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[Music] Auburn Alabama is home to Auburn University which is a major football school in a college town it happens that
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students sometimes may go often you know they may be missing for a little while but they come
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back Lori was a student at Auburn University and she had recently graduated June 10th 2006 which is the
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fateful day in Lor's life we were going to have drinks at my house we were going
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to have um rum runners I believe and watch a movie and just kind of hang out do girl time she called me around 6:30
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and said I'm going to stop by the store pick up the drink mixes and then I'll be
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headed to your house and then the phone rang about 30 minutes later it rang once
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or twice I answered no one was there how many times had she simply not showed up
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and not called you never my daughter was a very good person a kind person a loving girl very
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studious student she loved Sports loved her dog she had a little Yorkie named Peanut that was her baby when did you
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realize that something was wrong I was at work A lady called I believe it was her boss and she told me that I just
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want to tell you your daughter Lori has not showed up for work and right away bells and whistles went off I called her
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and she didn't answer her phone I called her house several times left voicemails
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on her home answering machine you go over to her mobile home the door was unlocked which was not like her the air
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condition was running her dog peanut was in the crate we walked through the house she
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wasn't there what are you thinking something's terribly wrong there is no way she would
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have left peanut this is it it's about 4:40 a.m. 4 days after Lori is missing the car was right here dead in the
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center engulfed in flames was Lori in this car Lori was not in the vehicle there was no trace of her
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whatsoever I mean none just vanished just vanished and nobody knows what happened to Lori
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slazinski I know somebody that knows Rick Enis your daughter had no idea about his past no I met Rick Enis
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when he was 12 years old he's sitting back there in that seat behind you and I said where are your
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parents he looks right back at me and he says I killed them both [Music] [Music]
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I can still see her smile her smile is just edged in my memory to this day Lindsay braa is
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haunted by the final call from Lorie slazinski on June 10th 2006 when they were supposed to get together for drinks
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and a movie that last call did it indicate it was her phone yes she calls and it hangs up yes and no one's there
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just no one was there it was just dead end did you call her right back I did no answer Lori and Lindsay became fast
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friends when they met junior year at Auburn University in 2002 I remember the day I met her we just kind of
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immediately clicked I could just tell that she was a warm person very friendly just outgoing
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loving all those good things Lorie's family her older brother Paul and their parents arleene and Casey were actually
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from New York State they headed south to rural Alabama Farm country when Lori was
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13 years old just loved animals we always had animals in our house Lorie's mother arleene very student a student
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she was a good girl when she enrolled in nearby Auburn University her parents bought Lori a
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mobile home to live off- campus in a manicured trailer park popular with students so from valad dictorian of her
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high school class was it tough for you to see your baby girl leave the house and head off to University oh yeah it
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was very tough I called her every day she's like Mom this has got to stop I was like but you're my baby and I worry
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about you don't worry about me I'm fine Lori majored in Psychology and minored in criminal justice she graduated with
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honors there she is with Mom and Dad she looks so happy there she was she was over the moon happy after graduation Lor
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and Lindsay started working together at a local mental health facility did you sense that she had any enemy in this
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world no the day that Lori disappeared June 10th 20 six was anyone with Lori that
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day Rick was at her house Rick Was Daryl Richard Andis when I had spoken to her he was in the
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background Lori got to know Rick back when she was still a student she hung out at the local bowling alley where he
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worked I didn't know much about him at all except he was her friend Arlene says just before Christmas in 2005 Lori asked
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if Rick could join them she asked me she said mom he has no family can I invite him she kind of you know felt bad that
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he was going to spend Christmas alone he was friendly um very polite Lindsay says Lori often spent
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time with Rick so she wasn't surprised that he had been at Lor's home the day she disappeared they were friends so I I
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wasn't concerned but now you're at home yes waiting for Lori to come on and you went to bed that night thinking you know
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I hope she's okay but the next morning Lindsay started to worry I called her house several times left voicemails on
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her home answering machine hey Lori checking on you are you okay where are you you went to work on that Monday
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right yeah uh she wasn't there in my mind something's wrong I had Rick's number so I did text him and ask have
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you seen Lori where is she I'm worried about her um his conversation back was no I haven't and I'm worried now too
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when Lori didn't show up at work a second day that's when Lindsay headed to Lorie's home no one answered and found
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her dog peanut in his crate I'm an animal lover so the very first thing I did was let the dog out that's when she
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noticed something else strange Lori was missing 3 days but the crate was spotless and peanut seemed happy and
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appeared to be well fed as though someone had taken care of him and there was more one thing I remember about
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peanut is he wouldn't walk on tile so she had these rugs in her uh kitchen and he would hop on the rugs and the rugs
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were gone I noticed that immediately her outside trash can was missing she had one that she had like yard Tools in and
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the answer machine had actually been unplugged so those messages were not there by this time Lor's mother heard
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that she hadn't been showing up at work I have got to go to Auburn and see what's going on where she is cuz I
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called her and she didn't answer her phone she headed off on an agonizing Drive calling her husband an alert the
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police finally arriving at her daughter's home and when the police got there what was their attitude well you
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know they were like she's got to be missing 48 hours and they didn't really think a big make a big deal out of it
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they wanted to just think she ran away Lor's parents could only wait for Lori to walk through the door or
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call and finally the phone rang late that afternoon but Arlene says it wasn't Lori it was her friend friend Rick Andis
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he said that Lori had gone to make a big drug deal what yes and I was like there
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ain't no way that my daughter would not do anything like that did you tell the police what he told you I didn't Rick
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told them and the police came to the trailer banging on the door and they raided the mobile home and they found
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nothing then just before Dawn that's when Loris linsky's missing car suddenly exploded
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into a fireball on a desolate dead end outside a construction site the feelings were just unbelievable of fear and
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knowing something really bad has happened who would set her car on fire exactly and
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why the investigation shifted from a missing person to a possible homicide investigators dug into Rick's tip about
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Lori dealing drugs but found no evidence none that he was telling the truth now investigators started digging deeper
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into Rick Andis they wanted to know if he was hiding something from them did you have any sense as to why Rick Andis
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didn't have a family no I had no idea why at all eventually you learned I did it's beyond shocking
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[Music] this is my daughter Lorie's trailer and do you go into that trailer from time to time just to connect with
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her um I do just go in there and think about the happier times this room besides the memories is also a
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solemn place cuz you believe some Horrors went on in this room correct yes in the early days of the
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investigation back in 2006 Arlene says she became suspicious of Rick Anis when he told her that the night Lori
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disappeared she had gone out to make a drug deal and why would he be doing that do you think I think to take the heat
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off of him I was thinking this guy is lying through his teeth police suspected the same but without direct evidence
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linking Rick Andis to Lor's disappearance police could not make an arrest and the case quickly went
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cold did Rick Andis stick around town he was there for a couple of days but within a week after his third interview
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he left town he never came back to Auburn again in 16 10 years after Lori disappeared Mark Whitaker a special
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agent with the Alabama State Bureau of Investigation started a Cold Case unit he chose The Disappearance of Lorie
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slazinski as his first case any estimate how many murder cases you've been involved with in your career probably
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about a 100 where does this one rank in terms of Fascination for you as an investigator this number one it was a
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very difficult case cuz there was no body we don't know exactly what happened and uh we don't know where she
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is but it didn't take long for Rick Andis to become Whitaker's Prime Suspect we couldn't eliminate him his
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inconsistencies and his statements made no sense whatsoever we knew Lori was not
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a drug dealer I mean she vanished off the face of the earth when he's the last one to ever see
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her and when police spoke to Rick hours after Lori was reported missing they noticed these scratches on his hands and
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arms right here that is a thumb print where somebody's digging in she's fighting for her life and doing
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everything she can to get away from it in Rick's car there were handcuffs this knife and cleaning
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supplies and they soon learned something startling about Rick's past turned into
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one of the most bizarre cases I've ever been associated with former Alabama State TR Trooper John Clark I was
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patrolling this County when I got a call it was March 5th 1993 the call from dispatch said a car
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had gone off this very Highway and struck a fence and as my uh headlights take in the curve I see it looks like a
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young boy with a backpack it's a 12-year-old Rick Anis and he admits he had been driving the
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car Clark searches his backpack the first thing I pull out is is a kitchen knife about that long there's some 12
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gauge and some 22 caliber loose ammunition in the bottom of the bag he's sitting back there in that seat behind
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you and I said where are your parents he looks right back at me and he says I killed them both I killed them both I
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killed them both no tears no emotion nothing Clark then radioed for local police to get over to en's home state
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troopers working a involv in a 12y old at the time a show called MPD the television series was following the
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officers the boys telling them that they killed his daddy and Mom cameras entered
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the home of Rick's mother and stepfather Police Department on the floor of a bedroom are
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two dead bodies there's pieces of a baseball bat in the bedroom that has quite a bit of blood on it Rick's own
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mother Dolly flowers was shot in the face and then beaten to death with this baseball bat Rick told investigators he
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covered her face with a velvet blanket and placed a rose on her chest on the walll Bladers on the door Rick's
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stepfather Eddie Joe flowers was known as Elvis for his sideburns and colorful personality Rick shot him in the face
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using this shotgun Rick told cops he was mad that his parents planned to move he said he
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didn't want to leave his school for 2 days investigators believe he lived with their bodies while continuing to go to
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school investigators say they found what they describe as an's to-do list that included killing his three stepsisters
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so he wanted to kill all three of you oh yeah I feel very blessed to be here and
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not to be one of his victims Donna fur Angela flowers and Tina ston are all Eddie's daughters Tina was 20 when her
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dad was murdered it's changed everything my dad was my world I'm never getting to see him again
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the sisters say dolly was a sweet outgoing woman who met their father in church Rick was the polar opposite every
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time I would go and visit my dad and Dolly they he would go into his bedroom and close himself off he'd come out and
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eat and then he'd go back back in his room what is the longest conversation you ever had with him 5 seconds maybe he
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didn't talk to nobody what did your father think of Rick he just said he's just a little different than than y'all
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were when y'all were coming up he just thought that they were in a new relationship and you know that it would
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he would outgrow it and things would get better over time but just 10 months after they married the happy couple were
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dead he was 12 years old and had murdered two people brutally murdered them at age 12 Rick Andis
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couldn't be tried as an adult he spent 9 years in juvenile detention in Alabama and was released after he turned
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21 it was now up to agent Whitaker and his team to determine whether Rick Enis had murdered
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again should juveniles convicted of murder get a second chance chat now with the for 8 hours te on Facebook and
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[Music] Twitter Agent Mark Whitaker knew what Rick Enis did to his parents and his instincts told him Andis
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had done something horrible to Lori 2 but now he had to prove it the burn site that's found on the
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14th the car was right here facing out back toward the bowling alley there's nothing else around here at the time
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there's not Apartments it's just a paved Road The Blaze destroyed whatever evidence there was in the car but an
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investigator reported finding a tiny item on the ground nearby and he found a handrolled cigarette butt about right
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here and he collected that it was not tested kind of got lost in the shuffle the case agent retired Whitaker's team
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now submitted it for testing and there was this gas can that had been found nearby it was right in this area right
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here it looked like one that had been missing from the bowling alley where Rick had worked and it's right here
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1,000 yards from the bowling alley 30 yards from her car Whitaker's partner JW Barnes showed us something that for
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police tied everything together these railroad tracks these are the same tracks that go right by the bowling
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alley they run right across the street from where L's car was found burning I've always thought that's what inis
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used for transportation was walking down the railroad tracks cuz it's a straight
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shot you're not going to be seen unless you want to be seen and those railroad tracks run by Lor's house and in that
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house were signs of a violent struggle says Whitaker these areas you see right here that have been cut out that's where
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the scuff marks were they were black just like the bottom of her shoes and and it was even some up as high here so
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it's obviously those was are struggling here with somebody kicking their legs probably up in the air remember Lorie's
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dog peanut seemed happy and taken care of my theory is that Rick Enis stayed in the house after he had murdered L I
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believe so it's the only way to explain it we don't have a cause of death but I've always thought that he strangled
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her the scratches that he had all over his arm were just indicative of Defense wounds when your fighting somebody
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Whitaker says the phone in the corner of the bedroom was missing its cord it was
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a long cord and it ran all the way through the room and what do you think that cord was used for I think it was
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used to bound her to tie her up yes sir could it have been used to strangle her sure that phone C was missing that's not
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the only thing that was missing there were those three rugs in the kitchen they were kind of strategically put out
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so that peanut Lor's dog and hop B know and be back on carpet the rugs turned up
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he says a few years later and has had a former roommate who reached out to law enforcement and told them hey there's
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this guy left behind three rugs Peter I want to show you something else Lori had a table set up about right
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here and on this table days before Lori went missing a love letter was left here
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for her from Rick people who knew Lori said Andis wanted to be more than just a friend friend police say Andis told a
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buddy that Lori rejected him and he was devastated by that so do you believe this rejection may have been a motive
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for murder I think that's what sent him over the edge I I absolutely do despite the mounting evidence agent
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Whitaker still needed something more that tied Enis directly to the crime scene as far as I'm concerned he is
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investigating this case like glorious own daughter I mean he has a picture of Lori
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in his house I've had her in my closet it made me think about her every day when I was getting ready for work when I
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would put my Ties on I would just remember what I was supposed to be doing every single
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day and then it's like 1:00 in the morning and JW calls me JW Barnes found exactly what they needed in the Case
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Files collecting dust for 10 years he goes I just found a report that was in an envelope that hadn't been opened
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Whitaker could hardly believe it when Lori disappeared in 2006 police collected evidence from her trailer but
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by the time the results came in no one followed up the report contained critical evidence Rick's DNA was
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identified in semen found on Lor's bed sheet and in Blood on the interior of the front door and it turned out his
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blood was also found on one of the rugs investig tigators say we're in Lor's kitchen you got his blood on a rug here
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you got his seing back there you got his blood on a door most people's blood is not inside somebody else's home unless
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something really bad had happened 12 years after Lori disappeared there was now enough evidence to charge
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Rick Andis with her murder but by this time Rick Andis was happily engaged to school librarian
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Elena Atkinson and living 500 M away in Virginia he was designing and building portable living structures called Yurts
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for Sharon Morley's company Morley liked Andis from the moment they met he was just so open and friendly and had a
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great sense of humor but on August 6 2018 Rick's birthday Morley saw a task force of lman arve walking out of the
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woods they were hiding behind trees they had the place surrounded it was a highlight of my
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career to make the phone call to Arlene and Casey slinsky that morning to tell them that we just took Rick inis custody
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for Lor's murder was this kind of a Bittersweet moment for you most definitely yes I
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guess psychologically I never accepted the fact that she really was gone and I I cried big time
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yeah later that month Andis appeared before an Alabama judge with Lor's parents facing
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him I guess he kind of seemed surprised that we were there what did you want him
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to know that we finally got you you're not going to get away with us news of an's arrest quickly spread I
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read it and I'm like thinking to myself it's Rick boo says he was friends with Rick and suddenly remembered a
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conversation he had with him years earlier at a bar when he asked him why he left Alabama what did he say he just
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mainly said I had to get rid of a and I'm thinking H this guy's just messing around with me but that changed
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when he learned of Rick's arrest and it was real he wasn't joking I couldn't sleep the whole night he called
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Whitaker's task force and it was just unbelievable what inoc told him but the most explosive news of all came later
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and Incredibly while Whitaker was with Anis at another court hearing an investigator from Au PD comes up to me
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and tells me you're not going to believe this that handrolled cigarette butt next
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to the car has his DNA on it I wanted to do a somersault in the courtroom but I couldn't everyone now was prepared to go
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to trial but the courts quickly ground to a halt because of the pandemic and Arlene slazinski suffered more losses
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first her son to cancer and then her husband Casey to co got to call him I think you better come when I got there
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he was gone you lose your daughter you lose your son and then you lose your husband
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how do you go on with all this I guess my faith my friends family and I just did not want to die
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not knowing what happened to my daughter or seeing Justice being done but Rick Enis was determined to
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prove police had it all wrong and he wasn't the only one fighting to prove his innocence they
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have the wrong person there's there's no way his fiance Elena Atkinson do you believe Rick had anything to do with
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Lor's disappearance with her death no I do not you not only do I believe Rick is
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innocent I believe that he would have given his life for Lori if he had been there that's the kind of person he is
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and she believes that despite the fact that she knows Rick murdered his mother and stepfather when he was 12 people
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would wonder why is it hard for you to believe that he could kill again she says Rick told her something
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about what happened with his mother mother something that convinced her he had nothing to do with what happened to
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[Music] Lori Rick Enis is one of the most compassionate generous kind people that I've ever
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known Elena Atkinson has been in love with Rick Andis for 4 years I love his intelligence I always
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joke with him and tell him I fell in love with his brain first but just two months into their
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romance Elena an amateur genealogist was researching Rick's ancestry when she stumbled upon news that he had killed
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his mother and stepfather my first thought was what in world happened in his home life that
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pushed him to that point Rick would tell her something she didn't see in any article Rick it's Peter vanent with 48
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Hours reached by phone Rick told us what he insists happened I was molested by my mother
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Rick says his mother sexually abused him and he snapped I exploded and the result was
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that I I took my mother's life and then have took my st's but remember back then
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he told authorities he killed his parents because he didn't want to move I was deeply ashamed about my mother
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molesting me and I had a really hard time talking about it still we could find no evidence to corroborate Rick's
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abuse allegation you know I Rick I have to tell you obviously I I have no idea what happened uh a skeptic would say
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you've conveniently accused the mother that you murdered of molesting you and she can't defend herself you understand
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how that's difficult for some to believe well I mean it it's something that I work through with a a
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psychiatrist what I did when I was 12 is the greatest regret of my life Rick insists he's no longer that angry
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12-year-old now 41 Rick Enis would stand trial for yet another murder I never murdered
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lorinsky she was a very close dear friend of mine I never would have hurt her prosecutor Jessica venieri is sure
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that is a lie but at trial she wouldn't be allowed to tell the jury anything about Rick's
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past this is by far the most complicated case of my career he becomes a venti's first hurdle was convincing the jury
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that Lori was in fact dead she called Lor's mother arleene to the stand did she make contact with you after her
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brother died noen have you ever received a birthday card no a Mother's Day card have you ever heard from your
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daughter in any way since that Thursday before she disappeared no Lindsay braa was next seemingly
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setting up a motive telling the jury that Lori rejected Rick she told me about a letter that he had written her
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was it a love letter yes she told me that she wasn't interested him in him that way and Terry Boo would take the
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stand to recount that troubling remark he said Rick made he had to tr that she was a white piece of trail
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park trash the district attorney built her case with t testimony about the scuff
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marks on the wall and the blood in Lorie's trailer Rick Seaman on her bed and the cigarette butt with Rick's DNA
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found near Lor's scorched car they've got problems with this evidence but defense attorney William
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Watley claimed that handrolled cigarette was planted arguing police could have taken it from Rick's home had cigarette
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button didn't come from B the defense suggested Lori was responsible for her own disappearance they portrayed her as
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a drug dealer you knew that Lori had grown marw yes Lindsay insisted however that it was only for Lor's personal use
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for herself or so she didn't have to purchase any but to drive home their points Watley called Rick Anis himself
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to the STA spent a lot of time with her Rick insisted he had no reason to hurt Lori did you you write a letter to
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Lori um yes sir I did I I asked her if she wanted to date it would have been a month or two before she went missing I'm
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not certain but even though she turned him down Rick says they were still intimate now did you ever have sex with
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Lori um yes sir so what about what he said to Terry Booth Andis says it never happened did you never got drinking with
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Terry Boo yes sir did you tell Terry Boo that you strangled someone yes sir Rick I will show you some
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photographs here and those rugs given to police by his former roommate Rick claims they were not from Lorie's
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trailer where did you get these from Target you get any of those more that's sir Rick says Lori was fine when he left
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her that Saturday he says he headed off to sell some weed and he claims she was off to do the same the last time you saw
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Lori did you have any kind of an argument with her no sir did you break into Lor's trailer that
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Saturday I did not did you kidnap Lori no sir did you kill Lori I I did not did you burn Lor's car yes sir so what about
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the knife handcuffs and cleaning items in his car Rick says it had nothing to do with Lori
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he was moving things from his apartment and those scratches on him back in 2006 police say he had no explanation but at
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the trial he had an answer I I got them from playing with my dog venieri barely made it to the podium to start her
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cross-examination is there anything else you'd like to blame on ven tiary questioned Rick about that blood on
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Lor's door blood of Lor's trailer has your DNA in it how did that get there I have no
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idea and the question vinary really wanted an answer for she never got where did
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you I didn't tell B's body anywhere who did I have no idea both sides had their final chance
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to persuade the jury defense attorney Watley told the jurors there wasn't any evidence that a crime had even been
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committed there's no evidence that Lori was kidnapped there's no evidence that she
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was forly taken against her will venieri attacked Rick's defense and this is you was upstairs
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vener insisted that the volume of evidence against Rick Anis was overwhelming even if police still
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couldn't find Lorie's [Music] remains and she reminded the jury that Lori would never just take off she would
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never ever ever laid peanut F Never After 7 Days of testimony it was now up to the jury to decide I'm
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terrified I only get one shot at this but you just never know what a jury is going to
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do do you believe Rick Enis is a changed man see more of the investigation into Lor's disappearance at 48 hours.com
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[Music] all right and L gentlemen jury g b to this case hand that to the B please
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ma'am when the jury came back into the courtroom did you look at their faces yes I did it was very hard to read their
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faces I still wasn't sure what the verdict was going to be please stand nearly 16 years after Lorie slazinski
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vanished the jury reached a verdict during their second day of deliberations we the jury find the
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offended darl Richard Enis guilty of offenseive C murder guilty of the murder of Lorie
00:36:41
slazinski give me a sense of what that meant to you sheer relief joy that he was finally
00:36:50
convicted and would never get to do this to anyone else again I'm thrilled that we were able to
00:36:57
to bring Justice for Lori after such a long time immediately following the jury's verdict da vener went to our lean
00:37:06
with a proposal Rick was now facing a possible death sentence but that would trigger years of appeals and legal
00:37:13
wrangling to spare arleene all that veneri suggested offering Rick life without parole Arlene agreed it's s the
00:37:23
court that you be prisoned the penitentiary of the state of Alabama for a term of why without the possibility of
00:37:30
coron Elena Atkinson was stunned just complete shock disbelief I was devastated she was so certain Rick would
00:37:44
be exonerated she'd made plans to celebrate a celebration Rick told us that he would be part of I thought that
00:37:52
we were going to go and have a nice dinner and that I was going to get to start my life over
00:37:59
[Music] arleene headed home to savor the Bittersweet Victory after this verdict did you have a conversation with Lori I
00:38:19
did I just said Lor justice has finally come we've waited for this for a long time and I hope you're all celebrating
00:38:27
and with the entire family and I wish you were all here to see this day this tragic murder the Ripple
00:38:41
effects across your family it's just incredible it has left a very large void in my life I was getting ready to retire
00:38:52
I mean I could have been enjoying my grandchildren possibly um just spending time with my daughter who I
00:39:02
loved this is lorri at her trailer and peanut who she absolutely adored and vice
00:39:11
versa we brought peanut home with us and he stayed with us till he was I guess about 16 years old and he died every
00:39:21
time we mentioned Lor's name he it would I don't care where he was in the house it was like he just heard her name and
00:39:27
he run in there and like where is she it just totally amazed me that he he never forgot her
00:39:38
never did you ever think that 6 years ago we would be here today with her husband and both her children gone this
00:39:47
tragic story has brought new friendships into Arlene's life Mark Whitaker is my hero him and his wife are like family to
00:39:55
me now this was on her graduation day Casey her and me that's a great photo and this was her a month before she
00:40:04
disappeared at her cousin Jennifer's wedding with her cousin Thomas wow not a care in the world no she's one of the
00:40:12
bravest women that I've I've ever met you showing all these to me just makes everything more real for
00:40:19
me beautiful girl thanks for sharing those with me you're welcome I could tell she seems to be happier now
00:40:28
I can't thank you enough for it it was just wonder I love you too you're one tough
00:40:35
[Music] [Music] lady a wife and mother was said to have gone for a bike ride and never returned
00:40:52
the initial thought is kidnapped she had used a spy pen to make SI recordings it's like James Bond would they help
00:41:00
solve the case Nothing Is What It Seems 48 hours Saturday on CBS [Music] when you hear the name Gabby petito what
00:41:37
comes to mind a young aspiring blogger who love life love Adventures how a girl who was on
00:41:47
the cusp of beginning life and whose life was tragically taken from her the FBI announcing a medical
00:41:56
examiner said says the body found in Wyoming was indeed that of Gabby petito the coroner calling her death a
00:42:03
homicide Brian lre I believe made his decision to kill himself after he killed Gabby
00:42:10
Patito investigators say human remains found in Florida this week are those of Brian laundry the only person of
00:42:17
interest in the death of his fiance Gabby petito Gabby Patito has been gone for over a year now is this case over
00:42:28
no this case is far from over my name is Mary F Jan and I'm a former Federal prosecutor and defense
00:42:36
attorney there are still a lot of questions for Gabby's parents the primary one being would Gabby petito
00:42:43
still be alive today if the case have been handled differently hello hello and good
00:42:50
morning we came to know Gabby petito and Brian laundry because they were putting
00:42:55
themselves out there in social media documenting their travels throughout America this young couple in love living
00:43:03
out of their van seeing what the world had to offer live in the dream my name is Dr Chris Mandi and I'm
00:43:11
a forensic psychologist but what we come to learn is that that was a veneer all the
00:43:18
chocolate mountain I know it's a river of chocolate much as I know Gabby and feel like I know Brian you just never
00:43:28
know when it comes to relationships we've been lucky so far at all the places we've stayed but I'd say this is
00:43:35
one of the best so far anyone that's met the two of them has been like they seem
00:43:39
like such a nice couple but a lot of couples look nice on Instagram about a month into their trip
00:43:46
Gabby and Brian have a lot of arguments it gets physical a witness reports it to the
00:43:55
Moab police hey how are you I'm good I'm with Moab police they respond and now we
00:44:03
see that there's trouble in Paradise he walked me out of the car and told me to go take a breather but I didn't want to
00:44:09
take a breather I'm fine I look at I hope she doesn't have too many complaints about me I'm just uh know I
00:44:17
feel bad after get so public when you look back could that Moab police stop than a game changer oh
00:44:29
absolutely it's hard not to wonder what would have happened uh to Gabby if either Gabby or Brian had been arrested
00:44:37
that day two people went on a trip one person returned and that person that returned isn't providing us any
00:44:45
information where we believe the circumstantial evidence demonstrates that the laundry
00:44:51
family was aware that their son had murdered Gabby and that they were aware of the location of her mans they refused
00:44:58
to communicate to petito family as human beings How could somebody not pick up that phone and say I'm so sorry we don't
00:45:07
know what happened what can we do to help and the only reason why you wouldn't is if obviously something went
00:45:12
a foul Gabby is the most amazing person I've ever met I've never felt a pain like
00:45:22
this I have screamed into the air what happened because I want answers we will get Justice for her no
00:45:33
matter what [Music] [Music] Gabby potito's road trip in the summer of 2021 started as an adventure story I
00:46:36
love the B months later it turned into a nationwide search for a missing woman the search for missing 22-year-old Gabby
00:46:44
Patito is now a multi-state effort before ending here earlier today human remains were discovered with a discovery
00:46:53
of her remains and Grand Teton National Park it has now become a cautionary tale
00:47:01
ultimately her death will hopefully lead to many women being rescued and saved from these situations well before it
00:47:10
gets to murder former prosecutor and CBS consultant Mary fan says Gabby's story is really about recognizing the warning
00:47:20
signs of domestic violence which are often hard to read there are people who believe that Gabby petito story didn't
00:47:27
have to end the way it did if only the warning signs had been picked up on would it have been
00:47:34
[Music] different to most eyes Gabby petito and her fiance Brian laundry were compatible
00:47:44
in every way Gabby poo never goes outside coolest Shick you ever met Man by far she she's going to make you
00:47:56
she's going to make you smile Gabby's dad Joseph coolest Shick you ever met simple as that 22 years old a New York
00:48:06
girl from Long Island an appetite for adventure she knew she wanted to take this trip her mom Nicole Schmidt she had
00:48:16
told me about it um probably a year before it started Brian stretching doing some morning
00:48:25
yoga Brian's very charismatic he always comes off as such a sweet person and just kind of like I'm here one of
00:48:34
Gabby's close friends Rose Davis they met soon after Gabby moved to Florida she texted me one of the sweetest
00:48:41
messages I think I've ever got from someone and it was just like you seem so cool I really want to be your friend and
00:48:49
I was just absolutely they made Tik Tok videos together for fun Rose says Gabby was good friends with
00:48:59
Brian back in high school in New York then after Brian moved to Florida Gabby moved there too to be closer to him I
00:49:08
always told her her life is kind of like a movie cuz I was just like this happens in
00:49:13
movies soon they were in love and living together she'd let me know what they did
00:49:20
and you know he he'd make her breakfast and it was always such a cute little thing and they did cute little dinners
00:49:26
in July of 2020 they got engaged they even got tattoos together but Rose says Brian could sometimes exhibit what she
00:49:35
calls toxic traits we spoke to Rose when Gabby was first reported missing when Brian wants something he's going to get
00:49:43
it and I don't mean in a physical way he's going to force it he's just going to I don't want people to say I'm
00:49:50
calling him a full manipulator but he'll manipulate the situation to get what he
00:49:55
wants out of it and you know he didn't want her to go out one night with me and he stole her ID because you can't
00:50:03
get into the bar without your ID and you know this was really upsetting to her you know you're you're engaged it's not
00:50:11
you know it's not supposed to be like that but the couple seemed to put any drama behind them as they got ready for
00:50:19
their Adventure Gabby worked hard at Taco Bell and with Brian at public supermarket saving money for their trip
00:50:28
they bought the van they converted it the goal was to spend four or five months crisscrossing the country having
00:50:35
Adventures even working on organic farms and chronicling it all in real time on social media she was just like I want to
00:50:45
document this this is so cool to be doing and she just kind of yeah kind of like a vlogger just let everyone know
00:50:51
what she was up to she was excited starting her van life digital Journey where she's creating this
00:50:59
whole you know following of van liers and that's what she was really into at the moment they rolled out officially on
00:51:07
July 2nd Gabby posted constantly hello hello and good morning every little detail you can't keep chocolate in
00:51:18
Utah not in July but all those selfies may have been hiding a darker story there everything
00:51:28
behind the scenes you don't know 6 weeks into their trip on the afternoon of August 12th in Utah near
00:51:38
the Arches National Park Gabby and Brian's Instagram road trip came to a shuddering stop driver is showing some
00:51:47
obscure driving possibly intoxicated it was around 4:45 in the afternoon according to this police officer's body
00:51:55
cam currently doing 45 M an hour Zone through here is 25 oh subjects just hit the
00:52:06
curb correction speed limit is 15 what your guys' names Gabby Brian Gabby Brian okay it was the stop that
00:52:23
could have changed everything [Music] [Music] Grand County Sheriff's Office this 911
00:52:53
call was made on August 12th 2021 in Moab Utah four weeks before Gabby Patito was reported missing we're driving by
00:53:02
and I'd like to report a domestic dispute the caller reports seeing what appeared to be an alarming confrontation
00:53:08
between Gabby and Brian Florida license plate white land what were they doing uh
00:53:14
we drove by and the gentleman was slapping the girl who was slapping her yes and then we stopped they ran up and
00:53:20
down the sidewalk he proceeded to hit her hopped in the car and they drove off officers from the Moab Police Department
00:53:28
are dispatched and within minutes Gabby and Brian's white van is spotted driving
00:53:33
erratically outside the Arches National Park they're pulled over the officers separate the couple and begin
00:53:42
questioning them over here Gabby is visibly shaken you want to tell yeah I don't know it's just some
00:53:54
days I really bad OCD and I just I was just cleaning and straightening up back before and I was apologizing to him and
00:54:03
saying I'm sorry that I'm so mean and I'm trying to start a blog I have a vog stuff so I've been building my website
00:54:12
so I've just been really stressed and he doesn't really believe that I could do any of it so that's kind of been like a
00:54:18
I don't know he's like down I don't know we have been fighting all morning and and he wouldn't let me in the car before
00:54:26
let you in the car cuz you're OCD told me I needed to calm down right so tell me what's going
00:54:33
on the see this gets worked up sometimes and I try and really distance myself from her so like I I locked a car and I
00:54:39
walked away from her Brian tells police that Gabby attacked him scratching his face and his arm as she tried to get
00:54:47
back into the van had her phone trying to get P got away I was just trying to I know I shouldn't push it I just trying
00:54:54
to push your way to go let's let's just take a minute step back and breathe and she she got people that came to us and
00:55:01
told us that they saw him hit you another officer asked Gabby for more details about what happened well to be
00:55:08
honest I definitely hit him first where' you hit him I slapped you slapped him first and then
00:55:15
on his face he to shut up how many times did you slap him Romeo India a couple and then what and his
00:55:22
reaction was to do what so I happen he just grabbed you yeah did he did he hit you though I mean I mean
00:55:32
it's okay if you're saying you hit him and then I understand if he hit you but we want to know the truth if he actually
00:55:36
hit you you I guess yeah but I hit him first where did he hit you don't don't worry just be honest gra my face like I
00:55:46
guess uhhuh um he didn't hit me in the face like like punch me in the face or anything did he slap your face or what
00:55:54
well like he like grabbed me like with his nail and I guess that's why it looks I then have a cut right here like a PE
00:56:01
touch it burs the officers never directly asked Brian if he slapped or hit Gabby they
00:56:08
also didn't talk to the 911 caller who reported seeing Brian hit Gabby but one of the officers did speak with a second
00:56:17
eyewitness that day witness says I never saw him hit her I saw him shove her but
00:56:22
I couldn't tell if it was an aggression against her or a defense against her so at this point from what unless the
00:56:28
guy's screaming that he he go to jail and did something to this girl it sounds to me like she is the primary aggressive
00:56:35
now in Utah if officers find evidence of a domestic violence assault they are required to make an arrest or issue a
00:56:44
citation an independent investigation would later conclude that the officers did not have a clear understanding of
00:56:51
the law got me this is a very very important question how you answer this question is going to
00:56:58
determine what happens next but the only person who can answer this question is you they mistakenly believed that Gabby
00:57:06
had to intend to harm Brian to require an arrest when you slapped him those times were you attempting to cause him
00:57:18
physical pain or physical impairment was that what you were attempting to do to him no what were you what were you
00:57:24
attempting to do what was the reason behind the slapping and stuff what was what was you were
00:57:31
attempting to accomplish by slapping I was trying to get to stop well doesn't sound to me like she
00:57:38
attempted in ultimately officers on the scene decided to separate the couple for
00:57:44
the night I'm going to give you the keys to the van Gabby was told to stay with the van I'm giving him a ride over to
00:57:50
the hotel okay as the assumed victim Brian was sent to a hotel I really appreciate thank you so much for
00:57:57
everything no problem it's nice to meet you right nice to meet you no one was arrested or issued a
00:58:04
citation forensic psychologist Chris Mandi has worked closely with law enforcement on issues of domestic
00:58:12
violence the officers that responded to Gabby and Brian were compassionate their
00:58:19
hearts were in the right place of wanting to help they were trying to do what they mistakenly believed was the
00:58:28
right thing by cutting them a break weeks later when the body cam footage was released there was a public uproar
00:58:36
newly released video shows what looks like the aftermath of an argument between Gabby Patito and Brian lry for
00:58:41
her friend Rose those images were almost impossible to watch it takes a lot for her to get that hysterical I perfectly
00:58:50
Cal I'm calm all the time and he really stresses me out and so when I saw the body body cam I knew it was more than
00:58:58
just a little argument she's not going to slap him for no reason the release of the 911 call Drew
00:59:06
outrage who was slapping her followers of the story on social media erupted in Anger my blood is boiling at how they
00:59:16
failed this poor girl all I know is this didn't have to end like this police missed an
00:59:23
opportunity Mandi says the officers seem to miss signs of domestic abuse just crazy and
00:59:33
Gabby accepting the blame and I was apologizing to him and saying I'm sorry that I'm so mean because in a
00:59:40
domestically violent relationship it's not uncommon for one party to take the blame for what really is the behavior of
00:59:49
the other party the independent investigator later wrote that it's very likely that Gabby was a long long-term
00:59:56
victim of domestic violence the ramifications of the officer's actions during that stop would
01:00:04
play out in the days ahead and months later would be questioned by Gabby's parents and their
01:00:13
[Music] lawyers just days after that traffic stop Gabby and Brian were back on the
01:00:20
road headed north to Salt Lake City it rained all afternoon yesterday on August 19th Gabby posted an edited 8-minute
01:00:30
video showing their journey together it is really nice and sunny today the video
01:00:38
showed no signs of any tension between Gabby and Brian later Gabby told her mom they were
01:00:47
leaving Utah and driving to Grand Teton National Park in Wyoming she was happy she was excited to keep going on her
01:00:56
journey and um that was the last time I spoke to her verbally on August 25th Gabby posted a
01:01:09
series of photos on Instagram and front of a butterfly mural in Ogden Utah it would be her final post on
01:01:19
Instagram [Music] [Music] Gabby never goes outside the Instagram post on August 25th 2021 was the last
01:01:41
time Gabby Patito would publish on social media and shortly after she said she and Brian were headed to Grand ton
01:01:49
National Park Gabby's parents stopped hearing from her she seemed to have been in communication with her parents on a
01:01:56
regular basis throughout the totality of this trip and they were checking in on her
01:02:03
regularly then on August 27th 2021 her mother says she received a strange text message from Gabby's phone
01:02:12
it read can you help Stan I just keep getting his voicemails and missed calls Stan is Gabby's grandfather the
01:02:21
mother thought it was odd because she never refers to her grandfather as Stan it was out of character and
01:02:27
disconcerting but as far as the petito family knew Gabby and Brian were still together on their
01:02:34
trip hi my name is Miranda Baker and on August 29th my boyfriend and I picked up
01:02:40
Brian at Grand Tian national park at 5:30 at night at cter Bay 48 hours after Gabby's mother
01:02:52
received that cryptic text Miranda Baker says she and her boyfriend picked up a man she believes was Brian laundry she
01:03:00
says he was alone he approached us asking us for a ride cuz he needed to go to Jackson before he came in the car he
01:03:08
offered to pay us like $200 to give him a ride like 10 miles so that was kind of
01:03:15
weird he then told us he's been camping for multiple days without his fiance and
01:03:20
that she was working on their social media page back at their van suddenly says Miranda things took a
01:03:28
turn when there was confusion over where they were going he freaked out he's like
01:03:33
nope I need to get out right now like pullover we dropped him off at 6:09 p.m. on August
01:03:41
29th meanwhile Gabby's mother Nicole did receive one more text from Gabby's phone
01:03:47
it said that there was no service in yosity the last text I received from her phone was August 30th are you you
01:03:55
confident that was from her or you're not sure I can't comment on [Music] that during Gabby's travels she had been
01:04:05
staying in touch with her friend Rose Davis Rose was expecting to hear from Gabby on her birthday so we talked and
01:04:13
my birthday is August 29th so we decided call me then but no birthday call or text came I honestly didn't think
01:04:23
anything of it when she didn't text me or anything cuz she's traveling cross country and you know once it got uh it
01:04:32
got later into it around like 8th and 9th of September that was the point where I was like she would have called
01:04:40
me why haven't I heard from her yet what Rose did not know was that on September 1st Brian laundry was back in
01:04:51
Northport Florida he had driven the van there and he was alone the petito family
01:04:57
knew none of this but they had already become alarmed when they stopped hearing from Gabby Al together and her cell
01:05:05
phone had stopped working did you ever reach out to her boyfriend to figure out what happened
01:05:14
and where where your daughter is we can't comment we're not commenting on that but Gabby's mother did reach out to
01:05:22
police it was actually Friday the 10th that I decided to call police because I had had 10 days 10 almost 11 days was
01:05:31
enough for me to not hear from my child and um I got the runaround nobody wanted
01:05:37
to report her missing um she's an adult she's traveling as a mother I said it's not like her finally that Saturday I um
01:05:46
went personally to suffet County fifth Precinct and now this is where we are Gabby petito was officially declared
01:05:57
a missing person on September 11th just over 2 weeks after her last Instagram post as the nation remembered so many
01:06:06
lives lost 20 years earlier the petito family focused on One Life that of their missing
01:06:13
daughter we're looking for her and only her not the van not the two of them just
01:06:21
just her keep your eyes out and we'll find her a woman disappears on a cross country trip with her boyfriend in a van
01:06:30
on Monday September 13th 20121 the story of Gabby potito's disappearance hit the news the parents
01:06:39
of a missing woman from Long Island need help finding her Gabby's mom and stepdad
01:06:44
Nicole and Jim Schmidt held up her photo for reporters uh Gabby's 22 years old um
01:06:53
she's an absolutely beautiful Beautiful Soul Inside and Out rose Davis was devastated to see her friend's picture
01:07:01
on TV my mom called me into her room and uh Gabby's face was all over the news and uh I kind of just went into
01:07:13
shock what happened to Gabby Patito once it became clear that Gabby Patito had gone missing her mom and stepdad her
01:07:34
father Joe Patito and stepmom Tara set up a fine Gabby page where people could post tips and information she was
01:07:42
reportedly last seen near Grand Teton National Park in Wyoming around August 27th
01:07:50
20121 we're home safe and sound I immediately immediately made like a collage of all
01:07:58
of our photos and for a Tik Tok and posted the information Facebook Instagram everything within Days videos
01:08:07
about Gabby's disappearance exploded across social media even people with no connection to Gabby join the search to
01:08:16
help find her we are going to be going to the Grand tons to see if there's anything that we can do to help in the
01:08:20
search of Gabby petito you know the social media has been amazing um watch it getting everybody to post it repost
01:08:27
it we need for her to come back home and anything you guys can do to help us get
01:08:31
there is just appreciated and we just got to keep doing it for Gabby's parents this Spotlight in
01:08:39
the media and online was invaluable but there was one person who wasn't helping solve the mystery of what
01:08:46
happened to Gabby Brian laundry Northport Florida police spokesman Josh Taylor said investigators
01:08:54
were frust frustrated neither he nor his parents would answer their questions even though Gabby had lived with them we
01:09:03
were essentially handed uh the information for their attorney that is the extent of our conversation with them
01:09:10
first word that popped in my brain was coward to be honest with you you're supposed to love her you're supposed to
01:09:17
marry her where is she police confiscated the white Ford van searched it for evidence and then released Ed
01:09:26
posting that Brian was now a person of interest in Gabby's disappearance laundry family attorney stepen bertolino
01:09:34
spoke briefly to the Press on behalf of the laundry family I will hope that miss
01:09:39
petito is located and that she's reunited with her family Gabby's parents responded through attorney Rick Stafford
01:09:46
with a scathing letter we believe you know the location of where Brian left Gabby we beg you to tell us as a parent
01:09:55
how could you let us go through this pain and not help us 6 days after Gabby was declared missing the laundry family
01:10:04
reported that they didn't know where Brian was they said he'd left for a hike at the Carlton Reserve days
01:10:12
[Music] earlier police immediately began to comb the huge local park looking for
01:10:23
Bryan a massive search more than 50 officers and FBI agents combing a 24,000 acre park near Sarasota Florida looking
01:10:33
for Brian laundry anger at the laundry family silence prompted protesters to gather outside the laundry home
01:10:41
demanding [Applause] answers while authorities were searching for Brian in Florida the search for
01:10:52
Gabby in and around Wyoming intense ified it was like a nationwide Hut too you know between social media and all
01:10:59
the other avenues and people were looking for the van people were looking for where it went when it went they were
01:11:05
looking for Gabby petito and in this case all of that social media attention ultimately helped
01:11:14
investigators locate Gabby when Kyle and Jen bethon came forward with information
01:11:20
they had spotted Gabby and Brian's van the bathoon had been in Wyoming's Grand Teton National Park around the
01:11:28
time Gabby's family last heard from her on August 27th 2021 the bons had their GoPros rolling
01:11:37
for their YouTube channel when they went looking for a campground we're driving down this road past this van and it had
01:11:45
Florida plates however the van was completely dark we assumed that they were just out hiking or doing something
01:11:52
else once the bons left the park they didn't think about the van again until late on Saturday September 18th
01:12:01
when Jen checked her phone and was stunned to learn authorities now believed Gabby had been in the Tetons
01:12:08
the very same night the bons were there Jen instantly remembered the white van and I immediately got Goosebumps all
01:12:17
over my body I rushed back to the computer and I saw that white specka van and I was like please keep keep going
01:12:25
please keep going and it did and it got bigger and bigger we just some reason instantly knew that it was hers when I
01:12:33
called the FBI I was like I have found Gabby's footage like patch me across to somebody like this is huge because I
01:12:40
knew deep down what it was and I knew how important this footage would be to finding Gabby as instructed the btho
01:12:50
uploaded their footage to the FBI website they also posted it on on YouTube and Facebook just hours later came the
01:13:00
devastating announcement earlier today human remains were discovered consistent with the description of Gabrielle Gabby
01:13:10
[Music] Patito the FBI says Gabby's remains were found at the spread Creek Camping Area
01:13:20
inside Bridger Teton National Forest in Wyoming an autopsy confirmed the remains
01:13:26
were Gabby's and the coroner determined her death was a homicide by manual strangulation we have no additional
01:13:34
comments Gabby's family asked for privacy but her father Joe sent out a tweet that summed up the moment it read
01:13:43
simply she touched the world hours after it was announced Gabby had been found over a dozen FBI agents
01:13:57
and police officers swarmed the home of Brian's parents police arrived the FBI arrived they were carrying a battering
01:14:05
ram they also announced that they had a warrant I think seeing these FBI agents and police here you wonder do they now
01:14:12
know where he is the next day Northport police the FBI and other agencies ramped up the search
01:14:21
of the nature preserve near Bran's home trains very difficult essentially 75% of
01:14:29
it's underwater 49 days after Brian had returned home without Gabby on October 20th
01:14:38
2021 the FBI made an announcement earlier today investigators Found What appears to be human remains an autopsy
01:14:47
revealed Brian laundry had died from a self-inflicted gunshot to the head and there was something
01:14:55
else along with personal items such as a backpack and notebook belonging to Brian
01:15:01
lry that notebook contained writings from Brian explaining what he says really happened to Gabby petito writing
01:15:11
I ended her life I thought it was merciful [Music] before Brian laundry put a bullet
01:15:36
through his head he wrote a story describing how Gabby ptito died it was dark they were running across a stream
01:15:44
she must have fell and hurt herself and he went to help her but she seemed to be
01:15:50
in extreme pain in that small notebook found in a dry bag near Brian's remains he
01:16:01
wrote I ended her life I thought it was merciful that it is what she wanted but I see now all the mistakes I
01:16:13
made it was a self-serving narrative that portrayed that there had been an accident and that there had been a mercy
01:16:20
killing by him of her because she was suffering by stretching it speaks to selfishness and a degree of narcissism
01:16:30
that it was important for how other people looked at him his image you know he had the last
01:16:37
word while Gabby's parents will never see Brian laundry face a jury they are seeking their own version of Justice
01:16:45
suing Brian's estate for wrongful death and his parents for intentional infliction of emotional distress
01:16:53
where attorney Patrick Riley it's our belief that the laundry family was aware that Brian had murdered Gabby and was
01:17:01
aware where her body was located Riley says that belief is based on information from the FBI he says the
01:17:10
FBI believes that Gabby was murdered on August 27th 2021 and that Brian made a lengthy phone
01:17:17
call to his parents on the 28th he says according to the FBI Brian's parents then contacted attorney that same day
01:17:27
how damning is that why would they get an attorney so fast very it's very damning it doesn't pass the smell test
01:17:34
the laundry's attorney issued a statement denying the allegations made in the lawsuits and saying this lawsuit
01:17:40
does not change the fact that the laundries had no obligation to speak to law enforcement or any third party
01:17:47
including the Patito family but there's more says Riley a letter allegedly WR written to Brian by
01:17:55
his mother Roberta laundry Riley says he and Gabby's mom read it while reviewing
01:18:01
evidence at the FBI's Tampa office there was one part that sticks out which is if you go to prison I'll
01:18:10
bake a cake with a shiv in it and by the way the envelope that the letter came in
01:18:16
had written on the front of it Burn After Reading if it can be proven when and if
01:18:23
Bryan's mother did indeed write that letter it could be very damaging says Mary fulan cuz it shows the mindset of
01:18:31
the mother that she'll do anything to protect her child in addition to the cases in
01:18:37
Florida Gabby's parents filed a lawsuit against the Moab Police Department how's
01:18:42
it going how you doing relating to how they handled that domestic violence stop with Gabby and bran attorney Brian
01:18:50
Stewart the family believes that Gabby would still be Al today if the police officers had had the proper training and
01:18:58
had followed the law in how they responded to Gabby's situation hey how are you according to Stewart the body cam
01:19:07
footage shows there was a fundamental problem the very best thing I can do is call my supervisor and see if I'm
01:19:14
missing something here it's clear that the officers did not have a clear understanding of the law that they were
01:19:20
supposed to enforce that day try to calm down and I'm going to go call Super the Moab Police Department
01:19:26
commissioned the captain of another Utah police department to conduct that independent review of the officer's
01:19:33
actions that day among the report's conclusions there was probable cause for an arrest by choosing not to apply the
01:19:43
statute and affect an arrest the officers left Gabby and Brian in a dangerous situation the report cited other
01:19:53
unintentional mistakes says Mary F genan they didn't follow up with a key witness
01:19:58
which is the 911 caller they did not follow up with questions to Brian Landry about whether or not he grabbed her face
01:20:05
or grabbed her arm they didn't document Gabby's wounds photographically or in the report Mary fulan believes they also
01:20:13
missed some classic telltale signs of domestic violence when he was a girl who was hysterically crying who has
01:20:20
immediately taken the blame who is also trying to minimize her boyfriend transactions all of this while he
01:20:26
remained calm cool and collected through his an interview so I think if you look
01:20:31
at that in the totality and had all those things been addressed we might have had a different outcome here oh
01:20:37
this could have been a game Cher we don't know for sure we'll never know but certainly intervention would have been
01:20:44
more possible under that scenario one of the officers involved told the independent investigator after
01:20:53
Gabby's death quote I would have done anything to stop it if I would have known that was coming what happened
01:21:00
what's going on in a statement the city of Moab said it believed the officer showed kindness you want to come stand
01:21:06
in the shade respect and empathy in their handling of this incident you in the van s you on your way all right the
01:21:12
city intends to implement the recommendations of the independent review which include more domestic
01:21:18
violence investigation related training and legal training to ensure officers understand Utah state
01:21:27
laws the attorneys for Gabby's parents insist their lawsuits are not about money they're about raising
01:21:35
awareness Gabby's mother Nicole told the Associated Press I get people messaging
01:21:40
me all the time that they were inspired by her to get out of a relationship yeah and I think that in
01:21:47
and of itself is a huge huge victory for a family that has sadly uh encountered such tragedy but there can be these
01:21:58
bright lights that come out of these bad circumstances and if there is one to be
01:22:02
shined here it will be hopefully that there will be young girls out there that say you know what I'm going to walk away
01:22:08
I'm not going to stay or I'm going to get myself the help I need to get the strength to walk
01:22:14
away Gabby Patito doing in death what she did in life always described her as this light you know she'll do everything
01:22:23
to bring the light out in you and if she can't she'll give you some of hers [Music]
01:22:55
a conw woman's uniquely lethal plan for identity theft I've seen people killed with knives and machetes and guns death
01:23:03
by dessert I have never seen anyone try to kill another person with a piece of cheesecake until now until now 48 hours
01:23:10
Saturday on CBS and streaming on Paramount Plus [Music] Ally got along with everyone she was
01:23:32
very bubbly and spirited she always had a smile on her [Music] face Ally what are you doing taking a
01:23:43
picture of her sunsets by Ally follow she wanted to live the college life in in a large University
01:23:55
she really wanted to be involved in a school that had that ranking good football team bald Hing way Stadium
01:24:03
Oxford Mississippi it is the home opener for the home Miss Rebels it's fair to say she loved ol Miss yes Ally loved
01:24:17
miss it was fairly late at night she was going out to the bar and wasn't weird for her to like go
01:24:26
out on her own and meet up with other people at the square where all the bars are she takes an Uber and uh she goes
01:24:34
home [Music] alone Sardis Lake is a big area there's lots of hunting camps and recreational
01:24:49
spaces that people use on the lake the sheriff department here does a really good job of doing their best to patrol
01:24:55
these locations the deputy is on a routine Patrol of that area I don't know what the Moonlight was
01:25:05
like but you're there's nothing around you you're in the pitch black dark it's not like a Lover's Lane or nothing I
01:25:11
mean it's just rule a lot of people don't know about it when you got there what did you find
01:25:17
a white female laid on the ground with multiple gunshot Wings to her back I have not worked a murder where
01:25:26
somebody's been shot that many times when the amulet crew was driving in they noticed the PS in the road ditch
01:25:34
soon as we open the purse ow Miss ID card and a driver's [Music] license hey Morgan This Is mik East as
01:25:45
the county sheriff's department I'm calling in regards to a friend of yours alley hostel I realized I had a Miss
01:25:53
call and it was the police and they were calling about Ally the police came to the door and uh they told us what did
01:26:01
they tell you there had been a homicide and that she was the victim and I still don't believe it here
01:26:12
we [Music] are that led investigators to go and look in her apartment and her room and
01:26:23
they found her Apple watch watch and even though her phone was not there some of those messages still synced to that
01:26:30
watch the hardest thing to do is to go back and read her messages the heinousness of this the
01:26:40
crime itself to shoot her as many times as she had been shot seemed so personal yeah basically almost was like execution
01:26:53
type Style in your mind the motive for murder was get rid of a problem how would you describe this case
01:27:07
a tragedy of Shakespearean proportions [Music] [Music] it's unclear why a 21-year-old student
01:28:03
would be in that area some 30 m away from campus authorities have released limited
01:28:10
details on the case but did say they suspect Foul [Music] Play though it's been years since Cindy
01:28:18
and Keith costell's daughter Ally was found murdered on July 20th 2019 it still doesn't seem real to them it
01:28:27
does seem like she's still away at school and I still don't believe it and here we
01:28:33
are still in denial the costals had visited Ally at her apartment a few days before she
01:28:41
wanted us to stay an extra day she was having so much fun she wanted me to cook our home-cooked meals we went shopping
01:28:48
she loves a beach theme so we just bought a bunch of new Decor you know Cindy and Keith had returned home to St
01:28:57
Louis when Cindy spoke with Ally on the phone just hours before she died it was like 7:00 at night she had just woken up
01:29:05
from a nap because she had a test actually on that day I said what are you going to do tonight she said I'm going
01:29:10
to go out with some friends 24 hours later leet County Sheriff's Department investigator Jared
01:29:18
bundren was hoping Clues from alie's Apple watch might lead to the first break in the case we just started from
01:29:28
there what was she like to you she was like my sister like so many who knew and loved
01:29:35
Ally Maddie Norris one of her best friends in high school was trying to make sense of what had happened I just
01:29:41
was like in shock the two were inseparable it was like if Ally was there Maddie was her I love you too she
01:29:51
was like my other half we have to bunch of adventures together girl things watching
01:29:58
chickflix watching ly [Music] blind driving in her convertible when it came time to go prom
01:30:11
dress shopping she just tried on this red dress and she called her mom was like Mom I have to get this
01:30:18
dress did she have a boyfriend in high school she had boys she had like crushes on but nothing ever
01:30:27
serious she didn't find a date for prom and so I asked her to [Music] be after graduation Ally was thrilled to
01:30:40
be heading to a college steeped in Tradition history and football the University of
01:30:47
Mississippi she liked the preppy life very like girl like pearls Ally arrived in the fall of
01:30:59
2016 but the marketing business major may have had something more on her mind she wanted to meet a southern boy and
01:31:07
get married and have children one day and she thought that would be a a perfect setting for her to meet her her
01:31:14
companion for Life by junior year we were thickest thieves like best friends Morgan Hull went to college with Ally
01:31:23
there's always is like rearranging and redecorating her room too which is always so funny to find little Ally like
01:31:29
moving all the furniture around by herself we were both from St Louis Elizabeth Brock met Ally at a campus
01:31:35
party and became fast friends so then we're like oh my God how did we like not meet until now Elizabeth says Ally was
01:31:44
fascinated by sunsets she had a a sunset Instagram account where she'd post pictures that she took of sunsets
01:31:55
as for dating at College Cindy recalled Ally saying she'd met someone her freshman year she said um I met this boy
01:32:02
he's from Texas she for whatever reason loves the state of Texas and she was really excited to invite him to the
01:32:10
sorority dance that's the boy she really liked what did she first say about him that she
01:32:18
found a guy that was cute that she was stting to like how a crush on that Crush would turn out to be
01:32:28
fellow student Brandon theesfeld from Fort Worth was she really excited about him yes like C Over Heels I think she
01:32:38
took him to most of her date parties that her sity had so when Maddie went down to Oxford
01:32:45
to visit she was looking forward to meeting the new man in Ali's life unfortunately I never met him things did
01:32:54
not go as planned you never met him mm because he never came around never came around how did she feel about that I
01:33:05
mean it hurt her you had like your best friend from high school coming down to visit you
01:33:12
and your crush is Mia Maddie was concerned that there was something about her friend's
01:33:20
relationship that wasn't quite right but other wise Ally seemed to be thriving at
01:33:26
college she loved it she could not get enough of it she finally achieved the goal of going there and she just was
01:33:33
living her life 3 years later her life was cut short now with a clock ticking on
01:33:41
finding her killer Allie's Apple watch proved invaluable to investigators what did the watch tell you the watch was
01:33:50
telling you she was having very lengthy text message coming conv ation with Brandon Brandon theld alli's freshman
01:33:58
year crush it seemed the two were planning to see each other that very [Applause]
01:34:14
[Music] night when investigators discovered that Ali's last text messages were with
01:34:25
Brandon theesfeld they wanted to talk to him and soon we called Blake Saturday early Sunday morning to come in and give
01:34:35
her interview investigators also tried tracking alie's phone on Saturday but it only pinged once in Oxford before the
01:34:43
signal died theld responded but made excuses about why he couldn't meet all weekend finally he said that he would be
01:34:53
there at 8:30 Monday morning and 8:30 Monday morning came no Brandon lefet County assistant district attorney
01:35:01
Mickey Mallet says that's when the decision was made to start tracking his phone when they do that midm morning uh
01:35:09
on a a real time situation they can see where he is what did you find out that he was on Interstate 55 headed North
01:35:17
toward Memphis from here to go to where he lives in Texas that's probably the most common way to go they can see his
01:35:24
location moving away from Oxford District Attorney Ben Creekmore says with theld appearing to be on the Run
01:35:32
investigators got an Affidavit of arrest for murder and immediately sent out a bulletin when we saw that his truck was
01:35:41
leaving Oxford there was a bolo for his tag a bolo on Lookout it didn't take long for the Memphis fugitive task force
01:35:50
to spot these Fells about an hour and a half two hours later they caught him at the gas station bundren says theld was
01:35:57
sitting at the pumps in his pickup truck which had easy to spot license plates the tag on the plates says take
01:36:07
it hard to miss very hard to miss a dash cam captured thel being taken into custody police immediately alerted
01:36:17
investigators in Mississippi about what they found in the truck and on his clothing he had a 40 caliber gun
01:36:25
consistent with the caliber of the shell casings that were found on the scene and
01:36:30
he had blood on him bundren headed north to pick him up he was calm you know read him his rights
01:36:38
he invoked his rights wanted his returning he was picked up in Tennessee we asked him if he would sign a waiver
01:36:44
expedition to come back to Mississippi and he signed it we brought him back with th felt in custody
01:36:51
investigators began retracing his steps the weekend of Ali's murder they learned that he had been
01:36:58
popping up all over Oxford starting on Saturday he stayed with some friends they said it was very casual um they
01:37:07
went bowling uh normal stuff but there was nothing normal about what he brought to a friend's house on Sunday said he
01:37:16
came in to his house carrying a gun and unloaded the gun in the house brought in
01:37:21
a six-pack of beer and said that they set up for a while when he got up the next morning he was
01:37:26
gone while theld wasn't talking to investigators he would eventually talk to an attorney Tony fice hired by his
01:37:36
family he had a life full of Promise uh received uh lots of love in a good Christian family fice learn theesfeld
01:37:45
was a doctor's son he seemed to have enjoyed a typical Texas childhood he liked outdoors hunting fishing he was a
01:37:54
soccer player he had never been in a fight in school no History of Violence it wasn't long after arriving
01:38:02
in Oxford that theld met Ally he met her at a local bar uh they dated casually uh
01:38:10
during their freshman year I think she was uh more enthralled with Brandon than Brandon was with her quite candidly
01:38:19
according to fice their relationship became complicated ated when they were sophomores did he actually block her
01:38:27
from his phone yes she had uh texted him so much late at night when she's out and
01:38:34
uh drinking and partying and uh it got to the point where he did block her phone yes but something shifted by their
01:38:42
junior year and the two got back in touch I think she saw this as a mutual romantic Endeavor and Brandon did not
01:38:53
see it that way which would explain one thing so when did you first meet him I never met him alli's closest friends
01:39:03
didn't know theld at all Morgan says she'd only met him one time get so odd that we were her best friends and we
01:39:11
still really didn't even know him that well like when this happened we didn't even know his last
01:39:16
name but in August of 2019 feld's name was front page news that's when the case was presented to a
01:39:24
grand jury the evidence included pictures of the gun and shell casings and this letter investigators recovered
01:39:32
during a search of his apartment apparently written by theld the weekend Ally was found dead prosecutors say it's
01:39:41
a confession the letter that he's written to his mom and dad concerned about what he's done theesfeld wrote
01:39:49
that he'd always had terrible thoughts and this is the end for me I'm either going to prison or going to die he also
01:39:58
wrote I know I'm going to get caught he confessed I think he did he he didn't say he committed the murder you could
01:40:07
argue that it was a confession an apology to his mom was an apology Tony fice says he spoke to theld about the
01:40:14
letter and says it was also something more a suicide note he writes a goodbye note to his family tells them that he
01:40:24
loves them uh apologizes for what he's done I am told by Brandon that he has the gun to his head and then passes out
01:40:33
the grand jury handed down their indictment Capital One murder at the Time Jake Thompson was a reporter for
01:40:41
the local paper the Oxford Eagle he says th Feld face the death penalty for kidnapping and murdering Ally it rocked
01:40:49
Oxford to its core because you know Oxford takes in these people they they're one of their own for four years
01:40:55
5 years however long you're here and so it was it was tough for both the academic and the university and the
01:41:01
citizens of Oxford in late September theesfeld appeared in court to enter a plea not guilty it's the big question
01:41:09
you know of course why did it happen and that was something that we were all initially trying to to figure
01:41:15
out investigators hope to find some answers in hundreds of text messages between Ally and theesfeld and what they
01:41:24
discovered included some lifechanging news the first messages about it started in early April
01:41:33
[Music] we're stuck can't move forward days are just rough when you think about her not being
01:42:07
here that makes you feel what sad and like [Music] broken back up as Ali's friends and family waited for
01:42:25
Brandon theesfeld to go to trial for her murder prosecutors were building their case all right they were hoping text
01:42:33
messages between the two could provide insight about what may have led to her death we know more about what he may
01:42:41
have been thinking and we know more about what she may have been thinking what was the relationship between these
01:42:46
two well that that might be different depending on who you ask I think it would be fair to say that she looked at
01:42:53
it with a more serious eye over the entirety of their relationship feld's defense attorney Tony fice from
01:43:01
Brandon's standpoint it was a casual sexual relationship they were never boyfriend and girlfriend they didn't go
01:43:07
on dates like he didn't pick her up take her anywhere after to dinner none of that but he would tell her that he
01:43:13
wasn't good enough for her and that's why they couldn't be together Morgan and Elizabeth say was an odd relationship he
01:43:19
definitely manipulated her carried out over text I think we were just more like upset with how if she would show us like
01:43:27
texts from him or tell us things he would say that we really unkind to her so you knew she liked this boy yeah yeah
01:43:35
but she never really had mentioned him at least to me over time or that he was you know even in the scene at all was
01:43:44
there anything in her behavior that suggested things weren't normal see and that's thing she's told
01:43:53
me everything in life but never disgusted him Cindy and Keith say they have not read their daughter's text conversations
01:44:07
uncovered by investigators no we haven't read any of it will you I don't know if
01:44:14
I can in April 2019 just 3 months before her death Ally was getting ready for during semester
01:44:24
finals what her mom didn't know was Ally was focused on a different kind of test
01:44:29
a home pregnancy test when you learned about that was that something so out of line
01:44:40
for Ally in her behavior big time yeah on April 14 she texted Brandon theesfeld a photo of an inconclusive home
01:44:51
pregnancy test and this message like it's a very faint blue line but I don't know I guess I can wait and see if my
01:44:59
period comes th feld's response well all right we will see but if it is pregnant
01:45:06
we are not keeping we can get a pill she was definitely worried she thought she might be pregnant in this text Ally it
01:45:14
seems was anxious and conflicted I'm not saying what I am going to do because I don't know what's happening but even if
01:45:23
you don't want to be involved like I am really pretty and sweet and I know I will meet a real man one day it appeared
01:45:31
thel did not see fatherhood in his immediate future I'm serious no kid at all it will ruin my life she was trying
01:45:40
to get into contact with Brandon about this and she had texted him and he would either just ignore her or do the thing
01:45:46
where he would tell her okay like I will come over tonight and we can talk about
01:45:50
this and then he would never show up so she talked to you about about this yeah she came to us right
01:46:00
away investigators would later learn after Brandon theesfeld received news about that pregnancy test he had been
01:46:07
searching the internet for mother wants kid father does not yes he did um suggest an abortion uh initially there
01:46:17
was uh talk about that he regrets that but uh that did occur that's Memorial ized in the text messages so in your
01:46:25
mind if she was pregnant she would have had the baby she would have given it the
01:46:29
world honestly Ally despite the ambiguous test result would text these fell day and night many of her messages
01:46:37
are long revealing and troubling says forensic psychologist Chris Mandi he was not involved in the case we asked him to
01:46:47
read some of the text messages these lengthy pretty much one-sided conversations that were initiated by
01:46:56
Ally you know with very little in return from Brandon make this a very lopsided investment into this relationship this
01:47:06
exchange begins on Monday April 15 2019 at 12:57 a.m. with Ally writing I lived it up this weekend and was drunk
01:47:17
247 I did that so my body might decide haha no not today then at 2:37 a.m. she texts I thought about it if you want to
01:47:27
talk to me in person that would be better th Feld responds almost 9 hours later I can talk tomorrow I'm busy today
01:47:37
I'm still going to have the decision of the pill to me there's several layers there you sense that at all based on
01:47:45
what you've read that he has any desire to keep her on the sideline it appears that he has no desire to keep her on the
01:47:56
sideline from what I've seen in these communications he's communicating just enough for a purpose to try to influence
01:48:04
her into terminating the pregnancy if indeed she is pregnant that seems to me to be his only investment in any of
01:48:12
these communications Mandi says Ally may have been trying to get Brandon thel's attention with texts about her drinking
01:48:20
in the past 48 hours I've literally drank a full bottle of tequila two bottles of champagne seven beers a glass
01:48:29
of wine I I can't even imagine someone her size being able to consume that much alcohol that's a lot of alcohol to
01:48:41
consume for somebody of her size and for many people if not most people my concern would be you know alcohol
01:48:48
poisoning or an overdose from alcohol which is why I raised the question of how much she's drinking or it's being
01:48:55
exaggerated to show hey to tell Brandon I'm self-destructive come to my rescue you got to help me I'm desperate do you
01:49:04
believe brandan believed she was pregnant I know that Ally claimed to have been pregnant so the question is
01:49:10
why would she claim to be pregnant if she were not pregnant hence my conclusion is that uh she wanted a
01:49:19
serious relationship with Brandon which in her mind could have included marriage
01:49:24
the text messages had created a digital map of a complicated relationship they also gave investigators clues about
01:49:32
where theesfeld was heading a week before Ali's death on Friday July 12th theld would
01:49:42
take a road trip home to Fort Worth Texas that same day Ally texted him a photo of two more ambiguous home
01:49:51
pregnancy tests less than 48 hours later at 4:16 p.m. he posts a disturbing photo on social media
01:50:01
he does a Snapchat saying with with a picture of this 4orty caliber gun and there's a chilling caption finally
01:50:09
taking my baby back to Oxford [Music] by the time Brandon thel drove back from Texas to Mississippi he'd left a digital
01:50:36
footprint and prosecutor say it revealed a deeply disturbing web search history he is doing some computer searches on
01:50:48
how to get away with crimes how to conceal crimes planning preparation type stuff how to tie people up how to lure
01:50:57
them in he did a search on for Ali's friend Morgan it was an eerie reminder a few months before this
01:51:10
happened Ally and I watched the Ted Bundy movie together extremely Wicked shockingly evil vile and we just sat in
01:51:19
her bed and we ate popcorn and snacks and we were like this is so mess up and then months later you know this happens
01:51:25
to Ali what explanation do you have for what he was thinking when he's making these searches well he certainly has
01:51:35
some uh searches that could be troubling it depends on how you view those when you start looking at someone's search
01:51:42
history you're watching TV you've got all sorts of news shows uh that feature Ted Bundy attorney Tony fice says the
01:51:50
search history doesn't prove theld had been planning to shoot Ally he says there's an innocent explanation for why
01:51:58
his client brought that pistol back to Mississippi that's not outlandish that in our part of the country in
01:52:06
Mississippi in Texas uh people people shoot we've got shooting ranges here in Oxford so we deny that it was brought
01:52:13
back for the sole purpose of killing Ali but it was clear to prosecutors thel's trip to Texas and the computer searches
01:52:22
were part of a carefully laid out plan when you put it together would appear to us what his purpose was in bringing the
01:52:29
gun back a gun that apparently he didn't even know how to use if you sit there and you go through all of his Google
01:52:36
searches he don't even really know how to work a gun he was Googling hollow point ammo and what button does what on
01:52:43
a Glock pistol on Thursday July 18th shortly before 2: in the morning Ali text thievel a photo of her
01:52:54
stomach the following day Friday July 19th the day before her death theld texts Ally are you going to be home
01:53:03
today cuz I could visit almost 2 hours later Ally texts him another photo and this message like it isn't like I'm not
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that small anymore and I can pretend I'm fat right now but I don't know it's getting hard after a few more texts from
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Ally th fell writes just let me know when you are back from going out is your house private right now the horrifying
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irony is that text messages from him to her were asking is it a good environment
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are your friends going to be there and you could assume that she's thinking he wants to talk about the pregnancy issue
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and to work on the relationship in his mind he's thinking I don't want any Witnesses when I get her
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in the car with me minutes before midnight a security camera captured Ally walking out of a
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bar in Oxford Square then around 1:30 in the morning prosecutors say theesfeld and Ally take
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that dark and desolate drive to Sardis Lake Once you turn off that paved Road onto the dirt road and then another 10
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minutes to get to here there's no one out here I mean this is an abandoned Fish Camp yes ma'am assistant district
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attorney Mickey Mallet and investigator Jared bundren took us to the place where
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it happened where there's now a makeshift Memorial I mean I can only imagine what was going through her head
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wasn't she alarmed wasn't she concerned you know in her mind she may not have had a reason before that to be in the
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same kind of fear um you know we'll never know but I think she was just so blinded by her
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desperation to talk about what to do in their relationship investigators found cans of
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white claw hard Seltzer on the picnic table 11 shell casings were discovered on the ground would did ballistics tell
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you ballistics told me he was sitting either AC cross RoR on that side of the table uh he fired one shot there was one
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Shas here and the other 10 were in that area coming around the table they was not all in one spot it like started and
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started coming all the way around he circled her yes and with every move he was fired me even one round hit the
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table right there and he just left her here left her here theesfeld knew all about that place
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on the lake he'd been there his freshman year his attorney told us what theld says happened that night he had been
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drinking all that day she had been drinking they're listening to music they start talking Brandon has some cocaine
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he goes to the truck uh does a little cocaine inside of the truck goes back to the picnic table theesfeld he says goes
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back to his truck again grabs his pistol and fires a shot across the lake she states oh you're
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crazy you sit there and talk then he shoots her remember at was shot at least nine
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times why it just came out of nowhere I'm not sure out of nowhere Brandon denies that
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it was planned when he took her out there I don't think Brandon would have been in this situation but for his
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choice of consuming alcohol and then using cocaine so you're saying in that moment under the influence of alcohol
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and cocaine he snapped that's what I'm saying it was out of Rage out of rage and rage for
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what maybe he thought he was going to be a father and he wanted to end it his own
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way [Music] the evidence against Brandon theesfeld according to prosecutors was overwhelming there was a lot of planning
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on th feld's part about what he was going to do I'm not saying it was smart the way he did it but pretty good
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indication that he was looking for a remote location so her body would not be discovered no doubt in your mind that
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this was premeditated no doubt no doubt heat of passion no no was cold and calculated this was calculated over a
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very extended period of time which is why it was capital murder in Mississippi a capital murder charge means another
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felony crime was involved and in this case prosecutors say that crime was kidnapping they believe theld lured Ally
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into his truck under the guise of working the relationship out when he had a 40 Cali pistol
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and had planned her murder all along thel's attorney says that theory might be tough to prove a trial they were
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going to have to show that we kidnapped Ally she voluntarily gets in the truck they're going to try to say that we
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tricked her that's a very very big stretch with thel facing a possible death sentence and prosecutors knowing a
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capital murder trial could be grueling emotional and risky for everyone involved they presented the defense with
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an offer if you get a plea offer other than death then guess what you've got a scenario
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where a plea to a lesser charge of first-degree murder is certainly more attractive and that's exactly what
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happened on August 27th 2021 Too Close Brandon thel dressed in an orange jumpsuit pleaded guilty to first-degree
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murder Ali's family and friends were there wearing her favorite color pink the judge sentenced Brandon to life
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in prison reporter Jake Thompson was in the courtroom we never saw a motion from
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him until uh they The Plea hearing where he spoke or read a little bit he broke down in tears that was the first time I
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he showed emotion feld's audio was muffled when he faced the judge and addressed the court he said in part
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quote there is no excuse for my actions I have asked God for forgiveness and I hope one day that you will find it in
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your hearts to forgive me Brandon dville stood up and accepted responsibility in
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open court and the realization of the consequences of his actions are very real and sobering there is no parole for
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murder in Mississippi so let me tell you that is a terrible penalty why did he say he killed her there is no
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justification for his conduct and I believe no good explanation for what he did does he say why though no I'm just
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telling you to the best of I mean there there is no good answer I think what has
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been explained is he's impaired uh on alcohol he's drunk he's impaired on cocaine we certainly know uh what that
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does to someone's mind you know was he justified absolutely not were they arguing not to my knowledge did the
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allegation of pregnancy going uh on and on and on contribute to that certainly could have he shared with us that he
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didn't uh he didn't know but uh he didn't believe that she were pregnant but he he said he didn't believe she she
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well he doubted that she was he doubted she wasant he doubted that she was pregnant prosecutors say the home
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pregnancy test results were inconclusive alli's autopsy report however was definitive
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we know medically she was not pregnant could ally have been pregnant in the months leading up to her
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death according to a text message she sent theesfeld in early July Ally says she had been bleeding and believed
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something was wrong there was some evidence that would have uh that could indicate she had a miscarriage do you
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believe she was pregnant I do at some point I do to your knowledge was she pregnant we
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just don't know she could have been but also the results were inconclusive so we
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really just aren't sure prosecutors believe what happened between Ally costell and Brandon theld is a
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cautionary tale now I can't imagine how there could be any way possible that Ally could have known that Brandon thfi
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was capable of doing what he did to her if she had any idea that this is what this person
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was capable of she would never have gotten in that truck I think love can blind us to
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certain things that other people can see that we can't Brandon thel's family chose not to participate in our
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broadcast his mother asked his attorney to share these words when I heard Brandon was was being spoken to by the
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police I still had no single thought that it could be him now after 2 years and knowing more of the details of their
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relationship I'm heartbroken for every person this impacts and crushed that our son did not share with us any of the
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turmoil he was trying to manage I encourage every parent to regularly sit down with their children teenagers young
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adults and discuss with them that there will never be anything too big too complicated too out of control that they
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cannot tell you about we will always pray for the family and friends of Ali [Music]
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Castell Cindy and Keith are holding on to their memories how are you doing it's the the the quietest moments that are
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the most haunting chose my life my everything for her friends Ali's love love for sunsets still shines through
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Ally what are you doing taking a picture for sunsets by Alex follow it so every time we see a sunset or a pink sunset
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we're like that's Aly and we just try to live for her and bring her light into the
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