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December 14, 2024 / 02:04:44

This episode covers the case of Jasmine Harton, who was charged with the manslaughter of police superintendent Henry Jamaat. Key discussions include the events leading to the shooting, the investigation, and the impact on both families involved. The episode features insights from news reporter Sharice Hol, who has been covering the case since it broke in May 2021.

Jasmine Harton describes herself as more than just a wealthy socialite, emphasizing her roles as a businesswoman and mother. She recounts the night of the shooting, where she and Jamaat were alone on a pier, and she accidentally shot him. The episode raises questions about the nature of their relationship and the circumstances surrounding the incident.

Sharice Hol provides context about the community and the public's perception of Harton, highlighting the rumors and speculation that followed the shooting. The episode also touches on the legal proceedings, including the charge of manslaughter by negligence and the implications for Harton's life and family.

The narrative includes emotional testimonies from Jamaat's family, who believe he was murdered, and contrasts this with Harton's insistence that it was an accident. The episode concludes with the ongoing fallout from the incident and the unresolved questions that linger.

TLDR

Jasmine Harton recounts the night she accidentally shot police superintendent Henry Jamaat, leading to her manslaughter charge and public scrutiny.

Episode

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[Music] people perceive me as being a billionaire s and this entitled spoiled rich
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girl this wild crazy party girl that's hanging from Rafters that's not it at all
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I'm a business woman I'm a mother I'm a friend I'm a wife there are a few that think that I'm
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a murderer surely the crime of the young decade a respected senior officer dead he was hoping to be promoted to senior
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superintendent but the Lord Our God wanted to promote him to become an angel my brother he was playful
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hey he was a very happy person Henry jamot from everything we know was a very jovial guy he loved his family he loved
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Sports he loved music he go all the way for his friend Henry was my friend that was an accident terrible
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accident I it will haunt me for the rest of my life the shooting took place where
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at that dark these two people wind up on a lonely peir in the dark together why are
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they there I I remember saying you really need your gun just we're going right here to the
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pier and he's like I always have my gun and so he brought it with him the moon was beautiful so we just wanted to come
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sit by the pier put our feet in the water was there anyone else on that Pier besides the two of you no did you have a
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finger around the truck not that I thought I just remember trying to see next thing I know the gun
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went off he fell on top of me and all I could feel was warmth and I later then realized he was bleeding on me she feels
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this warmth you know when we talk about warmth we think about warm cookies or a blanket we don't think about the warmth
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of death didn't know if he was dead there's not a night that goes by don't dream about that incident
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and relive it people are wondering was this an accident was this murder Jasmine Harden was arraigned in
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the San Pedro magistrates court on a single charge of manslaughter by negligence my brother was shot behind
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the air execution style she should be charge for murder murder murder I'm not a murderer that's
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ridiculous miss Aron do you have anything to say my freedom is at stake my relationship with my children is at
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stake why won't you let me see the kids Andrew she gave so many stories so who knows when she's telling
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the truth [Music] [Music] I think a lot of people misjudge me her name is Jasmine Harton seen by
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many as one of the most wealthy and controversial people they don't seem my wholesome side in one of the most
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alluring places on Earth when I decided to come to bise I thought that I was moving from the cold
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North into to a paradise B is a tiny Central American Tourist Mecca that's also a Haven for the super rich where
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jet Setters and Beach comers rub elbows every day and it's where Jasmine 32 was Raising twins with her partner Andrew
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Ashcraft a real estate developer and Son of a British billionaire a woman with one of the most prominent names on the
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island is at the police station I've never had a story like this before Sharice how saw is a news reporter and
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anchor at Channel 7 in b and a CBS News consultant she has been covering the case since it broke on May 28th 2021
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reports tonight are that Harton was flattered in the officer's blood authorities detain Jasmine Harton after
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finding her dazed and drenched in blood on a deserted pier near her exclusive beachfront Resort home it's a mystery
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for which the Intrigue is escalating in the water was police super intendant Henry jamat with a fatal gunshot wound
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behind his right ear a man beloved by his five children and says his sister Cherry by the
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country he'd spent his life serving he had done a great job for the country of B we will purchase Shoes for some of the
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needy kids within the villages alone with a respected police officer dead and a wealthy powerful woman in a
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concrete jail cell there were rampant rumors about Jasmine Harton and Henry jamat were drugs or infidelity
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involved the speculation was fueled by reports that Jasmine's account of that night had changed according to channel 7
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the first account she told was the Fatal shot may have come from a passing boat why would she have ever told such a
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wild story about a boat after a jailhouse visit with a lawyer Harton admitted she fired the Fatal shot
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accidentally Harton was charged with manslaughter by negligence and eventually released on
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bail the things that are at stake right now is my relationship with my children my freedom my business my money my my
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character my reputation and my my life is is at [Music] sake tonight you will hear Jasmine
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Harton tell her side of the story it's a story that begins in her childhood she insists she was never a spoiled rich kid
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I think because I grew up the way I did all of that has prepared me for what I've just endured she says she grew up
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poor in Canada as one of nine siblings in a small farming Community do you remember being hungry as a child of
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course yeah many times Jasmine's mother Candice cleone says food was in such short supply she' trick a local dnut
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shop to give her stale pastries to feed her kids I went in and told them I was a
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pig farmer I needed the donnuts for my pigs the kids thought it was awesome she went to high school in A
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Hard Scrabble neighborhood of Kingston Ontario and set her sights on a career in dentistry hoping to help the
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needy I started to do dental missions and B I saw an opportunity to come down and do a mission here for
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Dentistry she arrived in bise in 2014 she set up shop on an exclusive island called amberr key and made a splash on
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the social scene acquiring a reputation as a party girl and in 2015 she met met someone who
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would change her life by then she was working as a realtor and he was a potential client there was something
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intriguing about his level of confidence it was Andrew Ashcroft I thought he was very clever
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very funny very witty Andrew is a son of Lord Michael Ashcroft a well-known conservative political figure in his
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native Great Britain who' built a billion dooll business Empire with extensive holding and B they reportedly
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have included ownership stakes in the phone company two of the biggest banks a TV station even the main
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Port once you learned that Andrew Ashcraft is the son of a billionaire how did that impact you in your relationship
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so I was curious about it were you in any way attracted to his wallet no but the potential I wanted to build
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something together I wanted us to be partners they got engaged in 2016 and the next year had twins Charlie and Ella
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it was just months earlier at a brunch that Jasmine had met the other man who' become a central figure in her future a
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high ranking police official on the island Henry jamat Henry is a lot of fun and we would get together often um with
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groups Jasmine says he was on the island for about another year before being transferred and they got to know each
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other well he loved his food loved my cooking often came to the house for dinner she says Andrew ashro already
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knew Henry so jamaat's name was on the invite list in May 2021 when the couple cut the ribbon on their professional
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dream thank you a Marriott branded Resort worth millions it was just weeks before the shooting for Jasmine and I it
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marks the Fulfillment of a dream dream to create the eliar resort Jasmine Harton seemed to have it all opulent
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lifestyle lovely family and links to a powerful Dynasty her life may have looked perfect but she says by then
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behind the curtains of the five bedroom beachfront condo she shared with Andrew and the children there was trouble
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Andrew and I have had a very Rocky Road they tried to make it work says Jasmine though they never officially married
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forel we weren't even sleeping in the same rooms and she says they were essentially leading separate lives so on
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a dark night in May 2021 when Jasmine Harton suddenly found herself in trouble at a party she called for her friend
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Henry jamat I said please come pick me up this is bad [Music] [Music] set the scene for us this is a very
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special place for you yeah it used to be a very special place but now brings back
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a lot of very sad sad memories this is Grand Colony so that building in the back is
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where I I lived at the glittering Center of Jasmine Harton's world was a fantasy the luxurious beachfront hotels
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of the Ashcraft Empire in San Pedro on ambergis key believ San Pedro is where all that money comes in rolls in and
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rolls out here accommodations can go for upwards of $1,000 a night it is just a few footsteps across the sand but a
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world away from everyday life in this Central American Nation where the average salary is around $800 a month
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there's an element of race in that expats do not tend to socialize within the black community I'm standing in but
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reporter Sharice housea says Jasmine Haron and Henry jamaat's life Journeys cut a path that straddled Both Worlds
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Henry jamat is friends with a wide range of bisan society as at ease with the ashcs and
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their enormous wealth as he was with the workingclass people he grew up with you
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called him King yes he's the king yes he's the king my parents name him King because
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he's one and only boy in the family a king who followed in the footsteps of his sister ch
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yes we are both police officers and was your brother a good cop a very good cop very
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strict we're trying to bridge the gap between the community and the police Henry jamat is an upstanding officer and
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I believe that by us a senior police official and a family man dedicated father to four girls and a
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boy son brother friend to many like Jean Lopez he was a big fell but he was friendly
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but Stern tell me about the Henry that you knew he would assist anybody if they need assistance he's a very good man
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loved by many he have extended his love beyond the family limits did you become good friends well
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yes the more I got to know him we had a lot in common there has been a lot of talk around bise
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that you and Henry jamat were more than friends that you may have been lovers that's not true that's not true at all
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you guys never had a sexual relationship no still the nature of their relationship would become the heart of
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this story and the question is what was such a prominent man prominent yes but working class middle class doing a on a
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pair with someone who's from the 0.01% of wealthy experts it just seemed like a mashup and a friendship that
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almost shouldn't exist whatever their relationship it was Jasmine's Reliance on the Man known as
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king that set in motion the final days of Henry jamaat's life it was May 22nd 2021 Jasmine says she was at a party 70
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M from home a man followed me into the room and was quite aggressive with me verbally physically physically um in a
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sexual manner so in that moment I fought him off me I called jamut right away the
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man Jasmine calls her protector didn't hesitate he drove an hour to come pick me up and he kept saying we need to
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really work on getting your firearms license she says Henry jamont wanted her to have a gun for protection and you
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agreed to that yes and when he had that conversation did he show you his Glock pistol yes he wanted me to handle it to
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get a feel for it this is what a Glock 17 looks like when you got home did you share what happened to you with Andrew
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no we weren't really sharing a lot with each other at all and Henry jamat posted
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on Facebook that he was now single he posted something about being single like after 14
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years and so some 3 days later it was Jasmine's turn to help her friend the next thing I know I get a text message
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from Henry saying hey can you hook me up at Grand Colony I need to come out there
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for a couple days and just blow off some steam he checked in on Wednesday May 26th correct the next day Henry went
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fishing with his best friend Francisco Penny Aro he was happy as happy I said so what's up
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tonight he said will I have a date I said who he said that one I'm taking it to my grave but he was smiling when he
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tell me that were you that date that's hard to say if he called me a date he may have just been pulling their leg or
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exaggerating truth I'm not sure but I'm I'm definitely not a date she says Andrew was supposed to join them but as
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a full moon settled over the tropical Caribbean night Jasmine met Henry alone I had a police report that
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superintendent jamot had been killed on a pier in San Pedro just offshore from this pier
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floating in the dark Caribbean Sea Henry jamat shot dead next thing I know the police are there she had called the
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police herself they took her into custody where Jasmine reportedly spun her first version of how Henry jamat
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Died her story is that a passing boat shot jamat and that story is from Jasmine herself from Jasmine herself I
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don't remember saying that like it was such a blur um you know and I think I was in
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shock were you intentionally trying to mislead police at that moment to protect yourself no not at
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all later on the day of the shooting Henry jamaat's body was brought across the shimmering Waters and home by his
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best friend panny in this boat they'd been fishing in just a day before I said can't be cannot be I'm
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Still Still Hur still bother still very hurt you were crying yeah of course is the King was dead the woman with
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connections to a wealthy powerful family sat in a Cell at the police station and
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then reportedly that story she told about the bullet fired from the boat began to change it's past midnight right
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now at the end of the pier what [Music] happens there are only two people who know what happened on that Pier on
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ambergris key one is forever silenced allegedly shot with his own gun a Glock 17 like this one 42-year-old
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superintendent of police Henry jamut is dead more than 2 days after being taken into police custody the other person in
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this Twisted drama Jasmine Harton made a startling admission you have admitted shooting and killing Henry jamat yes so
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but let me just finish my question was it an accident or was it murder it was absolutely not murder
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Henry was my friend that day changed everyone's lives documents from the cops courts and
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forensic experts in Jasmine Harton's case have not been made public so much of her account of that night cannot be
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independently corroborated she told her story in detail for the first time on TV to 48
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Hours how did you and Henry jamat end up on that Pier well we were sitting on the
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balcony of unit one which is ocean front she says they were drinking cinnamon whiskey yeah he took
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his like a shot you know I was sipping on mine then we went it was a full moon the
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stars were gorgeous so we decided let's go down and sit on the pier we were sitting on the edge our legs kind of
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dangling just talking as he done after rescuing her from that party Jasmine says Henry jamat
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again pulled out his 9mm Glock 17 and handed it to her I am not an expert with 9mm by any means so Jasmine says Henry
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began teaching her how to eject and reload the magazine clip and bullets he said let's see if you can do you know
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unload the clip reload it so helped me get the clip out I was unloading it then he took the bullets and put them beside
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him I was under the impression that the gun was completely empty at the time it doesn't make sense to people why are
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you doing this in the darkness it just kind of happened in that moment Jasmine claims Henry was a little
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inebriated but says she wasn't I had had a few drinks yeah I wasn't drunk it's past midnight now we're approaching
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12:45 a.m. mhm what happens what unfolds we're sitting on the end of the pier together he makes a comment about how
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his shoulder's really stiff and he's like just rub my shoulder so I kind of scooched back behind him Jasmine says
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she agreed to give Henry jamat a shoulder massage and then let's head inside he said so I said okay so he has
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the bullets to his left he asked me to hand him the clip from the gun and that's when I picked it up I'm still
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kind of behind him a little bit like he's sitting like this I'm kind of sitting like this who's holding the
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gun at that point me so I reached for the gun to take the magazine or the clip out cuz he was going to reload it he had
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the bullets there and all of a sudden it went off and yeah he it's it's hard to talk about
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this still take me through that moment by moment so I lean over I pick up the gun
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and I'm trying to click out the magazine and it's not working so I'm holding it like this and I'm trying to use the
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moonlight or whatever to see if I'm clicking the right button Jasmine says the barrel of the
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gun was pointed to the left where Henry was sitting next thing I know the gun went off and did you have a finger
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around the trigger not that I thought somehow you must have pulled the trigger I I I don't
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know I I I mean it was an accident or the gun misfired but consciously did I pull the trigger no
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she says Henry jamat never made a sound so the shot went off and he fell on top of
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me and all I could feel was warmth and I later then realized he was bleeding on me Jasmine says after the shot she
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struggled to get out from under Henry I was shaking him I didn't know what to do
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I as I'm trying to wiggle my way free to render Aid his body was slipping into the water
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from the dog I didn't know what to do I didn't know if he was dead she says it took time to make sense of what had
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happened it was a horrible accident taking Jasmine into custody authorities discovered she was carrying
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a small amount of cocaine they didn't charge her with possession that night because it hadn't been tested yet had
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you used cocaine that evening no do you use cocaine do you have a drug problem I definitely do
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not have a drug problem at all and I will say that the substance that they found was not mine whose was it
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then I don't think I can say that she said it wasn't hers it's in her purse Cherry jamat the police officer who
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inspired her younger brother King to get his badge isn't buying any of it do you
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believe that your brother on a darken night at the end of a pier at 12:45 in the morning was actually showing her how
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to use his Glock 9mm pistol my brother would never do a thing like that when it comes to firearm he is so skillful and
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he is so careful you don't believe in any possible way this could have been an accident I cannot believe
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that cherry is hopeful that when the ballistics report is revealed it will lead prosecutors to upgrade the
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charge Jasmine Harden should be charged for murder and not manslaughter either way Jasmine Harton
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was about to run into a world of trouble a lot closer to home this is absolutely war war with the
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billionaire family she once called her own tonight we continue with The Saga of Jasmine Harton versus Andre as
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Coss Andrew is inside hiding my kids inside why won't you let me see the kids Andrew why won't you let me see the
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[Music] [Music] children from the swaying Palms to the silent roads journalist Sharice Hol and I went looking for Henry
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jamaat's Hometown routes Peter this is the hummingbird Highway in Biz and it's the road to the
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culture Capital which is dangriga that's where Henry jamat grew up and where his
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family still lives we followed the dusty colorful streets of Dan griga let's stop
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at that Greenhouse there I'm looking for where Henry gemot used to live and we led to Henry Cham 's nephew eel this is
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it he is clear on how his uncle died murder and the whole family feels that way everybody feels that way but
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authorities charge Jasmine Harton with manslaughter not murder and publicly investigators have never suggested any
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motive for her to have intentionally killed Henry I had no motive to do that to my friend but Henry's family believes
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the truth is revealed in how and where he was shot my brother was shot behind the air execution
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style that shot echoed through a town famous for its music and drums the beat Henry jamat loved the Heritage he was
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passing on to his children we're getting close to the church where Henry Jam funeral was held
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as he had in life the 42-year-old public servant United the people of Biz wherever he
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goes wherever he did he shared that love with all of us but how to comfort sisters who lost the brother they
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lovingly called King and how to answer six-year-old Henry III's question how comes my dad haven't called
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me while Henry jamat was mourned by a nation J man Harton was getting a different kind of
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attention and according to a prison official the 32-year-old who will be dealt with like any other untried
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prisoner will become the only Caucasian among 1,041 inmates still the people of B couldn't help but wonder if Jasmine's
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race stature and wealth might benefit her then she was locked up for 13 days myself was
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infested with cockroaches Miss do you have anything to say when she finally made bail roughly
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$15,000 it was paid for by an employee of the ashcs but Jasmine was already getting the feeling that her partner
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Andrew wanted her out of sight the day that I got out I was expecting to be reunited with my children at home but
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instead I was sent to a house in the middle of nowhere by by myself without my children without a phone Andrew
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arranged for the house and for the twins to visit but Jazmin claims he only allowed them to see her one time Andrew
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claims Jasmine left the house before he could arrange another visit and being apart from your children what has that
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been like for you that's one that will get me to cry um two weeks after making bail Jasmine tried to visit the twins
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herself my son and my daughter at the Grand colony where she had lived with Andrew
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Ashcroft it was then that chaos broke out so this is me recording this is part of the video Jasmine shot Andrew's
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running so I can't see my children security is literally stopping me from seeing my children right
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now in a statement Andrew later wrote that Jasmine was shouting and cursing and behaving aggressively board the
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hotel staff you've been instructed by Andrew to stop me from seeing my children that's correct he's inside
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hiding why won't you let me see the children she is startled 2 days later when she's arrested again this time for
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assaulting a hotel staff member that day all I did was try to collect my personal
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belongings and see my children and authorities at a charge for cocaine possession from the night of the Henry
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jamat shooting this is absolutely ridiculous her bail is then revoked and she's locked up again but not for long
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tonight after four more nights Behind Bars Jasmine was out again her bail restrictions mandated she check in with
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police every day a 4-Hour round trip drive across Biz from where she is staying and so when you go in what do
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you say um they ask me a series of questions where I'm staying uh my date of birth but this day's check-in just 2
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weeks after the confrontation at the hotel why are you keeping my children from me Andrew would prove anything but
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routine authorities hand her an order to appear at a custody hearing reciting Andrew's allegations for a reason that
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the mother of the children hardly spends any time with the children first of all I was in jail
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Andrew Ashcraft seeks full custody of his children because Jasmine is charged with causing the death of a police
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officer by negligence as well as the assault of that hotel employ and claims she is addicted to
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nonprescription and illegal drugs and a habitual drunkard it's a vividly different description of the woman
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Andrew once welcomed into his rarified world in my opinion this is absolutely War this is absolutely gloves are off
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the war would be about the custody of the children a powerful family and a building International
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Scandal money power image and reputation mean absolutely everything to that family next up in the war of the ashcs
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money according to Jasmine she's been cut off financially you didn't have a bank
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account a trust fund nothing that you could draw upon not at all Mr as mother Andrew Ashcraft declined to speak with
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48 hours and his attorney says with legal proceedings under way it would be quite ill advised to Grant an
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interview the wheels had come off Jasmine Harton's Life in Paradise and she was running
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scared I've been through what I would consider hell on Earth but the jamat family says there the ones going through
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hell as they continue to mourn the kind conscientious man they believe Jasmine murdered she gave so many stories so who
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knows when she's telling the truth Central to Jasmine's story is that she knew very little about handguns and that
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Henry wanted to teach her but recently images have appeared of jasmine in B with a
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shotgun what does that video tell you that video tell me that Jasmine is well-versed have wide knowledge of
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bigger Firearms this is you with a semi-automatic rifle yes it has a magazine a clip so I'm guessing you know
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how to take out a magazine and reinsert it into a weapon that picture was from 2012 when I was at a Las Vegas shooting
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range they don't let you load your Firearms what the video doesn't show is that it really was probably my 10th
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attempt at the watermelon I'm not very good with Firearms Jasmine says she knew next to
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nothing about handguns I do not know how to handle a 9mm properly at all as we can tell it would come down to this was
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the gun used to kill Henry jamont fired by accident we asked an expert is it easy to
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accidentally fire this [Music] weapon there's a lot writing on Jasmine Harton's account of Henry jamaat's
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shooting so we wanted an expert opinion about whether her story lines up what are you holding in your hand
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this is a Glock 17 9mm pistol it's the same type of weapon that was used in the shooting incident that occurred in bise
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David Katz is a former DEA agent and a veteran Firearms instructor who taught at the FBI DEA Academy in
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Quantico if used properly how safe is a Glock 17 these are an extremely safe cat
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says Glock handguns are designed to withstand almost any amount of jostling without accidentally firing I could bang
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it I could drop it it's not going to go off but cat says there's one notable exception
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a potential key to understanding what happened on that Pier we showed him portions of my
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interview with Jasmine I'm trying to get the magazine out as you can see from Jasmine's gestures she says she was
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fumbling around to release the Guns Magazine if her finger was on the trigger and the trigger moved to the
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rear with 5 lbs of pressure the gun's going to go bang pulling the trigger on Glock
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pistols can be easier than on some other handguns says Catz this is a for and accidental trigger pulls could
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happen to anyone even to Veterans like this DEA agent who accidentally shot himself let me get a sense of how much
00:37:24
force it'll take to to fire this weapon that feels pretty light to me yeah it's 5.5 lb consciously did I pull the
00:37:34
trigger no even though Jasmine says she doesn't remember she had to have pulled the trigger there's no doubt about it
00:37:41
she pulled the trigger cat says trigger accidents can result from something called sympathetic
00:37:48
contraction in which Contracting one hand muscle triggers others too let's assume you put your finger on the
00:37:55
trigger in this position you squeeze the bottom fingers your trigger finger is going to similarly squeeze as well
00:38:01
another possible Factor alcohol Jasmine says Bui and Henry jamat had been drinking that
00:38:09
night there is no better way to get yourself hurt and by messing with Firearms when you are impaired I was
00:38:17
under the impression that the gun was completely empty at the time one or both of them could have unloaded the magazine
00:38:24
says Catz forgetting there was a bullet ready to fire in the chamber based on what you've heard her
00:38:31
say and what you know about the Glock 17 could this have been an accidental shooting yeah it could have been it's a
00:38:38
troubling story from so many aspects starting with why why you know why she's practicing in the dark but then when she
00:38:44
talks about where her hand was when the round went off could it have been an accidental discharge absolutely yes we
00:38:50
don't know what forensics ballistics or other tests authorities have conducted prosecutors aren't safe
00:38:58
I have no idea what evidence they have against me because they haven't released any of it
00:39:02
[Music] yet but Jasmine says Henry's sister Cherry confronted her when the two women
00:39:09
met by chance in July of 2021 I said Jasmine why did you kill my brother her response
00:39:22
was I'm sorry it was an accident I told her Jasmine you don't know what you have done to my
00:39:30
family do you believe you deserve any sort of legal punishment for what happened on that Pier I believe that
00:39:40
it's an it's it was an accident and I do accept any punishment that comes my way
00:39:48
under basian law she could get as much as 5 years for negligent manslaughter but also as little as a fine without any
00:39:56
more jail time time it would be an injustice to the family ever since his funeral Henry
00:40:06
jamat has watched over his family from a portrait on the wall the children would
00:40:13
sit in the sofa and they play with him up there Jasmine lost custody of her children in
00:40:22
2022 and is not allowed to visit them anymore [Music] and giving the enduring mystery of
00:40:31
exactly what happened that night Jasmine Harton May forever live under a cloud of
00:40:36
Suspicion It's haunting me I think about how his poor kids must feel being without their dad and I wish
00:40:44
I could take it back [Music] 48 Hours don't miss an episode [Music] it was somewhat unusual for someone to
00:41:49
just vanish out of thin air especially on the east side of Milwaukee Kelly DWI she is a young woman that is
00:42:02
out trying to discover herself you see this brigh eyed smiling beautiful girl who really seemed to have a lot of life
00:42:12
and vitality we got to spend quite a bit of time together in the yoga room it was
00:42:19
rare not to see her and I had just assumed she was on an adventure of some sort [Music]
00:42:27
October 12th 2013 she did not show up for work her co-workers were absolutely the
00:42:35
first to respond Kelly was very tied to her cell phone always posting on social media always
00:42:44
texting when they called Kelly's cell phone it went straight to voicemail Kelly dwire is missing Flyers
00:42:53
started going out all of the sudden in the community it was Boom everybody knew that she was
00:43:01
[Music] missing there's a sense of urgency here absolute sense of urgency for certain
00:43:09
today authorities and volunteers hunted for clues in her disappearance I think that people saw
00:43:15
those images and realized you know this could be my daughter this could be my best friend Kelly DWI was an
00:43:24
acquaintance of mine we would meet up at aliam a local bar and we would touch face frequently throughout the
00:43:31
week we learned that she was on a number of websites where one would meet men she
00:43:38
was bright sweet just kind-hearted good person she was on websites that could expose you to people very quickly that
00:43:48
are strangers some of her friends made comments that she might be with one of those people right now M DWI was meeting
00:43:56
people that could have put her In Harm's Way [Music] [Music] [Music] it's like she
00:44:53
vanishes her social media goes dead her debit card goes dead the phone is dead like the rest of Milwaukee
00:45:05
assistant district attorney Sarah Hill found Kelly dwi's sudden Disappearance in
00:45:10
2013 baffling in an age of an electronic footprint if you will it's not there it's like she just isn't
00:45:23
anymore the night of October 10th started out like any other for Kelly she'd been on a date with a man named
00:45:30
Chris Sako Kelly came to Chris's apartment building they go to get a few drinks and have a nice night out at a
00:45:38
place called alium a cute little uh bar that was uh kind of across the street from the apartment building I remember
00:45:47
her and I having a small conversation of so what do you have to do tomorrow and she goes I actually have off Chanel
00:45:54
Royston was at the bar that night Kelly told her what she planned to do the next
00:45:59
day I want to wake up in the morning I want to do yoga I want to do laundry and just have an easy
00:46:06
day they picked up a pizza from Ian's a little pizza place that's like a block away brought it to the bar we were all
00:46:13
sitting outside on this very long communal picnic bench we were all nibbling on the pizza you know they're
00:46:19
sharing it with us Kelly and Chris decide to call it a night a little after 2: in the morning they head back to uh
00:46:28
Mr zaco's apartment building across the [Music] street Kelly and Chris had been dating
00:46:36
for about a year after being introduced through a mutual friend Kelly had moved to Milwaukee in 2008 and gone to college
00:46:45
when we're in our early 20s that's definitely a time of exploration when you're trying to find your own footing
00:46:51
as an adult that's it biceps behind the ears lower your chin she always greeted me
00:46:58
with a hug Kelly's Journey of self-discovery had led to yoga class an instructor Ryan hater she was always
00:47:07
excited to see me and excited to get her butt kicked in my class keep your upper
00:47:12
back strong and her energy was just infectious Kelly worked part-time as a nanny and as a salesperson for an
00:47:20
athletic apparel store where her tight-knit co-workers were the first to sound the alarm when she met missed a
00:47:27
shift they worked together and they played together it's like she found her tribe when was the
00:47:35
last time that you saw Kelly dwire it was just before her birthday she was like something big is going to happen I
00:47:43
can feel it this feels really important to me Kelly had just turned 27 and her relationship with 38-year-old Chris Sako
00:47:54
seemed to be taking on greater me meaning for her based on what her friend said it certainly appeared to me that
00:48:01
she was extremely interested in him maybe even in love with him Chris's mother Joyce fry he was always into
00:48:10
sports he always had a lot of friends he was a very good golfer my dad took him uh out to the driving ranges I think he
00:48:18
put a golf club in Chris's hand when he was about three Chris graduated from Boston University with a degree in
00:48:24
international business but his love of sports led him to his dream job he was a major Yankee fan and they
00:48:34
did hire him in their IT staff and he just thought that was there could never be anything better and where was his
00:48:42
office it was at the Ballpark that's where at Yankee Stadium mhm that's where his office was so he was in heaven yeah
00:48:50
he really was but Joyce says Chris left New York in search of new opportunities eventually Landing in Milwaukee in 2009
00:49:00
and winding up at the relocation management company where she worked he was the CIO the Chief Information
00:49:08
officer I became involved in Kelly dwi's missing person investigation Katherine Spano then a detective with the
00:49:15
Milwaukee Police Department would learn about Kelly and Chris's relationship she
00:49:20
says Kelly's reasons for dating Chris were obvious he was educated he was bright he was smart
00:49:27
he had a job that paid him well he had a nice car a beautiful condo down on the east side while some friends thought
00:49:33
Kelly might have been in love with Chris it seems zako might not have been on the
00:49:39
same page Chris zako described his relationship with Kelly DWI as friends with benefits but it did seem Kelly was
00:49:47
keeping her options open Mr zigo didn't make promises to her that he was being exclusive with her and she also dated
00:49:55
some other people Royston recalls another time not long before Kelly went missing it was a very
00:50:04
easy night here at the bar Chanel was out at the aliam bar when Chris and Kelly invited her back to Chris's
00:50:12
apartment at closing time I went across the street with them for a night cap walked out to the balcony to smoke a
00:50:18
cigarette Chris then joined me he was smoking marijuana Kelly was inside I don't know exactly what Kelly was doing
00:50:27
Chanel says she got a bad feeling I just had this urge that I needed to leave though she just arrived she told Chris
00:50:35
and Kelly she suddenly realized how late it was and that she had to work in the morning I looked at Kelly I said I need
00:50:41
to leave and she looked up and said are you sure I said yep it's okay it's just late later than I thought I need to go
00:50:49
home and I walked out what was it what was your six cents telling you I don't know it just you weren't supposed to be
00:50:57
there bad space bad juju you don't need to be here Chanel wasn't the only one to
00:51:05
get the sense that all might not have been right in Kelly's World Kelly like many women her age had
00:51:12
been active on several dating websites even though she was seeing Chris and I'm thinking that that was the
00:51:19
main person she was seeing she was dating other people there were other people other men involved and her
00:51:26
friends were concerned she made a few statements they were usually prompted by the friends observing bruising on her
00:51:33
wrists or her neck and wondering why she has those bruises she told one friend uh she kind
00:51:42
of laughed about these bruises on her neck and wrists and laughed it off as a as a crazy night right and changed the
00:51:49
subject yes as police face the daunting task of finding Kelly what her life provide
00:51:58
their first clue there are some evil people out there [Music] [Music] 9129 I'm 23 so on Monday October 14th I started
00:52:34
my shift at 400 p.m. I learned that Kelly DWI a young woman had been reported missing and had not been seen
00:52:44
or heard from since the previous Friday as Kelly dwi's family and friends continue to search for her Milwaukee
00:52:58
detective Tammy TRL mlan arrived at the scene of Kelly's last known whereabouts 3 days earlier Chris sako's apartment
00:53:08
building they come right through this door and he actually holds the door open for
00:53:12
[Music] her you can see that on the video yes you see two people that are chatting
00:53:22
walk past that camera then there's another camera that catches them turning the corner corner to the elevator and
00:53:28
you can see Kelly in her typical I think outgoing fashion she's gesturing with her hands a little they bend the corner
00:53:35
and then that's the last time that she is ever seen Alive by anyone now it was time to talk to the
00:53:47
other person in that video TRL mlan sat down with zako in his 18th floor apartment he came off as a pretty nice
00:53:55
guy he said she would hang out with him a couple times a week he used the word party they party
00:54:02
together somewhat shockingly zako didn't hold back telling police exactly what he
00:54:09
meant by party as he described how he and Kelly had ended their evening they walk back and they do lines of cocaine
00:54:19
they have a couple more drinks he says there was sex and they both passed out on opposite ends of his
00:54:29
couch zako said Kelly left around 9:00 the next morning adding that he heard the front door click shut behind her
00:54:38
there was only one problem with that while I'm speaking with him I get a text message from one of the other
00:54:45
investigators who had been watching video downstairs with the manager and he simply just says in the text she doesn't
00:54:55
come out as treml mlan focused on how Kelly could have slipped out of this high security building
00:55:02
undetected zakos seem more interested in shifting Focus away from himself well you know she's messing around with a lot
00:55:10
of other guys there's some other guy you know kind of trying to take the attention away from himself that may
00:55:17
have been zaku's intention but that's not what happened in your bones in your gut based on your instinct and your
00:55:25
training and experience you felt like you were looking at a suspect yes police needed a way to search sako's
00:55:33
apartment for evidence because he had told TRL mlan he'd use drugs there they were able to get a search
00:55:41
warrant what'd you find lines of cocaine on top of a magazine uh some canisters of marijuana in the refrigerator
00:55:50
painkillers uh pills and marijuana pipes smoking pipes they should tell you how cold it is in
00:55:58
this place before they zako was arrested for drug possession during his interview
00:56:03
he seemed flip even when asked routine questions about his medical history anxiety nothing like that I have anxiety
00:56:12
they brought me in okay but no uh not taking anything for it okay no problem but no bipolar
00:56:20
schizophrenia I suppose that's all open to interpretation by somebody Zak's interrogation finishes
00:56:28
abruptly let's call my lawyer but while they had zako in custody police get a warrant to search his cell phone hoping
00:56:36
to find clues in Kelly's disappearance they were stunned to find a video of zako and Kelly DWI engaged in
00:56:45
a sex act where Kelly appears to be in distress she can't breathe she's straining for breath when was this video
00:56:54
taken that video was taken in approximately 3 weeks before she went missing and there was more incriminating
00:57:04
evidence disturbing pictures of Kelly on zaco's phone still photographs that are
00:57:10
very concerning as well because she appears to be unconscious on his bed but police could not link those images to
00:57:20
Kelly's disappearance and despite zako being a person of interest they could only charge him with drug possession but
00:57:28
that search of his apartment LED police to a bizarre Discovery in his bathroom during that first search warrant the
00:57:35
police observe the shower curtain hooks with the torn fragments of shower curtain not knowing what a torn down
00:57:44
shower curtain could mean and concern that Kelly is never seen exiting the building that they then bring in a
00:57:52
canine to conduct a sniff for the odor of decomposing human remains and that police cadav dog Molly would deliver
00:58:01
some stunning results there's an indication at the outside of the apartment door in the
00:58:08
parking garage on the level he parked his car on the dumpster door on the 18th floor Molly alerted on the
00:58:19
hallway guest bedroom guest bathroom she went on to the master bedroom got up onto Chris
00:58:28
zaco's bed she seemed to be sniffing vigorously on top of his bed and gives her final formal trained alert for
00:58:37
police that moment changed this case forever they now believed Kelly was dead and her final moments had been in Chris
00:58:46
sako's apartment and if Kelly died on that bed where did the body go that's what we needed to find
00:58:54
out and Chris Z had those answers and at that point it was turning into a homicide
00:59:02
investigation not having enough to charge zako and not knowing where Kelly's Body could be police search
00:59:09
Zak's home electronics for more clues they examined an external hard drive and some discs that were found in his spare
00:59:19
bedroom what's on that hard drive that hard drive has a number of Hardcore child pornography
00:59:26
videos very extremely extremely disturbing zako disavowed any knowledge of the child pornography police found if
00:59:37
you're an IT guy you collect stuff so you collect old hard drives you collect discs you collect you know you just
00:59:44
collect it equipment and that particular hard drive was from his former uh place
00:59:51
of work in Boston he didn't know it was there and you believe him I do believe him
00:59:58
yeah it had been 2 weeks since Kelly disappeared zako was arrested again this time for possession of child
01:00:07
pornography by early November 2013 he was out on bail and awaiting trial on the drug and child porn charges
01:00:17
girlfriend uh no I mean I dat multiple people but before zako had lawyered up in that first interrogation it would
01:00:25
turn out he'd said something that would come back to haunt him okay so nobody you consider your girlfriend right now
01:00:33
no there's a couple girls that I would like to be my girlfriend but it hasn't moved that seriously yet I
01:00:39
guess he began dating a young woman in 2009 he was living two different lives towards the end there was more
01:01:04
touching more of the smiling towards each other there was more affection there than there had been towards the
01:01:14
beginning according to Chanel Royston before Kelly DWI disappeared it seemed her relationship with Chris Sako was
01:01:22
evolving did Kelly ever tell you that she was falling in love with Chris she never told me but you could tell you
01:01:31
know how she would look at him that she was looking for something more and I think that she did love him at that
01:01:39
point it turns out zako may have been in love as well with someone else he was in
01:01:46
a very serious relationship with a woman who he was dating at the time that he was seeing Kelly and this young woman
01:01:53
knew nothing about the relationship with Kelly and did Kelly have any idea about
01:01:58
this other woman absolutely not and neither did investigators until this other woman's brotheris Z after seeing
01:02:07
zako arrested on the news reported to police that his sister Megan had been dating zako for more than three years
01:02:16
when I went to interview the long-term girlfriend Megan I had a lot of photographs from the search warrants
01:02:21
with me and I was able to have her identify different objects Within in the apartment they learned that a number of
01:02:30
things were missing she described that guest bathroom there should have been a shower curtain there should have been a
01:02:38
little rug and some matching decorative towels all of those things were gone and
01:02:44
she was surprised to see that she identified the shower curtain hooks that were bent and torn identified the fact
01:02:51
that they were not like that when she had last been in there and it's in that very bathroom where the sniff dog had
01:02:57
alerted detecting human remains exactly Megan also identified one more missing item there had been a large
01:03:06
travel golf bag lying in front of the TV that had been there for weeks and weeks
01:03:11
that they literally would have to step over to get into the bathroom and that was
01:03:16
missing a travel golf bag possibly like this one is commonly used by golfers to protect their clubs it's all padded very
01:03:26
large very large it was padded it was silver and uh she thought it was maybe 2 2 and 1/2 ft wide detectives wondered if
01:03:33
zako had a more Sinister use for the bag could Kelly's Body have fit inside that
01:03:39
travel bag yes absolutely absolutely but how did zako get that bag out of his apartment there is no video
01:03:47
of zako leaving on any of the 28 surveillance cameras in the building there's no camera on the elevator so he
01:03:56
could take her body in the travel golf bag um out of his apartment into the elevator down to the first floor and out
01:04:06
that door to the garage without being captured on any cameras but there are cameras inside the garage and yet no
01:04:14
image of zako with that bag the garage is the only area where the cameras would be motion activated some of the
01:04:25
investigators think hey he just got lucky with it it took months of painstaking work
01:04:31
for Milwaukee PD investigators to piece together Chris sako's movements on the days after his date with Kelly dwire
01:04:40
Lieutenant Eric goldbranson worked the case as both a homicide and Cold Case detective at 10:06 a.m. we have Chris
01:04:53
zako standing by the driver side door when he leaves that building at 10:08 a.m. Kelly dwi's
01:05:01
phone it goes dead what do you think happened to the phone at that moment broken powered down thrown in the water
01:05:09
the river is very close by zako is next seen back in his garage 16 minutes later standing by the trunk
01:05:20
of his car if you look closely in that image there's a grayer silver object lying in the vehicle above the
01:05:29
trunk level I think that's consistent with the travel golf Bay so you believe Kelly dwire is in the trunk of his
01:05:36
vehicle I do investigators believe that because the cadaver dog Molly told them so the
01:05:44
cab dog not only hits on all those things in the apartment but the dog hits on the car also in the trunk and on the
01:05:51
door handle and inside the vehicle over the next eight hours video shows zako coming and going several more times
01:06:01
loading items into his car before finally leaving for the day at 6:16 p.m. he said he decided to take his summer
01:06:12
sports equipment to his mother's house on a Friday night around 6:30 sure yes he came over to drop off some golf clubs
01:06:22
and his baseball equipment and so there's nothing Nothing in Your Mind unusual when he showed up with this
01:06:29
sporting equipment at your place not at all there's a golf bag that investigators say went missing a bag
01:06:38
that they claim Kelly dwi's body was in did you ever see this golf bag never 7:30 p.m. and zako is now du at
01:06:50
his girlfriend's house for a Friday night dinner but investigators learn he didn't
01:06:56
arrive until about 8:45 there's time that's unaccounted for we believe he was possibly looking for
01:07:04
areas to dispose of the body during that time unfortunately detectives weren't able to trace Zak's movements from his
01:07:13
phone records was his cell phone on or off it was off when zako did finally arrive for
01:07:21
dinner his girlfriend told investigators he wasn't quite himself he was quite late and he seemed a little bit ruffled
01:07:30
a little bit nervous he's fiddling with his phone claiming it doesn't work when they went to bed she described them as
01:07:38
being Restless she described them as sweating profusely to the point where she actually had to change the sheets
01:07:45
she found that very unusual and zako may have had a very good reason to sweat that night his car is parked near his
01:07:54
girlfriend's house house overnight we believe that body is absolutely in that trunk locked inside that golf bag he
01:08:01
could not have left that body in his apartment because that's the first place everybody went to look for Kelly the
01:08:07
following morning investigators say zako rose with the sun still faced with a nightmare he was desperate by Saturday
01:08:17
he had to get that body out of that vehicle [Music] [Music] one day after Kelly DWI disappeared
01:08:40
Chris Sako left his girlfriend's apartment and hit the road where he went that morning would be the first in a
01:08:47
series of Clues as to what may have happened to Kelly dwire Chris zako had gone to a place called the Mouse House
01:08:56
what's the mouse house it's a cheese place this is The Mouse House 80 mi from Milwaukee near Madison Wisconsin one
01:09:09
cheese shop in a state full of cheese shops why would he drive up toward Madison to buy cheese it's a very good
01:09:18
question a very good question zako says he drove 160 Mi round trip to buy a half
01:09:25
pound wedge of cheese for his girlfriend's parents but the investigators say that he did it to
01:09:32
finally dispose of Kelly's body somewhere in the rural Wisconsin Farmland between Madison and Milwaukee
01:09:41
in case he was spotted do you believe zako actually went to The Mouse House to create an alibi of sorts I do I
01:09:48
certainly do police believe that after dumping Kelly's Body zako made his way to this
01:09:58
shopping center on his drive back to Milwaukee investigators say that he walked into a Sports Authority and used
01:10:05
his credit card to buy a brand new pair of sneakers why is he buying new sneakers he may have purchased those
01:10:12
sneakers to replace ones that he used in in dumping the body like he might have been concerned that evidence got on
01:10:20
those sneakers so he had to have new ones to put on here's the slip up I don't know if May maybe he just had a
01:10:26
momentary lapse of judgment but that created a paper trail for him okay that paper trail was a single credit card
01:10:33
receipt which gave detectives a critical piece of the timeline we know through the investigation that he purchased the
01:10:41
chees at 9:55 a.m. and we know that he purchased the shoes at 1211 p.m. the distance between the mouse
01:10:49
house and Sports Authority is 54 miles and it should take 4 37 minutes to get there but yet we have 90 minutes
01:10:58
unaccounted for at that time 90 minutes certainly enough time detectives believed for zako to locate a secluded
01:11:07
spot off the highway but for them to find that spot would be like finding a needle in a hay stack and without
01:11:15
Kelly's Body there was no physical evidence of a crime to charge zako with only circumstance and suspicion did you
01:11:24
want to take it to trial then it was tough what was missing what was missing was her body eventually Chris Sako did
01:11:34
go on trial in November 2014 not for murder but for the child pornography possession uncovered with
01:11:42
the initial investigation search warrants what's the result of that trial he's convicted of all but one count one
01:11:49
month later zako pleaded guilty to additional drug charges and was sentenced to a total of 19
01:11:58
years so are you done with Chris zako is that it or is the potential murder investigation still hanging over his
01:12:06
head it's still there well we still wanted to be able to find out what actually happened with
01:12:15
Kelly authorities have just identified the remains of 27-year-old Kelly DWI detective where are we we are on a
01:12:25
dead end Country Road and we are about 45 mil west of Milwaukee um and it's quite overgrown here but this is the
01:12:33
specific area where Kelly dwi's body was found for a year and a half Kelly DWI had been
01:12:42
here hidden under these trees just 6 miles from busy I94 before her remains were discovered
01:12:53
by a local man out for a walk he catches a glint of light Hitting off of something that's whitish in color
01:13:03
and when he takes a closer look he sees what appears to be a human skull 6 days later using dental records
01:13:12
those remains were confirmed to be Kelly dwire what could not be confirmed though
01:13:18
was just how she died there was nothing on that skeleton to tell us what the cause of death was there was no no
01:13:25
physical evidence found at the scene either no shower curtain no cloth no towel no clothing and no travel golf bag
01:13:35
but detectives say there was one clue Left Behind the position of Kelly's skeleton her feet and legs were more
01:13:44
over in this area um with one of her legs completely turned very contorted same thing with her left arm it was
01:13:51
behind her back as if she had been scrunched into some kind of a container like a golf travel bag like a golf
01:13:57
travel bag exactly exactly it would appear that police now had enough evidence to bring Chris Sako back to
01:14:05
court for the death of Kelly dwire it is just too much of a coincidence that her body is found
01:14:15
somewhat near where he was shopping on the day after she goes missing but assistant district attorney Hill wanted
01:14:22
more than coincidence to build an airtight case we wanted to make sure that we had uncovered all of the
01:14:30
evidence we would be able to uncover when you have a case that's going to be largely circumstantial it's absolutely
01:14:36
essential you do that and with Sako already in prison there was no rush it took another two years of investigative
01:14:45
work before the state of Wisconsin charged Chris Sako in the death of Kelly dwire and another year and a half to
01:14:55
bring the case to [Music] trial good morning ladies and gentlemen this case is about a young woman named
01:15:09
Kelly DWI almost 5 years after Kelly dwire went missing Chris Sako goes on trial for her
01:15:17
death but surprising to some not for murder Chris zacho was charged with first to be Reckless h side hiding a
01:15:26
corpse and strangulation Suffocation with the media restricted behind courtroom security glass prosecutor
01:15:33
Sarah Hill presents the state's theory of how they believe Kelly died you will hear evidence that the defendant Mr zako
01:15:42
was basically having sex with Kelly DWI and he winds up killing her I think Chris zako enjoyed taking
01:15:52
women to the brink of death for for his own sexual gratification in fact investigators interviewed several women
01:16:00
who said that zako engaged in this type of behavior as far back as high school and that it was that Reckless conduct
01:16:09
that wound up killing Kelly dwire and then the staco had to do something about it Chris uses that shower curtain and
01:16:22
wraps her up puts her into the golf bag and goes down to his parking garage the police have no evidence to believe that
01:16:31
Miss DWI exited the apartment in either a shower curtain or a golf travel bag Chris sako's defense attorneys Craig
01:16:40
mastantuno and Rebecca coffee say the state has it all wrong someone did Kill Kelly DWI but it wasn't Chris zacho this
01:16:50
case is more about the state wanting Mr zacho to be guilty than having the evidence to prove it is there any
01:16:58
eyewitness to this alleged crime there was no eyewitness no is there a CSI moment some definitive piece of DNA
01:17:06
there was no DNA evidence the prosecution contends that while the security camera video clearly
01:17:14
shows Kelly walking into zaco's building she is never seen walking out she very well could have left the building in a
01:17:23
way that wasn't r viewed the defense argues there is video from several cameras they never had a
01:17:31
chance to examine because it was not preserved as evidence when the defense went to review all of the video evidence
01:17:39
that video was missing and what about that missing travel golf bag police insist is in the
01:17:47
back of Zak's car we've looked at that picture there is no silver bag in his trunk there is no video of him carrying
01:17:55
a bag that would have been a very large bag to fit a woman who is 5' 7 there was
01:18:00
no video of that because that didn't happen the cadaver dog evidence seems significant K9 Molly alerts on the bed
01:18:09
in the master bedroom and she also alerts in the garage there's no way whatsoever to verify what the officer
01:18:19
says this dog alerted to it wasn't even filmed and so it's entirely dependent on
01:18:26
a police officer describing what she believes her dog was alerting to and the defense also has an
01:18:34
explanation for that video on zaco's phone where Kelly appears to be in distress the government found a video
01:18:42
that Kelly DWI and Chris zacho made together they are calling it strangulation or Suffocation a
01:18:47
consensual sexual act is what it depicts that type of sex is depicted in mainstream MO in pictures like 50 Shades
01:18:56
of Gray as being engaged in with two consensual adults if Chris zako did not kill Kelly dwire who did I don't know I
01:19:06
don't think that we know I think that we know that it could have been a number of
01:19:12
other people the defense says that's because Kelly dated men she had met online and
01:19:20
is the suggestion that she met up with one of these individuals and that that could be the cause of her
01:19:27
disappearance yes yes yes to support that theory the defense presented a witness who says that he saw Kelly after
01:19:37
she was reported missing someone who credibly said I saw her that weekend in the car of another individual his
01:19:45
observation of this individual was very brief at a stoplight I was sure that it was her it looked exactly like her he
01:19:55
went to the district station and said I saw the woman that is being looked for that's on the posters that's on TV did
01:20:02
anyone ever follow up with you about that information no you think he's just mistaken I think he's mistaken I I I
01:20:10
don't think he was trying to mislead anybody I just truly believe he's mistaken after nine days of argument and
01:20:19
testimony the case seemed to rest on one thing the quality of the evidence ladies
01:20:26
and gentlemen the defendant killed Kelly DWI every piece of circumstantial evidence supports that despite the
01:20:31
tragedy of Miss dwi's demise it's not Justice to find Chris zako guilty based on conjecture it's Justice to find him
01:20:38
not guilty all of the factors pointed to him there's no other person that could have done
01:20:45
it it took the jury only three and a half hours to reach the same conclusion we the jury find the defendant Chris
01:20:53
zako guilty of degree Reckless homicide is charged and count one of the information finally after 5 years of
01:21:00
waiting and wondering there is Justice for Kelly DWI as for Chris Sako he did look at me
01:21:10
when he was being removed what did you see he was devastated and what was Chris's sentence
01:21:18
31 years is that on top of the 19 years yes what was that chisako is a person who's demonstrated
01:21:28
that he poses a danger to society particularly to women and someone is dead as a
01:21:36
result that someone was a vibrant and trusting young woman just beginning to find her way in the world she was a
01:21:45
loving person who truly cared about people and loved so much that she didn't really find much fault than
01:21:55
[Music] anyone there's this sense of profound loss loss for her family her friends you
01:22:05
see a loss of a light because of one person's selfishness and that's a tragedy tragedy is the best word for it
01:22:32
[Music] one why is your emergency I need the police [Applause] my sry please I think you're still alive
01:23:22
he's making noises oh [Music] God got a telephone call from the Ellis County Sheriff's Office saying hey we've
01:23:33
had a shooting in your city her husband's been shot by an unknown male I believe that had broken into the house
01:23:43
police when I got there I met a deputy from Ellis County where you at the [Applause]
01:23:50
bedroom and we see the body on the floor his name is John John what gner EXC me man back up he's still
01:23:59
warm see no ma'am come on sweet come on you're going to get him you're going to get him
01:24:09
please did you see who did this man yes who I don't know who he came in here he came in the house
01:24:20
yes are we sure he's not here anymore Chief yeah may still be here huh don't know
01:24:36
[Music] yet did you find it no ma'am nobody's here they have me sitting on the couch
01:24:44
in the living room ma'am how you doing I'm Sergeant Carr I'm with M Pro Police Department I've
01:24:51
never dealt with police at all so I didn't know that even had video cameras on them let me get your name Sandra were
01:24:58
you able to see them I kept going over and over and over everything I saw about him trying to remember everything he was
01:25:06
white it was a white meal everything he had on he had blue jeans on the blue hoodie and a mask just still trying to
01:25:16
keep that memory going and I I looked at his face once but I was afraid if I looked
01:25:22
again he was going to K kill me could I get you stand right there I have to pull
01:25:27
my phone out get a real closeup here if you don't mind and I started snapping pictures I'm
01:25:36
going to get some pictures back here Ro crime scene starting around these trees we started going ahead and
01:25:44
securing the scene most small cities like Mur if they have a major crime I'm going to call
01:25:51
Shane and let him know they will call in sorry to wake y a resource like Ellis County Sheriff's
01:25:59
Office it was a little after 2:00 a.m. when I drive hey how you doing sir after I was brief immediately I knew that
01:26:09
Sandra needed to be talked to she was the last one to see him alive get out right there we decided to take Sandra to
01:26:17
the Sheriff's Office she was very key our only witness it made me think that I was was going to help him find the
01:26:25
person that did this [Music] [Music] you can bet this could be the last place Sandra Garner expected to find herself
01:27:23
yet here she was was early in the morning of January 2nd 2018 at the Ellis County Sheriff's
01:27:30
Office in waah hatchee Texas not far from her home in May Pearl turn around just hours earlier she and her
01:27:41
husband John had celebrated their 18th wedding anniversary and now after a night of
01:27:48
unimaginable violence she was answering questions about his murder I didn't mind doing it at all cuz I
01:27:56
wanted to help him as much as I could May Pearl's chief of police at the time Boyd Norton was in charge assisted by
01:28:03
Lieutenant Shane Thompson of the Sheriff's Office him first please it was all routine Sandra's hands were swabbed for
01:28:13
gunshot residue her clothes were collected and then the questioning began and I knew I had to
01:28:21
stay kind of calm to be able able to tell them everything that happened did you wake up any before the incident
01:28:29
happened cuz I felt like if I just let my emotions go that I would lose it all and I couldn't lose it I woke
01:28:38
up and then I had heard gunshot you heard a gunshot I heard two gunshots and then somehow I ended up in
01:28:47
the floor beside the bed she says she saw a man holding a flashlight and a gun I started screaming you know hoping
01:28:58
somebody would hear me he said shut up I said please don't kill me and he says what I came here to do is done I didn't
01:29:07
come here to shoot you you were having this conversation with a guy who just shot your husband well I said that and
01:29:12
he said it back to me yes she says he seemed to know both her and John who he blamed for destroying his life years
01:29:22
earlier work my ass off and then he fart he says I lost my house I lost my wife I lost my kid he
01:29:31
apparently didn't come just to kill John he also wanted money he said your husband had always talked about how he
01:29:40
keeps money in the house and I need that money I think I earned that money she went into the closet and she got the
01:29:47
lock box that closet has a light that comes on when the door opens and Sandra says that's how she got a glimpse of the
01:29:56
killer he had a mask on all I could see was his eyes was he tall was he short he was taller than me you
01:30:04
recognize the voice no she handed him a pile of cash exactly how much remains a mystery I think it was $188,000 that's
01:30:14
how much was in there the last time I counted it $18,000 yes Sandra says when he left the killer gave her instructions
01:30:21
that were frightening and a little peculiar he told her to sit down and count to 100 if he heard sirene he was
01:30:30
going to come back and kill her so I can't do 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 n that's how fast you
01:30:35
count 100 yes 911 then she made that call to 911 there was a man in here him please help me investigators
01:30:46
now had Sandra story about Jon's death but they needed to learn the story of the couple's life together Sandra was a
01:30:55
twice divorced mother of two when she met John they worked as managers at the same packaging company in Paris Texas
01:31:03
she was 13 years older than he was he was just a very sweet man but he was known as a tough boss he loved firing
01:31:13
people cuz if they weren't doing their job right they didn't need to be working for him the fact that he had fired a lot
01:31:19
of people we knew that there were going to be people out there who didn't care for John
01:31:25
John was kind of a wild crazy guy he was prescribed anti-depressant he took those frequently
01:31:34
drank heavily very outgoing very blunt I mean he's he's out there none of that mattered to Sandra
01:31:45
two years after they met they got married on New Year's Eve in Las Vegas we had an awesome relationship
01:31:54
we loved each other so much we were Partners we just did everything together John became a second father to Sandra's
01:32:05
son Wes but her daughter Andrea was not very fond of him until 2014 when Sandra was diagnosed with
01:32:15
multiple sclerosis I saw how much he loved her that's all that mattered he took care of
01:32:22
her he was her Rock the medicine made me sick a lot it also made her depressed she says she thought about
01:32:31
suicide and Googled how to do it how do I kill myself in my sleep how do I take pills to kill myself or something like
01:32:39
that Sandra says she didn't want to become a burden to John well I told John one day you know I'm just you don't
01:32:46
deserve this I'm just going to kill myself and he said well if you do that I'm going to kill myself too that's when
01:32:52
I knew I couldn't do it as Sandra got sicker John became the sole bread winner and caretaker how reliant on him were
01:33:01
you I was very relying on him he was all I had it was just me and him in 2016 they moved to May
01:33:11
Pearl population just about 1,000 to be closer to their families John's father and stepmother
01:33:19
bought the house across the street and John and and's backyard became the Gathering Place we were over
01:33:28
there all the time I mean our family is just you don't knock on the door you walk in Jessica Garner
01:33:35
married John's cousin and she became close to Sandra I loved her she was family that was John's wife I mean you
01:33:44
love them they were super happy so the news that John had been killed came out of the blue and I just started screaming
01:33:53
and I'm like no no he's not it was a nightmare was just a nightmare several hours after she arrived Sandra left the
01:34:03
Sheriff's Office to be with the extended Garner family which had gathered to comfort her police body cams captured
01:34:11
the scene I'm like what happened what what's going on and she told us the story did you believe her I did did
01:34:18
everybody in the room believe her no [Music] if you want come with me I'll you back
01:34:31
to put it mildly Sandra Garner had had a bad night by the time she left the Ellis
01:34:37
County Sheriff's Office and things were about to get worse her son Wes showed up
01:34:43
at the Sheriff's Office looking for her Wes is somebody that we wanted to speak with because he was the last person John
01:34:50
spoke to besides Sandra he agreed to talk to Lieutenant Shane Thompson so you were with John last
01:35:00
night that was just hours before the shooting Wes says he went home and didn't know anything was wrong until
01:35:07
John's family including Jessica Garner showed up at his apartment to give him the news John's been killed and he was
01:35:16
like what happened we're like we don't know and he was like how's my mom where's my mom Wes hadn't seen his
01:35:21
mother but what he had to say about her sure caught Lieutenant Thompson's attention Wes very early on had
01:35:30
suspicions about his mother being involved he seemed to be wondering if his own mother could be a killer
01:35:39
she what your thoughts M [Music] man meanwhile at the crime scene investigators were busy collecting
01:35:53
evidence and taking photos we searched the entire house we searched all the cars and all of the out
01:36:01
buildings Sandra's Mustang was parked inside of a detached garage there was nothing there it took hours but the
01:36:11
police finally left and when they did Sandra went home to live in the house Sheriff's Office where less than 24
01:36:20
hours earlier her husband had been shot to death it was a little weird yes but I
01:36:29
knew I needed to be there why I just felt like that's where John would want me to be and I was really hoping that
01:36:36
the guy would come back you were so I could kill him investigators already had one
01:36:44
killing on their hands and they were going through all the evidence they took out of the Garner's home they were
01:36:51
particularly interested in the Garner's Electronics you can learn a lot about a person from their
01:36:59
electronics and what they learned from Sandra's iPad and cell phone seemed especially interesting few days before
01:37:08
the the murder she's searching um how to kill somebody in their sleep she had clicked on a link uh
01:37:15
16 ways to kill somebody and not get caught what was your reaction our reaction that sander just became more
01:37:21
and more of a suspect you you have a gift for understatement but it would be hard to
01:37:28
understate how well the Garner house was protected John had guns lots of guns even for Texas 49 pistols I'm sorry how
01:37:40
many 49 and there was probably 12 rifles he had them stashed everywhere cuz he wanted there be a gun if he needed it we
01:37:50
were able to account for all of the weapons except for one what kind of gun was that a 38 JN was killed with a 38
01:37:58
and what's more Norton says the missing pistol belonged to Sandra John had given
01:38:05
it to Sandra but investigators couldn't find the gun on January 5th 3 days after
01:38:13
JN was murdered investigators returned to the Garner house to search again they wanted that gun and they looked
01:38:21
everywhere we searched all the vehicles again and they wanted to look inside Sandra's
01:38:27
Mustang but this time they couldn't the Mustang was still inside of the detached
01:38:33
garage but it was locked what did you make of that well we wanted to know why it was
01:38:39
locked Wes went across the street where the family was gathered to get Sandra's Keys Wes walked in and said hey Mom they
01:38:48
want the keys to your Mustang she threw down the fork that was in her hand and said know you can tell him to off and I
01:38:56
just remember looking at her like I was pissed because I knew they were looking at me for it she says she
01:39:05
learned police were looking at her as a suspect just that morning from West I told him no he said yes they are
01:39:14
you scared no cuz I didn't do it she was not going to let us in that Mustang when
01:39:20
she knew that we were getting in that vehicle one way or another can you step back out there for me please I got to
01:39:26
get some pictures she ended up producing the key when police opened the car they
01:39:31
found a plastic bag under the front seat and inside wrapped in wet towels was a rusty gun a 38 caliber pistol with no
01:39:43
fingerprints or DNA it's awfully odd that it wasn't there one day and then 3 days later
01:39:49
there it was very odd yes got any ideas how that happened [Music] Sandra put it there Jessica remembers
01:39:58
Wes coming back across the street he said um they found the gun in her car I just looked at him and I mean like
01:40:06
I'm getting Goosebumps now you just you're like what what did that mean to you at
01:40:11
that point just everything changes at that point she killed John how could she kill
01:40:19
John why did she kill John Sandra was brought back to to the Ellis County Sheriff's Office and this time Thompson
01:40:27
was assisted by Texas Ranger Adam Sweeney need you to be honest I try I swear I'm trying to be honest with you I
01:40:37
don't you don't think I'm being honest and this was not a friendly conversation it was more confrontational
01:40:45
something happened what I did not kill my husband that's when they started sayy we know
01:40:52
you did this we know you did this no I didn't yeah we know you did we want you to tell us that's what we're here for to
01:40:59
tell you what you only ex Sayed that I did it when I didn't we want you to tell us the truth that's it I told you the
01:41:06
truth you're not telling us the truth and they questioned her about her gun when did you put that gun in your car
01:41:14
you not a gun in my car are you serious I didn't put a gun in my car y'all I swear where was there a gun in my car
01:41:22
she stuck to her story she claimed she had no idea how the gun got there no you're trying to get me to admit
01:41:29
something I didn't do yes yes and I'm done talking to you I was upset cuz they didn't believe what I was telling them
01:41:39
you know why would they not believe it that might be because 5 days later when the
01:41:45
ballistics test came back they showed the gun in the Mustang was the one used to kill John
01:41:54
and with that just a few hours later when Sandra pulled into her driveway police were waiting I just got out of
01:42:03
the car and I said we're arresting you it was horrible the Garner family was watching from across the street as the
01:42:10
woman who had been so close to all of them okay let's get her out of here was hauled off in
01:42:18
handcuffs I'll be completely honest we cheered you cheered we he cheered and I know that's horrible to
01:42:26
say but it was just a little piece of Justice at that moment for [Music] John after police arrested Sandra Garner
01:42:46
her bond was set at $2 million there was no way she could pay that they made her
01:42:51
sit in jail for a year and half and that should have never happened Sandra's attorney Tom papis she's not the kind of
01:42:59
person that would do that to John in September of 2019 Sandra Garner aged by prison got to tell her story to
01:43:10
a new audience good morning everyone in front of a jury when she went on trial in waah hatchee Texas are the attorneys
01:43:20
ready for the jury to come in for murdering her husband hband John were you prepared for what that was going to
01:43:26
be like no I didn't know what all was going to be said I was hopeful they didn't have anything to
01:43:32
prove absolutely that I did it mhm so I was confident but prosecutors Lindy batty and Ricky cypes believed they had
01:43:42
a strong case against her the murder weapon was Sandra Garner's gun anybody you tell this story to says who comes to
01:43:50
commit a murder and doesn't bring their own weapon batty ridiculed Sandra's story about a killer coming in but using
01:43:58
Sandra's gun damn it I forgot the gun at times she acted out the role of the killer I wore my trusty mask so no one
01:44:09
would know who I was but I'm going to have a 10-minute conversation with Sandra about who I am and why I'm doing
01:44:17
this and there were those ghoulish searches on Sandra's iPad about killing someone and not getting caught big deal
01:44:26
and we did make a big deal about these prosecutors could well have considered this case a slam dunk sounds good for us
01:44:33
right we sometimes we don't get that much but this was a hard case we knew we had a mountain of hurdles to overcome in
01:44:40
this trial make no mistake she didn't shoot John the prosecution's biggest hurdles may have been the result of poor
01:44:47
police work Sheriff's Office especially May Pearl police chief Boyd Norton lack of experience leading an
01:44:56
investigation obviously I had been to many murder scenes but as far as being the investigator on the scene this was
01:45:04
my first he had enough experience to know he had to look into all those people John had fired over the years we
01:45:11
interviewed probably a couple of dozen people who had been terminated and we were not coming up with any suspects but
01:45:19
Norton is more open and more honest than most people would be about the mistakes
01:45:24
he made at various stages of the investigation was the crime scene secured in your view quickly enough to
01:45:32
preserve the all the evidence no I probably should have taken her out of the house and put her in a car I
01:45:39
probably should have bagged her hands and I should have done some other things police might have made a huge mistake by
01:45:46
not bagging Sandra's hands gunshot residue was discovered on her but it was only a t tiny amount that could have an
01:45:55
innocent explanation says the defense sander was lying right next to John when he was shot she pulled the body off the
01:46:02
bed and she did chest compression the fact that there are only three specs on her left arm uh wasn't consistent with
01:46:09
her firing the weapon investigators believe if Sandra's hands had been bagged they might have found a lot more
01:46:16
gunshot residue enough to prove she did fire that gun he's in the bedroom right there police might also have failed to
01:46:24
preserve the crime scene well enough First Responders came in and out a lot rain in the bedroom when I was still
01:46:32
there which I thought was strange because that's where it happened so why run and mess up everything that could be
01:46:39
evidence and important evidence was lost by the police themselves body cam footage shows Chief Norton taking photos
01:46:48
of the scene right when he arrived a lot of them and they all inexplicably disappeared from his cell
01:46:57
phone how did you feel when you realized that these photos were missing well I felt bad I had evidence that should have
01:47:07
been with the case and it wasn't there so yeah I was embarrassed problem for the case yes sir instead the prosecution
01:47:14
had to use photos taken by the Ellis County Sheriff's crime scene investigator 8 hours after the murder
01:47:22
investigation was messed up mishap with the photos seemed like a gift to defense
01:47:27
attorney Tom papis what did you think when you heard that these photos had been lost I think we're going to win do
01:47:35
you regret not handing this whole thing over to Ellis County right away I do I do when did you realize that that was a
01:47:46
mistake probably about a week into it law enforcement poured their heart and their soul into this investigation it
01:47:52
may not have been perfect and prosecutors knew the chief's inexperience would not play well in
01:47:58
front of the jury did Chief Boyd Norton fill you with confidence no no prosecutors found
01:48:08
themselves having to explain among other things why the police didn't fingerprint
01:48:13
the door handle of the Mustang where the gun was found papa says police might well have found a fingerprint that
01:48:20
belonged to another suspect as prosecutors we want them to do everything possible that they could do I
01:48:28
believe that it should have been done you know I told you up front that we'd made some mistakes in this case should
01:48:35
we have taken the car and impounded in process it maybe but we didn't papus attacked every phase of the
01:48:43
investigation the police searched that house and they screwed a lot of stuff up where you at the bedroom he wanted to
01:48:49
know why it took police so long to get to the crime seen in the first place mess you get a 911 call from a lady
01:48:58
who's hysterical that says there was an intruder and my husband's been shot and it takes him 30 40 minutes to get to the
01:49:04
scene well Chief Norton says that he was there in 15 minutes even 15 minutes is crazy prosecutors had one other huge
01:49:12
problem proving a motive why would Sandra want to kill her husband who was her caretaker we did not have one set
01:49:23
motive here is the motive this is the reason why she killed him in Texas prosecutors don't have to prove motive
01:49:30
but as a human being everybody wants to know why but papa says there was one person who was close to John and may
01:49:37
well have had a motive to kill him and what's more at every turn in the case he was
01:49:47
there Sandra's son Wes we knew Wes was going to be a problem from get-go what I say to you are you going to play it back
01:49:54
to my mom West does look [Music] bad Wes should have been a suspect defense attorney Tom papis says the
01:50:14
police made one of their biggest mistakes when they ruled out one suspect so let's talk about Wes Sandra's own son
01:50:23
Wes his conduct when you really look at it objectively and look at Sandra objectively is more suspicious than
01:50:30
hers everything Wes did was kind of suspicious prosecutor Lindy batty I did have a lot of heartburn over it when we
01:50:37
were going through case preparation and we knew Wes was going to be an absolute train wreck and he
01:50:43
was Wes was involved in this case early on just hours after Jon was killed Wes was the one who pointed the finger at
01:50:53
his mother what your thoughts mom and he kept at it questioning details of her story dog big
01:51:06
dog the dogs how the so and so knew how to get him and for somebody to sneak up on him
01:51:15
like that one of the hardest things about the case was the magnitude of Wes's disloyalty to her and the things he was
01:51:27
doing to try to get her blamed for this she has never acted like this before just jumped out
01:51:34
at Sandra now says she has come to believe the worst thing a mother could believe about her child who do you think
01:51:42
killed John I think it was Wesley papa says those chilling Google searches on Sandra's iPad and iPhone
01:51:56
could have been done by Wes he says Wes had access to the devices that did not require a password there's one thing
01:52:05
everybody said about Sandra and John it's they went to bed at 9:30 those web searches were done between 11: and
01:52:11
midnight just 4 days before the murder and papis says on that same night Wes was at their house he's the one that did
01:52:21
the website not not her when searching for 16 ways 16 ways to kill you don't know that for sure but go ahead he he's
01:52:28
well we I don't know who else it could have been I don't think it was John Wes wouldn't answer our questions but he
01:52:33
always seemed willing to answer investigators questions especially about his mother and her gun think of a
01:52:42
revolver she used to keep it in her purse that I understand underne her car that's where the last time she kept
01:52:50
it he's being a little a little bit too helpful with the police saying hey you know look here after the police searched
01:52:57
and failed to find the gun Lieutenant Shane Thompson talked to Wes again somebody said that your mom owned a 38
01:53:06
revolver she does have a revolver but I thought it was in her Mustang and she said she never put in
01:53:14
her Mustang and if she did it'll be underneath the seat underneath the seat the next day police searched for
01:53:23
the gun one more time where do they find it they find it under the sea those things really did cause some
01:53:32
concern Wes does look bad it began to look like someone was setting her up and I don't know the Wes did that but it
01:53:40
sure looks suspicious and and his conduct was just unexplainable papis believes Wes might have more of a motive
01:53:48
to kill John than Sandra did he says Wes needed money money and mistakenly believed he was in John's will was he
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ever a suspect in this no he wasn't my suspect after all Wes told Chief Boyd Norton he had an alibi for the time JN
01:54:06
was murdered I went back home Dr six pack of beer and watch Netflix and Netflix and phone records seem to help
01:54:15
corroborate his story at least for a while there was a record that he'd been on Netflix until about 12 12:30 there
01:54:22
was some phone calls that were made oh my God it's perfect like he's got an alibi this is fantastic until we look at
01:54:28
the records and we're like no know that that's not the right time prosecutors discovered investigators had made a
01:54:35
mistake the times on those records weren't recorded in Central Standard Time the local time which means there
01:54:43
was actually no evidence that Wes was watching Netflix or on the phone at the time John was killed didn't look good
01:54:51
that the s didn't know which time zone they were dealing with no it did not I would imagine it did not help your case
01:54:59
no they didn't look at Wes they didn't understand that he didn't have an alibi and that's an example of where they just
01:55:05
gloss over stuff they thought they had a rock solid Alibi for West and in fact that was not the case how's flored
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that the prosecutors insist even though they say Wes looks suspicious at times and he has no alibi they are confident
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he is not the killer once you meet Wes it's over if you just talk to him for any length of time you know he is just
01:55:31
not capable of committing this type of crime he's just not smart enough honestly and she says his stomach isn't
01:55:38
strong enough there's no way that guy can go put a bullet in some guy's head that he loves sees some blood and
01:55:45
they're not be a vomit Trail you know all the way back home and if Wes did break into the house that night and have
01:55:51
a convers with Sandra batty wonders how could Sandra not recognize him my God people if it was Wes Miller she would
01:56:01
know her own son there's no way she doesn't know if it's him there's no way wouldn't recognize
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his voice I would think I would recognize his voice but after hearing shots just all the
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drama I can see why I didn't recogn has it your own son yes pardon me for saying
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this but it it it's hard to believe I don't know I just I didn't recognize it there are a lot of questions for
01:56:37
Sandra and unlike most defendants in murder cases she decided to take the stand cameras were not allowed in the
01:56:45
courtroom for her testimony I felt like if it went wrong for me if I didn't testify what if I could have saved it
01:56:51
were you comfortable putting her up no of course not you're never comfortable when your client takes a witness stand
01:56:56
Sandra had trouble on the stand she struggled to aners some of the questions during a lengthy
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cross-examination I think there were some questions about the website searches and the searches surrounding
01:57:09
that that were that were difficult and she simply didn't remember stuff and they were able to make some points I
01:57:16
thought that we were able to show that she was a liar as the case goes to the jury Sandra
01:57:25
should know soon if taking the stand was the smart move whatever happened I had to deal with
01:57:32
[Applause] it it took 1 month 27 Witnesses and more more than 400 pieces of evidence for the
01:57:55
case against Sandra Garner to finally go to the jury and when it did neither side
01:58:01
was very confident I think I was probably 50/50 at the end of it I felt like we ended well so I was hopeful I
01:58:10
was extremely confident one minute and just distraught the next the jurors however seemed very clear about their
01:58:17
views they came back with a verdict in just 3 hours hours God I was nervous cuz it all comes down to this you're
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thinking God please I've done the right thing please found Justice for this family Sandra's daughter Andrea was
01:58:34
holding her breath the longest 3 hours of my life what did the quick verdict mean it
01:58:44
was anyone's guess I did not think it was good for us yes I didn't feel that they had gone through all of the
01:58:51
evidence again oh my heart must have stopped this is bad it's not good at all trying to say that so Sandra wouldn't
01:58:58
hear please be in front of a packed courtroom get on the record the judge read the decision if the defendant will
01:59:05
please stand the last thing I remember is the juror handing the paper to the BFF and I look down I could not look I
01:59:18
wasn't ready for a guilty verdict we the jury finded defendant Sandra Louise Garner not
01:59:25
[Music] guilty not guilty and just like that Sandra Garner was a free woman after 21
01:59:35
months in jail I felt wonderful I turned to Tom and was say yay yay and we hugged each other I get to go
01:59:45
home think those are the sweetest words I've ever heard in my life it was like a weight had been lifted off of my
01:59:55
shoulders they had been carrying for nearly 2 years I gave her the biggest hug I could
02:00:00
I was so happy for her I I tear up just thinking about it I mean she's she's got
02:00:06
a chance to try to get some of her life back of course like every verdict this one was not universally popular I just
02:00:16
remember thinking they got that wrong what there's no way there's no no way I don't want to watch this there's no
02:00:26
happy ending to this this isn't happy at all unless of course you are Sandra [Music]
02:00:39
Garner we caught up with her the moment she was released from jail feels wonderful feels
02:00:47
wonderful I was just praying to God my husband and my daddy just to help them say not guilty
02:00:55
please Sandra was eager to get back home to the same house where her husband was
02:01:01
murdered and I love my house and I know it's hard and I know people think I'm crazy for one to be
02:01:08
here but I just want to be as close to him as I can living here will mean living across
02:01:18
the street from John's parents who still are convinced Ed Sandra is a murderess who killed their son and whose family is
02:01:27
still grieving John should still be alive we should still be a family that was taken from us there should be
02:01:33
Justice for his killer there's not there never will be none of us have talked to her none of us
02:01:40
want to talk to her Andrea Miller is worried about her mother one of the most important pieces
02:01:49
of her life isn't here and she has to live with that on a daily basis [ __ ] come here I'm scared that something's
02:01:57
going to happen to her baby I give you copy Sandra's attorney Tom papis is also worried about her
02:02:06
safety there's a murderer that hasn't been arrested that's still out there she s part of Sandra's U I'm tearing up now
02:02:14
part of Sandra's well let me ask why you tearing up tell me about her because I care about her I care what happens to
02:02:21
her I care what happens to the people around her whatever happens to Sandra it likely will happen without her son Wes
02:02:29
prosecutors and police believe they tried the right person and don't consider Wes a suspect but Sandra and
02:02:37
Andrea are no longer speaking to him he does not deserve to be part of my mother's life anymore as far as I'm
02:02:44
concerned I don't have a brother anymore this is a tough question do you still love your son
02:02:53
not like I used to now I I have not spoke to him at all he did me really wrong and what toll is that taking on
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you it's very hurtful but he chose that I didn't Sandra Garner is now free to spend time with what remains of her
02:03:13
family she knows others still see her as a killer who got away with it in the eyes of the law she is not guilty
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and the case against her is forever closed under the law you cannot be charged with this crime
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again um even if you say you did it so let me ask you did you kill your husband no man was a ling my life could told you
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he was all I had he was going to take care of me for the rest of my life without him I have nobody
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no I didn't kill my [Music] husband 48 hours to miss it would be a crime were you at all prepared for what
02:04:08
happened in this case [Music]

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Episode Highlights

  • A Life of Misunderstanding
    Jasmine reflects on how people perceive her as a spoiled rich girl, but insists she's more than that.
    “I think a lot of people misjudge me.”
    @ 04m 09s
    December 14, 2024
  • The Accidental Shooting
    Jasmine admits to accidentally shooting her friend Henry Jamaat, leading to a manslaughter charge.
    “It was absolutely not murder.”
    @ 19m 59s
    December 14, 2024
  • The Tragic Death of Henry Jamat
    Henry Jamat's murder deeply affects his family and community, raising questions about justice.
    “The truth is revealed in how and where he was shot.”
    @ 27m 26s
    December 14, 2024
  • Jasmine Harton's Legal Struggles
    Jasmine faces serious charges and public scrutiny following Henry's death, complicating her life further.
    “Jasmine lost custody of her children in 2022 and is not allowed to visit them anymore.”
    @ 40m 21s
    December 14, 2024
  • The Mystery of Kelly Dwi's Disappearance
    Kelly Dwi vanishes under mysterious circumstances, prompting urgent searches and investigations.
    “It's like she just isn't anymore.”
    @ 45m 19s
    December 14, 2024
  • Cadaver Dog Alert
    A canine's alert in Sako's apartment leads police to believe Kelly is dead.
    “This moment changed this case forever.”
    @ 58m 37s
    December 14, 2024
  • Discovery of Remains
    Kelly DWI's remains are found, leading to renewed investigation into her death.
    “It is just too much of a coincidence.”
    @ 01h 14m 12s
    December 14, 2024
  • Justice for Kelly
    After years of uncertainty, Chris Zako is found guilty of reckless homicide in Kelly's case.
    “Finally after 5 years of waiting and wondering, there is Justice for Kelly.”
    @ 01h 21m 03s
    December 14, 2024
  • Sandra's Arrest
    Sandra Garner is arrested after police find the murder weapon in her car, leading to her trial.
    “It was just a little piece of Justice at that moment for John.”
    @ 01h 42m 24s
    December 14, 2024
  • Wes's Suspicion
    Wes, Sandra's son, becomes a point of contention as his actions raise suspicion.
    “Wes should have been a suspect.”
    @ 01h 50m 12s
    December 14, 2024
  • Sandra's Emotional Testimony
    Sandra takes the stand, revealing her struggles and emotional turmoil during the trial.
    “I felt like if it went wrong for me, I could have saved it.”
    @ 01h 56m 47s
    December 14, 2024
  • Sandra's Acquittal
    After 21 months in jail, Sandra Garner is found not guilty, bringing her immense relief.
    “I felt wonderful. I get to go home!”
    @ 01h 59m 38s
    December 14, 2024

Episode Quotes

  • There's not a night that goes by I don't dream about that incident.
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  • I had no motive to do that to my friend.
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  • She was never seen alive by anyone again.
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  • It is just too much of a coincidence.
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  • It was just a little piece of Justice at that moment for John.
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  • I felt wonderful. I get to go home!
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Key Moments

  • Misjudged04:09
  • Henry's Funeral27:50
  • Jasmine's Arrest30:39
  • Kelly's Last Night45:25
  • Last Sighting53:38
  • Arrest and Trial1:42:24
  • Sandra's Release1:59:31
  • Family Tensions2:03:16

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