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Jurors from Howard Pilmar’s murder trial had difficulty reaching verdict

October 27, 2019 / 01:58

This episode discusses the verdicts in a murder case involving Roz and Evan, examining the jury's deliberation process and the evidence presented.

The conversation highlights the challenges faced by the jury, with members divided on Roz's guilt. Some believed her involvement was crucial, while others felt there was not enough evidence to convict her.

Regarding Evan, the jury debated his role in the crime, noting that his blood was found at the scene. The discussion points out the commonality of cuts in the culinary industry, questioning the plausibility of his blood being there without a logical explanation.

The episode reflects on the emotional toll of the verdicts, acknowledging the loss experienced by both families involved in the case. The jury ultimately found both Roz and Evan guilty.

TLDR

The episode covers the jury's verdicts in a murder case involving Roz and Evan, highlighting evidence and emotional impacts.

Episode

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I didn't think it was gonna take us as long as I did I didn't either and I never thought that we wouldn't reach a
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verdict but it was just a matter of how long it would take we probably spent an hour just going back and forth as a
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group before finally we said okay let's vote and we did anonymous votes around the room Roz was the one that was the
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hardest because half the room thought she was guilty and half the room didn't with Evan I want to say it was like
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six-six guilty three not guilty three not sure a lot of the conversation boiled down to what was his role in the
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crime and so a lot of people believe if you felt that he was guilty then she had
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to be guilty as well you couldn't put her there and she didn't have defense wounds she
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was creating the environment for the crime to happen whether or not she was the assailant or not
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so did you perform an impression of Evan the evidence we had was he was at the scene of the crime or his blood was
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there and there was no possible logical plausible reason for his blood to have gone there outside of the murder it
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wasn't uncommon for people in the food industry to have cuts on their hand and he clearly was in the food industry if
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it kept repeating like he works in the culinary industry so it's quite common that people got cuts in their hand so
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what happened yeah it was it was hilarious to me it was insulting frankly if someone works in the culinary
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industry and they cut their hand the first thing you do you put a bandaid on it the logic that he had cut his hand
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walked in a space and then the blood fell onto the wall it's not positive so the first verdict you announced was
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Roz's verdict and that was what guilty and the second was Evans verdict and that was guilty the entire scenario was
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horrible there's no good either way but families lost a son my son's lost a mother and
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father it was tough

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    Most heartbreaking
  • 70
    Most emotional
  • 65
    Most intense
  • 60
    Most dramatic

Episode Highlights

  • The Verdicts
    Roz and Evan were both found guilty, leading to a devastating outcome for families.
    “There's no good either way.”
    @ 01m 44s
    October 27, 2019

Episode Quotes

  • The entire scenario was horrible.
    Jurors from Howard Pilmar’s murder trial had difficulty reaching verdict
  • Families lost a son; my son's lost a mother and father.
    Jurors from Howard Pilmar’s murder trial had difficulty reaching verdict

Key Moments

  • Group Voting00:13
  • Crime Evidence00:57
  • Verdict Discussion01:49
  • Emotional Toll01:52