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today is February 13th 2018 uh we are currently at the Sten County Sheriff's Office conference room
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present is Carrie n Ridder and also her attorney uh the time now is 10:58 a.m. at what point does your dad first
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approach you with this plan um it was him and I we were home he was saying like that he was going to kill himself
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but he brought up that he was that there was this other option kind of thing um where he
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would he wanted to kill my mom first bite oh Carrie don't push the bib up Carrie is doing a good job the story of
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my eyes is about Lloyd and Michelle and there's the door and there's my husband he was such an attentive
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[Laughter] father wow I thought he was a really amazing person he's very charismatic
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shows a lot of care car is too cold to be happy Michelle is truly a brilliant [Music]
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person she's got a wonderful sense of humor and this great wit what's your favorite toy outside Carrie uh my baby
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swing your baby swing my first impression was that they were sort of like a very perfect ideal family and
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they were really good at putting up that front but over time I sort that perception sort of started to
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change I was Michelle's lawyer her husband had filed for divorce Michelle was surprised that he
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filed for course she was a stay-at-home mom she had done everything she thought she could do to make him and the family
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happy carry was at RIT she was uh set a graduate in another year she says a dad came to her I can't afford to pay the
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bills I can't afford to pay your mother there's no way out I have to kill myself
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I'm sorry you guys have to go on without me or I got Plan B here which was killing my mom
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Cho he made you choose i1 Center had something strange happening at a uh at a friend's house I
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thought I saw the mother standing in the stairway but she's motionless and I could see through the
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stairs and see that somebody was clearly at the bottom of the stairs and they looked like they needed some sort of
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help [Music] did you ever think this case would go the way it did no upate we're out with a male subject
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on the top floor of the Spring Street Garage is he's on the ledge do you have live video of this up
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there we just don't have cases like this where where this level of pervasive evil
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trickles through an entire life and then ends in such a horrific event