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Child killer gets parole after 28 years behind bars

March 27, 2022 / 06:39

This episode discusses the case of Eric Smith, who was convicted of murdering Derrick Robie at age 13. Key topics include Smith's psychological development, his parole hearings, and the impact on the Robie family.

The episode features discussions about Smith's past actions, including his history of animal cruelty and feelings of victimization. Smith reflects on his motivations and the remorse he feels for his crime.

Family members of Derrick Robie express their fears and frustrations regarding Smith's potential release from prison. They share their experiences of receiving letters about Smith's parole hearings and the emotional toll it takes on them.

Smith's journey of rehabilitation is examined, with opinions on whether he has truly changed over the years. The episode raises questions about punishment versus rehabilitation in the justice system.

Ultimately, the episode concludes with thoughts on healing for both Smith and the Robie family, highlighting the complexities of forgiveness and moving forward.

TLDR

Eric Smith reflects on his murder of Derrick Robie and the impact on both families, discussing rehabilitation versus punishment.

Episode

6:39
00:00:00
[Music] You hear the 9 years to life. And I think back then everybody was focusing
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on the life side of it. We were still trying to get over our loss. Then I think we almost got settled in
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for a year or two. Then it hit us. They could decide that well, he's done his time and we're going to
00:00:51
let him go. That scares the hell out of me. [Music] It upsets me the fact that we have to
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beg to keep this killer behind bars. [Music] I know my actions have caused a terrible
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loss in the Robie family and for that I'm truly sorry. [Music] I don't see Eric Smith at all as a kid
00:01:42
who snapped. I see him as a kid who escalated. And he escalated from hurting animals
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starting at around age 11 and who eventually progressed to hurting a child. 2004
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was really the most frightening. This is somebody who goes into a tremendous amount of detail in terms of what he
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did. [Music] [Music] When you were doing that, was that something that gave you a good feeling?
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Answer. At the moment it did, yes. Question. Why do you think that was? Answer. Because of instead of me being
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hurt, I was hurting somebody else. Growing up, I was always picked on, disrespected, made fun of.
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Eric was tired of being the victim in his mind. And he wanted to see what it felt like to be the victimizer.
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There's a question, Mr. Smith. If you had not admitted to someone that you had done this, do you think it would have
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been a fair statement that you probably would have done it again? Answer. Yes. [Music]
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We always got a letter about three or four months prior to that. Ours always fell around Christmas.
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You know, here putting the Christmas tree up and we're reading this letter that here we go again.
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It just made me angry. [Music] The only thing that I can say to them is I'm not the same person.
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There's not a day that goes by in some way, shape or form that I'm like forced to remember what I did. I'm
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automatically thinking I killed Derrick and the pain that I caused Dale and Doreen Robie.
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The problem is how sincere is it versus how contrived or calculated it is. I certainly can't tell as I sit here. You
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can't? No. For us to have any real hope, he has to be accurate when he says, you know, I'm different, I'm self-aware,
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and I have every reason in the world to behave. [Music] You're starting to see some compassion
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from him for other people. So I'm seeing a little bit of hope from him. [Music] 2012.
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Parole denied. 2014, 2016, 2018, denied, denied, denied. [Music] Eric Smith at 13 is not the same person
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that he is at 31 or at 41. He has changed. We all change. You kind of go, what else can he do
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to prove that he is no longer a danger to society. Now we're at the point where it becomes is this about punishment or
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about rehabilitation? [Music] I understand why after so many years they decided to give him a chance.
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And that's fine. You know, for him and his family. [Music] I want to, you know, get married,
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raise a family, you know, hold down like, you know, a job, pursue the American dream.
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[Music] You know, he's been released, but in a way so have we. No more parole. I can get on with
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our lives. Now the true healing can begin.

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  • 75
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  • 70
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Episode Highlights

  • The Fear of Release
    The uncertainty of a killer's release haunts the victims' families. "That scares the hell out of me."
    “That scares the hell out of me.”
    @ 00m 55s
    March 27, 2022
  • A Changed Man?
    Eric Smith reflects on his past actions and claims he is no longer a danger. "I'm not the same person."
    “I'm not the same person.”
    @ 03m 45s
    March 27, 2022
  • Healing Begins
    With Eric's release, the victims' families feel a sense of freedom. "In a way so have we."
    “You know, he's been released, but in a way so have we.”
    @ 06m 22s
    March 27, 2022

Episode Quotes

  • That scares the hell out of me.
    Child killer gets parole after 28 years behind bars
  • I'm not the same person.
    Child killer gets parole after 28 years behind bars
  • You know, he's been released, but in a way so have we.
    Child killer gets parole after 28 years behind bars

Key Moments

  • Fear of Release00:55
  • Self-Reflection03:45
  • Healing Process06:22

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