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What Ever Happened to Mary Day? | Full Episode

November 22, 2022 / 42:00

This episode covers the mysterious disappearance of Mary Louise Day in 1981, her troubled childhood, and the investigation that followed. Key discussions include insights from detectives Joe Bertina and Mark Clark, as well as testimonies from family members like Sherry Calgaro.

Mary Louise Day vanished from her home in Seaside, California, and her case remained unsolved for over two decades. Detective Joe Bertina took on the investigation in 2002, discovering that her family had not reported her missing. The episode highlights the dysfunctional family dynamics and the lack of concern from her parents.

In a shocking turn of events, Mary was found alive in Phoenix, Arizona, in 2003, raising questions about her identity. The investigation revealed that her stepfather, William Houle, had a history of abuse and was a prime suspect in her disappearance.

As the story unfolds, the episode discusses the complexities of Mary's life after running away, her struggles with identity, and the doubts surrounding her claims of being Mary Louise Day. The investigation takes unexpected twists, including DNA tests and the possibility of an imposter.

Ultimately, the episode raises unresolved questions about the fate of Mary Louise Day and the implications of her family's actions, leaving viewers to ponder the truth behind her story.

TLDR

Mary Louise Day disappeared in 1981; found alive in 2003, her identity remains questioned amid family secrets and unresolved mysteries.

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foreign [Music] [Music] day was a a girl that lived in Seaside in about 1981. she disappeared what do you mean she
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disappeared she disappeared off the face of the Earth [Music] I just knew something was wrong in the
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house Mary days my sister [Music] one day Mary was in California and then she was gone
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[Music] laying in bed one night with Kathy I asked her you know I was like what happened with Mary you know and she was
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like shh don't say anything we're not allowed to talk about Mary when I was 18 and I was like oh I can
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you know go and try to find her [Music] a very hard case to deal with other than the family nobody knew she
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was gone didn't seem to really concern them [Music] I've never seen a case like this
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my mother told me that there were a lot of places in California that you could bury a body and they'd ever be found
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[Music] I started believing she was murdered the dogs went into the backyard we just had an indication from the
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cadaver dogs that there was a human remains there and our guys started digging and uh my
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heart was pounding we were looking for a little girl's body and we found a little girl's shoe
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[Music] William told me that he didn't kill Mary day but his wife told him that he was
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possessed that night in that he had a demon inside of him I've never heard anybody say that before
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[Music] this is a crazy case [Music] Mary disappeared no trace of her for 22 years and then what happens and then I
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get a phone call he told me uh hey Captain he says you sitting down he said gonna let you know that they say that
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they uh they found Mary day and I'm like oh this case just gets weirder and weirder
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foreign [Music] foreign [Music] [Applause] California Detective Joe bertina first
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heard the name Mary Louise day back in 2002 he'd been asked to lead the investigation into her disappearance
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the case was rectangle of weeds that went all different directions Mary we Ary was old when she vanished in 1981
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seemingly Without a Trace there was no evidence that she was alive [Music] Joe's boss
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got a trace of her as an adult no social security record of her having a job getting welfare benefits we have nothing
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on this person's idea she didn't exist she didn't exist Mary's existence came close to being
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completely erased there's no record that her stepfather William Houle or her mother Charlotte had ever reported her
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missing it's hard to believe allowing a child to walk away or a child go missing
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and it's not reported I can't remember a time when a child was not reported by the parents
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thank you [Music] I couldn't understand how a mother could not go to the ends of the Earth to find her
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child [Music] it was this woman Sherry calgaro Mary's sister who finally got authorities on
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the case I wanted to know what happened to my sister Mary was 10 when Mary went missing
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adult she filed a missing about Mary's troubled childhood the information we have through the sisters
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is that it was a very dysfunctional household in their early days Mary day middle
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sister Kathy and Sherry were in and out of a foster home their mother could not take care of them
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Sherry was adopted by the Foster family we were separated when I was six years old
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and Kathy with their mother Charlotte by this time Charlotte had married William Houle and the couple had two
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kids of Their Own [Music] fool was a soldier the family moved around a lot from Base
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to Base at one point detectives say Mary's stepfather had been reportedly physically abusing her
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children's Protective Services had taken custody of Mary she was eventually turned back over to the family in my
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opinion the system failed at the time Mary disappeared who was assigned to Fort Ord on the California
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coast north of Monterey they were living in Seaside which is kind of a military town at that time and
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that's where she was last seen [Music] Sherry who kept in touch with her birth family later visited them
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when I went to visit my family I asked them what had happened to my sister Mary Kathy I was like
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don't say anything we're not allowed to talk about Mary but say her mother Charlotte told them Mary
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had run away at the time I wasn't sure what I thought except that it did make sense to me when
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Sherry grew up she filed that missing person's report by the time Seaside Police launched its
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investigation in 2002 there was little to go on the neighbors barely recalled the family
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living there nobody really knew this family and they sure didn't know Mary day Mary had never been enrolled in school
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in California and her parents never told anyone she was gone where China says they had at least one
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reason to keep quiet Mary had been getting government checks because her birth father had died in an
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accident they were taking on Mary's Social Security checks cashing out detective retainer it's March 3rd 2003
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well camera bird China went to the seaside home Mary's last known whereabouts he brought Kathy with him
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pictures [Music] Kathy was just 11 when she last saw her sister that day lives in my head a lot it feels
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like you're opening up a scab you're opening up and it it hurts because Mary's in mind
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[Music] Mary was at home along with Kathy when the rest of family went out they came home later that evening and
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while they were gone the dog became sick and was dying in the kitchen area when William saw that he immediately
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accused Mary of poisoning the dog and the point was back here foreign he hit her
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last time I saw her she had the blood coming down her mouth [Music] Kathy said after Mary disappeared her
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parents ordered the kids to stay away from one particular area of the backyard and that's what's called as far you
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weren't supposed to come over here who told you that my father the clues were adding up
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detectives felt they could be dealing with something much more sinister runaway teenage girl
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they brought in a team of cadaver dogs train Ed Trey find human remains as the dogs went into the backyard
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they each hit on one particular spot near a tree we started to dig as a father my heart was pounding
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and as we dug I saw a little girl's shoe my heart started pounding even more and I thought here we are we found her
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foreign [Music] the missing persons case of Mary day was quickly becoming a homicide
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investigation police facing the Grim task of digging in the dirt were the cadaver dogs
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alerted [Music] and we kept digging and there was no body I said well we must be here and then and they kept
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digging they were sure that a body had been there they were positive they said you know our dogs don't lie and for them
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independently hitting on the same spot before we dug the dog handler said it's been moved
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at this time there was no question that the parents were the suspects in the possible homicide of a little girl from
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1981. we knew that we had to find the parents [Music] more than 20 years after Mary
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disappeared stepfather William Poole had left the Army and was now at a Kansas prison
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working as a corrections officer he and Charlotte were still together she agreed to talk with local detectives
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about the daughter who vanished so long ago [Music] I remember watching the interview had
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realizing that she had something to tell us you know only you know if I did this and this
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her body language and then her sinking down in her chair and saying words to the effect of you know sometimes you do
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things in your past and it comes back I knew that there was something there much
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less I've heard from Eric anyone my instruction right away Charlotte said Mary running away was no
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big deal she did it all the time it was like trying to get a night crawler out of a wormhole just grabbing
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it it was gone grabbing it was gone all right how many times did she run away you know all these questions I can't
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answer okay when you was back in California did you guys take any kind of stuff to find her
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we should have we should have which did my husband said we filed a police report with the
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Salina's Police Department we did I don't remember there was no record of a report
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couldn't understand a parent number one not reporting their child's runaway but number two treating this
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case the status of their missing daughter has basically no big deal it didn't seem to really concern them
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foreign they were not really really surprised at us being there britaina later questioned Mary's
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stepfather William I just asked him tell me about the last time that you saw Mary he told me that
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well he was going room to room checking on the kids and he discovered Mary wasn't in there
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bedroom he told Charlotte she panics he panics call the police and he knew I wasn't buying that I said
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William she runs away all the time why did you panic I never got a good response
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active press tool and brought up the story of this any he said five or six times you know
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she did she poisoned my dog and I was really angry she tried to run out of the house
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I didn't want her to go so I caught her before she got out of the front door she was kicking me punching me
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so I pushed her and when he's doing this he's making a choking yeah I guess you're he's yeah
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with his hand and it's like a hand strike that I've seen before it's a martial art technique so ask him where
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did you hit her with that and he said well in the upper chest I said could it have been the throat he
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said well it may have slipped off and hit her hit Mary in the throat I wanted to know on a scale of one to ten is
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anger when he had done this when he had struck Mary and he said on one a skull of one to ten
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I was a 15. I said you're this angry I think you may have killed her and he looked at me and said no
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I didn't kill her but the next day my wife Charlotte told me that that night she saw Satan in my
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eyes and she said I was possessed by a demon and then it dawned on me that he's admitting but not admitting
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that he killed her and I said okay William I believe you you didn't kill her but what about that demon inside of
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you could that demon have killed Mary he looked at me and said yes the demon could have killed her when he
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walked out did you think you were letting a killer go yeah yeah Joe said yeah we don't have a body but
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he said this this guy came so close to confessing that it was as close as he's ever had anybody come is that enough to
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go to a prosecutor and say I don't know if we're ever going to get the body but we we have a lot of the pieces of the
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puzzle yeah uh the D.A wasn't ready to file at that time did you think there was enough I thought that was probably
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enough um I was not worried really because I thought we are building the case here
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foreign just as the detective's confidence was growing the case took an unexpected turn
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remember police had no record of Mary Louise day as an adult there were no credit cards no driver's license or ID
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recorded anywhere there hadn't been a trace of Mary in more than two decades until police in Phoenix Arizona made a
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traffic stop I got a phone call I was at home I left work and he told me hey Captain he says
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you sitting down and I said what happened he said no he says it's just going to let you know that Phoenix
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Police Department in Arizona pulled over a car and they say that they uh they found Mary day
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you make of William and Charlotte's stories here's Charlotte's unusual response to
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police searching for her missing daughter on Facebook at 48 hours [Music] foreign
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November 2003 Phoenix Arizona it was a routine traffic stop pickup truck with stolen plates when
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police ran the IDS of the passengers one of them hit a woman named Mary day he said Joe guess
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what Mary day's been found and I I was stunned investigators had put Mary day into a
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missing person's database long ago she identified herself with a phoenix identification card
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or Arizona state identification card back in California Detective Joe bertina felt like a ghost had just appeared
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his mind Mary day had been murdered more than 20 years earlier at the home of her
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parents you talked to William and Charlotte in April of 2003. and then seven months
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later or so a woman named Mary Louise day just falls out of the sky I was stunned
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his boss Steve Cercone could not believe it Joe went down there and he met her and he sent a picture of her and we went
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what wait a minute no all right all right it looked like it could be her and I said I said wait a
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minute all these other bits of circumstantial evidence the father almost confessing almost confessing to
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the murder of a little girl and now here was this woman 700 miles away with a valid Arizona state ID
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strangely that ID had been issued only three weeks earlier while the homicide investigation was underway well you must
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have found the timing awfully suspicious yes it was very suspicious when detective retina went to Phoenix
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the woman he was sure had been murdered told him she had run away from her mother Charlotte and stepfather William
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when she was a teenager she'd basically lived under the radar and by her wits ever since but she seemed hesitant and
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her story seemed sketchy later in a phone call Mary told bertina she had some awful memories did you
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already talked about what happened that last night it hurt I'm sure it does but what
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happened that last night I'm so confused anymore I don't know what's real or not
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I remember you stick around in my head you know when you started bleeding foreign
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but she didn't remember anything about the sick dog was that Troublesome to you that was
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yeah investigators say it was hard to pin down much of anything about her past two
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decades they began to wonder if the woman with the freshly minted ID was really who she claimed to be you refused
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to call her Mary Louise day he called her Phoenix Mary in phone conversations Phoenix Mary was sounding increasingly
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frustrated go ahead Mary if you would have found my bike how are you going to be able to
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prove you the hell I was DNA also sometimes still alive y'all can't prove who I am
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there's no record of you ever being anywhere it's like you haven't existed up until now
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[Music] foreign I said all right let's get a DNA test on this woman let's let her prove that
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she's the daughter of Charlotte we're going to disprove that she's married of course because there's no way that her
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DNA is going to match except it did match he fell on the floor I couldn't believe
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it the DNA came back positive to being a daughter of Charlotte the case was closed
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Sherry invited her long-lost sister to move in with her most cases that would be the end of the
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story but not in this case so now DNA matches case closed yeah well if it were that simple right
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once Phoenix Mary moved in Sherry started to have her own doubts duh first thing I noticed was she it sounded like
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she had some weird Midwestern southern accent weird to me the dialect you got married
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I don't know if I've ever quite heard that particular manner of speaking hey you guys
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yes ma'am we are Miss Mary also said she never used her with me I gave that name up years ago
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what name would they know you by Monica Deborah it's a name she said she made up I did
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notice that she had magazines in the name of Monica Devereaux Sherry's sister Kathy was also unnerved
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no that's not Mary why what makes you so sure something's off [Music] you're telling me that your gut is
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saying it's not her my gut she says the woman claiming to be married didn't even
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remember that their birth father left them in inheritance they could collect at age 18. he it was their shared Escape
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Plan and they had a code word for it was there a code word or some sort of secret
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between you and Mary yeah it was it was called mohawk Mohawk was your secret word yep
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[Music] Harry did something else strange put a note to Detective bertina she emailed Joe and her email said
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something to the effect of I've been lying to you about who I am and that was new information oh my God I
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said oh this is a whole new ball game still the case remained closed [Music] but then in 2008 Steve Cercone now
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seaside's police chief got a phone call from investigators at the army base in Fort Ord
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another set of cadaver dogs had been working on an unrelated matter and had found something
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Fort Ord was a huge place and he said look we brought the cadaver dogs out here and they went over hundreds of
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homes and he said we got a hit on one of the homes you'll never believe who was living in this house he said
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William Hull and his family lived in this house [Music] [Music] in 2008 cadaver dogs alerted near a
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second home where the holes had lived the house they had moved to shortly after Mary disappeared so what are you
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thinking that a body has been moved by this family from one location to another yeah
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once again police dog and once again they came up short was Mary moved twice was this little girl who may have been
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killed back in 1981 was her body moved twice although the case had been closed sir
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cone felt something was seriously wrong I don't know I don't know but we have to
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investigate this he hired Mark Clark a tired homicide detective from nearby Salinas California
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absolutely the most bizarre case I've ever come up against the evidence collected over the year
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Clark was a murder and missed opportunities there's so many parts about this thing
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that could have solved this case back then that is really frustrating he believes they let the parents off the
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hook too soon mom and dad say she ran away don't ever talk about her again they tore up her pictures threw away her
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clothes and that was it most damning he says are Williams own words his comment was I
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couldn't have killed Mary my body would have done it but it wouldn't have been me it would have been
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that demonic personality because I blacked out Clark says he would have arrested William Hall you just admitted
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Panama to a homicide and were letting him go Clark also focused on that shoe detectives found another detective asked
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Kathy about it like first asked did you guys ever wear canvas tennis shoes and Catherine said
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Keds and she said yes and they pulled out the shoe and it's pretty chewed up but you can tell that it's a tennis shoe
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with a canvas body to it and she said exactly that [Music] and he consulted with with Body Farm
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bodies come he says they found soil samples consistent with a body being buried [Music]
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what do you think happened to Mary Louise day she was killed in 1981 and probably around July Clark believes the
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woman now claiming to be Mary day is an imposter there's just too many things that point to Phoenix Mary day being
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somebody else but what about that DNA test showing she's Charlotte hoole's daughter well Mark Clark has a theory
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that he says explains it all even if it is a little far-fetched he says Charlotte hoole had another daughter a
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secret daughter born before Mary and given up at Birth Clark believes Phoenix Mary is that secret daughter so you
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think Phoenix Mary is the actual sister of Mary Louise day who goes missing back
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in 1981 yes he looked into Charlotte's background there's some circumstantial evidence
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that Charlotte had a couple of marriages where she would be involved in extramarital Affairs and become pregnant
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from those affairs Clark says the ghouls could have reached out to Charlotte's Secret daughter when
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they felt they were in trouble I believe she was somehow sought out by Charlotte
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and William to pose as Mary day to avoid prosecution it was an elaborate plot he
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says the holes knew that police were investigating Mary's disappearance and they asked her secret sister to assume
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her identity circone says the hole said the wherewithal to do it what if they took the birth certificate
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of Mary which they probably had and the social security card from Mary what if they gave those cards to the other
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sister and said you're now married there was an inheritance we thought the motivation would be the inheritance
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because she could collect that inheritance with the crude interest that inheritance was now worth roughly 6
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sixty thousand dollars Sherry helped Mary get her cut we reached out to William and Charlotte
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hoole through a relative they said they had no comment Mark says the Imposter Theory accounts
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for a lot of inconsistencies for example Mary's odd southern accent the accent was really thick Sherry and
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Catherine both said that Mary day never had an accent she has a Southern accent it's a pronounced southern accent
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another one question asked if you don't mind go ahead Mary if you would have found my body how are you going to be
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able to prove you the hell I was Mary did claim that she had spent some time in the South as an adult but was
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only there briefly as a child when experts say it would have given her that accent and I let four separate Southern
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dialect experts listen to the interview and they all concluded that it would have taken living her her formative
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years up to nine or ten in the South to acquire this certain accent and there was that email that Phoenix Mary sent
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saying she wasn't who she claimed to be after about a year of living with Sherry
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Mary moved out on her own but the mystery just wouldn't die another detective was about to take a
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crack at the case we have to be very careful all of us in law enforcement not to make our story
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fit our ideas or what we believed happened [Music] in 2017 Sherry calgaro still wanted
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answers about the woman claiming to be her sister basically everyone that's ever met her
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has a lot of doubts I have my own doubts we took Sherry to visit Phoenix Mary in
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Missouri where she'd been living for a few years I'm hoping that she will admit she will
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confess to us who she really is okay good luck bye Mary was living here and suffering from
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late stage cancer she wasn't up for any more visitors that day [Music] as Mary's Hope was failing the new
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acting chief of Seaside Police was determined to solve the case once and for all
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Judy the laws chipped away at the idea that Mary day was murdered for starters additional tests showed
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Mary's DNA matched not only Charlotte but also the birth father and then there was that little girl's
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shoe I put it in the palm of my hand and I mean it fit in the palm of my hand it was very small
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had a hard time believing that a 13 year old would have to be I mean I saw her stature in the picture
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she wasn't that short the laws also traveled to Mary's home she says marry herself filled in the
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gaps she wanted to convince us she was Mary and it seemed sincere Mary said she began calling herself
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Monica when she ran away because she didn't want police to take her back home Mary also mentioned a new name Mori a
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woman she knew in those early days on her own in California the laws Tracked Down Maury Kimmel I got
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her when she was 15. very naive and innocence about her almost like childlike at the time Mori had two young daughters
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of her own she just won my heart and my girls loved her you know that that may have been
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the only and the best family life she ever had in her entire I'm realizing that now you know I wanted to nurture
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her you know but after about a year one day Mary was gone I was heartbroken [Music]
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the laws discovered that Mary had moved around a lot City to City living on the margins
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honestly when I talked to her she just seemed like a Survivor she also solved the mystery of why Mary suddenly
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got that Arizona ID she needed state aid to pay for surgery she had her gallbladder taken out that led her to
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obtain her proper driver's license or ID in the name of Mary Louise day a local non-profit had helped Mary track down
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her real birth certificate the laws chalks up Mary's foggy memory to trauma and a lifelong battle with
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alcohol those gaps in memory to me can be legitimate especially if someone's been an alcoholic from the
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time they've been a teenager for that email Mary sent to detective vertina saying she'd been lying about
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who she was the losses Mary sent a follow-up email writing quote I'm not sure myself what I was trying to say in
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that email again from someone who is still a severe alcoholic in using in us came up with the Smoking Gun one of
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mauri's relatives had a photograph the picture really did it it's Mary she says and it was taken at least a year
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after the alleged murder we took the photo to True face see it I see this a state-of-the-art facial
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recognition Company CEO Sean Moore so we're going to look at the results of our face matching algorithms on the
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images that you all sent us okay and and it's it's trying to see what it's trying to see the probability that
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we're matching a young picture with one of the older pictures so if this is the same person correct it's a probability
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that's the same person the top photo is Mary before she disappeared the other photo is the one that Judy velaz dug up
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what are the numbers telling you and the numbers are telling us that it's the same person
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he says that's a 99 probability with that photo Judy Villas submitted her report and closed the merry day
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investigation this time for good after all these years the woman at the center of this case finally agreed to
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meet with me this is the Mary that I met fragile but not feeble it was clear from seeing her
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in person that this was a woman who had not had an easy life still she didn't seem to be trying to hide anything in
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fact she said it's very frustrating trying to prove who you are when there is no proof
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Sherry is finally at peace it was all of a sudden it felt like I had a weight lifted off of my
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shoulders it was just like it's done this is her that's pretty much the end of that story
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it's not that simple for Mark Clark I've seen the report I'd be lying if it didn't make me second guess my
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investigation even though he can't prove his theory he can't quite shake his old
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hunch that Mary is an imposter do you believe that William cool murdered Mary Louise day at least on the evidence I've
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found yes [Music] as for Steve Cercone I will admit that once I read Judy's report and I saw that
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picture I definitely leaned towards the identity of Mary as being Mary Louise day the
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little girl that we were looking for still he says he is certain of one thing those cadaver dogs were on to something
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foreign they said you know our dogs don't lie they don't lie but who was buried in those grave sites
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[Music] Mary day died nine days after Judy the laws interviewed her there was no
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funeral do you believe that the woman claiming to be Mary day was really her hear more
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This episode stands out for the following:

  • 90
    Biggest twist
  • 85
    Most shocking
  • 80
    Most heartbreaking
  • 80
    Most surprising

Episode Highlights

  • The Disappearance of Mary Day
    Mary Louise Day vanished in 1981, leaving no trace for over two decades.
    “Mary disappeared no trace of her for 22 years.”
    @ 03m 11s
    November 22, 2022
  • A Shocking Discovery
    In 2003, a routine traffic stop in Phoenix led to the discovery of Mary Day.
    “Hey Captain, you sitting down? They found Mary Day!”
    @ 03m 19s
    November 22, 2022
  • DNA Confirms Identity
    A DNA test confirmed that the woman found was indeed Mary Day, closing the case.
    “The DNA came back positive to being a daughter of Charlotte.”
    @ 23m 57s
    November 22, 2022
  • The Imposter Theory
    Mark Clark proposes a theory that Phoenix Mary is a secret sister of Mary Louise Day.
    “There's just too many things that point to Phoenix Mary being somebody else.”
    @ 29m 57s
    November 22, 2022
  • DNA Matches
    Additional tests show that Mary's DNA matched both Charlotte and her birth father.
    @ 35m 03s
    November 22, 2022
  • Closure for Sherry
    After years of uncertainty, Sherry finally meets the woman claiming to be her sister, bringing her peace.
    “It felt like I had a weight lifted off of my shoulders.”
    @ 39m 38s
    November 22, 2022

Episode Quotes

  • This case just gets weirder and weirder.
    What Ever Happened to Mary Day? | Full Episode
  • I couldn't understand how a mother could not go to the ends of the Earth.
    What Ever Happened to Mary Day? | Full Episode
  • I fell on the floor. I couldn't believe it.
    What Ever Happened to Mary Day? | Full Episode
  • It's very frustrating trying to prove who you are when there is no proof.
    What Ever Happened to Mary Day? | Full Episode
  • It felt like I had a weight lifted off of my shoulders.
    What Ever Happened to Mary Day? | Full Episode
  • The dogs don't lie, but who was buried in those grave sites?
    What Ever Happened to Mary Day? | Full Episode

Key Moments

  • Mysterious Disappearance00:21
  • Family Secrets00:36
  • Cadaver Dogs Alert11:34
  • Unexpected Turn18:35
  • DNA Evidence35:03
  • Final Meeting39:01
  • Seeking Closure39:38
  • Unanswered Questions40:55

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