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Jim told you to jump off a cliff, you were going to go jump off a cliff? >> Yes, sir. For for years for years we did
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exactly what Jim told us. So you He wanted full access to our lives. He said he was keeping us safe.
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Like you're living a web of lies. You're talking parallel realities. That's what
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you're doing here. No, sir. Tell me about the day that you got called to the doctor's office. I got a
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phone call. I forget from who. I don't know if it was somebody I knew or not asking if I
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could I don't think it was somebody I knew asking if if I could come and pick her
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up that afternoon. I sat I sat down and and he he said that he you know, he was very sad to tell me
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that Mandy passed away suddenly. So he said Mandy had passed away suddenly. Then what happened?
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He he's I was I was extremely upset. I was Yeah, I like I I thought I was I was coming there just to
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just to pick her up and bring her back. Um >> [snorts] >> He said he said he he wasn't sure what
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had happened. You go to this doctor's office, they tell you wife's dead, you don't ask to
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see her. You immediately >> I did ask to see her. You don't get to see her. You don't force the go any further to
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see her. You just take them at their word. You don't know their names, you don't know their addresses, don't know
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how to return there. Whatever, you just leave. Why did you kill Mindy? Sir, I didn't
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kill Mindy. You killed Mindy. I did not. Are you alleging that Jim killed your wife?
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I don't know, but I think it's possible. She shouldn't have ever been in the situation. She should have never
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listened to Jim.