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[Music] forsters conmen whatever you want to call them ultimately they're looking to
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get your money it's all about greed some of the cases that I've worked included the biggest fraud in history
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the Bernard madeof case I'm Steve garfinkle I'm a [ __ ] FBI agent the made of scheme you know over
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the the life of the scheme there was over 170 billion dollar 170 billion I mean that is a huge
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amount of money I worked the Sam Israel Bayou hedge fund case it was a 4 $1 million
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[Music] case and Andrew Kissle which was a $40 million case exclusivity is something
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that all you know Ponzi schemers seek he's not going to take everybody's money he just only wants to take
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yours you know if you would Google Andrew Kissle you would find that he was the president of a you know real estate
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Management Group and an owner of apartment buildings by all appearances he looked very
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successful I mean Andrew was a liar he was a thief he wasn't stealing from people as much as he was defrauding
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Banks he didn't you know stick a gun in your face but he uh was doing it with a paper and a pen Andrew kle was one
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complicated guy I'm Philip Russell I was Andrew Kell's attorney he was a very good
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father to his children he was a good friend to some of his friends uh and he was the worst thing that ever happened
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to his investors and to people that trusted him with money he stole money that was something that he didn't
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seem able to control he wanted a bigger car he wanted a bigger boat he wanted to
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be out in front they always think they're going to get away with it eventually the whole thing is going to
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uh you know collapse it was a uh Monday morning I my phone rang and it was a prosecutor from
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the US attorney's office she said it's a Kissle and I said suicide and she said no homicide he been
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murdered the first thing I thought was who did it he had enthusiastic motivated enemies
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lots of them follow the money [Music] [Music] [Music] Greenwich Connecticut one of the
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ritziest ZIP codes in the nation some of the richest wealthiest people in America
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live in grenwich and you know Andrew wanted to play the part it's where 46-year-old Andrew kle hoped to make his
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name in real estate instead in 2006 he became the community's most infamous murder victim I was
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shocked I was stunned Phil Russell Andrew's attorney says his client was just days from pleading guilty to bank
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fraud in court it was a complete surprise uh that this would happen to him this is a man who had hurt a lot of
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people but it was money and for a bank fraud case to have this type of violence is just unusual
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[Music] Andrew was found dead on Monday morning April 3rd 2006 he and his family were in
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the process of moving Andrew had stayed behind in their rented Mansion the movers discovered his
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body I went up there and the crime scene unit was up there police brought in FBI
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special investigator Steven garfinkle to identify Andrew's body how often are you asked to ID the body
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of a homicide I'm a white col guy this was the only time this happened in my uh career Kell's body was in the basement
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the first time I met Andrew kle was when I saw him Ling there in his Boiler Room
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Greenwich police detective Pascal arino it was bound and gagged uh there was a lot of blood all over the concrete floor
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Andrew hands and feet were bound he was blindfolded and stabbed multiple times I
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believe the final blow may have been to the jugular he bled out he bled out a lot pretty awful way to die very brutal
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no one wants to die that way there was no sign of a struggle and no forced entry police quickly concluded this was
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not a random crime Andrew kle they discovered had a long list of enemies he told me a lot of people hate me
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Carlos truo Andrew's longtime driver and personal assistant says his boss may have had a
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premonition he he told me many times you know a lot of people you know when to kill him Andrew Kell's violent death
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brought to an end a life once brimming with promise he grew up in New Jersey the
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oldest of three children in an upwardly mobile family he came from uh a good family a loving
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family you know an educated family carol Horton dated Andrew's kid brother Robert
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in high school and knew all the kles I never saw any problems I saw a happy family their father bill kle was a
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successful businessman who had high expectations for his sons tough on the boys yeah yeah he was he sat down rules
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and expected them to be followed do you think things came quite as easily for Andrew as they came for Rob no I think
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Andy worked a little harder he had a very monotone personality type as opposed to Rob yeah who was just very
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garious very loving very outspoken there were two completely different people they were night and day night and day
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this house is uh the house where the kles grew up in right here Danny Willam Williams lived just around the corner
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well I remember playing basketball on this driveway we'd also play whiffle ball here every
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day and games of Monopoly where the brothers chose the very roles they would later assume for real Robert the future
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financier if it was Monopoly he had to be the banker always always and Andy would have to be the real estate
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guy even as a Young Man Andrew was already building an image he always wanted to impress he liked to show off
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what he had you know um status he likeed to show status by 1990 Andrew was an upand cominging real estate developer in
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New York City he was successful financially when he started and he had a nice life sort of laid out in front of
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him all he had to do was stay on the path he had married Haley Wolf a financial analyst from a prominent
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family who had been a world champion skier 10 years later he had it all two children a ski house in Vermont and an
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apartment in a New York Co-op where he served his treasure everybody kind of wanted to
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kiss up a little bit to Andrew so I got the impression Andrew was pretty important Andrew soon had his hand and
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cash in everything horses an olive oil business he even invested in a play Brian howy produced it I thought he had
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good taste which which I was flattering to me on a on a creative level Andrew spared no expense to amuse himself and
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his friends he was generous and was living large 85 90t yacht beautiful couple jet skis on
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it and he didn't have just one car no like 30 some cars that seemed like a guy guy who was looking for things to do to
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have fun with his money like he couldn't spend it fast enough as Andrew's spending and behavior spiraled out of
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control some friends blamed his actions on a tragic event 8,000 miles away in Hong Kong it's an unbelievable tragedy
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it's just lightning striking twice in the same place [Music] the competitive Kissle Brothers Had Each
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found success Andrew was a real estate developer in Greenwich Connecticut his younger brother a highflying investment
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banker in Hong Kong by 2003 Robert was one of maril Lynch's top guys in Southeast
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Asia he was one of the best out there and he loved his job Frank Shay was Robert's friend and he was successful
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very he was earning Millions Robert his wife Nancy and their three children lived in a sprawling apartment in a
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luxury complex overlooking Hong Kong Nancy seemed very happy she always tried to please R she was always very proud of
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what he achieved neighbor Trudy Samra became a close friend on the outside world it appear she had the perfect life
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but in early November 2003 Robert suddenly disappeared she said to me something terrible has happened she sounded
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distraught she sounded very upset a colleague at work reported him missing police went to the Kell's apartment to
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investigate when they searched the family storage unit they found boxes of bloody items and a rolled up carpet and
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what in fact was inside that carpet right Kell's body Robert Kell had been bludgeon to
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death his head bashed five times and police investigators quickly focused on Nancy within hours she was arrested and
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charged with murder they said that she had murdered him I I just couldn't believe that not the ncy I knew she
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wouldn't do that as investigators soon discovered Robert Kell's life much like his older
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brother Andrews in Connecticut was nothing like it appeared in Robert's case it was during
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the sards epidemic when his wife and children fled to Vermont that he began to suspect something was wrong with his
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marriage Robert hired private investigator Frank Shay to spy on Nancy Rob thought there was a something going
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on between Nancy and someone he was right says Shay Nancy was having an affair with a local TV equipment
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installer Rob Kell was devastated all he wanted to do was get his marriage back together Nancy returned to Hong Kong but
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Robert discovered she was still secretly in touch with her lover the last time that you talked to Robert kle was he
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planning on obtaining a divorce yes he said that the marriage was over according to friends he intended to
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tell her that on November 2 2003 the night he was murdered the case captivated Hong
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Kong Albert Wong covered the story for the English language daily the standard I think it really hit home with
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a a lot of the people in Hong Kong well that's about it it was a glimpse of a world that they they're not
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used to Robert Kell's stylish blonde wife was almost unrecognizable when she went on trial in 2005 Nancy Kissle was
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always dressed in black a typical widow look as it were the prosecution's theory
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was simple they say it was a coldblooded murder this was no accident there was evidence Nancy had been researching and
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stockpiling various sedatives and they had a witness just hours before Robert was murdered Andrew tanzer a journalist
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at neighbor says Nancy made the two men a special milkshake it had some strange taste some taste which I could not
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recognize do you think that Nancy kle added drugs to your milkshake oh of that I'm pretty
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certain in fact an autopsy would reveal five different drugs in Robert Kell's System including Rohypnol known as the
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date rape drug what do you believe happened the night that Robert Kissle was killed I think that he was drugged I
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think that he went into his bedroom I think he passed out and I think Nancy kle then took a bronze statue and
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murdered him but when Nancy took the stand she told a different story she said it was
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self-defense she really thought he was going to kill her he came at her with a baseball bat there was a struggle and
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it's at this point that she she just swings back and he kind of sits back and looks at his looks at the blood and says
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you [ __ ] and then at that point charges at her with the baseball bat I'm going to
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kill you I'm going to kill you and she said then she just blanks out Nancy testified that for years Robert had
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subjected her to physical and sexual abuse Trudy Samra remembers seeing suspicious injuries for the first time
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she had a rib injury and one time we had a girls night here and she came in and I
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said wow what happened to you and she had a big big blue eye but Nancy never told her she was being abused and Frank
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Shay doesn't buy ny's defense do you believe that Robert Kell abused his wife now not for a second in fact given the
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amount of drugs that were in his system he was defenseless there is no way he could have defended himself no less
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attack somebody it took the jury 8 hours to convict Nancy Kell of murder she was sentenced to life in a Chinese
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prison Andrew kle was clearly devastated by the loss of his only brother but things were only going to get worse
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[Music] what happened to his brother really affected Andrew tremendously Andrew Kell's friend Brian howy says Andrew
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never recovered from his brother's death his life just went on a different course
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from there and it just changed where his priorities lay he said it was more about I need to
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be happy right now Andrew was trying to buy his happiness he was shelling out you know $50,000 for his friends to have
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a good weekend indulging in extravagant parties on his yacht fully stocked with any kind of food and drink and crew and
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everything he wanted but where was the money coming from while Robert had played by the
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rules Andrew for years had been taking illegal shortcuts he began in 1996 in New York City where he and his family
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lived in that luxury highrise where Andrew was the building's treasure you just don't think your neighbor is going
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to steal from you Peter Chamberlain new to the board of directors was puzzled by
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some of Andrew's reports no one could account for how a hallway project could could cost $2 million or a million
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dollars all the receipts all the bills all the contracts were in Andrew Kell's possession an investigation revealed
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that Andrew had secretly transferred building funds into his own accounts he was caught red-handed
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he left the building in a very unsophisticated way jumping in the service elevator and out the garage door
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literally running down to Second Avenue to avoid legal action Andrew agreed to pay back the nearly $4 million he owed
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we all wondered well where did somebody who had to steal $4 million come up with
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$4 million to give back for Andrew kle the answer was simple another scam and in another state
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Connecticut he moved his family to grenwich where he had been buying and developing expensive homes as
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Investments Greenwich is probably the wealthiest town in Connecticut in terms of value of property Nancy Walkley a
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title search attorney had processed some of the mortgage applications Kissle submitted to develop those multi-million
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dollar properties in 2005 while reviewing routine paperwork she noticed something
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fishy about the signatures the a in the Andrew looked very similar to the A and the first name
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of the gentleman who signed that asoria Federal Mortgage a quick check with the bank confirmed her fear the color must
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have drained out of my face I thought oh my I can't believe what I think is happening is happening it appeared that
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Andrew had forged a bank executive signature indicating a $5.5 million mortgage was paid off when it wasn't had
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you ever run into anyone doing that in the past never Walkley stopped the deal and as it turns out it wasn't the first
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time Andrew had bued banks with forged documents he had been doing it for years here's a Wanita signature from November
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03 here's one from January 04 this is totally different the FBI was called Steve
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garfinkle led the investigation he'd borrow money file a fake release of that saying that he no
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longer owed that money then would borrow again they would think the land was free
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and clear correct and then he'd go to a third bank and get a mortgage do the same thing so how much money was Andrew
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Kell able to obtain by this kind of fraud was over $30 [Music] million I was impressed with this scheme
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in the Simplicity how easy it was to do it was the era of easy money the banks want to lend the money they want these
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deals to go through they do and when they think they have a viable successful Builder borrower they will fall over
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themselves to lend money this plan had to crash and burn at some point facing federal fraud charges Andrew sought
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advice from attorney Phil Russell he described to me what had gone on and I told him yeah you're in trouble he was
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upset he was caught No Remorse no uh self- flatulation none of that but Russell says Andrew did feel remorse and
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was willing to come clean he knew it was wrong just not completely clean wait a minute so was Andrew Kell trying to con
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the FBI yes the FBI uncovered another multi-million dollar scam in another state he was a Serial fraudster he just
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engaged in one fraud after another this time it involved apartment complexes in New Jersey Here Andrew kle had ripped
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off his investors by forging their signatures secretly selling the properties and pocketing all the
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profits some people put their entire retirement savings into this uh limited partnership somebody put all their Ira
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money in but in this scheme the investors he was ripping off were people he knew his father-in-law and dead
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brother's estate each invested half a million dollars the people in New Jersey didn't
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know that these properties had been sold but what he did was he continued to pay
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them accordly dividend and what was their reaction to find out that Andrew kle had been ripping them off all those
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years well they felt totally you know betrayed what kind of guy can do something like that just continually
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do it and go on with his life a very troubled guy while Andrew's material world was
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crumbling his personal life was already in shambles his wife Haley discovered he
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had forged her signature to get a fraudulent loan on their ski house he was cheating her and cheating on her
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with other women she knew that he was having Affairs and she wanted him followed according to private
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investigator veto kuchi who says he met with Haley a year before Andrew was murdered I said well you know Haley I
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have to tell you I've seen a lot of cases I've seen a lot of couples go back together and she looked at me and she
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just said I want him dead I wish he was dead Haley didn't need any Kleenex trust
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me she didn't need any Kleenex that day Haley didn't hire kuchi but in 2005 she sued Andrew for divorce and7 million
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there was no love loss there this was not a a friendly Divorce by the first weekend in April 2006 Andrew's family
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was gone he was alone under house arrest wearing an electronic ankle bracelet and
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just days away from admitting his guilt and going to prison for bank fraud everybody like him nobody want to talk
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to him anymore except for his loyal assistant of six years Carlos troio why did you stay with him I love this guy
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and I own a lot to him he help me a lot on Sunday April 2nd just before 6:00 p.m. Carlos went to see his boss and
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what was his mood no she's he's happy making him the last known person to see Andrew Kell alive 14 hours later Kissle
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was found dead Carlos are you worried that if the police don't get a suspect that at some point they may arrest you
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yeah I worry every day so worried he hired attorney Lindy erso Andrew Kissa had a lot of enemies
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but Carlos Shirley wasn't one of them he would have to be the probably the coolest customer you'd ever see if
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he really had any involvement in this he says he loved them but you know friends uh sometimes uh kill each other
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too this guy was a decent hardworking guy all the guy wanted to do was work that's
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all he wanted to do he's the person who would least want to see Andrew Kell dead Carlos tro was the last known
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person to have seen Andrew kle alive so the Colombian immigrant who was his driver and confident became the prime
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suspect in his murder did you kill Andrew Kissle no I didn't they decided on the Colombian helper early on and
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they reverse engineered their entire investigation to focus on him defense attorney Lindy erso says Greenwich
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Police didn't fully investigate other possible suspects like the dozens of wealthy investors swindled by kle we
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know Haley Kell's father was one of the biggest losers in that scam he lost about a half a million dollars and Haley
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herself had told people including her sister-in-law that she wanted her husband dead once they decided that the
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wife had an airtight Alibi as they said they turned their attention to Carlos and that's where it stayed Carlos
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certainly seemed to have nothing to hide did the police ask for fingerprints yeah
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did they ask you for DNA DNA did you give it to him I give it to him he allowed investigators to search
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his car his residence a storage unit he had rented he even took a polygraph which he was told he failed at this
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point I feeling like a suspect like a criminal they try me like a criminal I felt Carlos was a very smart calculating
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individual but you couldn't charge him no lead investigators Pasqual arino and Pier Angelo cordelli lacked evidence and
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the investigation stalled for more than a year prosecutor Paul forensic there was really no viable case against Carlos
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until um when true was was uncovered and that broke the case what broke the case was a new
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witness Lenny tro a 21-year-old Petty thief and Carlos's own cousin Lenny told investigators that Carlos paid him
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$11,000 and a computer to commit a murder he told us hey that computer came from Carlos trilo that uh that computer
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was given to me as payment toward killing his boss but why would Carlos jio want to kill his boss a bizarre
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theory was circulating that Andrew kle broke and headed to federal prison enlisted his faithful driver to have him
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killed a suicide For Hire One Last scam so that Kell's children could collect on
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his $15 million life insurance policy if Andrew kle had taken a shot one shot to
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the head I I might have I might think that there was some to that claim prosecutor Paul forensic doesn't buy it
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at all he points out that Andrew Kell's hands and feet were tightly bound with plastic ties that he had been stabbed
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five times it was a painful death no one would want to go the way he went forensic has no doubt that Carlos was
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involved Andrew Kell would not have let anyone in the house that he didn't know whoever killed him he knew I have no
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doubt that it was Carlos tro that's why says detective arino Andrew kle was blindfolded and gagged it's a
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personal reason you you just don't want to hear him and you don't want to look into his eyes when you're killing him
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because you usually know that person investigators still didn't know the motive but they did have enough
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evidence they arrested both Carlos and his cousin and finally on November 30th 20
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4 and a half years after Andrew kle was stabbed to death Carlos tro went on trial he was charged with murder for
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killing kle and attempted murder for planning it the star witness against him his now 24-year-old cousin how important
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is lonard tro to the state's case against Carlos he is the state's case we can't
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show you Lenny's testimony the judge wouldn't allow it to be videotaped but his attorney Mark Sherman says Lenny
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only helped Carlos plan the murder he didn't actually do the killing Lenny had an alibi he was at work that very early
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that morning in Wester Mass hours away from Greenwich Connecticut in return for his testimony Lenny got a deal 20 years
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in prison instead of life without Lenny Trill I had no I had no case against Carlos uh if he did not cooperate Carlos
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was going to walk walk walk out the door defense attorney Lindy erso says having
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his own cousin testify against him puts Carlos in a very tough spot it would take a minor miracle to overcome that
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hump with this 20-year stupid deal that his cousin took he goes to trial and loses he's going to get life the case
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against Carlos is circumstantial but damaging they bought stuff they planned it they discussed it money was exchanged
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there were 52 phone calls between the cousins during a 4 and a half month period they didn't have any any
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interaction but for the planning and conspiracy of this murder Lenny says he made two trips to Connecticut to meet
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Carlos and there are Amtrak and motel receipts attached to the guest card was an original receipt indicating that the
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uh room charge had been charged to a Master Card in the name of Carlos trilo but why would Carlos use his own credit
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card if he was using this trip as part of a surveillance to to plan a murder stupid things all the time everybody
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makes a mistake when they're committing a crime during one of those trips Lenny says they went to this Home Depot and
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bought plastic cable ties like this one this is one of those things that only the killer or Killers would have
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known and how close are is this type of uh cable tie to what was used on Andrew kle this is the exact same make model as
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the one used on Andrew kle how would he have known all that the fact that he was
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able to describe um the cable ties and where they were bought was was Major and it turns out there may have been a
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motive after all Carlos tro had always been the trusted Aid living on the fringes of Kell's lavish
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life there is a wi trans funds transfer of $150,000 the account of Carlos a trilio bank records show that when the
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feds Froze all of Kell's assets Carlos and other tro family members helped him launder money through their personal
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bank accounts in the process more than $200,000 of Andrew's money mysteriously disappeared maybe the trusted Aid wasn't
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so trustworthy none of that money was found to have been returned to kle he was murdered Just 4 days before
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he was scheduled to formally plead guilty to bank fraud did Andrew kle threaten to turn
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Carlos into the feds if he didn't return the money I firmly believe the the motive of
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Andrew most likely was going to roll on Carlos's entire family tree and you think it was money that was
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the motive well money money and of course uh the fear of going to jail sure people have killed for a lot
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[Music] less attorney Lindy erso has been fighting for Carlos tro for more than 4
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years and he's feeling the pressure obviously you know I'm up against it but I still feel
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good at the end of the day it's just another trial yeah but what's at stake here the stakes are huge but the stakes
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are always huge you know I mean whether it's 15 years 20 years or life I mean it's a long time for somebody but the
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pressure the stakes are that much higher when you really believe your client's innocent since there's no physical
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evidence tying Carlos to Andrew Kell's murder the state is C on their star witness the biggest evidence against
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Carlos is Lenny that's the only evidence against Carlos and erso says Lenny tro is a liar who made up this entire story
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do you believe Carlos even attempted to hire him at all not in the least not in the least not for a split
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second erso claims Lenny implicated Carlos to keep his family from being harassed by law enforcement but prosecut
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Peter Paul forensic scoffs at that why would you implicate yourself uh in a murder why would anyone do that I
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believe Carlos was involved Steve garfinkle who now handles investigations for an international security company
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says Lenny's story is too detailed to be made up it's a believable story and generally believable stories are true
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why would he plead guilty and agree to go to jail for 20 years years it was not true that's a heck of a hurdle to
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overcome so to establish Reasonable Doubt erso plans to poke holes in the story and make the jury question Lenny's
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credibility he takes a little bit of the truth and he spins it into a Fantastical
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story those 52 phone calls between the cousins record show it was Lenny making most of those calls if Carlos was hiring
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him to do the murder you would expect Carlos would be the one calling him but what about Lenny's most damaging
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claim that he and Carlos bought plastic ties at Home Depot it turns out the receipt doesn't match the date that
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Lenny told police he was with Carlos in Connecticut this guy has no credibility I mean zero he lies and lies and lies if
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Lenny were lying um there's no way he would know all of this information there were too many specifics that he gave us
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which were never reported which he could not have possibly [Music] known after a 10-day trial now the heart
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starts beating because this man's life is in our hands the case goes to the jury and we go around the room and say
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what do you think and where are you and everybody would give their you know we would take we would take votes all the
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time guilty it all came down to Lenny's testimony and if who believed Lenny's testimony who
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didn't not guilty it was not proven Beyond a reasonable doubt that the two of them purchased those zip ties not
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guilty I live in Norwalk I we own cable ties how do I not know that that's not me buying it that day there was no proof
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that that was actually Carlos buying them guilty did he just make up this story plus he and Carlos while they're
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related they haven't talked each other in years and all of a sudden they make 52 phone calls together I personally
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firly believe that something was going on that they were plotting something this guy Lenny he plad guilty
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to this crime and if he wasn't involved at all why would he sign that paper why would he say okay I'm guilty put me in
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jail for 20 years when it comes down to it it's not about what you believe or what you even feel in your gut the
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evidence has to be there to support Beyond a reasonable out and you have to apply the
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law after 4 days the jury finally comes back the first charge murder could send Carlos to prison for life okay in the
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case of State versus trilo have aged upon a verdict as to count to we have being the foreman he had me stand up and
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Carlos is right there and the guy is just and I'm trying not to look at him we saw the hands drop and the hands
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started shaking um you know we knew that it was going to be very emotional for him St versus trilo would say you Mr for
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person inant not guilty not guilty of murder Carlos uh finally cracked showed some real emotion you told Carlos it was
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going to take a minor miracle to get him off on these charges is that what happened uh not
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quite I wouldn't call it a minor miracle I would say it was a when we pulled one
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out against some heavy odds but I don't think it's a minor miracle there's still
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the charge of attempted murder but on this the jurors were deadlocked I think the evidence is not there as it was
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presented which means Carlos isn't off the hook yet Paul forensic wants to retry him I never want to give up and I
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and I felt that we did have a strong case on the attempt but there will be no new trial three months after Carlos was
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acquitted a murder the man who said he loved Andrew Kell agrees to plead guilty to attempted
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murder Carlos tro has been saying for 5 years he was innocent and then he goes in front of a judge and takes a guilty
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plate yeah well he's still saying he's innocent I mean it's clearly just a decision of practicality it would have
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been a crazy decision to go to trial if convicted Carlos tro faced 20 years he's
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agreed to take six years uh in jail uh with credit for time served which which means he'll only spend three more years
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in prison you know he got off easy but he didn't get away with he didn't get away with murder he is now a convicted
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felon so we we get satisfaction from that uh there there is Justice Andrew kle who had so much in life died with
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nothing not even all the answers do you think we'll ever really know what happened that night I really don't know
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it's still kind of a mystery it is a mystery [Music]