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I learned today, for example, that I'm
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in the Epstein files.
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>> Oh, really?
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>> And here's the way I'm in there.
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>> Three million documents and many of them
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are emails that people have sent at
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different times. Some of the most famous
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people in the world have sent emails to
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Epstein and now those are all out there
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in the public to see.
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>> Some of it I I don't talk about because
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I have a fair amount of inside
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information and I'm just watchful about
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not getting near the line. But
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>> what do you mean by inside information?
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I mean information that that I might
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have gotten from government agencies
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that are clients or that I might have
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gotten because clients were uh were
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implicated. Like I learned today, for
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example, this morning on the way over
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here that I'm in the Epstein files.
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>> Oh, really?
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>> And here's the way I'm in there is that
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someone sent Epstein an article that I
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wrote called Fooling Ourselves into War.
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They sent that to Epstein. So that's an
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example of being in the Epstein files
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and yet obviously never having met
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Epstein. But I won't be the first guest,
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Stephen, that you've had uh that says
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that um it was an intelligence
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operation. Why the US government is
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reluctant to be more uh transparent?
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Some of it is national security. Some of
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it is, let's imagine an ally of ours uh
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is involved in in that operation. So
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there's a reluctance and there's a
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question, could the public handle it?
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Could we handle it? Could the US public
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handle it? My take personally,
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absolutely