Bill Maris: How Google Could Crush AI Competitors, Why Small Funds Win, and AI's Atari Stage
- Jun 9, 2026
- 28:42
- Full Episode
(0:00) Bill Maris joins the Besties! (0:33) Four critical lessons from a career in technology (5:58) Building Google Ventures with data and machine learning (9:51) Why small VC funds beat big ones on average (14:36) OpenAI's valuation problem and the AI price war (19:09) AI's "Atari Stage": what comes next? (25:23) VC's broken incentives and the future of deep tech
Thanks to our partners for making this possible!
EY - Agentic AI is introducing a new investment discipline. As AI shifts to consumption-based models, EY connects spend to enterprise value. https://www.ey.com/en_us/insights/ai/agentic-ai-token-costs?WT.mc_id=3501318&AA.tsrc=sponsorship
NYSE - Thank you to our partner, the New York Stock Exchange - a modern marketplace and exchange for building the future. It all happens at the NYSE. https://www.nyse.com
Plaud - Never miss a moment. Plaud, our official wearable AI note-taking partner at All-In Liquidity Summit, captured every insight. https://www.plaud.ai
Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg
Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod
Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod
Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod
Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod
Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg
Brief Summary
Bill Maris discusses his new fund, lessons from Google Ventures, and the future of venture capital in the age of AI.
Key points
- Bill Maris Returns to Investing. After stepping back, Bill Maris raises $150 million for his new fund, Section 32.
- Lessons from a Data Center Entrepreneur. Bill shares insights from his journey, starting with a data center in his apartment.
- The Power of Computer Science. Bill emphasizes the importance of computer science in venture capital success.
- The Case for Smaller Funds. Bill argues that smaller funds can outperform larger ones due to focus and attention.
- The Future of AI and Gaming. The speaker draws parallels between the evolution of gaming and the future of AI, suggesting rapid advancements are on the horizon.
- Challenges in Biotech Investment. The discussion highlights the complexities and challenges in investing in biotech, especially regarding human safety and regulatory hurdles.
Episode highlights
- Lessons from a Data Center EntrepreneurBill shares insights from his journey, starting with a data center in his apartment.“I think I can maybe make a business out of this.”2:06Jun 9, 2026
- The Power of Computer ScienceBill emphasizes the importance of computer science in venture capital success.“Don’t bet against computer science.”8:29Jun 9, 2026
- The Case for Smaller FundsBill argues that smaller funds can outperform larger ones due to focus and attention.“This is simply the math.”9:52Jun 9, 2026
- The Future of AI and GamingThe speaker draws parallels between the evolution of gaming and the future of AI, suggesting rapid advancements are on the horizon.“We're at the Atari command line stage of AI.”20:54Jun 9, 2026
- Challenges in Biotech InvestmentThe discussion highlights the complexities and challenges in investing in biotech, especially regarding human safety and regulatory hurdles.“The gutting of the CDC and the NIH has driven a lot of mind share elsewhere.”23:48Jun 9, 2026
- Broken Incentives in Venture CapitalA critical look at how the structure of venture capital can lead to misaligned incentives for entrepreneurs and investors alike.“The incentives are broken in all those ways.”28:10Jun 9, 2026





