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What is torture and should we do it?

May 17, 2016 / 02:21

This episode discusses the Senate report on CIA interrogation techniques, including torture and ethical implications. Key topics include the morality of brutal interrogation methods, the legal boundaries of such actions, and the potential justification in extreme scenarios.

Guests express conflicting views on the use of torture, with one stating that it is beneath the dignity of the country. Another guest argues that in dire situations, such as a nuclear threat, extreme measures might be considered.

The conversation highlights the importance of maintaining moral standards even in the face of national security threats. The guests emphasize the need for accountability and the rejection of torture as a practice.

Overall, the episode raises critical questions about the balance between security and ethics in the context of national defense.

TLDR

The episode debates the morality and legality of CIA torture techniques revealed in a Senate report.

Episode

2:21
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the Senate report has publicly revealed graphic new details the report says detainees were kept in total darkness
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Shackled to the wall in 45° temperatures one prisoner died in the CIA did things
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which I really consider immoral any activity we conduct is within the law we do not torture we
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tortured some folks are brutal interrogation techniques ever acceptable we were asked to do some very
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hard things are we happy we did them of course not would we do them again I would hope so if we found ourselves in
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those circumstances I just don't think a country like ours should be capable of conducting torture I just think it's
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beneath our dignity I think it's poor for our reputation in the world I'm not going to ever accept the
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use of the word torture in front of what what happened here you you know I'm not
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going to fault to that somebody has to stand up and be willing to say this is not what our country is about we've got
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to have people who are prepared to say Mr President you can't do that it's illegal we visit violence on our enemies
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but we should not mistreat them even though they have done unspeakable things to our soldiers and to civilians that
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does not justify us doing it to them the reality is you have to look at it in context I mean if if in fact you
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had uh credible intelligence that there was a nuclear weapon planted someplace in New York City or Washington DC and
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there was one person that would know where that bomb was located uh it'd be very tough uh not to resort
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to every method possible in order to get that information I just have to be frank
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with you if some future president is going to decide to waterboard he better bring his own bucket because he's going
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to have to do it himself the agency is not going to do this again

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Episode Highlights

  • Senate Report Reveals Torture Details
    The Senate report exposes shocking details about detainee treatment, including total darkness and extreme temperatures.
    “The report says detainees were kept in total darkness.”
    @ 00m 09s
    May 17, 2016
  • A Moral Dilemma
    Discussion on the morality of torture and its implications for national dignity and reputation.
    “I just think it's beneath our dignity.”
    @ 00m 51s
    May 17, 2016
  • Future of Interrogation Methods
    A stark warning about the potential return of controversial interrogation techniques.
    “He better bring his own bucket.”
    @ 02m 13s
    May 17, 2016

Episode Quotes

  • I just think it's beneath our dignity.
    What is torture and should we do it?
  • This is not what our country is about.
    What is torture and should we do it?

Key Moments

  • Senate Report00:05
  • Graphic Details00:07
  • Total Darkness00:09
  • Moral Reflection00:21
  • Torture Debate00:27
  • Legal Justification00:40
  • National Values01:10
  • Future Concerns02:13

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