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I remember waking up in the middle of the night sweating you see when I was a kid I was afraid of the dark
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I started getting into podcast with a lot of America on the podcast serial it wasn't just the dark but what I believed
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waited beyond what I could see I was hooked it was fascinating to me I wonder what it would look like for me to take
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all the skills that I have that I've learned in my career and apply them towards making a podcast about my
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grandmother's murder this is knock-knock the unsolved murders of Betty Jones and Catherine Creek ler
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the first person that I told was my brother and I didn't ask him I told him I said hey Simon I'm thinking about
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doing this podcast about mama Betty's murderer I'd love for you to be involved and he was extremely skeptical I asked
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mom and dad I said listen I'm thinking about doing a podcast but I don't want to do anything if it's going to be too
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painful for you guys I was shocked at how supportive my mom and dad were but I think that they also were hopeful that
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it might bring some resolution for them many people have asked why I'm making this podcast and if you want to know the
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truth I'm making this podcast because what happened to Betty and Katherine is not OK and it cannot be dismissed or
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forgotten my name is Chucky holt and I am the granddaughter of Katherine crackler when he contacted me a year ago
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about this podcast it's totally 100% absolutely I said it just opened up this wonderful wonderful
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hope in the dream that possibly somebody knows something right before this horrific person came
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in the room before all that happened she had heard Betty screaming her name Catherine Catherine Catherine so when I
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was thinking about how do I tell Betty and Catherine's story I just wanted to tell it in a way that was compelling
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enough to make other people care as deeply as I care about their stories but to do this I mean you had to go to
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Starkville for the first time since you were 10 years old yeah pulling up right now I
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remember the most emotional moment feeling that door handle walking on those old wooden floors everything
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became real to me be here I feel like I understand how scary that would have been I wouldn't even a million years
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thought that podcasting would be the way that I would begin to find closure about
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my grandmother's death