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foreign [Music] there is good and there is evil and that night the evil came to play
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we got a good one here we got a call about the woman being underwater for a minute or two don't close nothing
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her boyfriend said he walked out in the woods but when you come back when she was popped up in the hot tub and she was
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not breathing tell me her name again Marianne Shuffle Marianne last name Shockley we get out
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here and she got a big old gash on her head I'm telling you the hair on the back of
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my necks and something ain't right with this what's your name Marianne's boyfriend I talked to her
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every morning and every night she was my hero because she was so intelligent my name is Dr Marion
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chocolate I'm an Outreach entomologist and I'm the director of the insect Zoo she was on The Cutting Edge of the
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industry I absolutely looked up to her as my big sister I wanted to be her real rope it all and go from there I
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want you to Now take me to May 11th 2019. okay take me through the day what happens well
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they went bar hopping they had a couple mimosas and then we have a couple of shots and then they went out to the
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Country Club and had drinks there I'm Penny dearman this is blood town I created the podcast about the Marianne
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chocolate case they were having a really fun night at this point how many drinks do you think
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you've had oh wow there was some communication about does somebody have a pool Marcus knew that
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his friend Clark heindel had a pool so can I get your name please or and they went over there at some point
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they like to have a few drinks they brought some beer with them Marcus and Marianne are in the hot tub
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and they're enjoying themselves what the hell happened after that Marcus says that he went into the woods
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to gather some firewood as I dropped the wood off at the fireplace I could see Marianne
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slumped down he called out her name and she did not respond we started doing CPR
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she was pronounced dead at the scene [Music] my mother called me and she said Marianne's gone I just fell to the
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ground and I just was saying no Mama no no and she was like she's she's drowned in some hot tub Marianne is not stupid
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she would not drown in a hot tub something funny with this one buddy it ain't adding up
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I just knew that Marcus had killed her I'm Carson Lillard I'm Marcus his son he's angry and he's violent
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Marcus is in a police car at this point you're not under arrest or anything right now okay where is Clark he went
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into his house and he shot himself to death [Music] the very first thought was he had to
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have had something to do with this why would it killed himself there's something he's hiding
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I don't believe anything that comes out of his mouth foreign [Music] foreign [Music]
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it was nearing 3 A.M on Mother's Day May 12 2019. Baldwin County Sheriff deputies stormed
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into Clark heindel's house and found he'd killed himself with a shotgun we're gonna need to get that gun away from his
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hands still on it [Music] only moments earlier Clark had called 9-1-1 asking paramedics to come to his
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home in Milledgeville Georgia and the scene was captured on police body cams Clark said a friend of his college
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professor Marianne Shockley had seemingly drowned in his hot tub we got a treat just like a crime scene within
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hours Marianne's death was being investigated as a homicide and authorities say they had two suspects
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her boyfriend Marcus Lillard who was being held for questioning and Clark a longtime resident of Millageville I
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think a lot of people do think that because Clark heindel killed himself he had some kind of involvement
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today we're recording on location in Milledgeville this is season two Penny dearman investigated the case on her
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podcast I'm doing this podcast because I need to know what happened to her as it turns out Penny had previously met
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Marcus I met Marcus when I purchased my truck at the time Marcus was working as a car and truck finance manager and what
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was your impression during that transaction he was very nice he was very personable
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making jokes making me feel very comfortable very at ease and I liked him right away
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pretty much everyone agrees that Marcus who was married and divorced twice was a
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charmer but as Penny later learned that charm came with a reputation he was definitely known as a ladies man
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everyone regardless of what they thought of him knew that about him somehow God continued to send women my way that were
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way too good for me and I would date him and I'd take them for granted one right
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after another it was it was a steady pattern he's the most charismatic person I've
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ever met I mean he's just got this kind of aura about him that sucks people in Carson is Marcus's 23 year old
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son anywhere he wanted to go there was a woman there that he could shack up with
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and stay with and eventually Marianne also fell under his spell the two had met in the late
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90s when they were students at Georgia College in Millageville and working at the same local restaurant was there a
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spark in that moment no I was a kid man I was probably 17 and she would have been uh 20 you know I was
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a little you know a little little wormy guy I thought he was fine I mean nothing
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stood out to me to be irregular about him Ayla Crippen is Marianne's younger sister she went to the same College as
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Marianne and Marcus dated one of my best friends and roommates at the time um they didn't date for very long she
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said she got a weird vibe from him Marcus admits drugs got in the way of his college education and he dropped out
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I just thought life was a party and I treated as such I never really thought about him again until Marion started
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dating him you know two decades later the year was 2017. Marcus was on the road in Athens Georgia he knew Marianne
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lived there so he invited her to lunch I was on my motorcycle we took a trip around Athens we went to
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her home away from home the Botanical Gardens [Music] motorcycle ride I mean that was
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as romantic as you can get for lunchtime on a Wednesday some 20 years after they
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first met Marcus says they clicked we spent every possible moment together on the weekends
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Marianne enjoyed Marcus's company so much that she brought him along as her assistant on trips to China and Ecuador
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so this is a very serious relationship absolutely yeah yeah we were super in love with each other
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[Music] send him on his way it says the relationship seemed to suit Marianne's busy lifestyle she'd been
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married and divorced three times and had two children she had a PhD and was a star professor at the University of
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Georgia where she was known around campus as doc shock her specialty was entomology the study of insects we are
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going to talk about bugs Marianne liked everything about insects including their taste ants taste like
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citrus well some grain stained bugs taste like cinnamons she embraced entomology the eating of insects and she
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believed bugs could be used as a protein source to help solve world hunger so what do we have here today we have Craig
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brownies Shakira magic was one of Marianne's students who became a True Believer and something of a bug Baker
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and I request she brought some samples let's dig in let's kind of try it you could put a few more crickets on mine
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I'm not I'm not scarish to marry him to Marion oh and it's so moist the brownie is
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perfectly cooked perfectly baked and the Crickets add a little bit of added crunch yes Shakira says she could
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tolerate eating bugs more than she could tolerate Marcus I didn't particularly care for him
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I couldn't really put my finger on it but I didn't like them Carson could relate nobody knows a father better than
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their own son he had warned Marianne that Marcus had a Jekyll and Hyde personality largely because of drugs he
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was on cocaine my whole life and he cautioned her to be careful he's angry and he's violent and
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you're gonna see it if I could tell you anything it would just be to get away [Music]
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thank you on the afternoon of May 11 2019 Marcus and Marianne were in a celebratory mood
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the college school year had just ended and as seen in this surveillance footage the couple went bar hopping in
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Millageville before heading over to Clark heindel's house had a few beers smoked a little pot started a list of
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some music had a couple more beers Marcus spoke to us from jail he's been behind bars since Marianne's death he
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told us about that night and how it all began as an impromptu jam session Clark played the accordion and Marcus
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tried his hand at the conga just as they had done in the past we had stepped down from his porch and
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were getting ready to leave I said hey Clark I heard you got some acid and he says no but I've got some ecstasy
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Marcus says all three of them took the ecstasy pills a drug that makes users feel euphoric but can also cause anxiety
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and paranoia what happened next it got all fuzzy after that I was so out of it I couldn't make a
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sentence so I couldn't speak but Marquis did later piece together a timeline and told investigators that he
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thought he and Marianne got into the hot tub around 9pm Marcus said at one point he got out of
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the hot tub and Marianne begged him not to leave she says baby get back in this water with me right now was she afraid
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was she expressing any kind of concern she had fear in her voice and it was it was definitely fear Marcus says it was
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not clear what Marianne was afraid of why in that moment did you not turn back because I'm an idiot lay down Rhonda
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don't touch nothing Marcus initially told deputies that he went into the woods to collect firewood
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said the real reason he went into the woods was that he was trying to recreate a scene from a documentary called the
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last Shaman while on drugs The League character takes part in bizarre rituals like being
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buried alive I said I'm going to the woods to dig a hole Marcus says he went into the woods and
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simply lay down for how long he says he does not know I can't remember anything past her saying don't leave me what do
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you say to those who are hearing this story of a guy who has a history of drugs who
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is claiming you know I blacked out convenient it sounds like the devil was at work I mean everything
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that he could have possibly done to line this thing up to make it confusing and deceitful and
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it was all there you emerge from the woods what is the first thing you remember seeing hearing
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I didn't hear anything I could see Marianne slump down with her chin up to her nose underwater
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when Marianne was in the hot tub he says he stayed in the far end of the pool hanging out swimming
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and she's in this hot tub do you know at what point you've noticed you wasn't visible I never saw that she
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wasn't vulnerable so I got up I guess when he was coming back Marcus says he pulled Marianne out of
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the hot tub and placed her on the pool deck in doing so Marcus admits dropping Marianne who suffered a gas to her
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forehead at that point he says Clark walked over and he actually says should we call
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9-1-1 and what did you say I said no I think she'll be fine but Marianne was not fine that gash on
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her head bled profusely and it appeared she was not breathing Marcus and Clark said they took turns giving her CPR but
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delayed calling 9-1-1 maybe speak to some of the individuals that were present podcaster penny dearman has her
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own theory about why Marcus did not immediately call police in 2015 Marcus was convicted of selling marijuana and
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possessing methamphetamine and cocaine he was still on probation for that crime I would say that if you were an
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individual who's been in trouble with the law before and you're currently on probation that you would be afraid to
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call 9-1-1 it makes my family so angry and so hurt if he had a good heart if he truly loved
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Marianne he would have sacrificed anything to save her it's unclear how much time had passed
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before Clark called 9-1-1 but investigators believe Marianne had been dead for at least two hours before
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help arrived the questions from deputies on the scene got much more pointed if she's
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unconscious y'all don't think to call 9-1-1 if she's unconscious deputies decided to separate the men for
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further questioning they put Marcus in a squad party policy says I have to put your hand closing time not to transport
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you okay just place your hand back for me okay but judging from the body cam footage deputies seem to be having a
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hard time getting Clark to cooperate I've been told him three times to stay off the pool
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but he's insisting to have his lawyer something something is not right here bro all right wait right there it's crime
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scene now wait right there I asked you to wait back now sir I should have went back there but then
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the deputy watching Clark got a phone call and Clark wandered off we got a dead one no one noticed that Clark had
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slipped into his house not until deputies heard that shotgun go off [Music] and found his body
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yeah it tainted the case 100 because there weren't two people there that could say what happened there was only
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one but investigators say Clark did leave behind a potential clue a handwritten suicide note
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and I just said well he he had to have done it if that pill made me so stupid maybe it made him for once in his life a
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violent guy what do you think happened to Marianne Shockley chat now on Facebook and
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Twitter um [Music] Baldwin County Sheriff Bill Massey and major Brad King say they still can't
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shake the unease they felt when they arrived at Clark heindel's house on May 12 2019 during the early morning hours
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when Marianne Shockley was pronounced dead the failing at this scene was totally
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different than any I'd ever been to and it was a very a very strange strange feeling that everybody noticed here
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Sheriff Massey remembers walking through Clark's house when he spotted what turned out to be a handwritten suicide
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note on the kitchen counter this is the suicide note Clark wrote before taking his life that is a note
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yes that we found in the house he says I am very sorry I don't know what happened
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with Marianne but it was on my watch and I am so sorry for the family and friends
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Massey says Clark did not admit any guilt in the letter it mostly instructed his heirs on what to do with his
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possessions Marcus was now the only surviving witness from this scene that night why was Clark allowed to go back
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into his homework well I'll be up front with you it was a violation of our policy and procedures how big of a
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mistake was that in this case terrible mistake it was a dramatic a dramatic era in this case
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soon after deputies discovered Clark had killed himself Marcus was taken in for questioning hours later he was
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interviewed by Michael maben a special agent for the Georgia Bureau of Investigation also known as the gbi
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maben broke the news about Clark's suicide during during the time that I guess you
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win the matching the car went inside his house he committed suicide sometimes [Music]
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you're kidding I'm not I'm not kidding why why would why would he do that I don't know
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[Music] that she's alive maybe we knew you're kissing to do that Marcus immediately began speculating on
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what might have happened when he says he was in the woods and away from Marianne
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hey there's a pretty good chance that Clark got that hot tub with him I almost said it's a very high chance of it I'm a
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really high chance not now man do you do you think he did something she would do it to herself and I know I
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didn't do anything the investigation was in its early stages and authorities weren't sure who
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or what to believe Ayla found it impossible to believe her sister could drown in a hot tub
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that made no sense Marianne was intelligent like even if she was drinking in the hot tub I just could not
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see that happening almost immediately investigators found out about Marcus's 2015 drug conviction
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but they were also looking closely at Clark heindel who was 69 years old and had his own issues and he had a bit of a
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checkered past that really caught up with him and impacted his career yes fortunately he
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podcaster Penny dearman says Clark's license to practice Psychology was revoked in 2017 after a former female
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patient filed a complaint with a State Licensing Board she charged that Clark had engaged her in a sexual relationship
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and had given her marijuana it's a pretty sordid Tale but investigators could find no proof
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Clark had done anything to Marianne Sheriff Massey had known Clark for years and knew his son had died at the age of
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six from a rare form of cancer Blues in his psychology license the death of a young son that had had him
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depressed for years the embarrassment of it all and it happened to his house after his son's death Penny says Clark
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took the first of several trips to Peru to work with shamans much like the main character in The Last Shaman documentary
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by coincidence Marcus says he and Clark discussed that film on the night Marianne died and in another bizarre
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twist Marcus says Clark found some hydrangea branches and shook them around Marianne's body
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it was a ritualistic or Seance or something Clark who had opened a local Yoga Studio
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in recent years had a lot of friends and supporters including Marcus's son who began seeing Clark for therapy when he
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was only 14 years old I did love Clark and I still do and I think I didn't realize how much he meant
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to me until he was gone Carson says that as soon as he heard Marianne was dead he pinned the blame on
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his father whom he describes as a malignant narcissist he was headed towards destruction and was
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determined to bring somebody with him and Carson wasn't the only person who felt Marcus had violent tendencies I was
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at my desk at the office and a young lady called me extremely upset and she said Sheriff Massey Marianne Shockley
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didn't dry him she said Marcus choked her to death [Music] soon after Marianne Shockley was
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declared dead in the early morning hours of Mother's Day May 12 2019. Sheriff Massey received that phone call from an
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ex-girlfriend of Marcus who said she strongly suspected that Marcus had choked Marianne she said the same thing
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happened to me a long time ago when I was at a low point in my life and she said he choked her having sex news had
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spread through word of mouth in the small town that Marianne had died in a hot tub and Marcus was in jail I asked
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if she'd come give us a statement and she did Marcus's ex-girlfriend told investigators that Marcus had a choking
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fetish and that it was a regular part of their sex life how many times do you think you and Marcus had sex
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maybe a hundred dollars but how many times do you think choking was involved I would say at least 30 times the woman
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said the erotic choking was consensual but one time she says Marcus went too far he tried me long enough to where I
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lost Consciousness and my body crumbled to the floor he just left me there Marcus says his ex-girlfriend was
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exaggerating but he didn't deny choking her during sex it was really more of a place to put your hands for control just
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a little light pressure to the carotid arteries you know does that was really about it there was never any pressure
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here the pressure was here it was not that it was blown way out of proportion Marquis said he only tried choking
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Marianne one time and not on the night she died he said she told him she didn't like it and he never tried it again
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Ayla does not believe him I believe that they were having sex and he choked her and that is what caused her death gbi
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agents had first interviewed Marcus on Mother's Day morning and later placed him in custody on a probation hold
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stemming from his previous drug conviction the following day Monday May 13 2019 the autopsy results came in and
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investigators felt they were damning we were notified by the medical examiner that it was a classic case of shrine you
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like busted blood vessels in her eyes and had nothing to do with any drowning medical examiner Dr Melissa Sim Stanley
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wrote that Marianne quote died as a result of asphyxia due to strangulation the manner of death is best classified
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as homicide given the results of the autopsy and the information from Marcus's ex-girlfriend
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Authority Saint Marcus became the focus of the investigation hours after getting those autopsy
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results gbi agent Michael maben requested another interview with Marcus and he agreed again he did not request a
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lawyer at least at first okay and you need to tell me what the hell happened before you know and we
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need to talk about don't know I told you immediately agent maben accuses Marcus of lying
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so I'll meet you a lawyer at this point because I mean you've already got your mind made up you already you already got
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your mind made up yep I did well a young arrest of America [Music] it was only one day after Marianne's
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death when Marcus was charged with her murder he was formally indicted nearly two years later in March 2021 and
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charged with four counts felony murder aggravated assault involuntary manslaughter and Reckless conduct He was
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ordered held without bond it made sense that she was not responsible for her own
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death because I know my sister she wasn't a careless person did it make me feel better no because now
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I know that someone took her from us Marcus sat in jail months turned into years Sheriff Massey says investigators
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vetted Clark and dropped him as a suspect and as the trial approached Marcus settled on Matt Tucker as his
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defense attorney and he just goes I'm not going to admit to anything I didn't do
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[Music] largely because of covid nearly three years went by before Marcus Lillard
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stood trial for the murder of Marianne chocolate but on April 4th 2022 his trial began here at the Baldwin County
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Courthouse assistant district attorney Tammy Coffey laid out what the prosecution believes happened between
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Marcus and Marianne on the night she died after they got in the hot tub I think that they engaged in sex I think he
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choked her I think he took her too hard and for too long assistant district attorney Nancy malcourt told 48 hours
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there was no clear evidence of sexual activity because Marianne's body had been in the hot tub for a prolonged
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period of time meanwhile gbi agents had been busy talking to former sex partners of Marcus
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to determine if he had choked them it turns out gbi agents found eight women I went out with Marcus a few times back
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in the fall of 2016. one night we were having sex and he put his hands around my neck you said he did choke you at
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times he did try to choke me that was something that he was into I stopped him twice
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it's not something that I'm into I don't like it it scares me prosecutors put six of the women on the
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stand the women testified Marcus choked them or attempted to choke them during sex
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and two of those Witnesses told jurors Marcus had choked them until they passed out all of it was consensual they're
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still alive so I mean how does it even relevant but Ayla thinks their testimony was relevant and demonstrates how
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callous and dangerous Marcus could be it's one thing to gamble with your own life you know you want to do drugs if
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you want to choke yourself out I mean okay and one of his girlfriends he just told her to shut up so that showed a
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disregard for women period the medical examiner testified to her findings but Tucker noticed that the
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autopsy revealed the hyoid bone in Marianne's neck was intact and not broken some experts including a surgeon
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Tucker consulted considered that unusual in a strangulation case and he said that's what you need to
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explore find out why I wasn't broken if somebody was a strangling Marion Why didn't it break
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Tucker suggested to Dr Sim Stanley that perhaps whoever killed Marianne was too old or not strong enough to break that
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bone he asked could that person be 70 years of age and she said yes before she realized
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what she was saying Clark was 69 at the time Tucker says that shows Clark nearly three decades
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older than Marcus could have been Marianne's killer but with this juror agree I was not there to prosecute Clark I was
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there to find where the Marcus Lillard was guilty or not follow the evidence to learn more about
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what happened the night Marianne died at 48hours.com let the record reflect that all jurors
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are President States councils the president as Marcus allergic trial progressed defense attorney Matt Tucker
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floated the theory that Clark strangled Marianne after she rebuffed his sexual advances it was a scenario that Marcus
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said had haunted him while he was behind bars my theory for the better part of the three years was
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that he took a shot at her while she was alone and she rejected him prosecutors say there is no evidence
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Clark did anything to Marianne and they insist Marcus was the killer in the autopsy it shows manual strangulation it
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was deliberate the muscles themselves were severely damaged I didn't I didn't straggler what do you say to people
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who are convinced you killed Marianne I've been defending myself for so long I'm not even really concerned what they
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think at trial prosecutors Tammy Coffey and Nancy malcor put Marianne's sister Ayla
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on the stand because I know my sister I know you know and she talked about a private letter
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found in Marianne's house the letter comes her being reflective on her relationships and how she has selected
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guys to date or to spend time with that were not good for her did she mention anyone by name she did and that was
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Marcus she wrote when he does white lady he gets bile the white lady yeah I understood that to be cocaine
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tests show that Marcus did have cocaine in his system the night Marianne died but could not pinpoint when he had taken
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the drug as for that private letter what did you do with it I gave it to my dad Ayla testified that her father burned
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the letter leading Matt Tucker to question her memory at the beginning of this letter started
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as I do not she swooping now she read it three years ago how do you remember what
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was in there Tucker offered jurors a second explanation for Marianne's death a theory now embraced by Marcus who no
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longer blames Clark I think the Ecstasy in the hot tub killed her I feel like in
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my heart of hearts the medical examiners made a mistake Marcus his lawyer tried to get the
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medical examiner to admit Marianne could have died because of the amount of ecstasy and alcohol in her system
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coupled with the heat of the hot tub ecstasy is also known as MDMA now ma'am it's true that this hot tub is 107.
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they're only supposed to be 104. that didn't have a factor with the body temperature being that high with having
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the high levels of MDMA inner system with them being drinking all day this had nothing to do with it and she was
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like no she just disregarded that immediately but the medical examiner's own autopsy revealed that Marianne had
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cardiomegaly an enlarged heart which is a condition that medical experts say could lead to sudden cardiac death
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48 Hours had some questions and sent all the autopsy information to Dr Greg Davis
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a forensic pathologist not involved with the case after reviewing the documents he said that it was possible Marianne
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was strangled but a valid competing cause of death a sudden cardiac death due to mixed drug intoxication a lethal
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mix of MDMA alcohol and marijuana with a contribution from underlying heart disease he said there was no way he
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would have called Marianne's death a homicide if it were up to him he wrote he'd classify her manner of death as
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undetermined but no medical experts testified for the defense no one did not even Marcus he
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wanted to testify that he wanted to get across but I didn't think it'd be productive
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the trail moved swiftly jury selection started on a Monday and by late Friday afternoon April 8 2022 the case went to
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the jury time to deliberate what are you thinking I hit peace man I had Pace over
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over really the whole thing deliberations began and ended just like that less than an hour goes by there's a
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verdict 38 minutes my first impression was he did it he committed this murder and whatever they
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tell me is not going to prove to me that he didn't do it tysha Davis was jur number 11. why did you think that
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because the professor was his girlfriend and Clark heinder was a 70 something year old man he couldn't have murdered
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her and I just I knew Marcus did it I just knew he did it that's the count one the top charge was
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felony murder and the verdict was not guilty not guilty verdicts on the other charges followed in quick succession and
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it's just not guilty not guilty not guilty not guilty with each one my heart just kind of
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sucked lower and lower I thought there was no way that he could get off we were in utter shock everyone was
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shocked and of course I look over at Marcus and he's got a smirk on his face and
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my blood was boiling how does Taisha explain her change of heart I felt like the prosecuting attorney
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she painted the picture that Marcus Lillard was a womanizer he was a narcissist but they didn't prove that he
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was a killer what do you think happened to Marianne jockley that night I don't know what
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happened that frustrated me because we don't know what happened to her or if she really was strangled if she
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died from strangulation who strangled her so it sounds like you even questioned if there was a murder in the
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first place I have my doubts about that judge Allison Burleson also had doubts but they were of a different nature Mr
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Lillard I've come to quite a different conclusion than what the jury has come to it is quite clear to this court that
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the only person you were concerned with that night May 11 2019 was herself she immediately found that Marcus violated
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his probation for that 2015 drug conviction and he was remanded to prison my conscious is very clear when it comes
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to Marianne do I miss Marianne yeah I was lucky to get that time with her that I did
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and I cherish that [Music] I think of Marion every single day I have her name on my bracelet I'm wearing
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her earrings right now Marianne was the most beautiful Spirit she worked hard she cared about
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things that other people didn't care about the teeny weeny creatures that Keep Us Alive
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that keep our world turning [Music] thank you [Music] a young woman vanishes something's
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terribly wrong the prime suspect had an unthinkable past I met Rick Ennis when he was 12 years old I said where are
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