrial waste.
01:19:38
A marine scientist was tasked with investigating the matter further. He collected samples over
01:19:44
several months and determined the odor was actually hydrogen sulfide. A 5 km stretch of the riverbed
01:19:53
from Fuller's bridge to the rivermouth was saturated with it. It wasn't just a result of the
01:20:00
mangroves, but chemical action in the water caused by decaying marine life and increasing industrial pollution from the
01:20:08
factories that disposed of their waste fluid directly into the river. The hydrogen sulfide levels were
01:20:15
at their highest about 400 m from the Lancove Weir, right near where Gilbert Bogle and Margaret Chandler had died.
01:20:28
The New South Wales police refused Peterbart access to the case file on the basis that the case was still open. But
01:20:36
when he explained his theory that the two could have been poisoned by hydrogen sulfide, they agreed to make a rare
01:20:43
exception. As Peter looked through all the scientific and forensic evidence, he was
01:20:49
shocked to discover that several gases had been considered and tested by toxicologists in the Bogle Chandler
01:20:55
case, but not hydrogen sulfide. The gas was only mentioned once during a 1971 review of the case when it was
01:21:06
ruled out based on various factors, including that there was no obvious source of the gas and that even if there
01:21:13
were, it wouldn't kill two people in an open environment. Peter But began reaching
01:21:21
out to various experts, including Dr. Thomas Milby, an American forensic toxicologist specializing in poisonous
01:21:29
gases who had served on the World Health Organization's hydrogen sulfide committee. Dr. Milby had investigated
01:21:37
over a 100 cases involving hydrogen sulfide poisoning and was well aware that the gas was capable of killing
01:21:44
people out in the open if the environmental conditions were right. He was so intrigued by Peter's theory
01:21:52
that he flew to Sydney to see the Lancave death scene for himself. Environmental awareness had led
01:22:00
to improvements in the river and the hydrogen sulfide levels in the mud were no longer at dangerous levels, but the
01:22:07
waterway still suffered from neglect and pollution. If hydrogen sulfide had been released
01:22:14
from the river bottom on New Year's Day 1963, Dr. Milby told Peter that the B-shaped depression in the riverbed
01:22:22
where Margaret and Gilbert lay would have been the worst place to be. The private spot they'd chosen was
01:22:30
at water level between the bank and a small mangrove swamp where in the cool still air high concentrations of the gas
01:22:38
could accumulate and get trapped. breathing heavily during a sexual encounter. The gas could have overcome
01:22:46
them very suddenly and they could have found themselves suffocating. Quickly overcome with
01:22:52
delirium and desperate for air, Margaret could have grabbed Gilbert's underwear by mistake before stumbling down the
01:22:59
riverbank where she collapsed. Dr. Milby studied the autopsies and concluded to Peter. I saw nothing in either report
01:23:11
that would, in my opinion, exclude the possibility of hydrogen sulfide as being the culprit that killed
01:23:19
them. Dr. Milby explained that hydrogen sulfide poisoning isn't easy to detect during an autopsy because it produces no
01:23:28
characteristic abnormalities other than fluid in the lungs, congestion of the internal organs, and small purple spots
01:23:35
on the skin. If no other cause of death is found, the only telltale sign of hydrogen sulfide poisoning is a greenish
01:23:43
or purple color in the blood. But this doesn't always occur, and nothing in either of the autopsies had mentioned a
01:23:51
discoloration to the blood. Peter then made contact with the chief toxicologist who had worked on the
01:23:58
Bogle Chandler case, Viven Mani, without making any mention of his new theory. Viven agreed to talk Peter
01:24:07
through every step of his testing process. He recalled each detail meticulously,
01:24:14
concluding that he found nothing in either Gilbert or Margaret's tissue samples except
01:24:20
caffeine. He then told Peter something he'd only ever discussed with his superior. One thing I am certain of, he
01:24:30
said. They both died of the same thing. I base this on the appearance of their blood. Both their bloods had a
01:24:38
distinctive purple coloration. Viven said he tried to find a reason for the discoloration, but careful analysis
01:24:47
hadn't brought him any closer to the answer. He was a little skeptical upon learning of Peterbart's hydrogen sulfide
01:24:55
theory until Peter looped him in on a detail he'd never been privy to before. Nobody had ever informed Vivien about
01:25:04
the semen found on Gilbert Bogle's body and a jacket that proved the two were engaging in a sexual act before they
01:25:12
died. This meant he'd been investigating all manners of poison that didn't fit the timeline or circumstances, including
01:25:20
that they could have been suffering the effects of a poison when they'd arrived at the river.
01:25:26
Annoyed that this information had been kept from him, Viven researched the hydrogen sulfide theory for
01:25:34
himself, he told Peter that if Gilbert and Margaret went to the riverbank with the intention of having sex, it was
01:25:41
highly unlikely they would have drank from the river or eaten anything before lying down together.
01:25:48
That meant that whatever had killed them was present in the depression where they
01:25:53
lay and it acted very swiftly. The only sensible explanation was that while they were in close
01:26:00
contact with one another, they'd positioned their faces near a heavy concentration of a very toxic gas.
01:26:09
Viven told Peter that if he'd known about their sexual interaction 42 years ago, he would have attributed the purple
01:26:16
color of their blood to something like hydrogen sulfide. And quote, "The case would have been over in a
01:26:24
[Music] week." Peter But revealed his findings in a television documentary titled Who
01:26:33
Killed Dr. Bogle and Mrs. Chandler? and later in a book and podcast series dedicated to the
01:26:40
case. After the documentary was first aired by the Australian Broadcasting Commission in 2006, two people contacted
01:26:48
Peter who claimed to have been at Lane Cove on New Year's Day 1963. They both recalled just how
01:26:56
heavily polluted and putrid smelling the water had been. One of their dogs had rolled in the mud,
01:27:03
and the stench of rotten eggs was near impossible to remove. But another curious revelation
01:27:11
came before the documentary even aired. After seeing the film advertised, a woman named Lorraine Blackwood
01:27:19
contacted Peterbart with something to get off her chest. Lorraine was 11 years old at the
01:27:25
time that Gilbert and Margaret died. She told Peter that a few days after the mysterious deaths, she was exploring an
01:27:33
area of bushland about 5 km from the death scene with her sister and some other boys when they found a woman's
01:27:40
cream colored handbag next to a storm water drain. Inside was some makeup, a handkerchief, and two bottles of white
01:27:49
pills prescribed to a Mrs. Margaret Chandler. Lorraine claimed she bought the bag home and her mother panicked.
01:27:57
Not wanting to get involved in the notorious case, she hid it in the garage before getting rid of it
01:28:05
entirely. Margaret's husband, Jeffrey Chandler, had told police that Margaret didn't bring a handbag with her to the
01:28:12
Nash's party, leaving this detail supplied by Lorraine up for debate. But for Peter Butt, the most
01:28:20
compelling aspect of Lraine's story was the location where the handbag was supposedly found.
01:28:27
It was opposite the home of the nephew of Eddie Batiste, the Greyhound trainer who police suspected might have covered
01:28:34
the bodies of Margaret and Gilbert and not far from where Eddie himself lived. Eddie Batiste had died in 1976,
01:28:44
but Peter tracked down his children who agreed that their father probably wouldn't have told the police if he had
01:28:50
seen the bodies. His daughter described him as a very secretive man, while his son said he was a moralist who had an
01:28:57
aversion to the side of bare human flesh. Eddie Batist's obituary was published in the magazine National
01:29:05
Greyhound News, and it stated that he was the one who had found Margaret and Gilbert's
01:29:12
bodies. He had allegedly told this to a close friend. Whether Eddie really was the one who
01:29:19
covered the bodies remains unknown. The enduring mystery of the Bogle Chandler case has become somewhat
01:29:30
of folklore among Australians familiar with the story. But as coroner Jack Looms stated at the inquest in
01:29:39
1963, one can never lose sight of the fact that the deceased, whoever it may be, is someone's mother, someone's
01:29:47
father, someone's sister, or someone's brother. And very often, the ones left behind are the ones to suffer or find
01:29:56
their reputation damaged. Looms acknowledged he'd found it incredibly difficult to balance the need
01:30:04
for answers with his desire to protect the privacy of those involved. If indeed the pair did die by
01:30:11
hydrogen sulfide poisoning, then the personal lives of many were publicly aired and their reputations tarnished
01:30:18
for no reason. Gilbert Bogle's wife, Viven, avoided the public attention by promptly moving to
01:30:26
New Zealand, with the press once describing her as the unknown living victim of the tragedy. But others were
01:30:34
also affected. Ruth Nash, the co-host of the fateful New Year's Eve party, died on
01:30:41
New Year's Day 1974. Two years later, on New Year's Day 1976, her husband Ken shot
01:30:50
[Music] himself. Jeffrey Chandler sacrificed his privacy by releasing a book about the
01:30:57
case in 1969 titled So You Think I Did It. Jeffrey wanted to set the record straight about various elements of the
01:31:06
case, including his seemingly emotionless reaction upon being told that Margaret was dead.
01:31:14
Jeffrey explained that he'd been disgusted by the way police had pushed a newspaper article in his face rather
01:31:20
than delivering the news with humanity. He wrote, "Whatever their reasons or motives, the manner of the
01:31:28
revelation dealt me a blow of such shocking cruelty I can find no words to describe it. I sat there in the station
01:31:37
waiting, the children half asleep beside me. Nobody explained anything. From that point on, he was
01:31:47
determined not to give them the reactions they so obviously wanted. Jeffrey later told filmmaker
01:31:55
Peter Bart that both he and his two sons suffered quite severe psychological and
01:32:01
emotional damage arising from this event. In the prologue of So You Think I Did It, Jeffrey wrote, "This book is written
01:32:11
for my sons to get the record straight." Margaret longed for her children and went through much to give them birth.
01:32:20
She looked forward to glorious years of enjoyment with them. Instead, she was cruy
01:32:27
deprived. They too. Our eldest has a cloudy memory of his mother. Our youngest nothing. My sons deserve something
01:32:38
better than the fragmented facts and wild speculations that accompanied their mother's
01:32:44
death. I want my sons to know the truth because the truth is the one thing that cannot harm them.
01:32:54
Prior to his death in 2009, Jeffrey agreed that Peterbut's theory about hydrogen sulfide poisoning seemed like
01:33:01
the most realistic explanation. Many other scientists and investigators agree. This possibility was bolstered
01:33:11
further in 2012 when a retired psychologist from CRA contacted Peter But with another surprise revelation.
01:33:20
He claimed that back in 1965, a young woman he'd met through a chance encounter confided in him that she'd
01:33:27
been at Lane Cove on New Year's morning 1963 and had seen a man and woman whom she believed to be Gilbert Bogle and
01:33:35
Margaret Chandler having sex on the riverbank. They'd stopped all of a sudden with Margaret grabbing her
01:33:43
throat, making a strangling noise, and staggering off while Gilbert rolled away.
01:33:49
The air rigged of rotten eggs. The woman who claimed to have witnessed this initially thought the
01:33:57
pair were on drugs and she left the scene, becoming dizzy and stumbling as she did
01:34:03
so. When she heard about the Bogle Chandler deaths in the following days, she was too afraid to come forward
01:34:11
because she hadn't been alone on the river. She'd been with her female partner, and
01:34:17
the pair didn't want their relationship outed as same-sex relationships were frowned upon at the
01:34:23
time. In 2016, Peter Butt made a public appeal for this woman or her partner to come forward and make an official
01:34:31
statement, but they never did. The truth about exactly what happened to Gilbert Bogle and Margaret
01:34:40
Chandler on that riverbank will likely never be known for certain. With no viable blood or tissue
01:34:48
samples left to test, everything is circumstantial. As one reporter for the Sydney Morning Herald once
01:34:56
stated, "In many ways, the answers are lost in another time, another place, a different country.
01:35:05
So many things have changed. [Music] [Music] Whatever.

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Episode Highlights

  • A Distressing Discovery
    Michael McCormack finds a man lying face down by the river, initially thinking he's just drunk.
    “Michael's first thought was that the man must have had too much to drink.”
    @ 01m 44s
    April 26, 2025
  • A Shocking Revelation
    Detectives uncover two bodies, a man and a woman, found just meters apart with no signs of violence.
    “Here they had two semi-naked bodies just 15 m apart, both oddly covered up.”
    @ 08m 14s
    April 26, 2025
  • The Mystery Deepens
    Vivian Bogle learns her husband was found dead alongside a mystery woman, leaving her stunned.
    “She had no idea who the woman could be.”
    @ 13m 41s
    April 26, 2025
  • The Shocking Discovery
    Margaret's parents are devastated to learn about her death and Jeffrey's claims.
    “They couldn't imagine Margaret would ever agree to such an arrangement.”
    @ 33m 46s
    April 26, 2025
  • Open Marriage Confession
    Jeffrey reveals to detectives that he and Margaret had an open marriage arrangement.
    “They recognized each other's rights as individuals.”
    @ 34m 12s
    April 26, 2025
  • Suspicion on Joan Gordon
    Joan Gordon, the only single woman at the party, becomes a suspect due to her jealousy.
    “Police theorized that Joan could have been infatuated with Gilbert.”
    @ 44m 01s
    April 26, 2025
  • The Media Sensation
    The case became a media sensation, scandalizing Sydney with tales of affairs and murder plots.
    “Sydney siders were left scandalized by the lurid details about open marriages.”
    @ 48m 10s
    April 26, 2025
  • Coroner's Inquest
    The inquest revealed no new evidence, leaving the public in shock and speculation.
    “Despite all this, the coroner said he was no closer to ascertaining the manner and cause of deaths.”
    @ 01h 05m 33s
    April 26, 2025
  • The Cone Snail Theory
    A zoologist suggested that the pair could have been poisoned by a venomous cone snail.
    “Dr. End believed the pair showed symptoms akin to being poisoned by Konis geographers.”
    @ 01h 07m 41s
    April 26, 2025
  • Hydrogen Sulfide Discovery
    Peter Butt's investigation led to the theory that hydrogen sulfide poisoning could explain the couple's deaths, a possibility overlooked for decades.
    @ 01h 18m 13s
    April 26, 2025
  • Jeffrey Chandler's Struggle
    Jeffrey Chandler's emotional turmoil following his wife's death was compounded by the media's insensitivity and public speculation.
    @ 01h 31m 26s
    April 26, 2025
  • The Mysterious Encounter
    A woman recalls witnessing a shocking scene at Lane Cove on New Year's morning in 1963.
    @ 01h 33m 27s
    April 26, 2025

Episode Quotes

  • The pair had been poisoned.
    The mysterious deadly affair of 1960s Australia
  • If you want to take a Gibb as a lover, do it.
    The mysterious deadly affair of 1960s Australia
  • She's a bit disheveled, isn't she?
    The mysterious deadly affair of 1960s Australia
  • If she couldn't have him, then no one could.
    The mysterious deadly affair of 1960s Australia
  • New scientific evidence has broken one of Australia’s most baffling homicides.
    The mysterious deadly affair of 1960s Australia
  • The case would have been over in a week.
    The mysterious deadly affair of 1960s Australia

Key Moments

  • New Year's Day00:09
  • Vivian's Grief13:22
  • Attraction Revealed24:01
  • Party Scene25:03
  • Lead on Poisoning41:46
  • LSD Speculation1:10:56
  • Hydrogen Sulfide Theory1:18:13
  • Witness Account1:33:23

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