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This little girl was once adopted — only to be brought back to Russia

November 19, 2022 / 05:01

This episode discusses the troubling experiences of a family adopting a child named Carolee, who exhibits alarming behavior. Key topics include mental health issues, adoption challenges, and the impact of trauma.

The episode features the family's journey to adopt Carolee, described as a wonderful and intelligent girl, but they soon encounter serious problems. After bringing her home, they notice her staring blankly and displaying anger.

One alarming incident involves Carolee attempting to harm her brother Joshua, leading to concerns about her mental state. A psychiatrist confirms that Carolee is a homicide risk, highlighting the severity of her issues.

The family expresses their love and efforts to nurture Carolee, but they feel helpless in the face of her struggles. The episode raises questions about the challenges of adoption and the complexities of mental health.

Listeners hear Carolee's perspective as she grapples with her actions and the voices she claims to hear, adding depth to the family's story.

TLDR

A family's adoption of troubled Carolee reveals severe mental health issues and alarming behavior towards her brother.

Episode

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foreign you're happy I [Music] she looked in my eyes very warmly you're my mama she called you a mama she didn't
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from the very beginning my American mama she said foreign ly learned that we were going to
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be able to go over to Russia and pick up a little boy and girl of our own it was
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just a tremendous event how did the agency describe currently a wonderful outgoing intelligent little
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girl loved to be around all ages of children and desperately looking for parents
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she was a beautiful child after we returned home we would see her staring off into the distance blankly in
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a trance-like state she started to stand over our bed at night wake up and she'd
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be right over my face there was a coldness in her and an anger and just a distance she became someone I didn't
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know at all I mean at all our knives were disappearing she had him in her hands and was going
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to throw him over the deck she had him yes yes over the side here yes and I just started screaming put him down
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Carolee put him down doing chilling she started telling me you know I'm hearing voices
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and I'm saying things she says when the voices tell her to do something she has to do it or they'll
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hurt her and the voices she said told her to kill him doctor there is no question in your mind
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that Carolee is a very troubled little girl no there's no question in my mind about it at all
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this child I would consider to be a homicide risk what happened that day out on the deck
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you're trying to push him off the deck try to um call Joshua she is a danger to society but
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more than that she's a danger to our son we've been here every day loving her nurturing her helping her
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we couldn't save her they told me that it last night they love me and everything I tell them I
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loved them very much but I didn't know that didn't believe me I did not try to get my brother
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you didn't try to kill Joshua you're telling me the truth I just tried to him just pick him up
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that's all because he was too heavy crystal said I needed to go get Joshua trying to pick up a child that's really
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almost as big as you is kind of hard so I'm trying to walk down the steps just able to hold him so he doesn't fall
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Crystal looked and she said put him down Carolee put him down put him down I eventually put him down and she's like
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you try to kill him didn't you and I said no I was trying to pick him up so he doesn't fall because he was sliding
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off my hands and she's like no you were trying to kill him and she kept saying it and saying it and I said yes
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so I just I finally said yes I went to psychiatrist as a psychiatrist and I remember Chris to say just
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remember we wanted to kill Joshua I said okay I will tell him

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  • 85
    Most shocking
  • 80
    Most dramatic
  • 80
    Most intense
  • 80
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Episode Highlights

  • Descent into Danger
    Carolee's behavior escalates as she attempts to harm her brother.
    “I just started screaming put him down”
    @ 02m 01s
    November 19, 2022
  • Voices in Her Head
    Carolee reveals she hears voices that compel her to dangerous actions.
    “she says when the voices tell her to do something she has to do it”
    @ 02m 23s
    November 19, 2022
  • A Troubled Child
    The doctor confirms Carolee is a serious risk to others, including her brother.
    “this child I would consider to be a homicide risk”
    @ 02m 45s
    November 19, 2022

Episode Quotes

  • I mean at all our knives were disappearing.
    This little girl was once adopted — only to be brought back to Russia
  • she says when the voices tell her to do something she has to do it.
    This little girl was once adopted — only to be brought back to Russia
  • this child I would consider to be a homicide risk.
    This little girl was once adopted — only to be brought back to Russia
  • I just tried to pick him up, that's all.
    This little girl was once adopted — only to be brought back to Russia

Key Moments

  • Adoption Journey00:45
  • Voices Emerge02:16
  • Homicide Risk02:45
  • Love and Loss03:16
  • Confession04:50

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