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Walter Shelley juror: Brown's testimony was key

October 26, 2014 / 02:09

This episode discusses the trial of Edward Alan Brown and Michael Ferrer, focusing on Brown's confession and testimony regarding the murder of John McCabe. Key topics include the motivations behind Brown's confession, the credibility of witnesses, and the implications of the jury's verdict.

The conversation highlights the perplexing nature of Brown's admission of guilt, questioning why someone would implicate themselves in a crime without clear motivation. The hosts discuss the inconsistencies in witness testimonies and the challenges faced by the jury in believing Brown's account.

Listeners hear about the contrasting fates of the two defendants, with Brown likely facing severe consequences while Ferrer is acquitted. The discussion raises questions about justice and the complexities surrounding the verdicts in this case.

Ultimately, the episode reflects on the broader implications of the trial and the doubts it raises about the judicial process.

TLDR

The episode examines Edward Alan Brown's confession and the trial's verdicts, questioning the motivations and credibility of the involved parties.

Episode

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What would you consider the most important part of the trial? Edward Alan Brown's confession and his testimony.
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Um, I mean, he confessed. That was extremely powerful. I don't know. I mean, why would anybody implicate
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themselves in a murder? Why? It does happen, you know. Sure, but where was the motivation? I mean, he didn't have
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any motivation. Get a better deal. You know, he's not going to jail. Mhm. Well, but I mean getting a better deal implies
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that he was bare, right? I mean, if he's guilty, he's guilty. He said he was. So,
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by implicating himself, why would he get a better deal? Nobody's story lined up at all. Everybody's contradicted. Okay.
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And so, given that, and we're talking um witnesses were called by both sides. And
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so therefore, I needed to believe the person who was at the murder and who admitted to being at the murder. Can you
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understand why the jury in the Ferrer trial would not have believed Brown? Can you understand why somebody would think
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he's a liar and an opportunist? I can see that. Um, yes, they made they made the case
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that he was lying. He had no idea what he was talking about. He didn't have any of the details that he was fed the
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details by the the the the interrogations and the leading questions um of the police. I saw somebody who was
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um very disturbed about the event and that I couldn't see had any reason to misrepresent that. You had two
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defendants, same set of facts. One guy is free as a bird and one guy's going to probably die in the penitentiary. Yeah.
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Was justice done for the murder of John McCabe? Well, the question actually has been bothering me is that Michael Ferrer
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is walking free. When you found out that he had been found innocent, did it make
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you doubt your verdict? No. In fact, I was like, how could they have found him innocent? The the logical conclusion is
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if Shel's guilty and Edward Allen Brown is guilty, so is Ferrara.

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Episode Highlights

  • Brown's Confession
    Edward Alan Brown's confession and testimony were pivotal in the trial.
    “I mean, he confessed. That was extremely powerful.”
    @ 00m 03s
    October 26, 2014
  • Doubts About Justice
    The question of whether justice was served lingers, especially with Ferrer walking free.
    “How could they have found him innocent?”
    @ 01m 59s
    October 26, 2014

Episode Quotes

  • Why would anybody implicate themselves in a murder?
    Walter Shelley juror: Brown's testimony was key
  • Nobody's story lined up at all. Everybody's contradicted.
    Walter Shelley juror: Brown's testimony was key
  • Was justice done for the murder of John McCabe?
    Walter Shelley juror: Brown's testimony was key

Key Moments

  • Confession Impact00:03
  • Contradicting Stories00:33
  • Justice Questions01:43

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