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foreign [Music] [Music] they go to the local Diner that have their breakfast lunch or
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dinner [Music] and they shop at the General Store [Music] you have that feeling of safety
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keep your doors unlocked [Music] on November 24th 1989 Mandy stavic went out running with her dog
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[Music] the dog had returned but she hadn't [Music] and when she didn't come back I panicked
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[Music] there was a massive hunt for her everybody was out looking it was three days later when we found
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her this is the South Fork of the Nooksack River she was just floating lately the only thing I could see were her
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tennis shoes and socks when I rolled her over it was kind of a real shock to me because she looked like my daughter
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foreign oh you're so strong oh yeah right you can't be strong through something like that and just
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rips you to pieces [Music] oh we were in shock people were crying and they were um
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oh there was a killer out there somewhere the question is was this person going to
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strike again yeah so much unknown [Music] for 25 years we had no viable suspects
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in this case you've got to keep working keep persistent keep going Mandy's dead but this case was not going
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to die no I absolutely did not think it would ever get solved thank you amazingly enough it was two women
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talking in a water park they gave us the break in this case the moms brought her name up I just kind
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of turned to merrily and said well I am sure I know who killed her and turned to
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her and I said oh I do too [Music] thank you foreign [Music] [Music] 27th 1989 where are we right now
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we're Upstream from where I recovered her it's a solemn place for you isn't it it
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is really does back then detective Ron Peterson led the search team for Mandy stavic moving upriver in his Zodiac boat
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we came around the corner and we got out of the main river and into the little side Channel and I could see pink
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something pink it was Mandy wearing only her running shoes when you lifted her out of the water as
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a father did you say anything to her assistant you're the first person that asked that
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okay I said I got you Pearson and so many others in the small community of Acme Washington are still
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emotional even 30 years later what was lost for you in this community with the death of Mandy stavic a sense
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of Innocence I think more than anything Jim Freeman was Mandy's high school basketball coach and gave the eulogy at
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her memorial service attended by nearly a thousand people you see her smiling back at you
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right at your soul with eyes that say I love life he had mentored her off the court as
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well becoming a father figure after Mandy's parents divorced Mandy expressed her admiration for him in this card
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for Mr Freeman the one person who is inspired and influenced me more than anyone
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thank you you're the greatest most sincerely Mandy static class of 89. number 13.
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basketball player cheerleader top student once an aspiring airline pilot Mandy stavic truly stood out says her
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mother Mary she wanted to do everything she wanted to be very good to the best at everything she did
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and she was Mandy's older sister Molly Brighton Mandy she was larger than life she
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helped us a lot in the short time that she was here all that promise came to an abrupt end
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in 1989 when the college freshman came home from Central Washington University for Thanksgiving the day after the big
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holiday meal at her house Mandy set out on the last jog of her life with her German Shepherd Kyra
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how many times you've driven this road oh geez probably probably close to 100 over the over the 30 years of working on
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the case detective Kevin Bowie who was just a rookie Deputy back then has pieced together Mandy's route from the
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few people who briefly saw her that day she always started from the house here and then ran down westbound toward the
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west side of the Strand Road the last person to see Mandy alive was a man in a pickup truck who pulled up
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right here Mandy ran right in front of him heading in that direction to go around the bend to her home about an
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eighth of a mile from here I would say to that wooded area ahead of us is where I believe she was abducted
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Bowie says her assailant had to be in a vehicle Mandy was too faster runner to catch on
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foot how do you think she was abducted by weapon that's what they used to gain the
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controller I believe it was a gun and what points the gun at her and says get him yeah points a gun at her get in at
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that point she's compliant investigators believe the attacker had kicked the dog
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into a ditch before abducting Mandy he then sexually assaulted her about three and a half miles away from where she was
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jogging afterward she tried to flee a scenario suggested by the scratches on her arms and legs I immediately went oh
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my God she was running away running through the blackberries blackberry bushes big thorns
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and that's what I thought she was running away from whoever had her I believe whoever was chasing her caught
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her and hit her in the head knocking her out and then placed her in the river to
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make sure she drowned it occurred to Ron Peterson that Mandy's body May hold other important evidence
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he had just recently been trained by the FBI on recovering DNA and based on the position that she was in the water he
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knew he had to get her out to preserve it that was the biggest fear of mine is how to get her out without disturbing it
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his training paid off so when they did the autopsy they were able to recover male DNA from Mandy the male DNA was
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semen suggesting a sexual attack what happened in terms of the investigation from there it was you know you always
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look for that person that's strange or odd that doesn't quite fit into the community
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tips poured in and deputies check them out this is a standard Road where tsuchi was
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observed David Suchi was a local Drifter seen in the area that day Bowie says they got a
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warrant and got his DNA and he was ruled out deputies interviewed various Persons of
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Interest including Mandy's boyfriend Rick Zender they also looked at him just to rule him out
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all dead ends in all some 30 local men gave DNA samples none matched the case went cold and the murder hung like a
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dark cloud over this community for the next two decades it was like an assault on all of us then almost 25 years later
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a new suspect emerged and he had lived right in Mandy's Neighborhood his name wasn't even on the radar
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foreign [Music] just an ordinary person I don't know how I managed to have that child
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Mary stavic spent years haunted by the murder of her daughter Mandy and the lack of progress in the case
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and I just really didn't have any hope that became more ingredient in me as the years went on
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but detective Kevin Bowie same high school as Mandy had never given up by 2009 he was the lead investigator on
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this unsolved case we needed some answers we needed to get to the bottom of it he began scouring the case File
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pouring over old leads and old suspects and I started going through who's been interviewed who's been talked to
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Bowie noticed that a local drug dealer named John Wisniewski had been questioned because he told people he
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might know who murdered Mandy although his DNA did not match the crime scene Bowie still wanted to talk to him again
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and in 2010 he traveled all the way to Cambodia where Wisniewski now lives to question him
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what did your gut tell you about this man I thought he was a good liar just kept
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reiterating I don't know who did this you weren't believing him though I didn't believe him but a feeling wasn't
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evidence so it's another dead end yes but then three years later the Sheriff's Office got a tip that sent them in a New
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Direction coming from of all places a pair of moms chatting at a water park it was June 2013.
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where were you guys when you had this conversation sitting on the grass right over there
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Heather Backstrom and merrily Anderson had both gone to Mount Baker High and you're just watching your kids coming
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down the water slides and things out of the blue one of the other mothers brought up the name Mandy stavic both
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Heather and Marilee who barely knew each other held long suspicions about the same man Marilee had never told anyone
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in law enforcement of her suspicions I really wasn't ready because we are in a small town and to accuse someone of
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something that we don't know for sure is a little scary Heather also never discussed her concerns with anyone in
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the area no friend or family in the community that I lived in because of the weight of that but talking to each other
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here in this water park decades later they finally felt compelled to say his name out loud and I just said that I
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knew that it was Tim that it was Tim Bass Timothy bass had gone to Mount Baker High too
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why did you say Tim Bass I thought it was Tim best because of the experiences that I had had with him in
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the past disturbing experience very disturbing yes as it turns out both women had experienced creepy run-ins
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with him and began exchanging stories I'm probably 15 and he was in his 20s it was after a softball game in the
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summer of 1989 a few months before Mandy's murder we decided a bunch of us to go to Dairy Queen she says they all
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piled into a friend's truck including Tim bass who was sitting next to her he would talk about my eyes that my eyes
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were beautiful then he took like a pen out of the cup holder and would like start rubbing it
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along my knees because I was wearing cut off sweatpants you must have been scared
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you're 15 years old yeah I was very nervous hearing Heather's story merrily told her
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oh it was far more chilly in July 1991 she was at home one night with her young son when she heard a
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knock on the door so I opened the door and there's Tim best at the door and he asks if he can use
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the phone because he had been hunting all day and wanted to use the phone to call his wife
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when she handed him the phone he started dialing but something wasn't right I hear the the beep beep beep we're
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sorry when you call on the phone's disconnected so I thought okay something's up then she says things got
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scary so then he walks through the kitchen and back to my bedroom he said that he used
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to drive by our house and that he had always been in love with me and wanted to make love to me
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right then and there yes Marilee says she demanded that Tim leave but he refused and what are you feeling
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at this moment uh terrified eventually after she threatened to call the police Tim left
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later the two women now realized they had to speak up merrily contacted another Mount Baker High graduate
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detective Ken Gates she had a gut feeling that Tim bass was responsible for killing Mandy where did
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Tim Bass Live he lived right in this house right here a home less than two miles from Mandy's
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house right along her running route back in 1989 1990 did they go to the bass household and question people there
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they looked at him like no it wouldn't be this family because they're well liked in the community
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and so I think it was just overlooked Tim bass along with his brother and father had never been asked to give a
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DNA sample and for the past 25 years Tim had been living a quiet life in a nearby
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community married with three children and driving a delivery truck for a bakery any criminal record anything that
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would have call attention to Tim bass no he kept to himself and for the most part
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worked and came home but now police decided to pay Tim a visit at home very non-threatening in your approach correct
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when asked about Mandy Bass pretended he didn't even remember her at least not at
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first so he just looked up and was like Mandy Mandy Mandy um oh yeah she was a girl that they found
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on the river it was kind of like okay I think we're being played here he who could who could forget Mandy stavic
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police asked bass for a saliva sample to get his DNA and at that point he goes well
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um I don't want to give my DNA I watch those crime shows I see how many people go to prison because they've given DNA
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so they tried a new plan at this point we decided we need to get a surveillance team on him and follow him on his route
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they followed Tim Bass All Night Long on his Bakery delivery route police were hoping bass would throw away
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an item with DNA on it but no luck the investigation stalled yet again until police received an unexpected helping
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hand I wasn't really going to take no for an answer I'm gonna find something I'm gonna get you something
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oh 24 long years had passed without an arrest and police finally had a prime suspect back in 1989 Tim bass lived down
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the road from Mandy stavic and she often jogged past his house on her regular running route which is how he fixated on
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her police believe if Tim bass sitting in his home was looking out the window could he have seen Mandy running by
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easily investigators knew Mandy didn't jog by the bass house the day she disappeared but Tim was in their
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crosshairs so they wanted to know more about him they got some background from his
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younger brother Tom as kids they piled around together like most Brothers very competitive we had a lot of fun together
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playing you know different sports Tim had always been a loner but as a teenager he began to reveal deeper
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issues social interactions never really been natural to him Tom remembers a harrowing night after a high school
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girlfriend had broken up with Tim he was on the phone with her in his bedroom and
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he apparently had a pistol with him at some point said I'm gonna kill myself he actually ended up firing the gun
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Tim had fired into the air from that night on Tom says people close to Tim noticed a change in him
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it just the disgust the disrespect towards women Robin did you ever see this oh yes
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bobbin is Tom's wife I think that he really thinks that women are inferior to him
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Tim got married young at 22 just six weeks after Mandy's murder he married another Mount Baker graduate Gina Malone
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she says it was hardly a fairy tale romance I married him basically to get away from
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home Gina says throughout their nearly 30-year marriage Tim was a controlling and emotionally abusive husband I felt
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like his servant go get me a drink go get make me food I personally witnessed him tell Gina to shut up you know eight
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million times it didn't feel like a marriage I felt like I went into a prison actually
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but Gina stuck with Tim and had three children with him why did you stay with him uh I was scared and I did leave I
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actually I got a restraining order and left for two months at that point I had started divorce proceedings and he's
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like I'm gonna lie to the judge and get the kids taken away from you anything with my kids
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I'm just like okay I'm gonna do whatever I have to do to not lose my kids in Tim
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bass detectives believed they had their killer but they wanted to cast a wider net of potential suspects to be sure
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they were on the right path we developed this list we call it a DNA sweep investigators got DNA from three dozen
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more men in the area but Tim bass wouldn't cooperate so cops called the bakery where Tim worked and spoke with
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his boss Kim Wagner the Tim bass I knew he was different I don't know he was weird how is he
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weird though you just never knew what Tim was going to be at work that day the smallest thing would anger him
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and so you tend to kind of stay away from people like that and Kim says she experienced Tim's low regard for women
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he never called me Kim he always called me a woman woman and um which you know whatever
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as Kim chatted with investigators she realized they were looking at the Mandy stavic murder and figured out what they
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were really after Kim said well you guys want DNA don't you and I said well yes and she says I can
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get it for you at this point I'm thinking I'm working with somebody that potentially did this to Mandy and I
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gotta know she kept an eye on Tim day after day watching if he discarded anything that
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might have his saliva on it you'd empty the garbage so it would be empty yeah in
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case he dropped a cup or a bottle yeah well a cup yeah it took three long months and then
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finally she saw him throw away a plastic cup and later a Coke can and I just stood there and went
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it's game time I'm like there's a jackpot and so this time my heart was like oh I was I was dying because
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there's a lot of people around so I grabbed it and then I was like I threw it in my desk drawer and then she gave
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it to police my gut said it was him my heart said it wasn't because I just didn't really want to
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think that we were all betrayed so about three months later we got the results from the state crime lab and
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Katie from the crime lab says Kevin we've got a match you hear those words what was that
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moment like you hear them but you're not sure you're you're it's almost like I'm
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dreaming I'm gonna wake up at any moment in time I was just like this is the biggest thing that's ever happened to me
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a lot of Tears DNA match they paid another visit to Tim as he was leaving work I'm questioning my life did you have any
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relationship with her no so you didn't even kiss her or anything no never then why would your DNA be inside her he went
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from denial to well how did you get my DNA what are you talking about right after that conversation on December 12
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2017 28 years after Mandy had been found dead police arrested 50-year-old Tim bass in
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the bakery parking lot they charged him with kidnapping rape and murder as my partner's cuffing them up I say
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you're under arrest for the murder of Mandy stavic and he says we've got him that's all he
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says we've got him and he says who I really I really never dreamed I really never dreamed it Mandy's sister Molly
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was overwhelmed too isn't what a birthday present detective Bowie called Kim Wagner with
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the news her first thought was about Mandy and I asked if her family knew what'd he say
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that they knew and so that's that's why I did it I just never forgot about Mandy
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but it's a big leap between thinking you have your man and convicting him in a court of law were you trying to get me
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to admit to something I didn't do is that what you're trying to do right now Tim says he's innocent and that he had a
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secret that explains everything he said I just want to let you know I slept with
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Mandy I was like what to what lengths would you go to get someone's DNA hear more from Kim Wagner
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on Facebook at 48 hours for prosecutor Dave mceachron it's been a long road to Justice she was such a
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good kid and it just shouldn't have happened it just shouldn't have happened at all
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Akron was 44 when Mandy stavic was murdered and now at 73 ladies and gentlemen the
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jury he's come out of retirement and insisted he not be paid as he leads the prosecution team in this deeply personal
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case in your heart as well as in your head you wanted to finish that you bet all right
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foreign Years Of Heartache fear and frustration the trial of Mandy's accused killer
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finally begins the state's case is simple the defendant's DNA was inside her and we know that she was kidnapped
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she was raped and then she was killed case closed no Tim bass is not guilty says defense attorney Stephen Jackson he
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didn't kidnap anyone he didn't rape anyone he certainly didn't kill anyone foreign
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floats a theory to jurors that if true would be shocking the suggestion that Tim bass and Mandy stavic had consensual
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sex in the hours before her murder there were no signs of a struggle evidence of
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sexual contact is not evidence of rape everything I've said is the truth in this interrogation after his arrest bass
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claimed he had been having a secret affair with Mandy it was more of a friendship type thing we just talked
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and uh then it just got grew into more more of a physical thing and we didn't even really do it that much so it
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was more kissing and stuff DNA can only tell you that there was contact starkfallis is one of bass's defense
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attorneys Mandy had come home for Thanksgiving break are you saying that when she came home they met somewhere
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and had intimacy that's exactly what I'm saying and what do you say to those who
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say prove it that no one saw the two of them together there are no telephone calls made between the two of them first
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of all I don't have to prove it the burden of proof is on the state of Washington not on the defense
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remember when Tim bass was first questioned in 2013 he said he barely remembered who Mandy was now they were
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lovers why would his story evolve like that in your opinion because he's making it up he's trying to cover himself
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good afternoon Ms Wagner come on step right up here if you would testifying for the prosecution is the woman who
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helped retrieve the DNA evidence that linked bass to the crime scene terrified but Kim Wagner knew she had
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one more job to do if Tim was potentially involved in that crime I wanted to do the right thing for Mandy
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but the defense is hoping science can support bass's account they call Dr Elizabeth Johnson a forensic expert to
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the stand she says the semen could have been deposited up to two days before Mandy's
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death I would say most consistent is ours to days and probably within up to 48 Hours the prosecution
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experts the original medical examiner from 30 years ago Dr Gary goldfogle disagrees he says various indicators say
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it was much sooner she was raped and then was killed and deposited in the river and drowned in the river would
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your findings be consistent in all regards with that hypothetical yes they would
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now it was time for a woman to testify who bass knew very well please have a seat you've been sworn his
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now ex-wife Gina she divorced him after his arrest and his claims about his affair with Mandy I was so nervous and I
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was shaking I don't even want to see his face Gina testifies that she witnessed him ask his mother to lie for him to
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point the finger at his own dad he's asked her can we say Dad did it bash's father had
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died more than a decade earlier she put her hands over her face and like this and and pause for a minute and
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then said no Tim bass's trial was turning into a family reunion from Hell his brother Tom
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took the stand as you're about to go take the stand what's what's going through your mind did you sleep the
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night before very little it was it was agonizing as hard as it was I I knew I had to do it I'd like to direct
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your attention to February 24 2015. Tom recounted that when Tim was under investigation he told Tom he had
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slept with Mandy decades ago and then asked Tom to tell police he had also slept with her I guess to make it look
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like she got around that would be my only you know that's probably why he said that and then he asked me again
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he said you believe me right but I was I didn't know what to say and Tom describes another damning incident
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after Tim was arrested he said that the cops are lying everyone's out to get him he said I need
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a strong Alibi or I'm going to prison he said mom maybe you can say that we were Christmas shopping
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Tom do what you can despite that testimony defense attorney shashana page has an explanation for his behavior even
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innocent people when they're under that great weight of Suspicion can do things that can be interpreted as well only a
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guilty person would do this as the nine-day trial wraps up both sides make their final appeal to the jury it's easy
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to make the assumption that this pretty young woman would never have anything to
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do with Mr Bass but this is Mr Bass Circa the late 80s just because somebody hadn't seen them together doesn't mean
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that they hadn't been together at some point this is an investigation based on the faulty assumption that this is a
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sexual assault and it may well not have been a sexual assault this was not a situation where there was consensual sex
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there was no contact between these people she was abducted she was raped and she was killed hold him accountable
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the DNA was at the heart of Tim bass's trial it would now be at the heart of the jury's deliberation one of them said
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teenage girls can sneak out at night maybe there was a secret relationship issue the burdens
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[Music] ambassad's defense chat now with the 48 Hours team on Facebook and Twitter
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30 years of wondering two weeks of trial five hours of deliberations I was terrified as the jury in the Mandy
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stavic case deliberated the hours felt like an eternity I was every chair please do the right thing to
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the right thing do the right thing they have to have a hundred percent agreement
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if one person doesn't agree they've got a hung jury and they have to start all over again and I was praying that that
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would not happen although no one testified to ever seeing Tim and Mandy together juror Ed Beeman
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says they had a lot to discuss when we go in and deliberate we had to turn in to be investigators and attorneys too
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and we went through everything we had posters on the wall and maps and we went through everything just like the
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attorneys did juror jay van mursbergen maybe a quarter of the people tied up on whether or not there might be
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reasonable doubt deliberations lasted a little over a day Madam clerk issue the verdicts
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29 years and six months to the day had passed since Mandy stavic was killed would her family and friends finally get
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Justice we the jury find the defendant Timothy Forrest bass guilty guilty foreign of murder rape and kidnapping it
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was such a relief it was such a relief for you that moment when you're seeing the family Embrace
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and the tears did you think this is what Justice looks like yeah at that point I
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thought this is why we do what we do the harm at this cost is incalculable he has finally received Justice and and
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to me it can't be enough time he should never get out later it was time for sentencing my
00:37:01
family will never be healed never be normal Mary and Molly were too emotional to speak so Molly's husband Mike
00:37:09
Brighton spoke for them Timothy Forest bass must never be allowed to walk the earth as a free
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person never ever the defendant's mother would like to address the court then it was the bass
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family's turn to speak Tim's mom Sandra bass insisted that her son never tried to blame his father for Mandy's death
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is totally false I do know my son is not guilty of this crime then if you would like the opportunity now is the time I
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will convicted murderer Tim bass whose DNA had sealed his fate spoke in court for
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the first time I would first like to say that I'm 100 innocent of this crime furthermore I don't believe I received a
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fair trial saying that though the better man in me says I should say very little today okay give this day to
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the Staffing family on swayed the judge sentence passed to the maximum sentence nearly 27 years
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he couldn't get life because prosecutors did not charge him with premeditated murder they were not sure they could
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convict him of that charge for 30 years you have lived free from the responsibility for your acts but
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that life has been a lie and tragically it has caught your family your mother your brother your ex-wife and your
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children in its web Tim says he's an innocent man what do you say guilty as hell
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I lived in prison for 28 years with him and now it's his turn for Mary who once thought she'd never
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see Justice bass's sentence gave her some salts definitely closure I feel after all they've got the guy that did
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it he'll spend enough years in jail so if he ever does get out his life will be practically over
00:39:12
Tom Bass now wonders if his brother considered other killings possibly even Heather or Marilee
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I think potentially more could have been his next victims you sometimes think we're lucky to be
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alive yep Heather and Merril Lee are proud of their roles in putting Tim bass away
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in the end three women's word or experiences are what took him down and I love that
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Kim Wagner part of that Trio of women credits Mandy's hometown acne it really took a village it took a
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whole Community the Sheriff's Office never gave up on Mandy [Music] we got the right guy
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sorry [Music] I guess the community could feel safe and and be whole again [Music]
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and I'd hoped at that point the family could heal in some ways you could be whole again
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too right yeah foreign [Music] [Music] Floyd's death has inspired a movement we are witnessing it right now where do
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things go for you now we have to talk to people listen why is it important to you
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guys to come out if we just stayed home nothing would change what do you hope no
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one comes from this this is what's coming from me the change is here CBS News original reporting