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[Music] this is nocknock gun salt murders of Betty Jones and Catherine Creek ler my
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name is Jason B Jones that was ten years old the phone rang something was wrong very wrong that call was about my
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grandmother she was dead and not just dead but murdered I will never forget that night because it was September 3rd
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1990 was the night that I was introduced to evil it was a very unusual crime for
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our community and of course the very brutal crime it would take me 27 years to finally get up the courage to ask all
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the questions about that night I'm kind of freaking out a little bit not gonna lie it was important for me to see where
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it happened as I was documenting this and trying to understand it was two girls hanging out watching TV
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getting ready to sleep being here I feel like I understand how scary that would have been if the knock on a door Betty
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goes and answered the door and the guy comes in and immediately Katherine starts hearing screaming and know
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something is wrong with Betty and then he attacks Betty and then he kills her he immediately went toward Katherine
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raped her strangled her thought he killed her I could hardly wrap my head around it
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the fact that there was somebody that had actually committed a murder and then to just rape my grandmother so
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nonchalantly you know and just leave her to die I miss her [Music] what was done in that house was as bad
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as anything Jack Tripper advocated standing in front of this house today 28 years later what's it like for you
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knowing that you still don't have your man it's frustrating is no doubt about it I always assumed that Betty and
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Katherine's case was cold and dormant what I learned is that sergeant Lott is no ordinary police officer constantly
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getting on the internet and looking at signs pair-bond what they do is they take the DNA and they developed a DNA
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facial recognition of the killer we're able to give them a prediction of what that person looked like so it's
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essentially a genetic witness you remember the moment when the picture revealed itself on your computer screen
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it's like now I know what you look like I'm gonna get you even as a child I learned what the monsters fear whether
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imaginary or real monsters today still fear the light when we started this podcast I thought
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that real answers would be years or decades off never in a million years did I think that we would get answers so
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quickly [Music]