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as a kid I boxed even after I became a licensed attorney while I was a young assistant district attorney here in be
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County I um auditioned for and uh became the host of a local boxing TV show host
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I hosted a show called inside boxing and it was a show that was designed to promote Pay-Per-View boxing cards in the
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San Antonio viewing area for the local cable company at the time my show was really very popular uh and I got to
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interview a band Holyfield Oscar de laoya I was on TV constantly and uh it was a unique time when I would be
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picking a jury and they would say hey he's not a lawyer that's the TV show host guy and I had to say no I'm a real
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lawyer I just do that as a part-time job it's it's a great stress relief from dealing with all the cases just like
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Francis Hall which uh I mean that took a lot out of me emotionally and of course he was draining physically as
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well there's also strategy in both I mean you know boxing isn't just going in there and just blasting the other side
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you have to come up with a fight plan and uh you have to you understand your opponent and what his weaknesses are and
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uh and and appreciate your own weaknesses and you have to try to make it work based on on what you know of
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yourself and what you know your opponent and cases are very much the same you got
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bad facts you have good facts you got some law against you you got some law for you and you got to come up with the
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best plan uh based on that and also you need to understand the person personalities uh the personalities of
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your Witnesses and your client and then when you're picking the jury you got to see well how are my people going to come
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off in front of this kind of jury