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my name is Steve mcwain and I've known Michelle Williams since around 2008 when I went to work for Greg I've got to know
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her quite well working out of his house in a business relationship and on a personal relationship he taught me
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everything that I know he could read something and it would be in his head you he had like a photographic memory he
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was good at what he did and um he passed on a lot of that knowledge to me and so
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you know I'll always be grateful to him for that once you were in his circle of friends uh he would do anything for you
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if I was down in the maluck I needed money whatever it was he would he would take care of his friends but then he
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also had the other side where um you know for a minor little thing that I did wrong or forgot to do something he would
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cuss you like like nothing and uh you know he would berate you I mean just verbally abuse you he did that with
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everybody I mean he did that with his kids with his wife uh with his employees I'd worked for him for 3 years and um I
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put up with that you know over those three years within months before he' died I I was literally praying that you
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know something would change because I hated going to work uh I I literally was in fear of making a mistake every day
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Michelle um I first met her when she was in the hospital she had just had Michaela she seemed to be a good mother
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a model wife they loved each other and it seemed like a pretty good marriage we were pretty close uh because of Greg
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being the common factor to us we kind of uh vented with each other about Greg and
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you know the way he was so through that we got to know each other you know pretty good I considered her a pretty
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close friend when it first happened I helped her get the business to where we could get our customers taken care of
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and and off to other companies so we were still pretty close there that time because of going through the grief of
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losing Greg But as time went on then you know I kind of started seeing another side of her where it seemed like she was
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always telling lies to us and U never knew what the truth was from her it was a sight I've never seen before um
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because she was almost a model wife and a model mother and so things did change after uh Greg had been killed