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[Music] Sheriff's Office, Shel. And what kind of car do you drive? Okay, sir. I've
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advised my troopers of your location. Just stay right there and I'm going to have an officer come meet you.
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July 23rd. It was about 11:30 at night. What is the address of your emergency? I'm in front of Davis High School. You
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have no idea what kind of a call's coming in. My neck's bleeding. I need help quick. Okay. What happened? I tried
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to commit suicide. Please help me. The minute I turned around and says this female's tried to cut her own throat,
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there's a great urgency. How much are you bleeding? A lot. My shirt is so That means she's losing blood quickly.
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What's your name? Tiffany. Me. Okay. Is anybody with you? Tiffany. My husband and my son. I then asked to speak to her
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husband. Do you have a dry clean cloth that you can apply pressure to her neck? I got my
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shirt. Well, we need something. Are you applying pressure? Yeah, she has her hand on her throat. There isn't anything
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in your car that you can put against her neck. Your shirt? Your son's shirt? You
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know, I couldn't understand. Why isn't he in more of a urgent manner to put pressure on her throat?
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[Music] This is about where I was driving when I was dispatched. I can see the ambulance on the side of
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the road by the intersection. I grabbed my paramedic equipment out of the back and I approached her car.
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Tiffany was sitting in the driver's seat. Her baby was in the back seat and her aranged husband was pacing back and
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forth on the sidewalk next to the car, telling me over and over that she's crazy, that she had tried to kill
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herself. He had no shirt on. I noticed he had blood all over his hands. She's just sitting right in her driver's
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seat of her vehicle with her hands on her neck like that with what I found out later was his shirt.
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But I knew she was in really bad shape. It was a a really severe wound. Tell me where it was. It was straight across her
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neck all the way across. How could she still talk? So her trachea had not been damaged. And so you're able to talk.
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The blood all over the car was just it was unbelievable. I'm looking at this and I'm like,
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there's no way that somebody's going to be able to survive this. Usually when people stab themselves,
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their injuries aren't very significant. She was critical when she came in. She just about cut off her head.
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There was no way that she could have done that to herself and not that deep. I knew that it was called in as an
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attempted suicide. I'm thinking, what am I looking at here? Did you ever expect the case to take you where it did? No.
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Not in a million years. [Music] 48 hours. Don't scream. Reported by Aaron Morardi.
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71 [Music] just after midnight on July 24th, 2013. All right, walk over this way with me.
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Sergeant Bob Thompson arrived at the scene where Tiffany me had been found with her throat cut.
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And what did you know at that point? Absolutely nothing. Tiffany had already been rushed to the
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hospital. But before she left, she changed her story, telling deputies that it was actually her estranged husband,
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Chris Man, who attacked her. She told Deputy Sorenson, "Keep him away from me. He did this to me and saved my baby." If
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she's called this in as a suicide and now she's saying he really did this, you don't know what to believe at that
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moment, right? It's a bit of a conundrum. Tiffany's car was at the scene, but Thompson noticed something didn't look
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quite right. There was blood on the outside of the door, and I'm thinking, how did that blood get there?
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The detective learned Tiffany and her husband had first met up at a secluded park a mile away where investigators
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found a second scene. I could see the blood. So now I know, okay, this must have happened outside of the car and
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before she started driving, right? This woman tried to cut herself and she's clearly injured. To get in a car and
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drive, did that make sense? Didn't make a sense at all. Thompson still wasn't sure what kind of crime he was dealing
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with, if any. Do you know whether it's a attempted suicide, an actual suicide, attempted murder, or a murder? I have no
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idea. He didn't know Tiffany's condition. However, there was someone in custody,
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Chrisman. He hadn't been officially arrested, but he was not free to leave. Man was photographed. His clothes were
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taken as evidence. And then Thompson wanted to hear what man had to say. Why are you here tonight?
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Well, she tried to commit suicide and I helped her out and and exactly help her out. I tried to
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save her. I assisted in saving her. Okay. Thompson learned that man worked for a painting contractor. He and his
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wife had been married 5 years and had two children, two-year-old Noah and Wyatt, who was almost four. The couple
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was divorcing and had met that night so man could give her a child support check. We exchanged a few words and
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I don't know how she began to put a knife to her throat, but okay. She's trying to say I sl her throat.
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According to man, Tiffany was taking anti-depressants. She has a history of being suicidal.
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People don't commit suicide that way, especially for a mother to do it in front of her child. Didn't make sense to
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me. And neither did man's oddly calm demeanor. Was he concerned about his his aranged wife? Uh, no. He didn't ask once
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how she was doing and he never asked where his child was. But what Thompson wanted most from Mr. Man were details
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about what led to his wife's horrific injuries. I don't remember it, but if you don't
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mind, I kind of really don't want to talk about it anymore. Why wouldn't you remember? It just happened a few hours
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ago. He can't remember any details. And what's going through your head? That he did this.
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Man was arrested and charged with attempted murder. Attempted because somehow, despite the
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devastating injuries, Tiffany me survived. Show me where he got you. [Music] He started over here.
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He went straight across and he stopped right before my artery on this side. It's been more than 5 years, but Tiffany
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is permanently scarred. Every time you look in the mirror, are you reminded of that night?
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I avoid looking in the mirror as much as possible. You know, this girl is strong. She is
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strong. errands. At the time, Lieutenant Jen Daly was Bob Thompson's partner on this case and his boss. She vividly
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remembers arriving at the hospital to get a statement from the 22-year-old who was in critical condition. I will never
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forget, I can still see her laying in that hospital bed. I'm looking at that wound and the whole time I'm thinking,
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how? Tiffany told Daly she had only agreed to meet her aranged husband because he
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promised to bring that child support check. Their relationship was now so toxic they mostly communicated by text.
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He told me not to bring anyone. He kept reminding me to come alone. Come alone. Tiffany texted that she would have to
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bring 2-year-old Noah. At the last minute, man picked this out of the way park to meet. They come in from just the
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east side here. So they pull in here. This is where her car was parked. So Tiffany's here, right? We've got some
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empty space. Yes. Chris pulls in there. They walk towards each other. I was terrified. He had this look. He was so
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determined coming at me. I didn't know what he was going to do. She says suddenly man grabbed her in a bear hug
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and backed her up against her car door and he had one hand on my mouth. He pulled something out of his pocket
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and he slit my throat. And as he's slitting my throat, he says, "Sh, don't scream. Stay calm.
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and I didn't scream and I told him I was getting dizzy. So he opened my car door for me so that I
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could sit and he said, "You know what I want? Say it." So I said, "I love you and I'll get back
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with you." And then he said sill with a kiss and he leaned in and he kissed me. as blood's pouring out of my neck.
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Then he said that we needed to come up with a story if I was going to call 911. So I said, "Okay, I'll tell him whatever
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you want me to do." But first, Tiffany had to get herself out of this remote area. I had to get somewhere where I
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could explain to 911 where I was. All I could think was I had to get my baby to safety.
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Somehow Tiffany managed to drive with one hand on the steering wheel, the other holding back the blood pouring
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from her wound. When she got to this bus stop with her husband beside her, he let
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her call 911. What? What happened? I tried to commit suicide. Please help me. As soon as there were sheriffs between
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me and Chris, I let him know. Chris did this. He tried to kill me. Lying in the ambulance near death, she
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called her mother. She called and she said that Chris had tried to kill her and she
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needed me to pick up Noah. I had no idea what she was going through at the time.
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As I was laying in the ambulance looking up at the lights, I was thinking, "Oh, it's over.
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Noah's safe. I can die now. [Music] [Music] Chris man was in custody and charged
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with attempting to murder his ex-wife. Something unimaginable 5 years earlier when the couple first met online.
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Tiffany was a high school senior. He was in the army. He was really sweet. Were you in love? I thought I was.
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Just 6 weeks later, they eloped. It wasn't long before they became parents. But when man returned from his
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deployment in Iraq, Tiffany says he became emotionally abusive and very volatile.
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He could change on the drop of a dime. Just little things would make him so angry. Although he never hit her, she
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lived in fear of his rages. Why did you stay? The biggest reason I was just I was scared. I didn't think I
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could do it on my own. But in late 2012, Tiffany finally had enough and fled with her boys. They
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moved in with her parents and she moved on with her life, working full-time and going to college at night. She even
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started dating a new guy. How did Chris take you leaving? Not well. It was always, "Come back to me.
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You're not going to be able to do this by yourself." But the facts of what happened that
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night weren't as clearcut as detectives Jen Daly and Bob Thompson thought. It's dark. We take a quick picture of his
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hand. No one sees or hears anything and you have Chris Man saying one thing and you have Tiffany me saying a completely
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different thing. He said, she said. They didn't even have the knife used to slit
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Tiffany Me's throat. Daly believes as Tiffany drove down this dark road holding her bloody neck, her aranged
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husband tossed the knife out the window into this deep ravine. It's so thick from years of the
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overgrowth. And we did everything to uncover that knife. I mean, metal detectors, cadaavver dogs, and you
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think, "Oh my goodness, are we going to lose the case because of something like that?" I mean, if you had the knife and
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you could see whether his DNA was on the knife, that's going to help fingerprints. Any of
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it's very difficult without some physical evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. Adding to Daly and
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Thompson's concerns, a month after the attack, the judge received this unsigned letter.
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I am a good friend of Tiffany, but I can't see letting this happened to Chris for his kid's sake. The letter writer
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claimed Tiffany had cut her own throat and was trying to frame Chris Man, exactly what he had told police.
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any side of you think, "Oh my god, could that be true?" We took this as something
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that was credible. I mean, obviously, this needed to be followed up on. The return address was from a Mary Olsen in
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Ogden on Monroe Street. But as the detectives soon discovered, the address didn't exist. And it seemed
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neither did Mary Olsen. I run the driver's license of every Mary Olsen in the state of Utah that roughly
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matched Tiffany's age group. Uh, nothing. There's nothing. I didn't even know anyone named Mary at the time. Who
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do you think arranged for that letter? There's no doubt in my mind that Chris did it.
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Davis County Attorneys Richard Larson and Jason Nelson also suspected an connection, but they still needed proof
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to tie man to the letter and to bolster their attempted murder case against him.
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We were absolutely convinced that he had inflicted the injury. That wasn't the big question. The big question was what
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was his intent when he did it. This case rose and fell based on that one question. Was Chris Urman actually
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trying to kill his aranged wife or merely injure and scare her? The defense could argue that Chris let Tiffany call
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911 and he gave her his shirt to help stop the bleeding. Do you have a dry clean cloth that you can apply pressure
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to her neck? I got my shirt. Prosecutors feared without more evidence, jurors might conclude that
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this was an aggravated assault, not an attempted murder, which meant man could be out of prison in a year.
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What's your fear if he gets out? He'll try it again. I was angry. Internally angry.
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I I couldn't even wrap my head around it that you could do that to a human being
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in front of a child and a year later you're free to walk around. She looked at us and said, "That's not good
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enough." Jen Daly believed that making sure Chrisman stayed locked up was the only way to keep Tiffany alive.
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And I said, "I want to start listening to jail phone calls." Hello, this is a prepaid collect call
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from an inmate at Davis County Jail, Utah. A month after man was arrested, Daly started listening to his phone
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calls. Something every inmate is warned about repeatedly. This call is subject to
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recording and monitoring. What's the chance he's going to say anything incriminating on a phone call? Oh,
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stranger things have happened. I don't want to do it over the phone. Okay. I really wanted a confession because if we
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got the confession that that's what his intent was, then I knew we could put him
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away longer. So, I listened and I listened some more and I listened some more after that.
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Daily listened to hundreds of phone calls and watched endless jail house visits. And people would come in my
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office and tell me, "I can't believe you're still listening to it." And I would look at them and say, "Neither can
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I. I would like to stick pencils in my ears. You know, when you set your appointment, but with no revelations
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after three months, Daly reluctantly gave up. My gut kept telling me, "You've got to keep listening. It's there. It's
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there." So, she started again, picking up where she left off. What's his name? What if that's where his confession is?
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Daly had gotten up to man's December 2013 calls made five months after the attack. You may start the conversation
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now. This call he was on the phone with his father. Write down this name. Um Raymond. Raymond. Yeah. And tell Kenny
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to just Facebook him and tell him that I'm in here. And I took a yellow sticky note that exact size one like this.
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Exactly that size. and I wrote the name on that yellow sticky pad. She had no idea if the name had any significance.
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Can you ever Facebook that dude for me? I will. But as she listened to more calls, do you by a chance call that one
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dude? It was clear to Daily that for Chris man, contacting this dude was urgent. Give me that dude's address so I
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can give him a write write him to him if you can. Yeah. What's his name again? Dad has it written down.
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Man only mentioned his friend's name once, but that's all Jen Dailyaly needed. I looked at that sticky pad. Still had
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that name written on it. And I pulled it off and I remember it was stuck to my index finger and I walked down the
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hallway into his office and I held my hand out just like this and I said, "I need you to find this guy. Find him for
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me. [Music] What's been the hardest part? What's been the toughest for you? getting used
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to all my new fears, things that most people don't think twice about. For Tiffany me, memories of that harrowing
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July night are everywhere. Driving at night, the sound of dripping water. Dripping water? Why? Because I heard my
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blood dripping in the car into a pool. Lieutenant Jen Daly was convinced that keeping Chris Man behind bars was the
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only way to keep Tiffany safe. And she knew she was on to something with that sticky note. Whatever you heard in
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January of 2014 changed everything in this case. It took this case in a place that we never saw
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coming. It turned out the Raymond Man mentioned is a former inmate. were only using his first name. He had served time
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on a methamphetamine possession charge. Now out on probation, Raymond agreed to talk with the detectives on camera,
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although he wasn't quite sure what about. Raymond, we want to ask you some questions about when you were in our
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jail. Okay. I spent 90 days in like Davis County and so I'm doing pretty good because to be honest being skinny
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and weak and ridiculous all the time was kind of not my lifestyle. Like of all he's a character but when he talks
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it's instantly credible. He doesn't have anything to hide until Sergeant Thompson
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brought up Chrisman and something changed. Did you get to know any of the inmates in there? What about a guy named
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Christopher Man? Oh, yeah. Yeah, he's a quiet guy. Did he ever talk about the situation that he was in with his
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ex-wife and all that stuff? Yeah. Tell me about that. What happened in jail stayed in jail,
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man. But Daly saw a chance to appeal to Raymond's conscience. Okay. There's a time to do what's right.
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This is one of those moments in your life that you can start with that. It worked. Okay. So, what do you want to
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know specifically? Tell us. Tell me about his conversations. What do you know? Just
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admitted guilt, man. I guess like that he's the one that cut her throat. For prosecutor Richard Larson, that was
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a crucial admission from Mr. Man. Up until that point, he had claimed that he had had no involvement. And that wasn't
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all. Raymond told them about a handwritten letter that man gave him to copy once he got out of jail, saying
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that I was his wife to the judge that is presiding over his case, saying that she
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admitted that she lied and that the allegations were false. It sounded a lot like the other letter from Mary Olsen.
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Remember, authorities suspected it was orchestrated by man, but they couldn't prove it. If they could find this letter
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in Man's handwriting, they could charge him with obstruction of justice. Well, let's get that letter. Yeah. Where's it
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at? I have to find it, dude. I think it's in Ogden. And while Raymond was getting things off his chest, Thompson
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took a chance. Did he ever ask you to do anything to Tiffany? Uh, yeah. That question was purely just a
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shot in the dark. Tell me about that. He just asked me if I had the connections to arrange
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for bad things to happen to her. I told him that I did not. And you can see Jen all of a sudden leans forward like,
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"Holy cow, you said bad things." What are bad things? To arrange her death specifically.
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[Music] According to Raymond, man asked him to hire a hitman to silence Tiffany for
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good. At that moment, we realize that this has gone to a whole new level where um we've got somebody who's in custody
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that is still trying to orchestrate the death of his victim. And if they could prove that Chris Man
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was looking to put out a hit on Tiffany, they could charge him with another crime, solicitation to commit aggravated
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murder, potentially ensuring that he would stay behind bars for the rest of his life. But first, they had to warn
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Tiffany. He wanted to have me killed. He wanted to have someone else do what he couldn't.
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[Music] I remember everyone was asleep just sitting on the floor crying and rocking
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back and forth and wondering if I could ever leave the house again. And the case against man got stronger
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when Raymond was able to find that man letter. I remember Jen and Bob coming in with great big smiles on their face and
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they're like, "We've got it." A handwriting analysis confirmed that man had written it. Next, Daly and Thompson
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sent Raymond back in to visit man through the jail's video conference system. How you holding up, bro? Uh, not
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bad. You know, just just chilling. The goal to get man on tape telling Raymond to send that letter to the judge and
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more important to order a hit. I've still got that letter, dude. Like I've got that ready, bro. Like, do you want
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me to send it? Yeah, you can do that. You got him. On obstructing charges. But when it came to the hit, you remember
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that work that you needed done, though? Yeah, dude. I've got that guy, bro. I can't do it at this time. No.
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Should I try to like negotiate a little bit and see what I can do or what? Um, let's just wait on that. Without that
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green light from man, prosecutors didn't have enough for the solicitation charge
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and they had used up their source. All right, man. Peace. It seemed like a dead end. It sucked. There's no doubt about
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it. There was a devastation and and it was interesting because then it was like, where do we go from here? I
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couldn't give it up. I'm glad I never gave it up because the next step came. If I hadn't have told him what he wanted
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to hear, there is no doubt in my mind that he would have happily watched me bleed to death.
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Davis County detectives Bob Thompson and Jen Daly were convinced that even from jail, Chris Man was still trying to kill
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his wife. They just couldn't prove it. We were done at that point, or so we thought.
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And then out of the blue, Daly heard from an old friend, a jail house informant who had given her
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information in the past. He's a bad guy. He's hurt people. You wouldn't want to meet him up in an alley. The inmate,
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we're not using his name, and we've obscured his face, was back in the Davis County Jail in the same cell block as
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Chrisman. And he told Daly he had information he was willing to trade for help with his case. And I told him no.
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So you're either going to tell me what you have or this is done. Daily knew from experience how unreliable this
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particular inmate could be. In one minute the guy has amazing information and it's validated and in the next
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minute he screws you. Still, this snitch knew specific details about Tiffany's attack.
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And there was more. Chris is trying to get him to hire somebody to kill Tiffany.
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I almost fell off my seat because if anybody could do it, it's him. This heightened it even more for me.
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So Daly and the team decided to set up a sting and arrange for man to be introduced to a person posing as a hired
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gun. Don't you worry about this idea that the defendant can say this was entrament. I wasn't planning on hiring a
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hitman. Not at all. I mean the case law is very clear. It's only entrament if the government is convincing somebody to
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do something they wouldn't otherwise do. You don't go and say, "Hey, can I do this for you?" It's I've heard you want
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me to do this. Is that correct? You been doing though, man? You've been working out in there or what? So, they turned to
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an undercover cop. We're calling Jim Kelly. This is you, correct? At that time, Kelly was working in narcotics and
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knew how to deal with informants. The detectives put their plan in motion and sent Kelly to visit the informant at
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the jail. Right as I came back, he came right to the room real interested. That's him in the upper right hand
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corner talking to Kelly. Where's man? Tell us to come here for a second. He had told man he was meeting with a
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hitman who could help him out. Okay, I think he's going out behind him already. That's Chris Man and he's taking a look
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at you because he wants to get he wants to see who he's talking to because he's curious to see who who is this person
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that's going to come do this for me. But looking is all man does. Instead of talking, he hands the inmate a piece of
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paper to show to the hitman. Can you see that? Yeah. Okay. It's the address where
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Tiffany is staying. And is it the correct address? It is. It shows that he's starting to take the bait.
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It's a start, but prosecutor Larson says it's not yet enough to bring new charges. The criminal act is the
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solicitation to have her killed. Just because he provides an address of his victim isn't enough. They needed man to
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confirm on camera that his ex-wife was the target. Detectives warned Tiffany about the
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latest threat and asked her to pose for photos staged to look like surveillance photos taken by the hitman. We filled up
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some bags and she got in her car and then got out and was walking into the house as if she just got home from
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shopping and we took photos. Jim Kelly then headed back to the jail with the photos. But when he got there,
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the whole thing falls apart. It starts to implode. Yeah. The notoriously unreliable jailhouse informant wanted a
00:32:42
deal. He refused to cooperate any further unless he was released from jail. Prosecutor Jason Nelson got the
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call. I was not very happy we weren't going to be extorted by someone trying to leverage us with evidence of a
00:32:57
potential first-degree felony. They quickly moved the snitch out of the cell block, but Bob Thompson was
00:33:06
convinced he'd already tipped off man. It's all over. That's what it felt like. That's what it felt like to me. I
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thought all this hard work just became unraveled by a career criminal. Still, Jen Daly was determined.
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I wanted the undercover cop to still go in, only visit Chris this time. And he was, "No, no, it's not going to work."
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And I'm like, "I don't care. I'm doing it anyway." 6 days after that first visit, Jim Kelly
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walked back into the visitor's entrance of the jail, asking to see Chrisman. Jen Daly was in her office watching the
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clock. and praying. I was a basket case. Like I seriously had butterflies in my belly to the point
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I thought I was going to throw up waiting. And tick tock, tick tock. As Jen Daly waits, undercover cop Jim
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Kelly returns to the Davis County Jail along with those surveillance photos of Tiffany Me. He knows it's a gamble with
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long odds. Would Chris man be willing to talk to him. You don't know whether he's
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going to pick up the phone or not, right? I can hear myself talking. Please, Lord,
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please let him pick up that phone. Please help her. And the next thing I know, I'm on the phone with him. What's
00:34:54
up, man? Not much. How are you? Good. How are you? It's man. That's me. Kelly posing as a hitman
00:35:03
needs to get man to identify the target and give him the go-ahad. I took a couple pictures and just want to verify
00:35:10
with you. Yeah. So, Kelly shows him the surveillance photos taken by the detectives. Do you see that?
00:35:20
Yeah. Is that right? Yeah. Is that her? Yeah. Okay. So, no matter what, you know, on your
00:35:31
own that he wants something done to his son. Done to her. Yeah. Exactly. Man had backed out before. So, Kelly
00:35:40
needs to find out if he's really serious about killing his wife. Some people say,
00:35:46
you know, I want to kill my wife. And then other people say, "I want to kill my wife." Right. What kind of things did
00:35:53
you ask him to make sure he really wanted her dead? Um, I mean, because we're being recorded
00:36:00
and he knew we were being recorded, we had to kind of speak in a code. So, what was telling me was,
00:36:07
you know, make it happen. Yeah. Yeah. Just, you know, have fun. And so I had to do the best I could in making sure
00:36:15
that we were talking about what we believed we were talking about. And you're saying I mean all the way, right?
00:36:20
Not Yeah. Have fun. Okay. Three or four times try to say things like, you know, this is, you know, we're going all the
00:36:28
way. And making him affirm that. And he just says, "Yeah, go have fun." Yeah. Go
00:36:33
have fun. Was hard to hear. Is there a time period? I mean, is there a No. No. No. Sooner the better. Sooner the
00:36:42
better. Yeah. Okay. And then it's time to talk money. I've never been asked to kill anybody. I don't know what the
00:36:49
dollar figure is. So he went where we all go for answers. Google. You can actually Google the going rate for
00:36:57
murder. Fortunately. Yeah. We put that into Google and we found a number. I'm thinking about 5K. Yeah. Does that work?
00:37:05
Yeah. Kelly had the green light from man, but just to be sure, he asked again. So, but just so we're clear, I'm
00:37:14
talking about, you know, we're not I there's no way to come back from it once I'm once I do it. You're good with that?
00:37:20
Yeah. Yeah, it's good. 5,000's good. Yeah. Okay. Well, I'll I'll uh I'm planning on taking care of it this
00:37:27
weekend. Okay. Back in her office, Jen Daly gets the news she had been praying for. And I
00:37:44
went from complete almost despair that we lost this case to elation like I haven't felt in the blink of an eye. It
00:37:52
was the best feeling ever. We knew this was a solid case and we knew that we could get the conviction now.
00:38:04
Daily then calls Tiffany. I was so relieved. The best feeling you'd had in a while.
00:38:14
Yeah, that was probably the safest I had been since all of it started. Along with the attempted murder charge,
00:38:23
prosecutors now added obstruction of justice and solicitation to commit aggravated murder. That man committed
00:38:31
more felonies in the jail than he did when he was free. It took Jen Daly and Bob Thompson almost a year to get the
00:38:40
evidence they had hoped would keep Chris man locked up, but the case would never
00:38:45
go to trial. Disappointed. No. No. For Tiffany. She didn't want it to go to trial. Prosecutors offered
00:38:54
Chris Man a deal and he pleaded no contest. I mean, I'll take blame for it. Yeah, I did it, but I was not in my
00:39:02
right mind. I'm not dangerous. Chris says that he was suffering from PTSD. Right. You don't buy that? I don't buy
00:39:10
it at all. We had no actual diagnosis of PTSD. For us, we believed that that was
00:39:17
fictional and that he was only saying that to try and negate his personal accountability. Man's plea means he
00:39:24
could spend anywhere from 6 years to the rest of his life in prison. By law in Utah, it will be up to the board of
00:39:33
pardons and parole to decide when man will be released. Jen Daly makes the 150 mile drive to be
00:39:47
at the hearing and to support Tiffany. Oh, there's my girl. How you doing, honey? I in my career have never
00:39:56
attended a parole hearing and I won't miss one of his. I hope that I can help keep him there as long as possible. He's
00:40:04
that dangerous. Yes. At Tiffany's side is Butters, her very protective emotional support dog. I have to do
00:40:13
everything in my power to keep this monster locked away. [Music] I wake up every morning wondering if
00:40:28
today is going to be the day that Chris will send someone to have fun killing me. I am here again
00:40:37
terrified if he's ever released. There is no doubt in my mind he will come for me and he
00:40:46
will finish what he started. Please help me keep my kids safe. Tiffany will have to wait for the
00:40:53
board's decision. But 5 years after she was almost killed, her future seems brighter. Besides her
00:41:02
loving family, she has a new husband and her everpresent guardian angel, Captain
00:41:08
Jen Daly. I'm so happy you you did such a good job. You were strong. [Music] She's moved mountains.
00:41:19
She's She's helped save my life. I don't know why the cards fell the way they did. I'm just grateful it all
00:41:28
worked out for Tiffany me because I got involved into this job in 1989 to help people and I can say I helped one person
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