The Exceptions Can't Be the Rule: Inside the Anthropic-Pentagon Fallout

If you don't want your stuff to be used for department war stuff, you shouldn't be selling to the department of war. I'm pretty sure >> it's in the name. >> So, we started these negotiations and and took three months and I had to sort of give them scenarios about like this Chinese hypersonic missile example. They're like, "Okay, we'll give you an exception for that. Well, how about this drone swarm? We'll give you an exception for that." And I was like, "The exceptions doesn't work. I I can't predict for the next 20 years what all the things we might do use AI for. >> Immediately came to mind was like 9/11. You you have to go check with them. You

know, if you find out there's another 9/11 unique black swan event that's going to occur and you have to go clear it with them. >> That was literally the comment when I was Yeah. So, I was in a room of 20 people. So, this is not undeniable if Dario wants to deny it. And I was giving these scenarios, these Golden Dome scenarios and so on. And he's like, "Just call me if you need another exception." And you know, I'm like, but what if the balloon's going up at that moment and it's like a decisive action we have to take? I I'm not going to call you to do something. It's like not rational. And that was another holy cow moment of like how they think about