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"Please Don't Tell" | Full Episode

September 02, 2025 / 41:52

This episode covers the case of Vincent Simmons, who was wrongfully convicted of rape in 1977, and the subsequent fight for his exoneration. Key discussions include the testimonies of twins Karen and Sharon Sanders, the events leading to the crime, and the legal battles that ensued over the decades.

The episode features the twins recounting their traumatic experience in Marksville, Louisiana, when they were 14 years old. They describe the encounter with a man who forced them and their cousin Keith into a trunk, leading to their eventual identification of Simmons as their attacker.

Vincent Simmons was convicted based on their testimonies, but years later, new evidence emerged that questioned the integrity of the original trial. Attorney Justin Bonis took on Simmons' case, revealing inconsistencies in witness statements and a lack of physical evidence.

The episode highlights the emotional toll on both the victims and Simmons, as well as the complexities of the justice system. It culminates in Simmons' release after 44 years in prison, raising questions about guilt and innocence.

Ultimately, the twins express their ongoing pain and struggle, even as Simmons gains his freedom, illustrating the lasting impact of trauma and the pursuit of justice.

TLDR

Vincent Simmons, wrongfully convicted of rape, fights for exoneration after 44 years in prison, revealing deep trauma and systemic flaws in justice.

Episode

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[Music] I have lived 44 years with his face etched in my brain it was everything that you pray to
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God never happens to anyone for me it's really tough I'm I'm I'm struggling I'm struggling to do the
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interview at all we were at our grandparents house and Keith our first cousin came over
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asked us if we would come to his house to help him clean so we went to his house and when we were done he needed
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gas so we stopped at 7-Eleven and as we pulled up there was a um a man standing there he said well can you
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give me a ride instantly we knew something wasn't right but Keith tell him he would give him a
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ride I think we just cut off circulation in each other's hands we were squeezing
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our hands so tight right because you just have a gut feeling that this is not good he was telling us the directions on
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where to go which took us to little California road he told us to get out of the car he
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opens the trunk and he puts Keith in the trunk at that point he tell us to take off our clothes
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[Music] did you plan to tell anybody what happened no why because we were afraid
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he would come back and kill us when did the Twins actually go to the police I think it was about 2 weeks
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later a little bit more than 2 weeks you said the man was black yes did they ever give you a ride no did
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you ever meet them at a gas station no never I didn't rape Karen and Sharon sadness I don't know these
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people when I saw him in that lineup I didn't have to think twice when I looked at him I knew
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him he got convicted and received two 50-year consecutive sentences that's insane it's horrible it
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disgusted me there's no hairs no fibers no blood no sweat no Sean there's nothing Vincent Simmons is an innocent
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man who is railroaded by a racist system is it possible that you picked the wrong
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man no no when I close my [Music] eyes there's no other face that I see stop it stop it when are we going to
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talk about the facts why did we pick him why if it was Mr Simmons because it was
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Mr Simmons [Music] [Music] every time I talk about it makes me feel like I'm 14 again for identical twins
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Karen and Sharon Sanders life is broken into two part Hearts before May 1977 and after they say what Happened
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One Night that may changed everything the limitations it put on our life like with anxiety depression panic attacks
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scripp bling really is taken a lot from us back in 1977 the 14-year-old Twins were living
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with their grandparents in the quiet small town of Marksville Louisiana and for the most part they say they were
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happy there staying busy and enjoying the little things in life I was all about makeup and perfume and being
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prissy and Karen was more uh outside playing in the dirt this is true life was simple until it wasn't what makes it so
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difficult for you Karen 44 years later to even talk about well it's a lot happened that
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night the twins say it All Began May 9th 1977 when their cousin Keith Labour picked them up so that they could help
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him clean his house by the time they finished cleaning it was just beginning to get dark Keith was driving them home
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and that's when they say he stopped at that gas station and encountered a black man he walked up to the
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car and to Keith that he almost hit him and Keith you know did not and Keith was tell him he didn't want to fight and
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he said I don't fight I shoot the man said this the man said it instantly Karen went inside to pay for the
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gas and me and Keith were talking to this man and we exchanged names and he said said his
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name was Simmons the twins say any tension between Keith and the man soon lifted
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and that's why they say Keith agreed to give the man a ride we were like Keith you know don't and he's like it'll be
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okay it'll be okay but they say they knew it wasn't okay when the man directed them to that desolate area of
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little California road and threaten them he told us that before we could get a gun
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gun he would shoot us mhm which we did not have a gun so we knew he had a gun they say the man ordered them out of
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the vehicle and forced Keith into the trunk Keith's how old 18 so he got in the trunk yes he did he tell us to take
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off our clothes Karen started to run at that point and I yelled and she stopped he said this one's going
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to give me trouble and so he opened the trunk and he put me in the trunk with Keith and he had Sharon I took off my
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clothes told me to get in the back seat and I did and he told me how to lay and I did I can hear
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Sharon crying and of course I can't take it so I'm banging on the trunk and I'm banging and
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I'm screaming take me take me leave her alone take me take me Karen was back there making all kinds of
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commotion and things didn't work out for him with me sorry and he was very frustrated you
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could see it and feel it and he got very aggravated and told me to put my clothes back on
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and when you say things didn't work out for him what do you mean he tried to penetrate and was unsuccessful
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but at the time I was 14 I did not know he was unsuccessful I really thought you had lost your Virginia I had
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lost my virginity I had no clue afterwards Sharon say she was put in the trunk with Karen and Keith and
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then the man started driving we just found each other's hands and began to pray and then the car
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stopped and he said you out and pointed at you Karen yes he told me to lay in the back
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seat he uh he raped me then with Sharon and Keith still in the trunk Karen says the man just wanted
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to talk you like nothing had happened that we were like best friends that we were just hanging out and you went along
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with it just talking absolutely to keep him calm and how long did this go on for
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to me a lifetime he told me he came from a large family about where he had lived
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and all this and he had just gotten back from Texas she says when they stopped talking the man raped her again multiple
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times I remember like laying in that back seat and his chest I mean the he his heaviness on my chest and the sweat and
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it was just disgusting she says he then drove them to a local Cemetery where he got out of
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the car he opens the trunk and he lets them out he's going to let us go and he tell us if you tell anyone I know where
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y'all live I've Got Friends he said and I will come back and we all swore to each other that we would not tell a soul
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and I know they say just the fear of what might happen if they told kept them silent for 2 weeks until Karen says she
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couldn't keep it in anymore she says she confided in Keith's sister and I said but please please don't tell anyone
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please don't tell anyone she said I'm not going to tell anyone and it just unraveled from
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there the next day Keith's parents found out and soon Karen Sharon and Keith all
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ended up at the Sheriff's Office Karen and Sharon each gave statements reporting that they had been
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raped and less than 24 hours later on the morning of May 23rd 1977 25-year-old Vincent Simmons was taken
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into custody as he was walking down the street did you know Karen and Sharon Sanders never seen him before in my life
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[Music] [Music] it was May 23rd 1977 when Vincent Simmons was brought to the Sheriff's Office which used to be
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here on the second floor of the avo's Parish courthouse in Marksville and they took me and put me in a
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lineup Karen Sharon and Keith were all there to see if they could identify a suspect we're all three in the room but
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we're not all walking up to the window at the same time Keith goes first Keith writes the
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number down on a pad I walk up I look at him and I go to the pad I write his number down and then
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Sharon goes up to the window looks out and WR number down what number did you all write four four and then they
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said remember that oh my gosh yeah then they said to us y'all have all picked the same man that man they
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identified was 25-year-old Vincent Simmons he was from a big family in the next town over from
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Marksville and this wasn't the first time he found himself in the sheriff's office I didn't have a daddy you know so
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basically I grew up on my own looking out for my little sister I was doing wrong I was going in the
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stores just to get food to feed them Vincent was convicted of a home burglary at the age of 18 while incarcerated he
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escaped from the jail in Marksville he lived on the run in Texas for nearly 6 years until he came back to town shortly
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before that lineup and when I walked up to the window and I looked I had no second doubt I know
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exactly who rap me that night after Sharon Karen and Keith ided Vincent he says he was brought upstairs
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to the jail where he waited while an officer was writing something down I'm sitting on the chair and a handcuff when
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he gets to he say I want you to sign I said what is that he said this is a confession saying that you uh committed
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this crime I said what crime you know he said rap for those two white girls said I don't even know these
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white girls Vincent says when he refused to sign the confession the officer knocked him down and as they struggled
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another officer shot him boom I burn it through my chest you know and I fell on the floor when I woke up
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I'm in the hospital now the two officers involved tell a very different story they say
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Vincent grabbed one officer's gun and was pointing it at both of them when the second officer shot Vincent in the
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shoulder in self-defense whatever the truth Vincent was never prosecuted for that incident
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instead less than two months after he was shot he was brought to court to face Karen and Sharon less than 60 days after
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he was arrested Vincent went on trial is that a pretty rapid time in 1977 I would say for major cases they
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went to court quickly Charles Riddle was not the district attorney back then but he is
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now and he's very familiar with the details of the case what was the evidence against him the testimony of
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the witnesses the victims Karen Sharon and Keith all took the stand walk into a court room your
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parents everybody that loves you is sitting there and seeing him for the very first
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time we have not seen him since the line up and then seeing him face to face was
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really hard of course I had to put my hand on the Bible and swear to tell the truth nothing but the truth which is all
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I had anyway they all testified that on the night of the rape Vincent had told them
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his last name believe it or not all night long we called him Simmons he told us to call him Simmons at trial they all
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say semmons Simmons the man told us his name was Simmons what' you think then I thought they were
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crazy I actually thought they were crazy you mean to tell me I'm going to do something to y'all and let y'all know
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my name I'm going tell you who I am no that don't make sense man the jury got to see Keith's car and
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a photo that police had taken of Karen Sharon and Keith reenacting how they fit in the trunk when it was the defenses
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turn the Vincent took the stand I told the jury that I was innocent I didn't rape
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nobody Vincent's lawyers also called three Alibi Witnesses who claimed that Vincent was at a bar on the night of the
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alleged crime the bar owner said Vincent was there all night he got into a fight
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and police were called but the prosecution called a police officer who said the bar fight was on another
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night after a two-day trial I don't think they had much of a defense the jury sided with Karen Sharon and
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Keith Vincent Simmons was found guilty of two counts of attempted aggravated rape I was
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shot guilty I ain't did nothing when the verdict came back guilty unanimously how did that feel s
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relief we knew we were free Vincent was sentenced to two consecutive 50-year terms 100 years
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behind bars we thought we'd never have to face them again but Vincent refused to give up
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hope I wanted to prove that I'm innocent man I never know these people more than
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four decades later Justin bonis a newly mened lawyer from Brooklyn New York would become involved in Vincent's
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defense and was immediately skeptical of the prosecution's case I looked at the discovery I was like well everything
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they said at trial is a lie it's all a lie there's nothing that supports what they
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[Music] [Music] say generations of men have labored in the fields at Louisiana State
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Penitentiary it is the country's largest Maximum Security Prison built on the site of a former slave plantation called
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Angola you know we had to work 7 days a week till it get dark that's how Ang Goa
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was since the day that cell door closed behind him Vincent Simmons has been working to over turn his
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conviction in 1993 16 years after that guilty verdict he finally succeeded in getting a copy of the prosecution's case
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File mailman came and he gave me this big old envelope when I opened it up I man I was
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in shock inside that envelope were items that Vincent had never seen before including copies of the initial
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statements that Karen Keith and Sharon gave to police remember how all three testified at
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trial that they knew their attacker's name he told us to call him Simmons but as it turns out when they first spoke to
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the investigators they didn't say that defense attorney Justin bonus has since reviewed those statements when the girls
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initially went to police they didn't say the name Simmons No what name did they say they didn't give a name and bonus
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noticed something else in those statements Sharon used the n-word to refer to her attacker and said quote All
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Blacks look alike to me which she does not deny saying so what did you say when they asked you to identify the man I
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said all blacks look alike but still Karen Keith and Sharon all picked venson out of that lineup and bonus says he may
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know why this photo that was in the file appears to show the lineup look at Vincent he's the only one in handcuffs
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when you saw that lineup photo what' you think what I said this is crazy nuts highly suggested when you put the cuffs
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on them you're telling them that's who we want you to pick but Charles Riddle the current district attorney says that
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photo was taken after the twins ided Vincent they call it the lineup it was a photo of the lineup after he was
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identified and placed in cuffs but how do you know it was after because the girls told me that so when you picked
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him out of the lineup was he wearing handcuffs no he was not not at all and Karen says they initially
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didn't tell police the name Simmons out of fear I mean we were scared of him and
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see I don't know why I didn't I mean I think fear we we're afraid of him and there's another item in that file that
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bonus says is critical and was never seen at the trial it's this report from a doctor who also happened to be the
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local coroner he examined the Girls 2 weeks after the reported rape and he did not document any signs of sexual assault
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how big a deal do you think the coroner's report plays in this story massive and bonus says that report
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suggests Sharon was still a virgin the doctor wrote that her himman was intact but Charles Riddle says the report does
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not prove that the twins were not raped because the definition of rape is slightest penetration and the part about
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no sign of sexual assault after 2 weeks it's very probable that there would be no sign of
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sexual assault bonus thinks the jury should have had the chance to consider all of
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that at trial his attorneys they had nothing they went in there Flying Blind with their arms tied behind their back
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in a boxing match that's that's literally what it was so you're telling me the original statements that the
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girls and Keith gave to police where they could not identify this individual right that was never heard by the jury
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absolutely not and the medical report from the cour ER was never heard by the jury right and the lineup photo not seen
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by the jury no if the statements from the girls had been presented at trial right if the
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coroner's report had been known and presented at trial do you think Vincent still would have been found guilty no
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absolutely not back in 1993 when Vincent first got his hands on that evidence he made it
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his mission to get his case in front of a judge he filed numerous pleadings over
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over multiple years but no court ever ruled in his favor and not a single judge felt like there was enough
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evidence not the appell courts federal courts state courts Supreme Court Vincent was hoping that the parole board
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at the prison might have more sympathy so in 1997 20 years into his 100-year sentence he had his first
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hearing with him and it was all filmed as part of a documentary called the farm which profiled inmates at Angola
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Vincent showed them the evidence that his defense did not have at trial we didn't have none of this evidence none
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of this evidence was presented before the jury you the only one handcuffed in the lineup I'm the only
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one okay uh if yall step out we discuss the case Vincent hoped the board would rule
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in his favor years I come oh yeah he did but they would Mr Simmons after uh listening to
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testimony going over the reports the board has voted at this time to deny your quest
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Pro I was hopeless but I know the truth and no matter how many times they knock you down keep getting
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up almost 20 years later Justin bonis watched the farm documentary with his wife and we were shoed and she told me
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you know you should take this case she basically said you need to write him and it wasn't really uh a
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suggestion it was right him and that's what I did [Music] you're a Brooklyn guy you go down to
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Marksville I felt like my cousin Vinnie I mean it was like country okay by early 2020 Justin bonus had
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become Vincent Simmons lawyer he had just a year of experience under his belt and was warned that the odds were
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against him it's over like he doesn't have any more peels I was like nah that's not true it's never true
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absolutely not Vincent had been fighting unsuccessfully for decades to overturn his conviction all the while Karen and
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Sharon remain firm about his guilt we have no reason to lie why would we lie why would we let someone spend their
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life in prison if we even had the slightest doubt that it wasn't him not long after Vincent's ill fated parole
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hearing documentary cameras were rolling again in the late '90s when he and the twin agreed to a Reconciliation meeting
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it's where victims and offenders come together to try and heal we came today not to free you from your prison but to
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free us from our prison today I am closing the door to my pain I'm Letting Go when the time came
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for Vincent to speak he had questions my questions going to be directly based on your statement at you
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no we're not going there and that's when the meeting unraveled what are you doing here then since
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you're innocent what are you doing here y all putting here we did no a choice that you chose to make put you here okay
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I think we I think we've had enough I think think it's kind of going sour so maybe one day you can get out of
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your pain if you're misery they didn't let him speak cuz they don't view him as a human being
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bonus wanted to put a spotlight on the case and really dig deeper but he needed some help so he turned to Jason flum a
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recording industry executive known for launching the careers of Katy Perry Matchbox 20 and Lord among others flam
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is also a criminal justice Advocate and he hosts a podcast called wrongful conviction which has featured bigname
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guests like Kim Kardashian when I heard about Vincent's case I was just like this is another level had to do
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something about it flam featured Vincent's case on his podcast how could anyone get convicted on the basis of
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this this is a man whose life was stolen away from him and he gave Justin bonus money to go
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out and hire a private investigator in Louisiana named Brian Andrews Justin actually asked me to be the boots on the
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ground take statements gather information Andrews Tracked Down Diane prer the lone surviving juror from
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Vincent's trial and the only African-American on the jury turns out she says she never wanted to convict
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Vincent Prader was in her 20s at the time of trial and says she still remembers her reaction to the twins
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testimony when they told a story I'm like Ain't No Way in the world that happened like that put a black men in
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your court that time you didn't believe it because at that period in history you
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just couldn't see white people giving a ride to black people correct was there a
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lot of racism in Marksville yes it was it was in marsville was everywhere and she says the jury Foreman told her her
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vote wouldn't matter in 1977 Louisiana juries could convict a defendant with only 10 out of 12 voting guilty so say
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myself well it ain't going to do me no good to say none but I never never never beli vinon was
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kiled the private investigator also tried to talk to relatives of Karen Sharon and Keith with me right now that
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I'm speaking with he ended up conducting a videotaped interview with Keith's cousin Dana brouette and she told him a
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shocking story Dana said that Keith told her in a bar long after the trial that Vincent Simmons was never with them on
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little California road that night he came out and told me there was never a black
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man instead in a sworn affidavit Dana says that Keith told her he had consensual sex with one of the girls and
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and locked the other in the trunk he had gone down little California road and he locked Sharon in
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Trump and he said the sex between him and Karen was consensual he said but the other one was
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a little hell cat that's the one that put the scratches on his neck in the affidavit Dana said that Keith had
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scratches on his neck she told the private investigator that she believes Keith and the twins made up the story
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about a black man to explain away those scratches blew my mind the things that she
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said had Dana ever told anyone that to my knowledge I I don't think she had should have come forward a long time ago
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I really did think the man got released and Dana's allegations didn't stop there
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she also gave the private investigator a copy of a Facebook message exchange that
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she says she had with Karen in October 2020 Karen and Dana were talking about how Keith had allegedly made sexual
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advances toward female relatives we asked Karen about that you said I didn't realize how sick he was I thought it was
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only me I don't remember saying that yeah cuz that's the message from you so what did you mean by
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that okay we need to cut right now cut this can we cut for a second yeah yeah right then Karen said she was not
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ready to talk about that exchange with Dana but 2 weeks later in a follow-up interview with both her and Sharon she
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admitted that years before she says they were attacked when she was a child and Keith was a teenager something happened
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did you have consensual sex with Keith laort okay let's put it like this we were kids yes ma'am we
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experimented so yes how old were you when it happened I have I could not honestly I don't know 9 10 maybe and is
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this the first time you're saying this publicly yes it is but that has nothing to do with what Vincent did that's two
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separate incidents David think about it if me and Keith have had had consensual sex way way before now why is he locking
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Us in the trunk of a car why is he taking us down a dirt road but bonus believes they wanted to cover up what
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happened that night it gives motive for why they would lie it shows that Karen always was hiding something from day one
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Keith was 18 Karen was 14 so what do they do they blame a black man to be clear was Keith the
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perpetrator that night no he was a victim also Keith was a victim he was not he was a victim mhm he stayed in
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that trunk the whole time I went to Keith lebo's house to speak with him about all of
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this no one answered the door so later I called him hello Keith [Music] hello Keith this is David begno with CBS
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News when reached by phone Keith now 63 years old denied ever having sex with his cousin Karen he said they had just
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quote played around like children end quote and he also insisted that whatever had happened between him and Karen had
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nothing to do with what Vincent Simmons did that night that goddamn was guilty I
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don't give yeah he's a goddamn and you could put that on TV I ain't scared of them despite the allegations concerning
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Karen and Keith District Attorney Charles Riddle says he believes the right man was convicted I'm firmly
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convinced that he's guilty I don't believe that the cousin was the one but bonus was more determined than ever to
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see Vincent walk free and in April 2021 the district attorney made an offer that
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would allow for just that riddle said he felt like Vincent had done enough time Vincent could have walked right out the
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door but there was a catch Vincent would have had to been a sex offender though Vincent turned that down and said I'm
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not a sex offender I didn't do this I am innocent I'm not a sex offender what' you think when you hung up the phone I
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mean that's it we're going to war bonus kept fighting and in February 2022 he finally got a hearing where a
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judge would decide Vincent's fate once and for all the day of the hearing as Karen and
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Sharon made their way into the courthouse they paused to pray when Vincent Simmons arrived in a
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prison van he was carrying a Bible a group of supporters greeted him they were [Music]
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cheering V how are you feeling today really POS it you something you good going have
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cameras were not allowed in the courtroom as judge William Bennett delivered his
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decision what did the judge decide he decided to give Vincent a new trial because of the Constitutional violation
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that he didn't receive a fair trial Vincent's conviction was thrown out due to the evidence that he himself had
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obtained almost 30 years earlier and the fact that his defense team didn't even have it back in
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1977 judge Bennett made it clear though that he did not Place fault on any anyone for that instead he found that
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the speediness with which the case went to trial made it likely that the original district attorney on the case
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Eddie null didn't even have all the evidence himself at the time so just to be clear you believe that in
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1977 the police didn't turn over key evidence to the district attorney that's the only explanation feasible and
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logical after studying everything that I did that's it are you blaming the police
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no I don't believe anybody intentionally hid anything it's just the way it happened because it was fast in a court
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affidavit the original da Eddie null said he did not hide or deny Simmons any evidence nor did he prosecute him
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because of bias and he continues to believe that Vincent is guilty and he's not the only one that feels that way
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current District Attorney Charles rdle do you believe a man who was convicted at a trial that was not fair should have
00:36:57
ever served a day in prison illegally legally okay legally no but he did yes the judge decided that
00:37:08
okay let me tell you he deserved to serve the 44 years why because he's guilty judge Bennett was careful to say
00:37:17
he has no opinion on the guilt or innocence of vinon Simmons with his decision it was now up to district
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attorney riddle to decide whether he wanted to retry the case you stood up and said what I said that he
00:37:33
served enough time and that we're not going to prosecute him again in the eyes of the people and the constitu he is
00:37:40
presumed innocent and when Charles Riddle dismissed that case that presumption of innocence
00:37:47
carries you free brother you free you done so happy to see you I am so happy to see you God is good to you let me get
00:37:56
a picture all right Vincent is a free man but for Karen and Sharon nothing has changed he
00:38:07
went in guilty he's guilty now and guess what he he will die guilty so I'm I'm happy I got 44 years
00:38:18
all right let's go the twins say they accept the judge's decision but they are still hurt by it the legal system didn't
00:38:27
just failed him it failed us in many ways also while Vincent has his freedom they say they still don't have theirs
00:38:36
it's frustrating because no one sees our bars they don't see our prison we still
00:38:43
have our anxiety we still have our depressions we still have our fears our bars are real and if you look deep
00:38:52
enough you can see them judge Bennett is is sympathetic toward the women but he is confident in
00:39:00
his decision the case holds extra meaning for him because his father now deceased was one of the many judges who
00:39:08
denied motions filed by Vincent over the past years but that was before Vincent had gained access to the prosecution's
00:39:17
file he and I had talked about the Vincent Simmons case years ago and uh I know if he would be
00:39:25
here he today would have done what I did what's on your heart cuz I can see the emotion I did the right
00:39:40
thing to Freedom just hours after the judge delivered his decision and right before
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the sunet Vincent Simmons walked out of Angola he went in when he was just 25 years old and was released 3 days before
00:39:58
his 70th birthday love you man you too man later that night he shared a celebratory meal with his family and
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friends let's go to Freedom what's it like being out of prison oh man this it's a Jo that is unexplainable
00:40:22
really but with that Joy comes challenge it's going to take me a while oh got a phone adjusting to life outside Prison
00:40:31
Walls has proven to be difficult so much has changed since 1977 man new technology I'm just like a
00:40:42
little bab you got to learn what are the simple things that you enjoy now Brea the free air walking
00:40:55
outside basically it's freedom to just enjoy the [Music] moment 48 hours to miss it would be a
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crime were you at all prepared for what happened in this case [Music]

Badges

This episode stands out for the following:

  • 90
    Most shocking
  • 90
    Biggest twist
  • 85
    Most dramatic
  • 85
    Most heartbreaking

Episode Highlights

  • The Night That Changed Everything
    Karen and Sharon Sanders recount the traumatic events of May 9, 1977, that shattered their lives.
    “Life is broken into two parts: before May 1977 and after.”
    @ 04m 32s
    September 02, 2025
  • The Identification
    The twins and their cousin Keith identify Vincent Simmons in a police lineup, leading to his arrest.
    “We all picked the same man.”
    @ 13m 07s
    September 02, 2025
  • The Trial
    Vincent Simmons faces trial based on the testimony of the twins and their cousin.
    “I told the jury that I was innocent. I didn't rape nobody.”
    @ 17m 01s
    September 02, 2025
  • New Evidence Emerges
    Years later, new evidence raises doubts about the twins' identification of Vincent Simmons.
    “Everything they said at trial is a lie.”
    @ 18m 29s
    September 02, 2025
  • Reconciliation Meeting
    Vincent and the twins attempt to confront their past in a reconciliation meeting.
    “We came today not to free you from your prison but to free us from our prison.”
    @ 26m 36s
    September 02, 2025
  • Vincent's Fight for Freedom
    Vincent Simmons, wrongfully convicted, fights for justice with the help of advocates.
    “This is a man whose life was stolen away from him.”
    @ 28m 00s
    September 02, 2025
  • A New Trial Granted
    Judge Bennett grants Vincent a new trial due to constitutional violations.
    @ 35m 35s
    September 02, 2025
  • Vincent is Released
    Vincent Simmons walks out of prison after nearly 44 years, celebrating his newfound freedom.
    “Oh man, this is a joy that is unexplainable.”
    @ 40m 15s
    September 02, 2025

Episode Quotes

  • There's no other face that I see.
    "Please Don't Tell" | Full Episode
  • Every time I talk about it makes me feel like I'm 14 again.
    "Please Don't Tell" | Full Episode
  • I wanted to prove that I'm innocent, man.
    "Please Don't Tell" | Full Episode
  • This is a man whose life was stolen away from him.
    "Please Don't Tell" | Full Episode
  • I didn't do this. I am innocent. I'm not a sex offender.
    "Please Don't Tell" | Full Episode
  • Freedom just hours after the judge delivered his decision.
    "Please Don't Tell" | Full Episode

Key Moments

  • Fear and Silence02:11
  • Life Before and After04:32
  • The Lineup13:07
  • New Evidence19:33
  • Reconciliation Attempt26:36
  • Life Stolen28:00
  • New Trial Granted35:35
  • Freedom Achieved40:15

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