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Mitotherapy Breakthrough: Supercharging Your Cells ⚡️| Science Corner with David Friedberg

April 23, 202507:20
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So mitochondria are the powerhouse of
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the cell as Tim just told us, educated
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us, right? So every cell has hundreds of
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mitochondria and mitochondria are what
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are called organels. They have their own
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DNA. In fact, evolutionarily
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mitochondria were bacteria that
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basically ended up in the symbiotic
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relationship with what became our cells.
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So we each have mitochondria, hundreds
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of them in each one of our cells. Each
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mitochondria has its own nucleus and has
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its own DNA. And the mitochondria make
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the energy that the rest of the cell
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uses. That energy is called ATP. And it
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eats up glucose or it eats up ketones if
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you're in ketosis. And it uses that to
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make the ATP. So every cell in our body
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gets its energy, which is what it uses
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to function from the mitochondria. And
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so there's been a lot of research into
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the relationship between mitochondria
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and aging and that dysfunctional
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mitochondria as they start to break down
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and stop working and have damage may
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actually be a key driver for many
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diseases that we experience as humans
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including many cancers, Alzheimer's,
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Parkinson's, ALS, features of autism,
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muscle tissues being weak, etc. So as
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the cells get older and the mitochondria
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stop working, we make new mitochondria.
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But over time, the DNA degrades and the
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mitochondria become less effective and
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there are fewer functional mitochondria
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per cell. The cell stops working right
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and eventually the organism stops
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working, right? Have you have you
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learned anything about the connection of
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creatine to mitochondrial health? It's
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part of um some of the processes, but
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there's some separate research on this,
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but it's definitely worth spending time
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on. People are crazy about hitting five
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grams or 10 grams of becoming like a
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trend. Yeah, I think it's Oh, yeah. I
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know. Five grams. Yeah, something like
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that. It's trending on Twitter. I think
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it's kind of like a meme or a joke in
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addition to being I don't I don't think
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it's a joke. Is it is it But it does it
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is there any science that backs that up
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or not really for mitochondria? There
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are questions on this like do you want
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to focus on things that are increasing
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biogenesis which is creation of new
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mitochondria? Does that create a better
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benefit on the creatine work? I've read
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some of these papers. I actually tried
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it for a while. I personally had a
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allergy to it which is kind of rare but
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happens but anyway we can talk about it
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further. So so one of the key things was
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um there were three papers that I wanted
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to just highlight that kind of follow an
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interesting theme. The first one was
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from 2023 from WashU in St. Louis and
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this paper, Nick, if you could just pull
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up that image
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of mitochondria being transferred. These
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folks identified and demonstrated that
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mitochondria can actually transfer from
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one cell to another. So, if you've got a
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cell that's got damaged or dysfunctional
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mitochondria, they've identified three
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mechanisms by which mitochondria can
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move into a cell that needs more
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mitochondria that are working and are
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more functional. That's something that's
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been theorized for a long time. People
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have said, "Oh, well, we think
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mitochondria transfer." But there wasn't
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really evidence of this. So, as of two
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years ago, these guys provided very good
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evidence of mitochondria that we can now
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put into cells. If it's floating around,
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it can make its way into another cell
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and as a result, it can rejuvenate or
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provide energy to a dysfunctional cell
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which might improve dysfunctional tissue
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or improve disease. The second paper was
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done um last month out of Columbia
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University. And this was the first
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mapping of the mitochondria in the human
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brain. And so these folks created 703
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tiny cubes of brain from a person that
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passed away, a 54 year old donor. And
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then they analyzed the mitochondria in
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each of those cubes. And they used that
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to make a map of mitochondria in the
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brain. And what it showed was that
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different parts of the brain, different
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cells had different amounts of
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mitochondria and different mitochondrial
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function, which actually starts to
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highlight how that difference in energy
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production in different cells in
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different parts of the brain may
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actually cause some of the things like
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memory loss or speech impairment or um
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as we age, the fact that we end up
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being, you know, kind of forgetful or
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start to lose some of our capacity. that
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the mitochondrial dysfunction in the
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brain might actually be the key driver
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of that aging um
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symptomology. The third paper which just
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came out came out of a team at Sha Jang
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University in China. So what these guys
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did which was really incredible is they
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took stem cells. So stem cells that they
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got out of human blood and they took
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those stem cells and they figured out a
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way to treat the stem cells that those
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stem cells would start to make an excess
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amount of mitochondria than they
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normally would make. In fact they were
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able to get those stem cells to make
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854 times the number of mitochondria
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that those cells would normally make.
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And those mitochondria were on average
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5.7 times more efficient at making
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energy, ATP. So they created highly
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energetic mitochondria and they made a
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lot of them. And the idea that we can
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put mitochondria into our body or into
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tissue in our body to heal it or repair
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it has been something that folks have
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been trying to do research around for a
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long time. But the limiting factor is
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access to enough mitochondria. So this
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mechanism that they developed where they
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could take stem cells, make copies of
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the stem cells, make lots of
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mitochondria and then they isolate that
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mitochondria and use it as a therapeutic
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tool and they did it in cartilage that
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was damaged and they were able to heal
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that cartilage. So um this is a group
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that does bone and and tissue repair
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studies, but they applied the
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mitochondria directly into the area
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where there was damage to the bone and
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the bone grew back and it actually
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improved the healing in an incredible
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way. So this this opens up the door to
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this whole new therapeutic modality, a
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new type of therapy called midotherapy
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or mitochondrial therapy that based on
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the series of papers that we're seeing
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coming out recently, I believe could end
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up becoming a really incredible um new
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therapy that may ultimately lead to the
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treatment for many diseases that we're
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kind of dealing with right now. So, I
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just wanted to kind of like this be uh
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immediately applicable to say people
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with sports injuries, you know,
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meniscus, knees, ankles. You start to
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think about those bones, spurs, chips
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that basketball players, football
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players go through. Would that this be
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like the lowhanging fruit for this
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technology? Yeah. I mean, what they did
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this in and I think this was published
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in a research magazine called Bone or
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something. Bone and tissue or something.
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Yeah. But they did I'll let my
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subscription lapse. I got to thank for
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reminding me. They did it in a in a
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model a mouse model of osteoarthritis um
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and it repaired this osteoarthritis. But
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that's exactly right. And so that's
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tissue where you can using a microscope
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you can actually see the healing
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happening. But you could see this being
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applied for example uh to cerebral
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spinal fluid where you can basically
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increase the mitochondrial the energetic
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mitochondrial production uh that finds
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its way into maybe neuronal cells into
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neurons in your brain and improves um uh
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your brain function. or you could put it
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into damaged hearts after heart attacks
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and improve heart function. So there's
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all these theories about how you could
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use mootherapy as this becomes possible
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to now produce lots of mitochondria and
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use it as a therapy that can then be
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applied to lots of disease states. So I
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I I I think there's going to be a bit of
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a blossoming of research in this area of
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mitotherapy.

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In this episode, the conversation dives deep into the fascinating world of mitochondria, the unsung heroes of our cells. With a playful banter, the hosts explore how these tiny powerhouses not only generate energy but also hold the key to understanding aging and various diseases. They discuss groundbreaking research that reveals how mitochondria can transfer between cells, potentially rejuvenating damaged tissues. The episode highlights three pivotal studies: one mapping mitochondrial function in the human brain, another demonstrating stem cells producing a staggering number of efficient mitochondria, and a third showcasing the potential of mitochondrial therapy in healing damaged cartilage. As they unravel the implications of these findings, the hosts spark excitement about the future of medical treatments, particularly for sports injuries and neurodegenerative diseases. This episode is a rollercoaster of scientific discovery, humor, and hope, leaving listeners both informed and inspired to think about the power of mitochondria in a whole new light.

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Episode Highlights

  • Mitochondria: The Powerhouse of Cells
    Mitochondria are essential for energy production in cells and have their own DNA.
    “So every cell in our body gets its energy from the mitochondria.”
    @ 00m 41s
    April 23, 2025
  • Mitochondrial Transfer Research
    Recent studies show that mitochondria can transfer between cells, potentially rejuvenating damaged cells.
    “Mitochondria can actually transfer from one cell to another.”
    @ 02m 41s
    April 23, 2025
  • Mapping Mitochondria in the Human Brain
    A groundbreaking study mapped mitochondria in the human brain, revealing energy production differences.
    “Different parts of the brain may actually cause memory loss or speech impairment.”
    @ 04m 00s
    April 23, 2025
  • The Future of Mitochondrial Therapy
    New research suggests mitochondrial therapy could revolutionize treatment for various diseases.
    “This opens up the door to a whole new therapeutic modality called midotherapy.”
    @ 05m 47s
    April 23, 2025

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  • Mitochondrial Dysfunction00:53
  • Mitochondrial Transfer02:41
  • Brain Mapping03:29
  • Midotherapy Introduction05:47

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