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ROUTINE IS SLOWLY KILLING YOU!

February 19, 202601:31
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It drives me crazy that nobody else
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thinks about risk in this way.
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>> Oh, no. No, no, no. Why?
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>> People look at my life and they're like,
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"Well, you're crazy. You're such a risk
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taker." Well, at least I'm taking the
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risks that I'm choosing. Because think
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of all the people that like go out
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partying every weekend and they get
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buzzed and they drive home. And even
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sedendary people who are like, "Well, I
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don't take risk. I stay home and I play
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video games." No, you're at a much
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higher risk of heart disease. Like,
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they're taking all kinds of risk that
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they're not actually choosing to take
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and you're still going to freaking die
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either way. So, you might as well take
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smart, calculated risks and do all the
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things that you want to do and at least
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die happy when you go.
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>> He's done it. Alice Arnold has made
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history again.
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>> But the conclusion that a lot of people
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have arrived at is that you don't
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experience fear because when they look
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at these two brain scans, your amydala
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is lighting up less when you're shown
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scary images. I I actually hate all the
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brain stuff because people always put me
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in this box. They're like, "Well, you're
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different." And I'm like, "Well, not
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really. Like, I'm a middle class
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suburban kid. Nobody in my family is
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athletic. I just after 20 years of
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climbing 5 days a week and being really
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freaking scared, I respond differently
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than an average person." And there was
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tons of emotional turmoil throughout it.
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Periods where you're just like I'm
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trying so hard and I'm just like not as
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good as I want to be. You know, I was
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like living in a car. I had like a
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couple hundred bucks a month for 10
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years. Like that's challenging, but you
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just can't master a craft overnight.
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>> I guess that's what people don't see.
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And so how do you create the conditions
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to out persist other people? And then in
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all your career, when is the moment
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where you were most scared?
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>> On an expedition to Antarctica. I kept
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hoping that it's going to get better and
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it just kept getting worse.
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>> Do you have a conversation with your
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partner before you go and do something
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like this? Because she wrote a letter.
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>> Oh gosh. This is your worst nightmare,
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she said.

Podspun Insights

In this episode, the conversation dives deep into the nature of risk and fear, as the guest challenges conventional perceptions of what it means to be a risk-taker. With a mix of personal anecdotes and psychological insights, they argue that many people unknowingly engage in riskier behaviors while labeling others as reckless. The discussion takes a turn as the guest reflects on their own journey through the world of climbing, revealing the emotional struggles and sacrifices made along the way. A particularly gripping moment arises when they recount a harrowing expedition to Antarctica, highlighting the thin line between bravery and fear. The episode is a thought-provoking exploration of how we define risk, the importance of calculated choices, and the resilience required to pursue one's passions, all wrapped in a candid and relatable narrative.

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Episode Highlights

  • Taking Risks in Life
    Embrace calculated risks to live fully and die happy. "You might as well take smart, calculated risks and die happy."
    “You might as well take smart, calculated risks and die happy.”
    @ 00m 27s
    February 19, 2026
  • The Journey of Mastery
    Mastering a craft takes time and perseverance, not overnight success. "I just can't master a craft overnight."
    “I just can't master a craft overnight.”
    @ 01m 06s
    February 19, 2026
  • Facing Fears
    A climber reflects on fear and emotional turmoil during their journey. "I kept hoping that it’s going to get better and it just kept getting worse."
    “I kept hoping that it’s going to get better and it just kept getting worse.”
    @ 01m 18s
    February 19, 2026

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Key Moments

  • Calculated Risks00:27
  • Emotional Turmoil00:58
  • Facing Fears01:18