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Notebook: Finding a way to go on

December 20, 2016 / 04:08

This episode covers the murder of Nancy Bishop and the aftermath experienced by her mother and two sisters. It discusses grief, healing, and family dynamics following loss.

The conversation features the perspectives of the three women who lost Nancy Bishop over two decades ago. They share their unique ways of coping with the tragedy while maintaining their family bond.

The host, Moren Maher, reflects on her own family's recent loss of her brother-in-law, drawing parallels between their experiences and those of the Bishop family.

Maher emphasizes the importance of honoring lost loved ones and how grief can manifest differently among family members. The episode highlights the complexities of healing and the necessity of staying connected despite differing opinions on handling grief.

Listeners are encouraged to join Maher in exploring these themes in the show titled Road to Redemption.

TLDR

This episode discusses Nancy Bishop's murder and the differing ways her family coped with loss over the years.

Episode

4:08
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There will always be certain cases that resonate with those of us who cover and watch true crime. People always ask me,
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"Whatever happened to this family or that particular family?" Because they remember those characters, those
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families. They feel like they know them in some way. Well, this week's case is about that part of the story. It is a
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murder mystery and an intriguing one at that. But it is also about what happens in the days and the years after someone
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is violently and unexpectedly ripped from your life. How do you go on? Can you go on? This week you will meet three
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extraordinary, completely remarkable women, a mother and two sisters of a young woman named Nancy Bishop who was
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murdered more than two decades ago. Each of those women has had to find a way to
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deal with the loss. And they have, but they're totally at odds. Except that these three women are not at odds with
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each other. And that is what I found fascinating about this case. When producer Chris Okonnell came to me and
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told me about it, the murder mystery part of it was interesting, but it was how these women have found a way to go
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on. And as a person who is sometimes accused of having strong opinions, I could not imagine how you could sit down
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with your family and not engage in a passionate debate about such strong and differing opinions. And yet, they have
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found a way. And in the last few months, I have had to find a way. Little did I know when we started covering this case
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that there would be a point in my life I'd sort of be faced with a similar situation. About a month into covering
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this case, my family also suffered a horrible tragic loss. My brother-in-law was killed in a car accident. Doug had a
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very full life. He was a father of four. He was a husband, a son, a brother. He was my husband's business partner, and
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for 25 years, the two of them talked on the phone or saw each other every single
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day at work. Somehow, the family has had to find a way to go on. And this is the
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second time. He is the second sibling of theirs that was killed in a car crash. And yet, this family has found a way to
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work together. Including my husband's mother, his siblings, all of their spouses, and all of our children. There
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were 20 of us. Now, there are 19. In the last six months since his death, I have
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witnessed at least 19 different ways of dealing with this loss, and I have not agreed with all of them. But the first
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round of holidays and special events are upon us since his passing. And like those three women from this week's show
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have done for more than two decades, my family too will sit down, hold hands, say a prayer of thanksgiving, probably
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shed some tears, and hopefully we'll share some laughter, although I'm sure it will be bittersweet. And we'll have
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to find a way to do that. Because even though we differ on how to handle things, what remains most important to
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all of us is that the 19 stay together. For more than two decades covering crime, I have witnessed almost every
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imaginable way of dealing with grief. Some of it seems normal. Some of it is different because it's not maybe what
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you or I would do, including forgiving a murderer and in one case befriending one. I've learned in the last few months
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from this family that we've spent so much time with as well as my own that grief is often tied to the depth of the
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relationship and the kind of relationship that one has with the person who has been lost. It's very
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challenging. Often what you said and what you did not have a chance to say before that person died ties into it.
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Grief and how you handle it seems to be so closely tied to healing. Grief is often the expression of excruciating
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personal loss, but healing, as I've discovered in the last few months, is also about how you honor the person who
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has been lost. I'm Moren Maher. I hope that you'll join us this weekend. And the show is called Road to Redemption.

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Episode Highlights

  • The Journey of Grief
    This week's case delves into the aftermath of a tragic murder and how families cope with loss.
    “These three women have found a way to go on.”
    @ 01m 10s
    December 20, 2016
  • Finding Unity in Grief
    Despite differing opinions, families can find ways to stay together after tragedy.
    “What remains most important is that the 19 stay together.”
    @ 02m 59s
    December 20, 2016
  • Lessons from Loss
    Grief is tied to the depth of relationships and how we honor those we've lost.
    “Grief and how you handle it seems to be so closely tied to healing.”
    @ 03m 46s
    December 20, 2016

Episode Quotes

  • How do you go on? Can you go on?
    Notebook: Finding a way to go on
  • Grief is often the expression of excruciating personal loss.
    Notebook: Finding a way to go on
  • Healing is also about how you honor the person who has been lost.
    Notebook: Finding a way to go on

Key Moments

  • Coping with Loss00:12
  • Murder Mystery00:24
  • Family Unity02:59
  • Grief and Healing03:46

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