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[Music] day eight in the Alec Murdoch day nine of the double degree of the Alec 100
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hours of testimony this is the 14th day of the death trial drags into week four weeks of the defense called more
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witnesses week six day 25 and the double murder trial of Alec Murdoch continues in
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college Alec murdo's on trial for the double homicide of his wife Maggie and his son Paul near the dog kennels of
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their families hunting estate local media has called it the trial of the century in South Carolina it has
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attracted media from across the world Alec murdaugh used to be a really predominant lawyer in South Carolina and
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is a member of this very powerful legal Dynasty on the evening of June 7th 2021 his son
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Paul Murdock standing in a small feet room and some kennels they have on the property the
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defendant over there Al Murdock took a 12-stage shotgun and shot him in the chest and the shoulder but after that
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another shot went up under his head and took into catastrophic damage the lead prosecutor for the state is Creighton
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Waters just moments later picked up a 300 Blackout AR style rifle an open fire on his wife Maggie pow pow
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and killed her instantly Alex Murdoch's claim is that he ate dinner was his family took a nap on the couch he goes
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to visit his mother comes home just after 10 pm and finds his wife and child shot and killed
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um his immediate reaction was to start telling me about an incident that happened with his son with a boating
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accident my son was in a boat wreck months back he's been getting threats I know that's what it is I'm Seth Stoten
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I'm a law professor at the University of South Carolina Paul Murdock was on a boat with some other individuals there
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was drinking the boat crash and one of the individuals on the boat Mallory Beach was killed they told you that it
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was just random Vigilantes from the boat case of which there is no evidence whatsoever they were alleging that Alec
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wanted to murder his wife and son because he wanted to hide the fact that he'd been stealing millions of dollars
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from his law firm and his clients for years this is a spreadsheet referencing each client in the amount that was
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stolen from each client 225 073.46 112 500 338 056.14 why did y'all have to pay all
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that money back because Alec had stolen it the facts are What mattered here got some Heavy Hitters on his side Decor
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Putin is the Johnny Cochran of South Carolina did he murder his wife and son no does he have any idea who did no
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there's no eyewitness there's no fingerprints there's no forensics tying him to the crime none the prosecution
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has had one major Smoking Gun in its case and it's Paul murdo's video that he took at 8 44 pm
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[Music] did you recognize any voices on that video Paul murdered Maggie murdick and
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Elle murdick you recognize Alex Boyce yes sir how will they explain that Alec was actually at the dog kennels five
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minutes before the murder when he claims that I've been sleeping were you in fact
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at the kennels at 8 44 pm on the night Maggie and Paul were murdered I was you continued lying after
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that night did you not but once I lied I continued to lie yes sir would you ever do anything to harm
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Maggie I would never hurt Mac I did not kill Maggie I did not kill Paul the state versus Richard
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Alexander Murdoch verdict guilty it doesn't matter how prominent you are if you do wrong if you break the law if
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you murder then Justice will be done in South Carolina thank you [Music] thank you
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[Music] it was a field trip to a ghost town off a country road the procession turned
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slowly up the long driveway of the imposing property this Convoy held the jury in the double murder trial of Alec
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murdal this is Mozelle the hunting lodge of the Murdoch family Alec his wife Maggie and Sons Paul and
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Buster the jury was taken to the dog kennels and the small feed room where Paul had
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been shot at close range with a shotgun a few yards away Maggie was shot several
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times with a 300 Blackout rifle neither weapon has ever been found there was a time when this estate
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reflected the vast power and Prestige of the murdal legal Dynasty now the withered grounds seem to Echo
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Alec murdaugh's steep Fall From Grace from a rich powerful lawyer to an admitted drug addict oxycodone Oxycontin
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Leaf I stole money that was not my money and convicted murderer verdict guilty what do you think of the verdict Alex
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this is where Alec Myrtle's life unraveled on June 7th 2021. this is your wife and son okay
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I knew it was really bad that night when Murdoch was interviewed by investigators he was quick to offer
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up an explanation for the murders of his wife and son my son Paul was in a boat wreck there's been a lot of negative
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publicity about that and there's been a lot of people online just really vile stuff the crush that would kill
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nineteen-year-old Mallory Beach happened about 2 20 a.m on February 24 2019. 911 where's your emergency
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we're in a boat crash on Arthur's Creek when a boat carrying six young friends smashed into a bridge Connor Cook made
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the Frantic call to 9-1-1 [Music] she's in the water she was just this wonderful
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fun-loving happy girl and everybody loved her Lynn Reavis and her niece Mallory were
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extremely close you always got a hug hello gonna hug goodbye and the last thing she told me was Sheila
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in piecing together events investigators learned earlier that night nineteen-year-old Paul murdaugh used his
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older brother Buster's ID to buy beer at this convenience store and if you look at the video footage when Paul comes out
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of the store he's holding the beer up he's celebrating after staying at a party for several
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hours the group took the murdaugh family's boat to this bar where Paul and Connor had more to drink around 1am they
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went in pounded a couple of shots Michael DeWitt is an author and editor of the Hampton County Guardian part of
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the Gannett USA Today Network somewhere around 1 30. see the video footage of them leaving the boat dock it was kind
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of a sad touching moment when you see Mallory and her boyfriend I think it's the last moment that
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anybody captured an image of her alive it was around 1 15 when they took off again on the boat
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I was just having doing donuts and just passenger Miley Altman told investigators tempers were running short
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so Connor starts driving for a little bit and then Paul like he like stops Connor and he's like no this is not a
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like let me drive I saw the bridge coming more Bridge First Responders dash cam video captured
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the Mayhem all right where's everybody else at bridge at the bottom of the bridge
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everybody was crying I'm scared shot just worried about their friend then Beaufort County deputy sheriff
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Stephen Domino was one of the first on this scene after Domino got Mallory's distraught
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boyfriend Anthony cook into his patrol car Paul Murdoch came into sight he was walking up from where the boat was
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right there away from me he actually tried to rush through me to get to Paul because I
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guess he saw him smiling Paul's smiling while Anthony's girlfriend's missing in the Water right
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well you said that's when Anthony cook definitively identified the person he said was
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driving the boat you all know helic Murdock that's his son good luck that's what he indicated that he
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couldn't be touched Mallory's body was found a week later and in the weeks after that we're just
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waiting is someone going to make an arrest is there going to be a admission of guilt or responsibility we're in a
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boat crash I think that from day one Ground Zero the effort was what can we do to get Paul out of this
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thank you foreign who do you think is responsible for Mallory's death I think Paul Murdock was
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a month after the Fatal boat crash frustrated that there was no arrest Mallory Beach's family filed a wrongful
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death suit against members of the Murdoch family which allowed them to depose the survivors about what happened
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that night Hall was allegedly acting rash and Reckless in his deposition Paul's friend Connor
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Cook said that the morning of the crash he didn't tell investigators that Paul was driving the boat because he was
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afraid and while at the hospital he says he was told by Alec murdal that he didn't need
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to tell anyone who was driving Alex reportedly went from room to room to try to communicate with the other
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boat crash passengers and get them all on the same page at the hospital several hours after the crash Paul's blood
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alcohol level was three times over the legal limit he was getting belligerent with the the
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nurses staff according to court records spin loud and troublesome but that morning and for weeks to come
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many felt that Paul murdaugh was not treated like a suspect in a crime we didn't think he was going to be charged
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why because it was taken so long we just didn't think we'd see that day nearly two months after the boat crash
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Paul was charged with causing the death of Mallory Beach he pleaded not guilty and remained free after posting Bond and
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the murdal name began to tarnish [Music] passed and on June 7 2021 as Paul murdaugh was awaiting trial in the death
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of Mallory Beach gunfire erupted on the Murdoch Family Estate [Music] at 10 06 PM a panic sounding Alec
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Murdoch called 9-1-1 saying he had just arrived home to find his wife of nearly 28 years Maggie and their son Paul shot
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is he moving at all your son I need said that she was shot but what about your son
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nobody's they're not you're the one oh he's moving Maggie's friend Caroline price called
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her godson Buster when she heard the terrible news so please tell me this isn't true and you said yes ma'am Miss
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Caroline it is and he immediately without prompt said it was premeditated and revenge they were trying to say that
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it was associated with the boat crash that someone was angry at Paul right due to the Murdoch family's close ties with
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local law enforcement the South Carolina law enforcement division known as sled the state's top investigative agency
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took over the case it was amazing to me how quick this rumor mill started Maggie's friend Shelly West heard about
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the murders from a friend I just said do you think Alec did it and he said no there were two guns on the scene but it
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actually crossed her mind that he might have done it yeah I mean yeah I mean that was my first initial reaction a lot
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of times the husband's the first suspect and Caroline says she had a strange conversation with him after Maggie and
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Paul's Funeral he talked a lot about Paul the fact that he wasn't going to get his day in court
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he wasn't going to get to clear his name murdaugh offered a 100 000 reward as rumors and speculations swirled reports
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at the time raised questions about their marriage and claimed that Maggie was Consulting with a divorce attorney
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Marion her sister asked me do you know anything about this and I said no and she said
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she never said anything to me and she tells me everything Maggie never mentioned there was any trouble in the
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marriage at a hearing a few months later I questioned the Murdoch family attorney
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dick harputlian about the Murdoch's relationship were there any problems in Maggie
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absolutely not trust me I was over two years always affectionate always courteous you just a picture of a
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domestic voice and as for the theory that the murders were in retaliation for the boat crash
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Maggie's friends say she never mentioned any threats against their family she talked about Helen Khan everybody was in
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Maine the looks and the snares and they didn't seem to feel unsafe I mean they were still carrying on with their normal
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routine day-to-day activities and things as investigators tried to figure out who
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would want Paul and Maggie Murdoch dead and why A call came into 9-1-1 that another member of the family was under
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attack somebody stopped to help me and they tried to shoot me and it's almost been a case of episodic
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television where tune in this week and we'll see what's next from Hampton County home of the murdochs
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thank you three months after the shooting deaths of Maggie and Paul Alec Murdoch again
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called 9-1-1 this time claiming he'd been shot somebody stopped to help me and let me Alex Murdoch told investigators
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he was changing a flat tire right here on this Rural Road when a person in a pickup truck passed by asked Alex if he
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was having car trouble and then shot him in the head Murdoch's conversation on the way to the hospital was captured on
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police body cam shotgun on September 6 2021 two days after being shot Alec murdaugh released this
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statement I have made a lot of decisions that I truly regret he said and announced he was leaving the law firm
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Alex Murdoch put out a statement saying he's going into rehab Alec Murdoch said he had been addicted to opioids for two
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decades it wasn't only claims of drug abuse now staining Murdoch's reputation he was also accused of stealing Millions
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from his own law firm and was asked to resign the day before he was shot Friday the law firm has a come to Jesus meeting
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with him we know you're allegedly stealing money you're out Saturday the reported shooting
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Monday Alex releases a statement saying I'm going into rehab then came the even more bizarre news
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that Myrtle had allegedly hired this man his distant cousin Curtis Smith to shoot
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him he wanted you to kill him yeah he wanted me to kill him authorities say murdaugh wanted his killing to look like
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murder so his surviving son Buster could collect a 10 million dollar life insurance payout Smith says he refused
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yeah may happen it's unclear exactly how Murdoch came to be shot why did you leave the scene I didn't know anything
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else to do Smith was charged in connection with the shooting but has not entered a plea on September 16 2021
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facing charges of insurance fraud conspiracy and filing a false police report Alec murdaugh turned himself in
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the fact that uh Murdoch sat in a chair in a jumpsuit with handcuffs is something I've never seen in my lifetime
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Alec murdahl was released on Bond and allowed to go back to rehab while Murdoch was there investigators were
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looking into all of his business dealings and the suspicious death of this woman
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Gloria Satterfield Gloria was the housekeeper for the Murdoch family for more than 20 years Ronnie Richter is an
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attorney for the Satterfield family she literally helped raise Alec murdaugh's Sons Paul and Buster
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in 2018 the 57 year old died after a fall at the murdal estate what's been reported is that she was at the house
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that day on the front steps the dog's got a little rambunctious and gave her a push and she fell down the stairs
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satterfield's death was ruled natural and no autopsy was ever performed there's nothing natural about a 57 year
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old woman falling down a flight of steps and dying from head trauma at Gloria's funeral murdal did something
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very odd says Richter he recommended Gloria's son's Philo wrongful death lawsuit against him murdahl even steered
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them toward an attorney his friend Corey Fleming a lot of trust was placed in both Alec and in Corey to do the right
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things and it really went South from the outset court documents show a 4.3 million
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dollar payout by murdaugh's insurance company but none of the money ever went to Gloria's family
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where did that money go well allegedly it went into Alex Murdock's pocket Alex murdaugh was
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charged with two felonies for his role in the Gloria Satterfield insurance fraud this time a judge ordered him to
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be held without bond as Murdoch sat in jail he was indicted on dozens more charges for defrauding
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clients out of millions of dollars and then in July of 2022 more than a year after the grizzly murders disgraced
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South Carolina attorney Alex murdaugh was indicted today in the high-profile murders of his wife and son last year
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Alec murdaugh was charged with killing his wife Maggie and Son Paul Maggie's friends were relieved that the case was
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moving forward I was kind of like now finally and maybe we're going to get some answers
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foreign on January 25th 2023 19 months after Maggie and Paul were gunned down near
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the dog kennels at their family hunting estate defendant out Murdock over there told anyone who would listen
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that he was never at those kennels prosecutor Creighton Waters began laying out the state's case against Alec
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murdaugh but the evidence is also going to show from these things that every one of us
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most of us carry around in our pocket that he was there he was at the murder scene with the two victims I could see
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Mr murdaugh down at the end of the driveway Central 717 scene has secured both gunshot wounds to the Head First
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Responders described the harrowing scene captured by their body cams the male victim was close to a small shed in the
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dog kennel on the left it was a large deal of blood that had pulled around his body turn around for me okay yes sir I
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see that okay this is your wife and son it's official that they're dead yes sir that's what it looks like
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investigators interviewed murdal in a patrol car my boy over there I could see it was
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Murdoch said he spent time with Paul earlier in the evening riding around the property after Maggie got home he dozed
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off on the couch and when he got up there was nobody around I called Maggie didn't get an answer Maggie's a dog
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lover and I knew she'd gone to the kennel I left to go to my mom's my mom's late stage Alzheimer's patient
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his visit with his ill mother would become his Alibi murdaugh told investigators when he returned around 10
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pm there was still no one home so he drove down to the dog kennels that's when he found Maggie and Paul I tried to
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turn Paul over first then I went to my wife and I I mean I could see I touched on bow okay I tried to take
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their parts on both of them when you first saw Paul you said you tried to detective Rutland interviewed
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Alex Murdo that night and told the jurors she noted despite his claim of touching the blood-soaked bodies of his
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wife and son he appeared clean how would you describe the defendant's hands when
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you saw him they were clean how would you describe his T-shirt Queens did those clothes appear to be fresh they
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did like they just come out of the laundry it could be Maggie and Paul died from multiple
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gunshot wounds Daily Beast senior National reporter polar Melendez shared the investigators findings so Paula shot
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first and he was shocked twice with a shotgun Paul was found here next to the feeding room very close by right here is
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where Maggie was found Maggie was killed with a 300 Blackout rifle and suffered five gunshot wounds a
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crime scene specialist described her final moments the shooter was right here the second shot was not as close but it
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still wasn't a long distance it was approximately here into the crown of the head
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three days after the murders building their timeline investigators talked to Alec murdal again we sat down we ate
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supper and we hung around the house for a little while uh I know that Maggie went to the kennels
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um I don't know exactly where Paul went but he left the house too I stayed in the house and I actually fell asleep on
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the couch the last time that you saw Paul and Maggie's when y'all were eating supper
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yes sir the murdals were Avid hunters and had more than 25 weapons on the property I
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saw one over here during a search one to your right sled agents found spent shell
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casings and ammunition that matched the bullets that killed Maggie and Paul but the
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murder weapons were never found Maggie's cell phone was also missing the day after the murders investigators
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found it here on the side of the road half a mile from the property sled analyzed the data from Alex Maggie and
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Paul's cell phones at 7 56 PM Paul sent this Snapchat video of his dad to a friend Paul is heard
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laughing in the background so around 8 30 Paul's phone starts moving towards the dog kennels he also
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calling and texting two friends then responding to Snapchats until about 8 40 when he gets on a four minute phone call
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with his friend Rogan Gibson Rogan Gibson told investigators their phone call was about his dog who was staying
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at the kennels Rogan thought he heard Alec in the background that immediately sets a red flag for law enforcement
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because that totally messes up Alex timeline and how could he be at the dog kennels at 8 40 when he claims he was
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sleeping two months after the murders agents interviewed Alec murdaugh again this
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time at a sled office they asked him if he went down to the kennels that night I have no idea
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in November of 2022 there was a breakthrough in the investigation get it get back agent showed Rogan a
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video of his dog cash that they had found on Paul's phone Paul had shot it at 8 44 PM minutes before he was killed
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it's a chicken come here and what voices did you hear Paul's Miss Maggie Miss Taylor
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and how sure are you now positive 100 that's correct the prosecutor says Alec is heard saying
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come here Bubba calling the family dog this is a huge piece of testimony because it places Alec in the kennels
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roughly five minutes before prosecutors say Maggie and Paul were murdered authorities believed Maggie and Paul
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were shot around 8 49 PM when their phone screens were locked and never opened again the prosecutor asked
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several other Witnesses if they recognized murdal's voice on that video and I recognize Ellen
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who do you recognize Alec did you recognize on that video Alex muradol and every
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single witness has said with 100 certainty that that's Alec in the background of that video and it also
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completely shatters his Alibi Alec murdaugh's car and cell phone data showed he drove to his mom's house
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shortly after 9 pm between then and until he returned and dialed 9-1-1 at 10 06 pm he made 10 calls to family and
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friends including five to Maggie prosecutor is basically allege that after killing Paula Maggie I took steps
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to cover up and show that he is talking to all these people so how could he murder his his wife and son
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as to the motive the state had a theory that a perfect storm was gathering for Alec murdal Alec was scared about
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information coming out that he had been stealing money from his clients in his Law Firm for years
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on the day of the murders murdahl was confronted by his firm about missing legal fees of almost eight hundred
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thousand dollars also that week he was due in court for a hearing on the boat crash civil case
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murdaugh was being sued for 10 million dollars by Mallory Beach's family the prosecution is alleging that in order to
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dissuade further questions about his financial crimes and Garner Symphony from the community and his Law Firm he
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killed his wife and son it's the actions of a desperate man uh the state would call Jeannie
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secondary after the judge ruled murdal's alleged Financial schemes could be brought in the state called The Firm CFO
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Genie seckinger was anybody at all concerned about those missing fees after those murders happened we weren't
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because we were concerned about La we weren't going to go in there and harass him about money
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what his family had been killed Mr Tinsley the beach family's attorney Mark Tinsley
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also testified and told the jurors in the wake of the murders the civil case against Alec Murdoch would have gone
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away if Alec is the victim of a vigilante nobody's gonna hold him accountable the case would be over as
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the state rested its case Alec murdaugh made the risky decision to take the stand you lied to Maggie didn't you
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I did a lot of Maggie [Music] have you made a decision as to whether you're going to testify I am going to
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testify I want to testify against his attorney's advice Alec murdal decided to take the stand in his
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own defense he swear affirmed that the testimony you give today will be the truth the whole truth and nothing but
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the truth yes ma'am under questioning by attorney Jim Griffin murdahl is hoping the jury will look past his lies and
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believe that now he's telling them the truth did you kill Maggie no I did not kill Maggie I did not kill
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Paul I would never hurt Maggie and I would never hurt Paul ever under any circumstances after all the
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testimony identifying him on that kennel video murdal is forced to admit he was with
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his wife and son minutes before prosecutors say they were gunned down were you in fact at the kennels at 8 44
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pm on the night Maggie and Paul were murdered I was continued lying after that night did you not but once I lied I
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continued to lie yes sir why oh what a tangled web we weave but once I told the LIE
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I mean I told my family I had to keep in mind I went to Murdoch claims he'd been
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compelled to lie because of an opioid addiction he battled for 20 years spending tens of thousands of dollars a
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week and taking up to 60 or more pills per day as my addiction evolved over time
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I would get any situations or circumstances where I would get paranoid thinking but he dismisses the
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prosecution's theory of mounting pressure from his addiction and alleged Financial crimes leading up to the
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murders Mr murdick on June the 7th did you believe that your financial House of Cards was about to crumble absolutely
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not Mr murdai I'll start with a few things I think we can agree during a six-hour cross-examination over two days
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prosecutor Creighton Waters grills Murdoch and you stole all of the money about his long history of lying to his
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financial victims and Mr Waters just to try to get through this quicker I admit I know you want to get through
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it quicker but we're not so answer the question please what what I what I admit is that I misled them I did wrong and
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that I stole their money Waters contend it was only because he'd been caught in his lie about being at the kennels that
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Murdoch finally came clean the reality is you like you've done so many times over the course of your life had to back
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up and make a new story that kind of fit with the facts that can't be denied isn't that true sir no sir that's not
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true Waters then tries to box him into his new timeline on the night of the murders
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zeroing in on four minutes between 902 and 906 when his phone logged 283 steps right before he left to visit his mom
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that's far more steps in a shorter time period than than any time prior as you've seen from the testimony in this
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case so what were you so busy doing going to the bathroom no I don't I don't think that I have to get on a treadmill
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in the bathroom I didn't get on the treadmill reasserts his theory of the murders did
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I believe that boat wreck is the reason why Papa Maggie were killed because I can tell you for a fact
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that the person or people who did what I saw on June the 7th they hated Paul murdick
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and they had anger in their heart throughout the trial the defense makes the case that Alec murdaugh was a
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devoted family man his son Buster describes a dad who'd coached his little league teams and was now stricken with
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grief I mean he was destroyed it was heartbroken I walked in the door and saw him and
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um gave him a hug and just just broken down the defense calls Tim palmbot to the stand please the defense
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calls a crime scene analyst who based on blood spatter position of shots fired and the fact that two different guns
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were used says there was more than one shooter in my opinion is the totality of the evidence is more suggestive of a
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two-shooter scenario the prosecution disagrees you know this is Alec the prosecutor of the lawyer and he's
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thinking through this he's thought through this he's going to use two guns because it's going to confuse people
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that perhaps there are two Shooters but in his closing to the jury Waters argues
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that all the evidence points to Alec murdahl and sibling from that first shot at close range shot with no indication
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that he detected a threat from the person who fired that weapon and why because it was him
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Maggie sees what happens that she comes running over there she's running to her baby she got mowed down
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by the only person that we have conclusive proof was at that scene just minutes before
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and who lied about that very fact and he describes how Murdoch could have cleaned
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up at the kennels afterwards it wouldn't take long strip down and watch yourself off
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getting that cart and head back to the house here we are with a Mr Clean Theory he takes a hose and washes himself off
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he gets in a golf cart butt naked I guess and drives to the house defense attorney
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Jim Griffin pushes back on the prosecutions theory he would have to be a magician to make all that evidence
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disappear the shooter's covered in blood the Shooter's Gun is covered in blood Common Sense thing here is there were
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two shoots instead said Griffin investigators zeroed in on murdaugh to the exclusion of other suspects because
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he was an easy target long-time drug problem there's Financial issues misconduct or
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exposed easy easy Target the evidence is Crystal Clear he started fabricating evidence against Allen
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Griffin tells the jury sled also presented false evidence to the grand jury when seeking an indictment against
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murdaugh they came up with a report that says Alex teacher had high velocity blood spatter on
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the Lead Sled agent testified he had not received an email update that further testing had shown there was no blood I
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did not see that report I was not made aware of its existence sled failed miserably in investigating this case
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and had they done a competent job that Alec would have been excluded a year ago then he addresses the single
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most problematic piece of evidence for the defense really we're back to the law because that's all they have in this
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case he lied because he had a closet full of skeletons but when he didn't lie when he didn't lie
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for is because he was covering up the fact that he killed Maggie and Paul Allen would not have killed the people
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he loved the most in the world this defendant has fooled everyone everyone and he fooled Maggie and Paul too
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and they paid for it with their lives don't let him fool you too after hearing from 75 Witnesses in more
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than five weeks the jury deliberates for just under three hours before returning
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with a verdict to State versus Richard Alexander Murdoch murdahl is found guilty of murdering his wife and son
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guilty verdict you understand there is a verdict in the double murder trial at sentencing the next day judge Clifton
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Newman gives murdaugh one last chance to appeal to the court I respect this court
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but I'm innocent unmoved judge Newman sentences him to two consecutive life terms in prison and I know you have to
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see Paul and Maggie during the night times when you're attempting to go to sleep I'm sure they come and visit you
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I can't stop thinking about the fact that it is a video on Paul's own phone that really was critical in this case
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well I think it is ironic the murder case the victims can't testify but in many ways they do
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oftentimes they leave something behind that lets you know what happened to him and in this case it was Paul's video
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Bobcats does Paul testifying from the grave [Music] I'm Aaron Moriarty and this is my life
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