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my name is Barbara AR onus uh I've been a good friend of Nick Nikki I call her Nikki uh Nicole for oh about 13 years
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now I'm David tzer I was a good friend of Nikki's for about five years before her uh death my name is Pamela Schaefer
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and I was Nikki's friend for about 10 years prior to her death how did you and Nikki meet in a program of alcoholic
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synonymous when she met David what did she tell you about this this man that she had
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met she said that uh he was the love of her life and that he she was going to have kids with him and be with him
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forever and tell me about the first time you met David what were your impressions
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that he was a different kind of a fellow I believe at the time they were engaged
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and we wanted to meet him and he sat out in the car and wouldn't come inside and
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there was like a house full of 15 women that were really wanting to to talk with
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him and he wouldn't come inside she'd called me a couple different times and one time she was in her
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room with the door shut she was in fear of her life because he had just slammed the computer thing down on her hand and
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she was afraid she was really afraid of his anger I went on a double date with Nikki
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and him and he picks the place and so you have people that are in Alcoholics Anonymous and he picks the brewery
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Downtown Seattle uh this Brewery restaurant he's sitting there drinking beers and you know like and most people
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won't do that like he didn't care how your feelings were he just it was all about him she was a different person
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when he wasn't around she was real guarded when he was around how do you mean it was like walking on eggshells
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you know to describe it you could see that he he he made all the rules and she followed him and what did she want in
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that relationship what was she hoping for with David oh just a life together with her husband to have kids just to be
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happy um I looked up to Nikki I mean she was a lot younger than me about half my
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age um but I really looked up to her she helped me tremendously to get through my
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alcoholism did you see this coming at all Barbara oh man not her death no um it was her
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eighth AA birthday we were all waiting for her to show up at the birthday meeting and she would have been right on
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time for that I'll tell you she'll be dressed up just to the hilt and just ready to talk and and to share her life
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of her sobriety because she was so proud of it this was 8 years of sobriety years
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sobriety which is an incredible celebration to have oh exactly yes