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This little girl was once adopted — only to be brought back to Russia

November 19, 2022 / 05:01

This episode discusses the troubling behavior of a young girl named Carolee, her adoption story, and the challenges faced by her adoptive family. Key topics include mental health issues, the impact of trauma, and the family's experiences with Carolee's aggression towards her brother Joshua.

The episode begins with the adoptive parents recalling the joy of adopting Carolee, described as a wonderful and intelligent girl. However, after bringing her home, they noticed alarming changes in her behavior, including moments of blank stares and aggression.

As the family navigates Carolee's troubling actions, they recount a chilling incident where Carolee attempted to harm her brother Joshua. The adoptive mother describes the fear and confusion surrounding Carolee's mental state, including her claims of hearing voices.

A psychiatrist confirms that Carolee poses a risk to herself and others, leading the family to confront the reality of her condition. The episode highlights their struggle to understand and support Carolee while ensuring the safety of their family.

Throughout the discussion, the emotional toll on the family is evident as they grapple with their love for Carolee and the fear of her unpredictable behavior.

TLDR

Carolee's adoption reveals severe mental health issues and family struggles with her aggressive behavior towards her brother Joshua.

Episode

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foreign you're happy I [Music] she looked in my eyes very warmly you're my mama she called you a mama she didn't
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from the very beginning my American mama she said foreign ly learned that we were going to
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be able to go over to Russia and pick up a little boy and girl of our own it was
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just a tremendous event how did the agency describe currently a wonderful outgoing intelligent little
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girl loved to be around all ages of children and desperately looking for parents
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she was a beautiful child after we returned home we would see her staring off into the distance blankly in
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a trance-like state she started to stand over our bed at night wake up and she'd
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be right over my face there was a coldness in her and an anger and just a distance she became someone I didn't
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know at all I mean at all our knives were disappearing she had him in her hands and was going
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to throw him over the deck she had him yes yes over the side here yes and I just started screaming put him down
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Carolee put him down doing chilling she started telling me you know I'm hearing voices
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and I'm saying things she says when the voices tell her to do something she has to do it or they'll
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hurt her and the voices she said told her to kill him doctor there is no question in your mind
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that Carolee is a very troubled little girl no there's no question in my mind about it at all
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this child I would consider to be a homicide risk what happened that day out on the deck
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you're trying to push him off the deck try to um call Joshua she is a danger to society but
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more than that she's a danger to our son we've been here every day loving her nurturing her helping her
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we couldn't save her they told me that it last night they love me and everything I tell them I
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loved them very much but I didn't know that didn't believe me I did not try to get my brother
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you didn't try to kill Joshua you're telling me the truth I just tried to him just pick him up
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that's all because he was too heavy crystal said I needed to go get Joshua trying to pick up a child that's really
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almost as big as you is kind of hard so I'm trying to walk down the steps just able to hold him so he doesn't fall
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Crystal looked and she said put him down Carolee put him down put him down I eventually put him down and she's like
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you try to kill him didn't you and I said no I was trying to pick him up so he doesn't fall because he was sliding
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off my hands and she's like no you were trying to kill him and she kept saying it and saying it and I said yes
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so I just I finally said yes I went to psychiatrist as a psychiatrist and I remember Chris to say just
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remember we wanted to kill Joshua I said okay I will tell him

Badges

This episode stands out for the following:

  • 90
    Most shocking
  • 85
    Most dramatic
  • 85
    Most intense
  • 80
    Most emotional

Episode Highlights

  • A Troubled Child
    The doctor confirms Carolee is a very troubled little girl, posing a homicide risk.
    “there is no question in your mind that Carolee is a very troubled little girl”
    @ 02m 37s
    November 19, 2022
  • Danger to Society
    Concerns grow as Carolee is deemed a danger to both society and her brother.
    “she is a danger to society but more than that she's a danger to our son”
    @ 02m 58s
    November 19, 2022
  • Struggling to Communicate
    Carolee expresses her love but feels misunderstood by her family.
    “I loved them very much but I didn't know that they didn't believe me”
    @ 03m 34s
    November 19, 2022

Episode Quotes

  • she was a beautiful child.
    This little girl was once adopted — only to be brought back to Russia
  • I mean at all.
    This little girl was once adopted — only to be brought back to Russia
  • I did not try to get my brother.
    This little girl was once adopted — only to be brought back to Russia
  • I just tried to pick him up, that's all.
    This little girl was once adopted — only to be brought back to Russia

Key Moments

  • Adoption Journey00:45
  • Voices in Her Head02:16
  • Psychiatric Evaluation04:43

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