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so etiquette says I let the lady go into the cage first I've never done an interview in a cage before you fight
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people in this cage right presumably yes um and why do you do that exactly I do it for fun this is what you do for
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living yes how does one build a career in mixed martial arts well it started out because I was overweight and out of
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shape and one of my friends said hey you know why don't you come over to one of the MMA gyms and maybe you can get some
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of your builtup frustrations out on a bay well my first day there uh I was about a
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little over 160 lb and I was barely breathing about to die on the floor and I was like oh my gosh I'm going to be a
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pro fighter and they thought they'd probably see me maybe one or two days and eight years later here I am still
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going out in the cage yes where have you uh competed oh I've competed in various
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places I've competed in uh North Dakota California Colorado New Mexico all the time in in
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the cage yes and I've also competed in Jitsu tournaments also those aren't in the cage but and Muay Tha fights those
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are in the ring so which do you prefer cage ring or whatever you do jiujitsu in cage you can't run away from me in the
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cage you're locked in you're not getting out I'll take your word for it