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foreign [Music] ER made his first court appearance in Idaho to face four charges of
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first-degree murder if convicted co-burger faces life in prison and possibly the death penalty at his
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initial appearance he'll hear the charges against him count two alleges that you committed
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murder in the first degree count three murder in the first degree count four Murder in the First number five alleges
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that you committed in high school he would talk he would laugh and stuff like that but when I saw him a couple years
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later was just kind of creepy I don't know what happened it's like a switch went off and he just changed the newly
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released affidavit reveals so much information it's about how police tracked the suspect down DNA phone
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records and a witness Brian coburger was studying criminal justice and criminology right here at Washington
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State University it was really shocking because of all the different parts of my
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life that were tied to this as a journalist as a teacher of college students and and certainly as a father
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and a citizen here since the gruesome murders at a house off campus at the University of Idaho
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the town of Moscow remains in shock we hear so many stories now about Maddie and Kaylee and Ethan and Santa about how
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close they were the type of people they were it's devastating to hear that it's heart-wrenching what do you want the
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world to know about your daughter Kaylee this was a person that was going to go into your community and make it better
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all these kids were going to make your community better you would want them as your neighbor you'd want them to
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interact with your children Zannah kernodle [Music] she was so positive and light-hearted
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and understood the gift of life more than anyone I know Ethan Chapin today we're here to honor The Life and
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Legacy of our son Ethan Chapin one of the most incredible people you'll ever know
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Madison Mogan my only child that we ever had and uh so just smart and funny and beautiful
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Kaylee Gonzalez you know most things as a dad you can you can handle but something like that you just can't
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prepare for and you can't fix it as a father that's a terrible feeling as a professor here on this campus I
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want to know what is the motive why do something like this how did he know Maddie and Kaylee and Ethan and Santa if
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indeed he is the person who committed this crime Brian is not tried in the court of
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public opinion he has that presumption of innocence I honestly think he did it because he wants to see if he can get
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away with it are you hoping to make eye contact with Brian at some point eye contact's a
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guarantee I definitely want to let him know that uh I'm not going anywhere we're not going anywhere this day of
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court is not just for him it's it's for everybody foreign [Music] thank you [Music]
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[Music] foreign [Music] Sky investigators flew Brian coburger to the college town of Moscow police
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delivered him to the Lata County Jail on January 5th in an orange jumpsuit face vacant the 28 year old made what
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will likely be his first of many appearances in this court he stands charged with the murder of
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four students from the University of Idaho Kaylee gonsalves Madison Maddie Mogan
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Ethan Chapin and Zana kernodle investigators say he stabbed them to death in the home the women shared the
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maximum penalty for this offense if you plead guilty or found guilty is up to death and imprisonment for life do you
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understand yes coburger has not yet entered a plea in an affidavit investigators laid out
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their understanding of the Grim details about the night of the killings they say
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the killer left his DNA on a leather knife sheath like this one found on a bed next to Maddie Mogan
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and most hauntingly they say a surviving roommate thought she heard crying and saw a figure clad in Black clothing and
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a mask the man walked past as she stood in Frozen shock she locked herself in her room
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we will have more details on this fast-moving investigation authorities have not disclosed a motive or if he had
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a connection to the students but tonight we are learning more about just who Brian coburger is
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just 15 days before his arrest Brian coburger and his father were driving home from Washington State University
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for winter break to the family's home in Pennsylvania hello how you doing how y'all doing today the journey
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interrupted by two traffic stops almost 10 minutes apart in Indiana for tailgating
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oh okay the real little we're slightly much because we drive the powers police body
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cam video shows coburger and his father talking calmly with an officer about the
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trip hours days then they are released with a warning do me a favor don't follow too close okay
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coburger had been at the University since August studying to get his PhD in criminology he was also a teaching
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assistant in the Department of Criminal Justice he lived in an apartment complex
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on campus and had an office there according to the newly released affidavit coburger had applied for an
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internship with the Pullman Police Department in the fall he wrote in his application essay that quote he had
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interest in assisting rural law enforcement agencies with how to better collect and analyze technological data
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Benjamin Roberts took four classes with coburger he seemed very comfortable around other people he was fairly quick
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to offer his opinion and thoughts and he was always participating fairly eagerly
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in classroom discussions he says kohlberger appeared highly intelligent does anything else come to mind that
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Brian said to you in the past that today you think might be of interest now there was a comment that he made and
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it was this kind of a flippant guy talk thing at one point he just idly mentioned you know I can go down to a
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boat or a club and just have pretty much any lady I want Ryan coburger coburger arrived at the University after earning
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his bachelor's in psychology and master's degree in criminal justice at Desales University in Center Valley
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Pennsylvania while at Desales authorities say Brian coburger posted this survey approved by
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the university on the website Reddit asking ex-cons about the crimes they committed one question he asked before
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making your move how did you approach the victim or Target this could be a piece of circumstantial
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evidence James Galliano is a retired FBI supervisory special agent and CBS News consultant the fact that the suspect was
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interested in pursuing a PhD in criminal justice and was especially interested in
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the mental state that people who had committed murders in the past yes it could be interesting to note but I know
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a lot of researchers that study those things too that would never commit a quadruple homicide
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and if co-burger was involved in these murders genetic genealogists CC Moore questions why he would be so careless as
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to allegedly leave his DNA at the crime scene people are talking about how smart
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he supposedly is I just can't see how that could be true because any student of forensic science or criminology would
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have to know that it's virtually impossible not to leave your DNA behind at a very violent intimate crime scene
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like this you know Ted Bundy thought he was smart but he wasn't that smart as it
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turns out after the murders Roberts says coburger appeared disheveled tired and chattier
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than usual but nothing could prepare Roberts for when he learned of coburger's arrest
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looking back over the last four months is that I feel like there should have been signs
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that I should have seen and I didn't I was blindsided this is out of character for Brian these allegations Monroe
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County public defender Jason labarr represented coburger before he was extradited to Idaho the family would
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want the general public to know that Brian is a caring son and brother that he's responsible
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that he is devoted to them in a statement the family said we care deeply for the four families who have
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lost their precious children and that they seek the truth and promote his presumption of innocence rather than
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judge unknown facts and make erroneous assumptions he is innocent and pill proven otherwise
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labar says coburger came from a close-knit family he grew up in eastern Pennsylvania in the Pocono Mountains his
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father was a maintenance worker and his mom worked in the school system Brian has two older sisters one who works as a
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family therapist and another sister who appeared in a 2011 low-budget slasher film two days back about a group of
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young students viciously murdered by a serial killer things change she now works as a school counselor my heart
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goes out to Brian's family this is Cole Burger's friend Bree who says she met co-burger at a party when they attended
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Pleasant Valley High School she asked us not to use her last name Brian was really funny he wasn't
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outgoing at all he was but he also wasn't shy he says they bonded over their love of
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the outdoors I don't necessarily remember the conversations but you definitely remember how someone makes
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you feel I just remember feeling okay I was just with a friend it just felt natural Bree recalls coburger was
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an average student with only a few close friends in this yearbook photo coburger's caption said he aspired to be
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an Army Ranger I used to be friends with Brian coburger Casey Ernst also knew co-burger from
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high school she posted this Tick Tock following Brian's arrest I am just an absolute shopper
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he was an overweight kid so he did get bullied a lot but Casey says people saw a change in coburger beginning of senior
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year he lost like 100 pounds he was a real it was after that weight loss that a lot of people
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noticed a huge switch in him my brother has since come out to say that even though they were friends Brian bullied
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him and he had said like he would put him in like choke holds and stuff like that
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Bree says coburger started using heroin which ended their friendship you just saw him becoming more self-destructive
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he really stayed secluded it's unclear when exactly coburger went into recovery but both Bree and Casey
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say years after he graduated high school it appeared as if he was getting his life together
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he was going to Northampton Community College and working security for Pleasant Valley School District
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he was telling me that he wanted to get sober that he was getting sober and he just wanted to let
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me know like I'm gonna do better I'm gonna be better I'm sorry last time I saw Ryan was in 2017 at one
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of my friend's wedding and I gave him a hug and I was like you look so good like
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I'm so proud of you I just remember being very happy for him and both Bree and Casey say it appeared
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that coburger had a new Focus his studies in criminology he wanted to do something that
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impacted people in a good way people are not his strong suit and I think through
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his criminology studies he was really trying to understand humans and try to understand himself
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now Bree like many who knew him struggles to connect the person they once knew to this unspeakable crime I
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think a lot of people who were close to him are feeling this massive amounts of guilt why didn't I
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see it did I miss something where did it go wrong before this was a crime scene it was a
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home to these five close friends maybe none closer than Maddie Mogan and Kayleigh gonsalves
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guys on Tick Tock the 21 year old seniors looked like they were enjoying their final school year
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you're gonna choose me baby in the early morning of November 13th the two friends headed to a food truck
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but they're seemingly Carefree existence would come to an abrupt end just hours later Kaylee and Maddie were stabbed to
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death in the upstairs part of the house a hundred miles away in northern Idaho Kaylee's father Steve got the news and
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Steve give us a sense of the shock of that moment you just feel like you're getting crushed by a thousand pounds of
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weight [Music] what do you want the world to know about your daughter Kaylee [Music]
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I want the one to know they they got robbed somebody stole from you Steve Gonzalez says his daughter Kaylee
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would have made the world a better place a General Studies major she was the middle child of five siblings Steve says
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Kaylee was always up for a challenge she grew up around two boys that were you know older than her and uh she
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didn't see any reason why she couldn't be as quick and fast and as good as those two boys were what did she want to
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do with her life like most young people it changed she was going to be a teacher
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but once you found out how long it was going to take to pay back your student loans she she said dad you know this
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thing you do with computer seems to work pretty well she reportedly had a job lined up in Austin but made it clear
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that one day she hoped to settle down somewhere near her dearest friend Maddie Mogan Maddie was a marketing major and
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she and Kaylee had been Inseparable since the sixth grade I just felt like it was more of a sister ship than it was
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friendship so and she was just one of our kids so it perhaps did not come as a surprise when
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Steve revealed at a November Memorial that Kaylee and Maddie died side by side they went to high schools together they
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came here together and in the end they died together in the same room in the same bed it
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Comforts us it lets us know that they were with their best friends in the whole world
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it was a belief Maddie's stepfather Scott Laramie repeated to another packed Memorial just days later
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the two of them were of course to be reckoned with they stuck together through everything
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Maddie had a boyfriend Jake schreiger she was the first person I talked to every morning and the last person I
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talked to before bed they had been together for more than a year Jake says Maddie had a talent for making people
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laugh she was really funny her jokes really would come out of nowhere and just be
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like is that the cute little blonde girl that just said that but Maddie and Kaylee weren't the only victims while
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two other roommates were in their rooms and unharmed during the attacks on the second floor the killer made his way to
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the room of Zana kernodle she was my baby sister but she was so much wiser zanna's sister Jasmine she
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would always tell me she wouldn't know what to do without me and now I have to live this life without her a 20 year old
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Junior majoring in marketing Zanna was known for being focused on her studies so focused she didn't make much time for
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dating Santa never had a boyfriend before and my dad and I wondered if she was ever
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gonna get one that was until she met Ethan Chapin the way she would talk and smile about him
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was something I've never seen her do before Ethan was a 20 year old majoring in Recreation and tourism management
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Jasmine says Zanna and Ethan began dating in the spring of 2022. they had something so special and
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everyone around them knew especially anyone who followed the pair on Instagram for Ethan's birthday Zanna
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posted photos of them with the caption life is so much better with you in it love you
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it would be her last Instagram just two weeks later the young couple was found stabbed to death in Santa's bedroom
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at the University of Idaho the pain of this tragedy is felt at the root and extends hundreds of miles away to a
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tulip farm in Skagit Valley Washington it's where Ethan worked before heading to college his boss Andrew Miller so
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Ethan started it was in the spring of of 21. it was the best Tula Festival Miller
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says the annual tulip festival attracts close to half a million visitors and Ethan stood out in the crowd he's a big
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guy wearing a big smile right I think that's the part that I that that kind of struck me right away Ethan a triplet
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worked there with his siblings Maisie and Hunter and lived in a rented house on the farm with their parents
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that Chapin triplets were Incredibly Close says Rhys Gardner they were best friends if one did something they all
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did something it was pretty cool to see including attending the University of Idaho together and that was the funniest
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thing it was like of course it was a package deal like all three of them were gonna go there he was excited I think
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because his siblings were going with him Araya Macaba says Ethan's parents had decided to live in Idaho too makaba says
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when she heard Ethan had been murdered she couldn't believe it I think the first thing I did was
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message Ethan I was like hey you're okay right like this isn't real and uh obviously didn't respond
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Rhys Gardner scoured the internet for information and I just couldn't stop reading articles and I just wanted to
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know what happened and I wanted to know why but in lieu of answers Gardner turned to
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tulips that's going to be so it's gonna be so pretty he had an idea name one after Ethan I thought there's there's no
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better way to remember someone who had such a big part a big role in those Farms because Rhys called me and it was
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hey can this be done and are you interested in doing it and I was yes and hell yes
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but creating a new tulip is a long process so instead Miller suggested a mix of tulips that would be a perfect
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tribute to Ethan yellow and white yellow of course because go vandals University
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of Idaho right that's significant and then white is is an eternal color right and tulips come up in the spring it is a
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symbol of of of Hope with his parents blessing they named the mix of tulips Ethan's smile yeah so this will be a
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nice yellow or white tulip here in about four months the trio planted thousands of bulbs in the state of Washington and
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sent a couple thousand more to the University of Idaho and it really is our hope that we'll be able to continue to
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plant that anybody that wants to remember them will be able to have their own Ethan's Ethan smile Garden it's a
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living Legacy now it is up to prosecutors to get Justice for these young victims
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47 days after the murders of Kaylee gonsalves Ethan Chapin Madison Mogan and Zana kernodle authorities apprehended
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the man they believed was responsible we now know investigators had Brian kohlberger in their sights early on but
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kept it close to the vest so in the early days after the November 13th murders frustrations swept over Moscow
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Idaho think in this instance people are expecting a pretty quick arrest in this case and it takes time police still have
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no suspect weapon or motive no arrests have been made no suspects identified by police investigators are asking the
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public to be patient Steve can solve this father of 21 year old Kaylee was trying as best he could to deal with
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news no one expects most things I'm prepared for most things as a dad you can you can handle but
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something like that you just can't prepare for and you can't fix it you know just
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think if you do everything right by the book something like this couldn't happen
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did you have any sense who might have done something like this no I didn't think anybody in Inner Circle was was
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capable of interacting in her doing something that could even deserve something like that as new spread of the
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murders so did shock in the College Community which had not seen a homicide since 2015. parents drove hundreds of
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miles to pick up their kids to head home and stay home for the semester Matt Loveless is a journalism professor at
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nearby Washington State University at this point we don't know if they're going to come back for the spring
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semester they're on campus and so that same thing happened in both of our communities and so when parents send
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their kids off to school for something to happen like this I think it's a parent's worst nightmare
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James Galliano is a retired FBI supervisory special agent and CBS News consultant it's a place Moscow Idaho
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where violent crime really is not an issue as police started their investigation
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they traced the victim's final steps the day before the murders seemed to start ordinarily Kaylee gonsalves posted
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photos with her roommates and Ethan Chapin to her Instagram account with the caption one lucky girl to be surrounded
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by these people every day that evening Ethan and Santa attended a party at a frat house on campus Kaylee
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and Madison were at a bar between 10 p.m and 1 30 A.M they were then seen at that
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local food vendor the grub truck it is believed they all returned home by about 2 A.M on November 13th
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so in examining the timeline police know that the crime took place sometime in the early morning hours there were also
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two other university Idaho students who were inside the house when the murders took place
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it was later that morning that a call was made to 9-1-1 from one of the surviving roommates phones to report an
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unconscious person police arrived at the house at 11 58 A.M police find the victims on the second
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and third floor of the house in bedrooms a horrific and a very large-scale crime
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scene because you're going to be dealing with a number of different floors that need to be processed the bedrooms where
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the crimes actually occurred and then Ingress and egress points how did the how did the alleged killer get inside
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the house through a front door through a window those are all things police would
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be looking at no weapon has been located at this time there was no sign of forced entry into
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the residence on November 16th three days after the murders the Moscow police held their first press conference we
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believe this was an isolated targeted attack on our victims we do not have a suspect at this time
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and that individual is still out there coroner Kathy mobbit issued her report on November 17th they were all murdered
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through stabbing with with some kind of a probably a larger knife she told police some of the four victims had
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defensive wounds but none had signs of sexual assault police continued to work the case aided by the Idaho State Police
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and the FBI I just believe that the Moscow Police Department probably just didn't have a lot of experience in
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working a homicide especially one as heinous as this one after about three weeks with no arrests and what to the
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public appeared to be no real suspects Steve gonsalves grew more concerned that authorities weren't doing enough and
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that the murders would turn into a Cold Case so he says he started working with his
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own team to investigate the murders we just thought this is the time let's get it out there
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and let's not let it get cold let's get as many resources as as possible did you
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have any sense whatsoever as to what a motive might have been for these murders pretty girls
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and a handsome guy I I thought you know there might be something to do with there you know
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stalking them in the sense of that meanwhile names of possible people of Interest were trickling out including
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members of the community and acquaintances of the victims but they all seem to be part of an unfounded
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Rumor Mill many from online sluths Steve even had people come to him to prove they were not involved we had
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certain suspects take their shirts off in our kitchen to show if they had scratches we tried to do everything in
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our in our powers to make sure that if we thought somebody was ruled out we truly we truly felt like you know we we
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looked at him law enforcement would end up receiving thousands of tips but the investigation
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by outward appearances seemed to be stalled nearly a month after the murders on December 7th police were seen packing
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up the victim's belongings to return to the families who had lost so much it was the police chief behind the wheel
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of the U-Haul truck that same day a plea was made to the public police were interested in speaking with
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the occupant of a white 2011 to 2013 Hyundai Elantra that looks similar to this with an unknown license plate
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spotted near the crime scene around the time of the killings today's update is the first descriptive tip that we've
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received in several days detectives now want to speak with anyone who is inside a white Hyundai Elantra that was near
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this home on King Road around November 13th we still believe there's more information to be gathered
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pushing that out to the media pushing that out to people on the internet pushing that out so that people can look
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for either a potential suspect a person of interest or a potential vehicle that goes a long way towards running down
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leads [Music] it turns out that about two weeks before the police asked the public to be on the
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lookout for a white Hyundai Elantra they had already shared that information with
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surrounding law enforcement and on November 29th a white Elantra was located by Washington State University
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Police the car was registered to Brian coburger CBS News learned that in mid-December
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the Hyundai Elantra was tracked for several days by the FBI using Easy Pass monitoring fixed-wing aircraft and
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ground support as it was driven by co-burger along with his father from Pullman Washington on that cross-country
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trip to the family's home in Pennsylvania where are you headed on December 15th the car was stopped twice in Indiana for
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those driving violations by the Indiana State Police and the Hancock sheriff's office if you're coming from Washington
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State University and you're going where oh both agencies said at the time of the
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stops there was no information available on a suspect for the crime in Idaho to include identifying information or any
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specific information related to the license plate state or number of the white Hyundai Elantra do me a favor
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don't follow too close Okay police did not ticket Cole Burger they gave a verbal warning and the trip continued
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home and then coburger's holiday came to an abrupt halt a suspect is under arrest
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for the quadruple murder of four Idaho college students on December 30th 2022 police made that announcement that Brian
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coburger was under arrest for the murders he was arrested at his family's home in albrightsville Pennsylvania at 3
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A.M with approximately 50 law enforcement officers on the scene there were multiple windows that were broken I
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believe to gain access as well as multiple tours authorities believe Brian coburger acted alone Brian was very
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shocked by his arrest Brian did not know why they were there but he was aware of
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the case ongoing in Idaho Monroe County public defender Jason labarr represented
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holberger in Pennsylvania as he was awaiting extradition to Idaho Brian indicated to me that he was eager
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to be exonerated that he was willing to go back to Idaho on January 3rd at a hearing in Pennsylvania coburger signed
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his waiver of extradition they're squirting him off the tarmac there and on January 4th he flew to Idaho where he
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is in jail charged with the four murders all right this is state of Idaho versus Brian
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culberger on January 5th coburger appeared in court in Moscow with his new public defender to hear the charges read
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against him he has yet to enter a plea the maximum penalty for this offense if you were to plead guilty or be found
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guilty is death or imprisonment for life do you understand yes that same day that affidavit was
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released that laid out startling new details about the murder investigation according to the affidavit one of the
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surviving roommates actually saw the murderer and stood in a frozen shock phase she is referred to as DM in the
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affidavit and told police that earlier she heard a female voice say something to the effect of there's someone here
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and later a male voice saying something to the effect of it's okay I'm going to help you
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later she opened her door after she heard crying and saw a figure clad in Black clothing and a mask
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she described the figure as five foot ten with bushy eyebrows the affidavit states that according to
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DM the male walked toward the back sliding door and DM locked herself in her room
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it was later in the morning when that call was made to 9-1-1 from one of the surviving roommates phones to report an
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unconscious person it is unclear what occurred in the hours before police were called
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It is believed the murders took place between 4 and 4 25 A.M police say they discovered on the bed in
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Madison's room a knife sheath with a marine Insignia that looks similar to this one I would imagine that a crime
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scene as as grisly and ghastly as this one that there would have been DNA left by the perpetrator according to the
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affidavit the knife sheath was processed and the Idaho State lab later located a
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single source of male DNA on the button snap they were able to link it to DNA recovered from the trash at the
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Pennsylvania coburger family home it is not clear what if any connection coburger had with the victims however
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the affidavit states that by using cellular phone data police were able to place coburger's cell phone near the
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crime scene on at least 12 occasions before November 13 2022 all of those occasions except for one
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occurred in the late evening and early morning hours even with these new details many
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questions remain a newly issued gag order prohibits officials and others involved in the case from speaking about
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the murders also authorities have sealed a search warrant that was carried out at
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coburger's home in Pullman Washington this is one where you don't want a mistake you don't want something to
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happen during this process that's going to give the alleged suspect an opportunity to beat the case now the
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case will work its way through the court system as parents who lost their children
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will be looking for answers we find the truth you know you get the truth and then that that'll that'll be
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everything [Music] you can see it in the stunned silent faces of the kids faces that ask why without even speaking
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young eyes glisten bathed in the glow of Candlelight a ritual all too familiar Across America the flowers prayers the
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vows to carry on in Idaho they hold on tight to each other and to the memories of those loved and
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lost [Music] [Applause] [Music] and the friends [Music] life is so unfair and unpredictable
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for Santa cronodle's friend Emily the wound remains Raw a little tired until we'll find Justice For You Ethan Maddie
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and Kaylee we love you all so much and for Ashland Maddie mogan's memory is still vibrant
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you truly will live on forever not only in my heart but in the heart of so many people that were impacted by
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your beautiful smile Your Grace your patience your open heart and your craziness Hunter Johnson
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remembers of pal he could rely on Ethan Chapin Ethan was always someone you could count on to
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make you smile and cheer up your mood and I I feel so lucky so I've shared so many great memories
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with him but those who are older perhaps sense that pain that runs this deep never goes
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away Kaylee's father Steve gonsalves yeah you don't heal from something like this it's never gonna happen you're
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never gonna be healed you're never gonna get through this when they died part of you dies
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we're tired of all these type of crimes we're tired of all this stuff and um we can rally around these
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terrible tragedies and we're hoping that as a society we come back stronger and we we decide to not let this be accepted
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anymore you know that's what I hope for [Music] fantastic actress she wanted to be in
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movies a cosplay model charged with her fiance's murder I didn't do what they're
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saying I did now will the jury believe she's not acting who do you believe killed Matthew Trussler Melissa Turner
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