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[Music] a dark object looms over the city of light the Eiffel Towers lights are off
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out of respect for victims of the worst attacks in France since World War II the
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city streets eily empty all day similar to the scene in Boston after the marathon bombings both means in stark
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contrast to the chaos and Carnage that shattered the French Capital Friday night this marks the first coordinated
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ISIS attack in the west joining us now is Michael Morell a former deputy director of the CIA and CBS News senior
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National Security contributor Michael good evening I want to ask you in two weeks time we have had three attacks
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that we believe were incited if not organized by ISIS the Downing of the Russian airplane the bayout bombing and
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now these attacks in Paris are we underestimating isis's capabilities Nora I don't think it's possible to overstate
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the significance of what's happened here in the last two weeks um the Downing of
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The Airliner first the only the third time that a bomb has brought down an airliner in a quarter century and as you
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as you mentioned um this appears to be the first Isis directed attack in the west the second largest terrorist attack
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in the west since the Madrid bomb Bings um this is very very significant I mean Isis has said they want to be a global
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terrorist organization how can we deny that they've succeeded um so I think they are succeeding um and what that
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says to me Nora is that our strategy to defeat them our strategy to degrade them
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is simply not working um one of the responsibilities Nora of um an intelligence official is to be able to
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look the president in the eye and tell him that his policy is not working and I think we've reached that point I mean
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you've helped lead the CIA what needs to be done one of the things that we have to look at Nora is is how did they how
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were they able to move these operatives from the Middle East at least some of them um to Paris and more importantly
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how were they able to communicate under the radar and I think that's going to be
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the most interesting issue because I think what we're going to find is what we've worried about for the last year is
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that there're they're using encrypted Communications they're taking their Communications putting commercial
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encryption on top of of it that we can't break and that the producers of those products will not give us the key for so
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I think this is going to open up an entire new debate about security vers privacy you mean companies like apple
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correct absolutely all right Michael Morell thank you for joining us welcome