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[Music] this has been a Hampton County story this has been a Hampton County Scandal a jury found the disgraced South
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Carolina attorney guilty of murdering his wife and his youngest son this has been the downfall of a family Dynasty
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today is not the end it's the next step and a long road to justice for every person who has been victimized by Alex
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Murdock Justice for Steven Smith Alex Steven Smith was another body in this orbit of the Muro family Steven was a
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gay young man in the low country of South Carolina that is courageous and and of itself I can't imagine the terror
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he was in that night in the early morning hours of July 8th 2015 19-year-old Steven Smith was found
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dead in the middle of a rural road there was an autopsy that basically said is a hit and run there was no vehicle
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debris no broken headlight paint scrapes or or anything you never believed it no
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not at all they never would have been walking in that road not voluntarily do you
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believe Steven was murdered I do an investigation of some sort took place that led
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nowhere and then it went cold I wanted a second opinion Sandy Smith is unique in this
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whole story she doesn't know who killed her son she doesn't know why people in town really believed that it was
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connected to the murdocks in some way the name Buster Murdoch kept coming up I never had anything to do with his murder
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and I never had anything to do with him on a physical level of of any regard the
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rumors also suggest uh a cover up we are aware of no evidence today that would suggest that any mdll
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played any role in Steven Smith's death or played any role in trying to cover up
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the investigation into his death all I want is peace and knowing what happened to my son he's my world and I'm going
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fight to the end this is a woman that has fought this battle alone since 2015 screaming as loud as she could with
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not a lot of people listening CBS News confirming that the South Carolina law enforcement division
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is now investigating Steven Smith's death as a homicide the Murdoch case for all
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Steven's Cold Case to life somehow some way in the Mur murder investigation a new thread was opened up into Steven
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Smith our primary function right now is to have that body exhumed have a true independent set of eyes look at it and
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tell us once and for all what really happened to Steven Smith the gash was from part of this eyebrow across here
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the injuries can tell us so much about what happened and in this case they did they
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did set the scene for me on July 8th 2015 here Steven was was somewhat right here in the
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road how confident are you that you know what happened to Stephen Smith that night I'm as close to a degree of
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scientific certainty as I've ever felt [Music] [Music] like his mother Sandy Steven Smith was
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born a fighter he was a preey he weighed 2 lb 12 O a twin yeah twin born at 27 weeks with his sister Stephanie Sandy
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says Steven couldn't breathe on his own after several months she was told he might not make it and she was finally
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allowed to hold her baby for the first time how was that moment oh my gosh it was amazing it was supposed to be my
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goodbye but he started breathing on his own cuz he felt you yeah that's why he was my
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heart Sandy never dreamed she'd W day be fighting for answers in her son's death
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how would you describe the journey that you've been on for justice it's been a hard journey just living day by day and
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fighting day by day on July 8th 2015 Steven was found dead on a country road in Hampton County the same county where
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three generations of myall men had held the top prosecutor job for nearly a century the myall still loomed large
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over small town life Alec Mur coached Steven's baseball team at one point when they were little I think Steven was like
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or eight Steven and Stephanie were also classmates of myrdal's older son Buster before Steven went to nursing school
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with dreams of one day becoming a doctor he wanted to be a doctor but it was more
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expensive so he just started with nursing school he loved dealing with medicine and I he just loved it you must
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been so proud oh I was but instead Sandy says those dreams were buried with her son you decided to bury him and his his
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scrubs scrubs Dr Steven Smith he had everything he needed in his pockets he had his stethoscope and everything he
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needed Steven had just completed a semester of school and was taking summer classes shuttling back and forth between
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his parents who lived apart he had visited Sandy a week before he was killed a storm started Brewing I told
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him that he needed to hurry up and get back to his dad's house so when he made it he texts me and says I made it safe
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Mom Mom I love you Sandy says those were Steven's last words to her days later she would hear the news that would alter
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the course of her life July 8 I was on my way to work and I was listening to a local radio station and I heard that
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they had found a body Sandy called her daughter Stephanie right away she said Mama did Steven stay with you last night
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CU he didn't come home last night then my stomach dropped and I knew it was him [Music]
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Sandy says Steven's father Joel went to the Sheriff's Office for confirmation that it was Steven that's when she says
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they received a call I was on the phone with Joel the whole time while we were waiting for the sheriff to come out and
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that's when Joel asked me to hold on because Randy murd was calling Randy murall is Alec mural's older brother and
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had been representing Joel Smith in a worker's comp case but now he was calling about Steven when Joel got back
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on the phone he said Randy asked if that was our Steven and that he wanted to help pro bono did you think it was
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strange that Randy offered to help pro bono well I did but Joel thought it was a nice gesture later
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that morning Sandy says she was surprised again as she drove past the scene where Steven's body had reportedly
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been found there was Alex and Randy standing on the opposite side of the road Murdoch Murdoch
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a few minutes later Sandy says Randy myall called again and asked if that was me that passed by he said I wish you'd
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have stopped so I could have met you Randy myall declined our request for an interview but through his attorney he
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provided a written statement to 48 hours in which he said quote I was not aware of Steven's death until Joel told me
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they wanted my involvement and I contacted law enforcement on their behalf murall said he went to the scene
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with a private investigator after meeting with jool and Stephanie adding quote claims that I visited the scene of
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Steven's death with my brother Alec are false Joel Smith passed away three months after
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stepen but Stephanie and Sandy told us they never asked the mdll for help and there were other things about Steven's
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case that didn't sit well with Sandy from the moment the sheriff confirmed the body was Steven's at first he told
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them Steven had been shot what were you thinking who would shoot him it made no sense I lost it then I left my job and
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just drove back to Hampton and we just mourned together we just couldn't understand why or who it was
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just a bigest shock of our life within hours Steven's cause of death was suddenly changed to a hit and
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run toward the evening time we were contacted by the Sheriff's Office and after his autopsy there was not any type
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of bullet or bullet fragment found in his head because his body was in the roadway it was being ruled to hit and
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run retired South Carolina Highway Patrol lieutenant Thomas Moore was the on scene supervisor I was told that the
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medical exam made that ruing when I reached out to her it became a little bit heated give me an answer medically
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that would lead you to believe he was hit by a car there was no medical reason did you see any signs of a run no ma'am
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none any type of debris any kind of glass car parts piece of plastic anything that looks like it may be
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related to a vehicle also unusual for a hit and run Steven's clothing was intact
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and his shoes which were Loosely tied were still on generally clothes are torn or unraveled and shoes have come off and
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Steven's car keys and cell phone were in his front pocket unharmed and mo says Steven's body appeared staged
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his body was laying like it had been placed in a certain position not what you would typically see and it looked
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like somebody had hit him in the head with some kind of object meanwhile Steven's wallet was still in his car
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which investigators found three miles away with the doors locked and the gas cap hanging open in all the years I've
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worked a car sitting on the side of the road a gas cap off is not normal I thought it was staged like his body was
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staged in the roadway Sandy says she wondered if Steven might have been the victim of a hate crime did you think
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that it was possibly because of his sexuality I did think that I know he was teased a lot at school but he still held
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his head high but Sandy says in the days leading up to his death Stephen was worried about his safety he' called his
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sister Stephanie for help the day before he was killed Stephanie said the battery
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cable was loosen on his car so she had met him and then she tightened the battery cable and she asked to get out
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the car and help her and he said no I'm not getting out like he was scared right
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but he never said why despite what Lieutenant Moore felt were suspicious circumstances he says
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once Steven's death was ruled a hdden run it became the highway Patrol's job to solve the case instead of the Hampton
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County Sheriff's office or sled the South Carolina law enforcement Division I felt like the case for lack of better
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word was being pwned off on us no matter what we said we were going to be the ones investigating that case as we were
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getting started certain names started coming up which names [Music] murd soon after Steven Smith was killed
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Hampton County Guardian managing editor Michael dwit says he began hearing persistent rumors all over town what are
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the rumors that at least one Murdoch child was in a vehicle with other boys and allegedly somebody in the vehicle
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struck the young man with the baseball bat and killed him Sandy says those same rumors had
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heard doorstep as soon as Steven's body was taken for an autopsy it made no sense to me at any point did you think
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that someone in the murof family was involved well the longer it went on the more I was asking myself
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questions but I just couldn't find a connection powerful family and then you got stepen who was just Steven Sandy
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couldn't help but think back to her last conversation with Steven a week before he was killed somebody was messaging him
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a lot he told me that he was going deep sea fishing and he said ke wish and I said well who are you going with he said
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well I can't tell you that make you pause yeah he said you'd be surprised just kind of like a prominent person and
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then all I could say was well I hope you have fun Sandy says Steven had become more secretive the last couple weeks but
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it never crossed her mind he might be talking about a myll the original rumor was that Steven was planning to go away
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with Buster Murdoch and his family that they were together romantically Liz frell is the writer and co-host of the
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murall murders podcast there's no evidence of that that we know of and 48 Hours found no evidence to support the
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rumors retired Highway Patrol lieutenant Thomas Moore says the mere mention of the myalls made it difficult to get help
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from local agencies we tried to hand that case File over to the Sheriff's Office and they physically would not
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take it from our hand the mot name was still very powerful very well connected in law enforcement and the Rumor
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suggested well the local cops aren't going to dig into it instead the case was handled so by the highway Patrol's
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multidisciplinary accident investigation team called mate which specializes in complex vehicle crashes to make team was
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from out of town and we wanted outside eyes involved in this the myall name appears dozens of
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times in mate's 2015 case File which we obtained through a freedom of information request in his audio notes
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Corporal Michael Duncan makes it clear he doesn't think Steven's death is a hit and run there is no body trauma other
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than to the Head area does not appear to be in my opinion struck by a vehicle another investigator Todd Proctor goes
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further typically you don't see the highway patrol working a murder and that's what this is he hints at a
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conflict of interest for the local sheriff's department there's a reason why Hampton County Sheriff's Department
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is not handling this and I'll leave it at that in this interview with Proctor local teen Taylor Dobson shares a
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detailed version of that story about several young men in a truck I heard that these two maybe three young men
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were in a vehicle they were riding down 601 saw the car on the side of the road I guess saw the boy walking um they
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turned back around then stuck something out the window he offers a name reluctantly he goes by Buster murder
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Dobson says he grew up with Buster kind of out of character to who I knew it was
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just strictly hear sa from all I know Proctor reassures him the mydal are already aware authorities want to speak
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with Buster they know that he's on our radar matter of fact I talked to one of their guys yesterday and and told him
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you know I'm I'm going to talk to Buster here soon you know and they said okay that's fine but according to the case
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File a call to Buster Mall in October 2015 was never returned and in December following a front page story in the
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Hampton County Guardian mate received a tip called in at the direction of Randy myrdle Buster's Uncle a man named Daryl
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Williams called a Hampton police officer to report the tip which involved two teens Sean Connelly and Patrick Wilson
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in a recorded phone call the officer relays to Corporal Duncan what Williams told him Daryl called me and he said
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Patrick come over here to the house he said he that Sean Connelly was was drunk and hit something he went back the
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next day to see what it was he had hit and he seen a lot of police out there Patrick was crying telling him and after
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he got finished telling the story he walked outside his house and threw up did he go into any detail about how it
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happened supposedly he had fixed his mirror wanted to mirror us up on the truck the side mirror story matched
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Steven's original death certificate for reasons that are unclear there is no record of Duncan or Proctor ever
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speaking to Connelly or Wilson Wilson had no comment to 48 Hours messages to the Hampton County Sheriff's Office
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Williams and Connelly have not been answered Sandy Smith says she asked Sean Connelly Point Blank if he killed Steven
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and he said he said no ma'am I did not I gave you my word I promise you I never killed your son do you believe him yeah
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if he lied to you if that turns out to be the case it won't be the first time I'm lied to but you know if you did it
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you need to pay in September 2016 fed up with what she calls the lack of an investigation
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Sandy began a letter writing campaign that included the FBI what did your letter say I was just letting them know
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that my son was murdered and there's no progress being done and I think it had something to do with the Murdo family
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and please help just please help me Sandy also told the FBI she believed someone was deliberately trying to
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derail the investigation did you ever get a response from the FBI I did and I had two agents come to my house she
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asked them to unlock Steven's phone and they did do you know if anyone actually was able to read Steven's text messages
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or see where he might have been based on cell phone evidence what I heard from the FBI agent there was a a lot of
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interesting information in the phone that needed to be looked at but she says that didn't prompt a local or state
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authorities to pursue the case further there's something in that phone that nobody wants out
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there by late 2016 the investigation into Steven Smith's death went cold what do you think it took for Stephen's case
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to finally get the attention it deserves that you wanted somebody else had to [Music]
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what information do you think was found on Steven's phone chat now on Facebook and
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X the murders of Paul and Maggie myall in June of 2021 caused a seismic shift in small town Hampton and gave Sandy
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Smith a Lifeline she desperately needed now it took this to get Steven's name back out there
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so somebody would start paying attention in a strange twist of fate while investigating the murders of Paula
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Maggie murall sled announced it had stumbled on a new lead in Steven's death and would be taking over the case they
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did not say what that evidence was it seems like all roads lead to the murd family around here yes is that
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coincidence or is there a reason for that around here it's natural it would be another two years
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while authorities focused on getting a conviction against Alec myall but Sandy now has a high octane legal team in her
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Corner after eight years of waiting for your turn Sandy Smith finally just had enough Ronnie and I are like arsonists
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we started to fire Ronnie RoR and Eric Bland are representing Sandy pro bono our sole goal was to
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rekindle the interest in Steven's death and they turned up the heat on sled in March of 2023 sled publicly acknowledged
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it was treating Steven's case as a homicide the same week Buster murall released a statement through his
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father's attorney saying quote these baseless rumors of my involvement with Steven and his death are false I
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unequivocally deny any involvement in his death and my heart goes out to the Smith family those words are now in
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cement I take him at his word that he had nothing all to do with Steven's death rather than old rumors Bland and
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RoR say they're focusing on a new investigation made possible by $130,000 in GoFundMe donations from
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Sandy supporters the resources were made available for us to do some private investigative work that's going to start
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with hiring a pathology team they were also able to have Steven's body exuded something Sandy had
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wanted for years years our primary function right now is to have a true independent set of eyes look at it and
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tell us once and for all what really happened to Steven Smith in April of 20123 Dr Michelle Dupri a former
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investigator and forensic pathologist who's performed more than 3,000 autopsies oversaw the examination of
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Steven's body the injuries can tell us so much about what happened and in this case they did I did Dupri says the
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autopsy confirmed Steven died from a single blow to his forehead severely fracturing his skull that's a big gash
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that's 7 and 1/2 in almost there would be another gash in this posterior area from hitting
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the pavement so hard literally split his skull and split his skull they were also able to put to rest
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some rumors including the one that Steven had been beaten with a baseball bat it wasn't a baseball bat no those
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type of injuries would cause something that we call pattern injuries and we don't see that here this is a linear
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fracture um as well as this is here just as important is what they found du PRI says is what they didn't find we didn't
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find fractures of any part of the body except for the head there was a little road rash which you would expect any
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signs of a struggle no any signs of a beating no any injuries below his head other than the road rash none whatsoever
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[Music] she says that eliminates the possibility Steven was hit by a car headon Dupri
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says the findings also refute early theories that Steven's body might have been staged were you able to determine
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whether Steven was struck and fell or he might have been struck and then placed there we don't believe that he was
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placed there we believe that whatever happened happened right there Dr Kenny kiny agrees you think he was killed
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right here right there a crime scene expert and star prosecution witness in the murall murder trial Kinsey worked
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with DUI to analyze Steven's case he says the evidence at the scene is clear that's a massive amount of blood and if
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he had that kind of injury somewhere else it wouldn't be that uniform due to their sensitive nature we
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created versions of the crime scene photos in which the blood and body are shown as Graphics the quantity of blood
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the direction of the flow in the road and then the direction of all the the blood on his person led me to the only
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conclusion Kinsey is convinced an object attached to a vehicle traveling at high
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speed caused the single fatal blow to Steven's head but whatever hit him was fast and it was large so a hit and run
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but an atypical hit and run yeah very atypical a hit and run with no vehicle debris at the scene it's a conclusion no
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one was expecting how confident are you that you know what happened to Steven Smith that night I'm as close to a
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degree of scientific certainty as I've ever felt what no one can say with certainty
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is whether Steven's death was accidental or not but still RoR points out he was left there to die someone left him in
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that condition in the roadway and that is a very serious felony Steven's body was found about 3
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miles from his car Kinsey tried to retrace his steps I wanted to walk every possible path that Mr Smith may have
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taken Steven's family has always insisted if Steven had car trouble he would have felt safer walking through
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the woods so where was Steven's car Steven's car was located if you look at this gate here it was not grown up then
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you could access that gate but in this area really close to the woods but to cut through the woods Stephen would have
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had to scale a fence that was 8 ft tall and from what I understand from interviewing NE s it's been there for
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well over a decade Kinsey theorizes Steven was walking along the road trying to flag someone down for help he is
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walking this direction in the in the lane facing traffic whatever was attached to the
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vehicle or hanging off of the vehicle whenever it struck Steven he went down in in this
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area somewhat on this line here the vehicle that struck Steven was coming toward him just like that vehicle
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in the photograph like this yes going that direction Kinsey says the evidence suggests the driver saw something in the
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road and changed lanes and sometime before it struck Steven I believe it changed into the oncoming
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Lane that's when he says an object from the passenger side struck stepen what kind of object could it be
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it could be anything it could be a ladder hanging off the back of a work truck it could be a extended side mirror
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the metal type that you see on some Farm vehicles or some larger vehicles that scenario matches up with the tip from
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2015 involving Patrick Wilson and Shan Connelly which Kinsey calls plausible that certainly would be possible that
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would be one of the places I would start sled has kept its investigation close to the best but bland and rter say
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a grand jury was impanel and is issuing subpoenas they're honing in on specific individuals and I think there's about
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five or less that sled believes has information regarding Steven's death he don't know who those
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individuals are in an interview on Fox Nation in August of 2023 Buster myall again denied the rumors of his
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involvement I never had anything to do with his murder and I never had anything to do with him on a physical level of of
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any regard he also provided an alibi the night Steven was killed I was at our Edisto beach house with your family with
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my mom and my brother sy's team says it's turned over all of its findings to sled but Kinsey
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says it's still going to take someone coming forward somebody knows oh they know yes ma'am
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do you think Steven's death was an accident or intentional see a timeline of the case at 48
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hours.com as a grand jury zeros in on potential suspects in Steven Smith's death the legal wrangling hasn't slowed
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down for Alec murall you've got local charges you got State charges the legal civil cases are going to go on for years
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on November 17 2023 I am guilty and yes sir Mall agreed to a plea deal encompassing all of the
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State financial charges he faced for defrauding and stealing Millions from clients and law partners he had
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previously pleaded guilty to 22 Federal conspiracy wire fraud and moneya laundering charges Alex prayed on the
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vulnerable whom he also thought would never figure out his schemes correct it's people that are at the worst times
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of their lives where you need a lawyer to be the best for you not the worst for you perhaps none more so than Elena and
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Hannah plyer who are now represented by Bland and RoR who were the flowers they were two young girls from
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Colombia they were just 12 and8 when they survived a deadly crash due to a faulty Tire they killed their mother and
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14-year-old brother in 2005 and became the youngest of the financial victims to whom myrdle admitted he lied and stole
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from when questioned at his murder trial what loss did they suffer who died uh their mother their mother did he only
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mentioned your mom yeah that bothered me that because you don't remember that a 14-year-old
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was killed in that wreck Alec he got a very good paycheck off of my brother's death both women are now mothers and
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Elena is a detective with the Lexington County Sheriff's Office since all of this has come out there's a lot of pain
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that's still there Alina was old enough to remember the details of the last road
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trip she and her sister would ever take with their mom and brother my brother and I had gotten into an argument I
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wanted to start sitting in the front seat we thought about it and fought about it and finally mom was like you
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know what Justin's going to ride on the way to Colombia and on the way back home Elena
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gets to ride up front and I was so happy Elena and Hannah who were still sitting
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in the back seat survived the crash so you must think about that all the time I do actually had a lot of guilt for
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several years that guilt is something she says she's learned to let go as she recounts
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her and her little sister's harrowing survival we hadn't been on the road too long pah was sleeping and I was
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listening to usher and I remember Mom saying Lany you awake and so I remember pulling my headphones down and said yeah
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Mom within seconds I heard this loud pop and then I immediately heard my mom scream I looked out the window and my
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Usher CD was spinning on a tree limb their mother Angela and brother Justin died instantly Elena realized she
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was trapped and couldn't move and had to send Hannah for help I said I need you to get out of the car and I need you to
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go to the top the hill to the interstate and you're only 12 I'm 12 right so many
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things could have went worse 8-year-old Hannah climbed up to the interstate there was an 18-wheeler and I
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was able to flag him down and I think by that point an ambulance came in and they
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had taken me to the hospital Elena waited alone until a fire rescue team arrived and cut her out of
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the wreckage she watched as they removed her mother mother and brother and so I watched them put them in a black body
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bag she was then airlifted to a hospital and would need numerous surgeries what was the moment like when you were able
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to see each other again after that I remember it I remember hugging her and thanking her for not dying for
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not leaving me and then from there I was just in the hospital bed with you you you couldn't keep us apart the sisters
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say they were passed around to live with family members we didn't have a bedroom
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just had each other just each other yeah we lived at a little plastic Bend when a family friend referred the
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plyers to Alec myall he promised to change all of that do you remember the first time you met Alec murdle yeah I
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remember when he walked in he seemed really arrogant like a bulldog just tall almost intimidating in a sense he told
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us they took your family from you and we're going to make this right going to pay to two young girls who had lost
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everything mdll seemed Larger than Life I always felt at peace when I got to talk to Alec people listened to him you
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could tell there was a lot of control there how did he earn your trust really with his words he was a
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smooth talker and he made you feel special but once the case settled the special treatment stopped he pretty much
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checked out he had explained that the case had settled we won big money well Lan's case settled for $4.7 million you
00:34:04
know Hannah for right at $3 million uh that money was then entrusted to Russell lefit lefit was the CEO of PA Meadow
00:34:13
State Bank and Hampton and a close friend of myall who'd handpicked lefit to manage the funds as conservator until
00:34:20
the girls turned 18 so these two very wealthy prominent men basically helped themselves to these
00:34:27
kids piggy bank any money they needed had to be approved by lefit and a judge even if it was a dollar we had to have a
00:34:36
receipt for it when you and Eric took on their case what did you discover Russell
00:34:41
was making loans to Alex Alex would be overdrawn 50,000 100,000 $300,000 in his personal account and he need a money to
00:34:51
cover those shorts RoR says that at myrdal's Direction lefit transferred nearly 1.5 million
00:34:58
from the pilers money to Alec murall and himself when it came time for these young ladies to turn 18 the money was
00:35:06
supposed to be there so Alex had to go out and steal new money from different clients and put that money back murd was
00:35:15
never charged for Hannah and Alina's case but lefit was convicted on federal charges for his
00:35:21
role but still there's that toll of how do you trust going forward people were put in a position of Trust on their
00:35:30
behalfs when they were just children and then to learn as an adult that the entire time they saw you as nothing more
00:35:37
than a checkbook while the plyers can begin to heal Sandy Smith still waits for her Day of
00:35:44
Reckoning all this sweeping drama there's answers and there's closure for everybody else but not for Sandy Smith
00:35:52
it's time to put the spotlight on Steven Smith [Music] months after his Blockbuster trial Alex
00:36:08
murd verdict guilty convicted double murderer Alec murall and the crime of the century are still Hampton's biggest
00:36:16
attractions almost every day somebody's coming by taking a picture of the law firm or riding out to Mosel taking
00:36:22
pictures they just can't get enough The myall Craze was on full display at an auction for the family's
00:36:30
personal items from their Moselle property the infamous leather couch set where Alec testified he took a cat nap
00:36:37
while his wife and son were murdered sold for $30,000 and Maggie's dog Bubba who
00:36:44
helped prosecutors prove Alec was actually at the crime scene has become a local folk hero at that rambunctious
00:36:51
yellow lab hadn't have been doing what labs like to do Chase Birds we might not have solve this case and we might not
00:36:58
have gotten a conviction come Bubba Bubba Alex voice calling Bubba was caught in the background of phone video
00:37:06
Paul took minutes before he was killed Bubba and the other dogs at the kennels they were witnesses to a very
00:37:15
horrific event Bubba now lives a quiet life with the mall's housekeeper meanwhile Alec mdll is serving two life
00:37:23
terms in a Maximum Security Prison do you think Alec murall still thinks he can try to play the system 100% now
00:37:33
Mall's attorneys are hoping their latest motion will be a get out of jail free card we're focused on getting him a new
00:37:40
trial that's in September 2023 dick harlean and Jim Griffin announced their motion for a new trial based on
00:37:48
allegations of jury tampering by the colon County Clerk of Court Becky Hill what we had filed today supported by
00:37:55
sworn testimony of jurors is that the clerk of court had improper private Communications with the jurors the state
00:38:03
versus Richard Alexander Murdoch they argued that Hill violated mural's right to a fair trial when she allegedly told
00:38:11
jurors not to be fooled by his testimony and to watch his body language as Alec was about to take the stand I'm Alec
00:38:19
murck in a signed affidavit Hill denies all of the defense allegations and voluntary statements from a majority of
00:38:27
the jury support Hill's account roran Bland say even a new trial can save Alec murall if the motor convictions
00:38:37
overturned then you have the financial crimes so yes there's a theoretical Universe in which Alex murd could see
00:38:45
the sun again but it's theoretical only it's like rearranging the the deck chairs on the Titanic it's f
00:38:57
if you would a Rite a made for TV Southern legal drama you you couldn't have done a better job than this dit
00:39:04
writes about it in his book The Fall of the House of murall which he ends with Steven Smith it's kind of interesting
00:39:12
and tragic that the oldest story remains unsolved solving his murder I think this
00:39:20
will be the end of this sweeping Saga as sled continues its investigation of the Smith case behind closed doors
00:39:29
what investigators found after the murall murders Remains the subject of intense
00:39:35
speculation do you have any idea what the new evidence that may be presented to the grand jury is no uh I do know
00:39:44
that sled has Steven's phone I know that they have Steven's tablet could Steven's
00:39:51
phone reveal the identity of the prominent person with whom he told Sandy he'd planned to go deep SE
00:39:58
fishing that'll be interesting what sled has found out and what the grand jury is
00:40:02
going to determine whether the person that he was going to go away with deep sea fishing um had anything to do with
00:40:10
his death or his knowledge of his death how has this fight for justice been oh it has been a long road but it's
00:40:20
worth it Sandy is Keeping the Faith and keeping Steven's memory alive she recently EST established a college
00:40:28
scholarship in his name we are starting this scholarship fund so other children won't have it as hard as Steven did and
00:40:37
she's offering a $30,000 reward for information leading to an arrest and now it's your turn that if you know
00:40:46
something that you say something what do you miss most about Stephen just I miss everything about
00:40:54
him what do you think stepen would think of your fight where we are today in his
00:41:02
case he said oh mama you would do that for me yep yep I would over and over [Music]
00:41:31
CBS next Saturday 48 Hours brings you backtack episodes all summer long next week killer creatures this man was
00:41:40
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00:41:52
[Music] this is postmortem I'm your host anarie green if you're a fan of 48 hours you
00:42:06
have definitely heard about the murdah The prominent wealthy family from Hampton County South Carolina in 2023
00:42:14
Alex Murda was found guilty of murdering his wife Maggie and his younger son Paul
00:42:20
but attention to those murders also ignited a new investigation into the 2015 mysterious death of Steven Smith a
00:42:29
19-year-old whose death was rumored to be connected to the muros so I am joined today by CBS News National correspondent
00:42:37
Nikki batist and producer gyen kesan Mendes to discuss their episode Steven Smith a death in Murdoch country which
00:42:46
originally aired November 25th 2023 thank you so much for joining us so good to be here anarie thanks for having us
00:42:53
anarie let's listen to a recap of the episode when Steven Smith was found dead on a country road on July 8th 2015 his
00:43:01
mother Sandy was convinced it was no accident do you believe Steven was murdered I do the medical examiner ruled
00:43:09
it a hit and run but retired South Carolina Highway Patrol lieutenant Thomas Moore says the scene told a
00:43:16
different story did you see any signs of a hit and run no ma'am none any type of
00:43:21
debris any kind of glass car parts Steven's car was 3 miles away I thought it was staged like his body was staged
00:43:31
in the roadway it looked like somebody had hit him in the head with some kind of object early on rumors began to swirl
00:43:37
that the mylls Were Somehow involved the myll name comes up dozens of times in the case File by late 2016 the case went
00:43:45
cold all I want is peace and knowing what happened to my son in June of 2021 the murders of Paul and Maggie myall
00:43:53
reignited interest in Steven Smith's case somehow some way in the Mur murder investigation a new thread was opened up
00:44:01
into Steven Smith attorneys Ronnie RoR and Eric Bland are now helping Sandy Smith find answers we are aware of no
00:44:09
evidence today that would suggest that any murall played any role in Steven Smith's death our primary function right
00:44:16
now is to have that body exhumed have a true independent set of eyes look at it and tell us once and for all what really
00:44:22
happened to step Smith they brought on forensic pathologist Dr Michelle Dupri who says Steven died from a single blow
00:44:29
to his forehead literally split his skull and split his skull and oddly there were no injuries to his body to
00:44:36
indicate he'd been hit headon by a vehicle forensic crime scene expert Dr Kenny Kinsey was also hired Steven was
00:44:44
somewhat right here both experts believe Steven died on the spot neither thinks the scene was staged there was a
00:44:52
significant amount of blood at the scene too much for him to have been killed someplace else and then transported
00:44:58
there after examining all the evidence they reached a surprising conclusion how confident are you that you know what
00:45:05
happened to Stephen Smith that night I'm as close to a degree of scientific certainty as I've ever
00:45:12
felt what happened to step Smith is still under investigation so we do want to preface that during this postmortem
00:45:20
we're going to be discussing the theories that investigators lawyers family members have about what could
00:45:26
have happened happened to Steven Nikki guyan what is known about Steven Smith's relationship to the murd family or is it
00:45:34
all simply rumors and and hearsay emry that's a really good question there are very few facts that we know but I can
00:45:42
tell you in many conversations with Sandy Smith Stephen Smith's mother she has told us that stevenh and Buster were
00:45:50
classmates in school Sandy also told us that Alec mdal actually coached a baseball team Stephen was on when he was
00:45:59
a little bit younger but really for the most part this case as has the murdog case has really been driven by rumors
00:46:07
circulating connecting Buster and Stephen yeah go Steven and his sister were actually Trainers for the high
00:46:16
school football team of which Buster was a member and Stephen also tutored Buster
00:46:22
reportedly um in in some of his school subjects Stephen was a really good student so um you know those were all
00:46:30
sort of connections that they had you also spoke to a podcaster Liz frell I think she's been on the murdog case
00:46:38
almost from the beginning I mean Nikki you've been on from the beginning but I she has really sort of delve deep into
00:46:44
it before I think it even became kind of a national um story that's a really good
00:46:49
point because Liz farell was actually on the Steven Smith case before the murdog
00:46:52
case became the murdog case that we know about the double murder so I want to play a little bit of her sound from the
00:46:58
episode the original rumor was that Steven was planning to go away with Buster Murdoch and his family that they
00:47:04
were together romantically Liz frell is the writer and co-host of the murd murders podcast there's no evidence of
00:47:11
that that we know of and 48 Hours found no evidence to support the rumors Buster
00:47:16
murall released a statement through his father's attorney saying quote these baseless rumors of my involvement with
00:47:22
Steven and his death are false I unequivocally deny any involvement in his death and my heart goes out to the
00:47:29
Smith family those words are now in submit I take him at his word that he had nothing at all to do with Steven's
00:47:36
death now your team made numerous requests for an interview with Buster murd but he declined yes Buster myall
00:47:43
eventually did do a television interview on Fox Nation in it he said quote I never had anything to do with his murder
00:47:51
and I never had anything to do with him on a physical level of any regard and he
00:47:56
is is of course they're speaking about Steph Smith Amory in your reporting though for the broadcast what did the
00:48:02
people that you spoke to think about Steven's possible connection to the muros this is interesting I've worked on
00:48:09
many cases many criminal cases as has guyen and you and I can tell you I cannot remember a single case where it
00:48:17
was so difficult to get anyone to talk to us on camera about any of the mylls and because Steven's name was connected
00:48:27
to them at least by the rumor mill they wouldn't talk about Steven Smith either there definitely um was a lot of
00:48:35
curiosity around the case when we were filming on the road where Steven's body was found you know a couple driving by
00:48:42
stopped and wanted to know what we were doing wherever we were people whether or
00:48:48
not it was grounded in you know fact had a lot of opinions about what had happened and they spoke very
00:48:54
authoritatively about it but they didn't necessarily want to share those things and you know they weren't really things
00:49:00
that we could substantiate or report what's interesting is people had a lot to say off camera I remember being in a
00:49:08
restaurant and two women were talking about what they thought about Steven and Buster and what the connection might be
00:49:13
so people had a lot to say but no one wanted to talk about it on camera so much so that I had never experienced
00:49:18
anything like it before what were they afraid of did they talk about that some outright said they were afraid of the
00:49:23
mdll and the power that they had and if they said anything that might have upset
00:49:27
the myall in any way that somehow they'd be retaliated against even if they didn't know the myrdle I mean the sort
00:49:33
of power that the myd family had over this part of low country in South Carolina is hard to explain almost
00:49:41
pretty difficult to comprehend I think Guan and I have gotten a sense of it but they had a lot of money they had a lot
00:49:45
of power and they had a lot of influence not just recently but for a century and
00:49:49
I want to add to give context Amry and I think this really puts in perspective the power that they had a mdll has been
00:49:56
solic in the area for nearly 100 years that's essentially like the lead prosecutor for nearly a century in the
00:50:03
courtroom where Alec murd stood trial hung a picture of his great-grandfather who was once the solicitor which the
00:50:09
judge ordered be removed before his trial began to try not to sway the jury so that is the kind of power and
00:50:16
influence historically that we're talking about yeah um the evidence that actually reignited this case hasn't
00:50:23
actually been made public by sled sled is the South Carolina law enforcement division uh Nikki guyen what do we know
00:50:30
then what we know is for years following Steven's death his mother Sandy Smith she really wanted a second opinion his
00:50:38
death was initially ruled a hit and run and she just never bought that and since
00:50:44
the trial and conviction of Alec murof for the murders of his wife and son Paul and Maggie questions began circulating
00:50:51
around the death of Steven Smith while investigating those murders of Paul Maggie sled announced they found a new
00:50:59
lead into Steven's death they have never said yet what that evidence was and I I
00:51:04
will add that you know Sandy really didn't believe her son's death was accidental but it's important to point
00:51:12
out that even early on you know the cause of death was listed as uh blunt force trauma you know caused by a hidden
00:51:21
run but the manner of death which is whether or not it was an accident or murder that was left undetermined and
00:51:29
you know Sandy Sandy believed that there was Foul Play she believed her son was murdered and whoever did this should be
00:51:36
held responsible I got to say thank goodness for mothers um they push for further investigation they basically
00:51:43
become you know investigators themselves until they get to the bottom of of these
00:51:49
cases and this is a perfect example of that I was just going to add Sandy Smith really is remarkable because she is
00:51:56
single mom she doesn't have a lot of mean she'll be the first to tell you that and she fought powerful people for
00:52:02
a really long time and I don't think her son's case would have had a second look
00:52:07
I'm sure if it hadn't been for her and I think people might be wondering well why
00:52:12
would anyone want to hurt Stephen Smith and if you ask Sandy Smith that question
00:52:17
which I did you know she thought perhaps maybe it was because her son was gay and
00:52:22
we're talking about South Carolina Low Country which most people tell you there is probably relatively
00:52:27
conservative and there was also Steven's cell phone which is now also a sled we don't know what evidence was found but
00:52:35
Sandy told us that about a week before Steven died Steven was getting a a lot of texts and that Steven had told her
00:52:42
about going away with someone to Key West for a deep sea fishing triph in fact let's listen to an
00:52:51
interview that you did with Sandy Smith let's play some sound do you know if anyone actually was able to read
00:52:57
Stephen's text messages or see where he might have been based on cell phone evidence what I heard from the FBI agent
00:53:04
there was a a lot of interesting information in the phone that needed to be looked at but she says that didn't
00:53:11
prompt a local or state authorities to pursue the case further there's something in that phone that nobody
00:53:19
wants out there we should note that we most likely will not know what the New Evidence LED
00:53:26
has even if an arrest is made likely we'll learn what this evidence is if and when we do if the case is ever brought
00:53:33
to trial why is that you know in this case we got access to the original case File from 2015 but that's really the
00:53:41
only place where we even see how this investigation was conducted you know it seemed like at least according to what
00:53:49
was in the report potential interviews that were not followed up on or people that they never got a hold of and so I
00:53:57
think sled has really tried to keep everything very very close to the vest there's been so much public conversation
00:54:04
and opinion and rumor around this case that they they're really trying to you know keep it really tightly sealed this
00:54:12
must be so incredibly frustrating for Sandy though so frustrating for her but I think as we sit here and discuss this
00:54:19
you know she has perhaps more hope than she's ever had that she might just might
00:54:25
get some answers that's all she wants his answers and Justice though Justice is a tricky word when you've lost a
00:54:30
child you know but she at least wants someone to be held responsible you spoke to Dr Michelle dpri the pathologist who
00:54:36
oversaw the latest autopsy on Steven's remains in April of 2023 with their new findings confirm s suspicions of what
00:54:43
really happened to her son we'll talk about the new report the crime scene and what's next in the investigation into
00:54:50
Steven Smith's death when we get back welcome back Steven's cause of death was actually initially thought to be from a
00:55:07
gunshot wound at the scene of the crime but then that was changed to a hit and run by the medical examiner so here's a
00:55:14
clip from retired South Carolina Highway Patrol lieutenant Thomas Moore about his
00:55:18
observations from the crime scene I was told that the medical examiner made that
00:55:23
rule and when I reached out to her it became a a little bit heated give me an answer medically that would lead you to
00:55:31
believe he was hit by a car there was no medical reason did you see any signs of
00:55:36
a hit and run no ma'am none any type of debris any kind of glass car parts piece
00:55:42
of plastic anything that looks like it may be related to a vehicle it is such a confounding case something does not add
00:55:50
up Stephen Smith's Shoes were Loosely tied when his body was found they were still on his feet one thing that has
00:55:57
struck several experts I've talked to in covering Steven's case you just wouldn't
00:56:03
see that in a true hit and run because it just takes such little Force such little speed to knock someone's shoes
00:56:09
off Lieutenant Moore said you would expect to find the clothes shredded you know you would expect to find you know
00:56:16
and he's not a pathologist obviously but injuries in the legs where you would be
00:56:21
hit by a car and so um you know and he really felt that it looked staged because Steven's body was also found
00:56:30
three miles from where his car was found uh with the gas cap hanging open so in his experience covering car crashes and
00:56:39
hidden runs that was something he had not seen so the whole thing looked suspicious to him it looked staged
00:56:47
because this was being investigated as a hit and run it was under the highway patrols jurisdiction not the Hampton
00:56:53
County Sheriff's office or sled what kind of imp imp did that have on the case Lieutenant Moore with the highway
00:57:00
patrol said he really felt like this case was pwned off on that he believes the murall name was a deter and delving
00:57:07
into the case and getting help from local authorities Tommy Moore said usually you would work together with the
00:57:14
sheriff's department because it is a small community and so they would typically get help and in this case he
00:57:20
said we we physically tried to give them that case File and and they wouldn't take it from us and so to add to that on
00:57:25
how the investigation was handled since Steven's death was ruled a hit and run initially unfortunately according to the
00:57:32
highway patrol unit a lot of the evidence initially collected has been lost because of how Steven's death was
00:57:38
ruled initially which now obviously would be critical so we talked about this already but there's an important
00:57:45
person in the community who's sort of a through line through this broadcast and of course it's Stephen Smith's mother
00:57:50
these mothers are just absolute Heroes we heard from so many viewers and listeners who were really moved by Sandy
00:57:57
can you talk to me about just what it was like to interview her she is in pain but she is steadfast in her goal to
00:58:08
get Justice for her son we sat down and talked on camera for a couple hours probably collectively and guyan and I
00:58:15
spent many hours talking to her on the phone and I know I said this to Sandy that I was just so struck by her
00:58:21
strength you know we're the three of us were moms she's a mom and you know you know there is nothing worse than losing
00:58:27
a child I can't imagine and yet she for at least 8 years has fought for justice she didn't have the means to hire a big
00:58:34
powerful lawyer and and she decided to create a GoFundMe page to gather donations and it was with the help of
00:58:40
those donations and I think at one point it got up to Guyana remind me at least over 80,000
00:58:47
$130,000 wow so that money allowed her to do this new investigation and exume her son's body and see once in for all
00:58:56
what may have happened to him you know and and not just that I mean sany had written a letter to the FBI trying to
00:59:01
get the cell phone um looked at she just was vocal for years trying to get anyone
00:59:08
to look at her son's death what has that done to her making that pain your purpose in life did she talk any about
00:59:15
that at all when Nikki asked Sandy about her resilience um Sandy kind of said you
00:59:21
know she she didn't know until she was put in this position how much of a fighter she is she feels like she has
00:59:29
been the and she has in essence been the lead investigator in her son's case but
00:59:35
um you know as far as being a grieving mother she said there's time for that I can grieve later first I got to I have
00:59:43
to see this through and so she's she's amazing I mean she is no shrinking violet I mean she's tough and she says
00:59:51
it like it is and she's really not afraid of um what anyone one thinks so she's she's really uh an incredible
00:59:59
Force yeah I'm getting the chills guyan just hearing you recount some of what she said and then I remembered as you
01:00:07
were talking so Amry when we do our 48 hours we go on CBS mornings the Friday before it airs to
01:00:14
talk about the hour and I had text Sandy the night before I went on to talk about
01:00:19
this case airing and I said is there anything you'd like me to say she said I just want to thank everyone who
01:00:25
supported me and fight for my son and I think that was her saying you know well she may have a small support system at
01:00:34
home she has a massive support system and all of the people that have reached out um about Steven's case donated to
01:00:41
the GoFundMe and and just taking an interest um so that it gets the attention it deserves yeah and it's in
01:00:49
fact a because of sy's diligence determination eventually it led to Steven being exhumed which is not an
01:00:56
easy thing for loved ones to have to witness this happens nearly 8 years after Steven Smith's death a new autopsy
01:01:02
was performed and revealed that he died from a single blow to his forehead severely fracturing his skull I want to
01:01:10
play a clip of what Dr Dupri says they didn't find during the autopsy we didn't find fractures of any part of the body
01:01:19
except for the head there was a little road rash which you would expect any signs of a struggle no any signs of a
01:01:25
beating no any injuries below his head other than the road rash none whatsoever she says that eliminates the
01:01:37
possibility Steven was hit by a car headon Dupri says the findings also refute early theories that Steven's body
01:01:44
might have been staged were you able to determine whether Steven was struck and fell or he might have been struck and
01:01:51
then placed there we don't believe that he was placed there we believe that whatever happen happened happened right
01:01:57
there Dr ji rules out some of the initial theories that suggested Steven's death wasn't an accident Nikki guyen do
01:02:05
you know how Sandy Smith reacted to these findings she was very careful in discussing um the investigation I I
01:02:13
think she's also very cognizant of the fact that you know she doesn't want to hurt the progress that sled is making
01:02:19
but they've shared their findings with sled however Sandy did say you know that she would be accepting I mean Nikki
01:02:26
asked her various different scenarios of you know what if they come back and say
01:02:32
it was an accident what if you know this particular individual did it and she says she would accept it as long as she
01:02:39
felt like it was a thorough investigation but in her heart she she feels her son was murdered yeah well I
01:02:47
think you know for many people you look at the crime scene and you go it something just doesn't make sense here
01:02:52
it doesn't make sense uh crime scene expert Dr Kenny Kinsey examined Steven's case with Dr Dupri and he was also a
01:02:59
star witness for the prosecution in the Alex murau trial what did the crime scene reveal so we went with uh Dr
01:03:08
Kinsey to the crime scene and we looked at photos from the crime scene he actually got on the ground in the very
01:03:14
spot where Steven was found on the road to explain to us what he thought Dr Kinsey said Steven was most likely
01:03:22
killed in the spot his body was found because of the massive amount of blood found next to Steven's body you see a
01:03:29
pool of blood in the photos Dr Kinsey's exact words to me were that he believes that this was an atypical hdden run
01:03:38
meaning he doesn't believe that a car struck Stephen he believes that a car was driving and something was sticking
01:03:47
out and that that object struck Steven and that's what the killed him that was the Fatal blow and that and doctor
01:03:55
Kinsey's theory he says would explain why there aren't other marks on his body why there weren weren't broken bones the
01:04:03
big mystery at the center of this case though is whether or not this was an accident or whether it was intentional
01:04:11
do you know will we ever find out the answer to that question accident or deliberate I think that's sort of the
01:04:19
million-dollar question um and you know Dr Dupri and Dr Kinsey um who shared their findings with us have answered the
01:04:28
question of how stepen died but they can't really answer the why or the who apparently they do have some names
01:04:38
according to sy's attorney they had a handful of people that they were looking at subpoenas and warrants were being
01:04:45
issued um you know to gather more information by the investigative Grant jury that was impanel but it's been so
01:04:53
many years and because of the fact that you know maybe critical evidence wasn't gathered at the time maybe certain
01:05:01
things weren't followed up on that should have been they they are counting on someone to come forward and to
01:05:08
finally you know admit what they know whether they were involved or if they have firsthand knowledge of um someone
01:05:15
who was involved so then does that mean at least for now this case is at a standstill or can we expect anything
01:05:22
more in the investigation in the coming months we were told by multiple people on the record including sy's lawyers
01:05:28
that a grand jury had been impanel over this summer so sy's hope in the hope of family of stepen Smith and the new
01:05:37
lawyers working with Sandy is that there might be an arrest soon and I think that
01:05:41
Sandy believes there will be an arrest but we just don't know what will happen next or if and when what a excruciating
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weight for her and everyone else who loved um Stephen whatever happens uh I know you guys will be following this
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case I will be following this case we're going to keep our eyes our ears open uh
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for what comes next uh Nikki guyen thank you so much for joining us thanks Amry thank you so much it was a
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