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Elizabeth Smart to Jayme Closs: "There's no going back"

January 13, 2019 / 07:12

This episode discusses the cases of Jamie Cla, Elizabeth Smart, John Paul Getty III, Patty Hurst, JC Dugard, and Shawn Hornbeck, focusing on their abductions and recoveries.

The episode begins with the recent news of Jamie Cla being found alive after 88 days. The emotional impact of her return is compared to the experiences of other kidnapping survivors.

Elizabeth Smart shares her story of being abducted in 2002 and emphasizes the importance of moving forward after trauma. She offers advice to Jamie Cla, highlighting the need to find a new normal.

Other cases mentioned include John Paul Getty III, who was kidnapped in 1973, and Patty Hurst, who was taken by the Symbionese Liberation Army in 1974. Their stories illustrate the complexities of abduction and recovery.

JC Dugard's long captivity and eventual rescue are discussed, along with Shawn Hornbeck's abduction and the challenges faced by families of missing children. The episode concludes with reflections on the ongoing journey of recovery for survivors.

TLDR

The episode covers the abduction and recovery stories of Jamie Cla, Elizabeth Smart, and others, focusing on their emotional journeys and advice for healing.

Episode

7:12
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as news spread that Jamie CLA was alive and safe 88 days of holding on to the faith that our authorities would never
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give up and they certainly did not almost immediately thoughts turned to another celebrated case and when we hear
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that you know a Jamie has been found how wonderful what another miracle it's heart knows the anguish of waiting for a
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child to come home you know night after night you just want to wake up and this is a bad dream and it's going away it
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was 2002 when Ed's 14-year-old daughter Elizabeth Smart was snatched from her Utah bedroom it was one of the most
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publicized and memorable child abductions we have not given up on you Elizabeth we're going to find you it
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took nine months of searching and sorrow before the smart family could celebrate
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Elizabeth's safe return they took me to this room and when they open the door and she was there I just I couldn't
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believe it I I just couldn't believe it Elizabeth had been abducted by this man Brian David Mitchell Whom The Smarts
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briefly hired to do work in their home Mitchell and his wife held Elizabeth captive hiding and disguised
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these stories are indelible and while rare still too frequent for those involved there was the case of John Paul
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Getty III the grandson of oil tycoon J Paul Getty who was kidnapped in 1973 at the
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age of 16 the story was told in the movie all the money in the world if I start paying ransoms I'll have 14
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kidnapped grandchildren held by the Mafia in Italy his ear was chopped off eventually a ransom was paid and he was
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released 5 months later Getty has since died Mom Dad I'm okay I just hope that you'll do what they say Dad just do it
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quickly in 1974 19-year-old newspaper Heir Patty Hurst was kidnapped by the California
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radical terrorist group The Symbian Liberation Army I have chosen to stay and fight a year and a half later after
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being involved in a bank robbery she was found during an FBI raid Hurst served a
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2-year prison sentence as question swirled about whether she had willingly committed violent acts I a soldier in
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the People's Army or was brainwashed I think about you know what it was that I had to do in order to survive it's
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amazing what people can do to you today she is a wife mother and grandmother another missing child made
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news in 1991 11-year-old JC Dugard was abducted on her way to school in California she was hidden for nearly two
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decades by a couple Philip and Nancy guito Philip guito was a registered sex offender JC lived behind a series of
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fences and Tents even giving birth to two children fathered by her abductor in this ramshackle backyard
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compound Dugard was found when she was 29 after a parole officer noticed gito acting strangely she now heads a
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foundation for families in trauma just today she issued a message to Jamie CLA writing the road ahead will have many
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ups and downs allow yourself to grieve and move forward October 6 2002 was a Sunday it was about
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1:00 in the afternoon Shawn was bored and uh asked if he could go out to play he wanted to ride his bike to his
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friend's house something that we had let him do you know hundreds maybe thousands
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of times before to me he was just my sweet little boy the parents of sha Hornbeck also
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know the pain of waiting after a child goes missing Shawn was was 11 when he vanished in Missouri in 2002 it would
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take 4 and 1/2 years before Shawn's parents learned what happened I didn't really know it was behind
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me you know I was in the ditch that's when he picked me up tied my hands behind my back and put me in
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the truck he had the gun he had the power a random stranger a child Predator named Mike delin abducted Shawn the
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thing that sticks out the most is he said you were just in the wrong place at the wrong
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time Sean's nightmare came to an end when delin kidnapped another boy this time from a school bus stop a witness
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helped law enforcement track down the vehicle delin drove which led them to find both boys at Devin's
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apartment and then the parents who didn't know if they'd ever see their son again again laid eyes on sea and that
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was just the most wonderful feeling that you could have and then it was like the
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Waterworks were just on there there was no off button on it it's like a water man
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broke since then Sean has mostly stayed out of the spotlight he was last reported to be working in a factory with
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hopes of obtaining a college degree in criminal law of course it's too soon to know how
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Jamie Claus will now move on unlike these other cases her parents will not be there to welcome her home I
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think it's going to be hard not having her parents there but but making the connection she can and finding the love
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and support from the community ed Smart's daughter Elizabeth has rebuilt her life she's now married
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with Children speaking with Gail King this past September Elizabeth Smart said part of a recovery involved letting go I
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don't don't feel that I could have moved forward in my life had I still been holding on to hate and anger inside me
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because that would still be taking up a percentage of of my soul and just hours after Jamie was found Elizabeth had this
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advice for her there is no going back to who she was before she was kidnapped it's not possible took me years to
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realize that I would never go back to being who I was before I was Kid I'd say now start start looking for your
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new normal because you you can't go back to the old normal that's gone

Badges

This episode stands out for the following:

  • 75
    Most heartbreaking
  • 70
    Most emotional
  • 65
    Most inspiring
  • 60
    Most dramatic

Episode Highlights

  • Jamie Claus Found Alive
    After 88 days, Jamie Claus is found safe, bringing hope to many.
    “What another miracle!”
    @ 00m 27s
    January 13, 2019
  • Elizabeth Smart's Return
    Elizabeth Smart was found after nine months of searching, a moment of disbelief.
    “I just couldn't believe it.”
    @ 01m 08s
    January 13, 2019
  • Patty Hurst's Survival
    Patty Hurst reflects on her kidnapping and the choices she made to survive.
    “It's amazing what people can do to you.”
    @ 02m 58s
    January 13, 2019
  • Shawn Hornbeck's Abduction
    Shawn Hornbeck was missing for 4.5 years before being found, a parent's relief.
    “The most wonderful feeling you could have.”
    @ 05m 36s
    January 13, 2019
  • Moving Forward After Trauma
    Elizabeth Smart shares her journey of recovery and the importance of finding a new normal.
    “You can't go back to the old normal, that's gone.”
    @ 07m 06s
    January 13, 2019

Episode Quotes

  • I just couldn't believe it.
    Elizabeth Smart to Jayme Closs: "There's no going back"
  • It's amazing what people can do to you.
    Elizabeth Smart to Jayme Closs: "There's no going back"
  • The most wonderful feeling you could have.
    Elizabeth Smart to Jayme Closs: "There's no going back"
  • You can't go back to the old normal, that's gone.
    Elizabeth Smart to Jayme Closs: "There's no going back"

Key Moments

  • Miracle Found00:27
  • Disbelief01:08
  • Survival Choices02:58
  • Parental Relief05:36
  • New Normal07:06

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