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a warning to listeners this episode contains graphic depictions of [Music] violence Chrisley was going to be out of
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the military soon he was just days away from being honorably discharged while the cloud of Suspicion for Aaron
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Corwin's disappearance hung over him no charges had been filed against [Music] him the Le had planned their moved back
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to Alaska where Chris was from but before they left they won't have a home because they're out of their
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Barracks that's White Rock horse rescue owner Isabelle megley Chris and Isabelle had spent a
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lot of time together at the ranch so they had become friends at this point when Chris was in a jam he asked
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Isabelle if his family could stay at the ranch while they plan their move to Alaska we made this agreement I said
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well you can stay at the bunk house until you leave 7 Days how in innocent was that but that's not how it turned
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out once Aaron Corwin went missing the police had started to suspect that Chris might be connected but they still hadn't
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found her and all the evidence against Chris was circumstantial or hearsay they needed something
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firm the police were here detectives were here he had his uh U-Haul here and they were going they wanted to go
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through this U-Haul uh they had them handcuffed to the chairs over at the house where they
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did this they checked my house uh they did not think I was involved but my vehicles were involved because chrisly
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had used them the police didn't find a literal or figurative Smoking Gun in Chris's
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belongings but they knew a lot about him that he had been having an affair with Aaron an affair that continued in secret
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even after they were exposed before Aaron disappeared she'd been texting her friend Jessica or as
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she called her Jesse about her relationship with Chris but there was one message that caught the eye of the
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police a text that gave them a clue on where they'd find Aaron this is NCIS agent sha Nash who
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saw the text this text message referred to a trip that Aaron and Christopher Lee had
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made uh the day before she went [Music] missing all Chris told Aaron was that this trip was going to take a couple of
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hours and Aaron thought this meant she was in for some big romantic gesture Aaron had text Jessica laugh out
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loud I seriously don't know why he would drag to a very special place to be a dumb
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surprise Jessica had text back to Aaron uh some Emojis with a ring and a diamond
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and then uh kiss symbols I would assume that would be an engagement ring the detectives knew the trip would
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likely have been out to the move desert surrounding Joshua Tree but they didn't know which specific
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part the search and rescue teams were beginning to look for Aaron and learning where she could have gone with Chris
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could be the key to find her I'm CBS News correspondent Natalie Morales this is 48 Hours
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NCIS episode 4 the perfect [Music] mine Aaron's car was found on July 1st 2014 a few days after after she went
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missing the car was parked just a few miles outside the 29 Palms military base with nothing missing or really any sign
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of disturbance there was however another pair of tire tracks when San berino County Sheriff's
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Department located Aaron Coran's car the tire Impressions surrounding the car did
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not match Aaron's car this is NCIS special agent Clifton Randolph J Jun who worked with the sheriff's department and
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local detectives on Aaron Corwin's case special agent Randolph says that it looked like Aron drove out to the spot
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to meet up with someone in a second car then went out to the desert it seemed that someone drove out
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to that location and she got out of the car got in to this other vehicle and went somewhere else uh with those tracks
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ending at the black asphalt road out [Music] there investigators believed that the
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tracks were left by a Jeep and it just so happens Chris Lee drove a Jeep this was one of the reasons that
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the San Bernardino sheriff's department initially brought him in for questioning
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three days after Aaron's disappearance you already heard some of what he said his issues with memory loss challenges
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adjusting to life after deployment and how he met Aaron in video of the interogation Chris
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sat down under the dim hum of fluorescent lights in a t-shirt shorts and flipflops the detective sat across
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from him at a small table and asked about his plans for the future I think we're going to live with her brother cuz
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we got our two horses that we're shipping up there and then I'm going use my GI Bill to try to get a chemical
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engineering Dee Chris told told the detective that in the coming weeks his family would be driving cross country to
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Alaska where he grew up to start a new life yeah it's it's scary like I mean but and I'm ready for a change my
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wife she's definitely ready to get this interview was a very important opportunity for the detectives on
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Aaron's case Chris wasn't named a suspect at this point he was invited in to answer a few simple questions about
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Aaron the detectives had an opportunity to talk to Chris without a lawyer and to
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get his story on the record they also could use information to their advantage Chris did not know what the detectives
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knew that he'd been having an affair with Aaron her pregnancy and the possible proposal and that the two had
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planned a mysterious trip out to the Mojave Desert just before Aaron vanished then they started to talk more
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about Chris and Aaron's relationship Chris admitted that he and Aaron became an emotional support system
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for each other and that the relationship turned physical he also talked about his
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wife Nicole when she found out about the affair and the effect it had on their marriage and during the time that you
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were texting Aaron how was your relationship call um it was under a lot of duress a
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lot of strain like she kept trying to like talk about things and I just kept shutting her out
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our relationship was under a lot of strain Chris said she kept trying to talk about things and I just kept
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shutting her out he called Aaron his make believe wife but while recounting their Affair Chris also seemed to
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downplay it they only kissed a few times Chris said that's where things stopped according to him that was a reckoning
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point he broke things off with Aaron after after they got caught and then that was the end of it okay and that was
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kind of like my Reckoning point where I realized you know I was messed up and I needed to ask for
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help now the detectives tried to get more details they wanted to get Chris to describe what he was doing in the days
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leading up to Aaron's disappearance Chris did not know that the investigators had found Aaron's car and
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that they believed he might have been out in the desert with her the detective asked Chris when was the last time he
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saw Aaron okay and then you saw her Wednesday of last week I think so I'm not 100% sure I just
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notic Wednesday that was 3 days before Aaron went missing but then Chris second guessed himself I'm not 100% sure Chris
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said she and John had come out of the house but I would usually try to avoid them when detectives asked for more
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specifics Chris's memory got hazy once again um so when you would you see their cars there on the weekend um sometimes
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um I really don't keep track of other things and so like I said unless like she FES something like wrong or
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different I don't really remember um sometimes I don't keep track of things I don't really remember he
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said Chris referenced memory problems several times throughout the interview sometimes blaming shell shock or
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PTSD then the detective started asking Chris about the desert while they talked volunteers were searching the desert for
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any evidence of Aaron so the detective wanted Chris to piece together his whereabouts where did he go around the
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time Aaron went missing maybe if he told them about his trips out to the desert he'd give up a piece of information that
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might help them find Aaron the detective asked about Saturday June 28th the day Aaron went missing okay I went to bed at
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midnight what time did you wake up Saturday 6 um I wasun actually that morning Chris said
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he woke up that morning and went coyote hunting alone and then he guided the the
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police along the Route he took so I went by myself and then I went down Adobe took a left
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on Chris's story had morphed and changed several times over the hours he spent in
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that interrogation room but it was couched in hazy Recollections and other memory problems Chris
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said then Chris's story took a wild turn it's at this moment as he described one
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wandering around the desert coyote hunting that Chris said he heard gunfire and then I got kind of lost and
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at one point in time I'm not sure the time of the day check but uh I'm not sure if the individual shot at me or if
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he was just like Recreation shooting but there was an individual Chris said that
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he heard four booms claiming that he saw someone out there with a hand gun turn like
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this and I heard four shots as I was coming back down the bridge line I got out of there as fast as I could Chris
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said he said he couldn't tell if they were intentionally shooting at him or not while Chris told this story he gave
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detailed descriptions of where he went Chris talked the detective through his hiking trails that carve through the
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mountains and dunes in the desert he even marked up a map that the interrogators brought in to show them
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where he went just put like an ask where your house is at okay and then so you go out that way to
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the 62 to a gold crown did you make any other stops prior whether he knew it or not Chris gave investigators tons of
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details to work with evidence that could help the search and rescue efforts for Aaron that were continuing in the desert
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Chris could be telling the police which parts of the vast desert to focus on the Mojave Desert stretched on for
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thousands of miles and dotted through it were the landmarks of a literal Golden Age the hundreds of abandoned Min shafts
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that filled the Horizon the desert is at the edge of two plates of the Earth's crust that
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Collision meant that this land was rich with minerals ore for Iron and Steel but
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most importantly gold so during the Gold Rush of the mid 1800s people started coming from around the world to scour
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this l for wealth more kept coming and making money through World Wars 1 and two before the resources started to dry
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up the legacy of that time were the abandoned Shacks Mills Railways and mine shafts carved out of the earth that dot
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this Sandy landscape this is where the investigators were looking for Aaron Corwin she'd been missing long enough
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that the teams had to prepare prepare themselves for the possibility they were looking for her body the first aerial
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searches via helicopter identified over 100 abandoned mine shafts that were big enough to hide a corpse the task ahead
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of the search and rescue teams would be daunting so they Enlisted the help of an
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expert a local Man by the name of Doug Billings Doug Billings who we called the Mind Whisperer experts like
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Doug Billings he's also been called The Cave Whisperer he knows all about every single mine that is out in the Mojave
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Desert by day Doug Billings is a softspoken owner of his family's hardware store in his free time though
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he was an experienced and Savvy cave diver the 48 Hours team went out with Doug to the desert where he showed them
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the land that he knew like the back of his hand as I stand here right and now I'm looking at a beautiful turquoise
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rock and I'm looking at another white crystal rock and I'm looking at the skyline and these black Iron mountains
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and thinking about you know Prospectors who a hundred years ago were with a pick
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and shovel trying to make a living out here there's nature there's history you know there's Wildlife out here you see
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it is beautiful it's God's country Doug doesn't like to call himself an expert but his connection to
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this terrain runs deep his grandparents had a homestead here as he grew up Doug started exploring the caves dotting the
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very stretch of land where Aaron Corwin went missing many of the M chefs that the
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search and rescue teams were looking at Doug had already been in and spent a decade or more going through every
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single one of them reading journals about them mapping them taking inventories of what you could find in
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them when Aaron went missing the search and rescue teams came to Doug to get his
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advice on where to start looking and he ended up joining them the teams went out
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into the desert in Red Hats and yellow jackets and traveled in small groups of two or three temperatures would swell
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above 100° in the Sun so their days had to start Before Dawn at first the search
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was being largely done by volunteers who had to rig safety equipment lights and cameras just to look inside some of
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these M shafts [Music] Doug and the team assigned numbers to every mind they could find and they
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color coordinated which ones had been searched and which ones hadn't well the goal was to basically
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check every mine until we we either cleared him or found her and and there was a lot of jumping around at the
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beginning I mean you just had evidence and you had to decide of the evidence what was worthy and what's not all the
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while the detectives interviewing Chris Lee were relaying information to the search teams those stories that Chris
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Lee told about the desert were coming in handy you had a story of the suspect saying he drove up a canyon over here or
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some Ranger saw something funny in this mine over here so we were bopping all around but as days turned to weeks
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without finding Aaron or her body Doug and the rest of the team had to go back to the drawing board which parts of the
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de desert could Aaron be in the answer might be found in Chris Lee's interrogation the interview you heard in
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the beginning of the episode The Detectives spent hours in that interrogation room asking Chris
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questions and pouring over evidence they had already gone through Chris's phone and computer where they found something
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strange um one other thing I want to ask you about when we do analysis on your computers and your phones and all that
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stuff um are we going to see anything about uh murder or anything like that um probably Chris admitted to something he
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said that he had been doing research on the best ways to get rid of a dead body Chris chocked it up to harmless research
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he did after an off-hand conversation with a friend I was having a conversation with one of the guys in the
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duty that um it came up randomly you know R Marine talk about the best way to the
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[Music] body as Chris talked to the police a detective asked more about his phone
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remember the search and rescue team was trying to use cell phone data to find out where Chris may have
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traveled and when you took off Saturday um did you have your phone with you mhm okay yeah but I put it in airplane mode
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Chris said he did have his phone with him but it was on airplane mode to save the battery then the detective asked
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about Aaron have you and Aaron ever met in this area have you and Aaron ever met
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in this dirt area no does she know about this area um maybe I me she drives on that way you can see it
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was in this moment that the cat and mouse game between Chris and the detectives in the room
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changed things became more confrontational and that's why I'm asking about her car okay cuz that's we
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found her car how did you yeah it was parked in that dirt okay okay so any reason why she would
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have been parked in that dirt no not that I think maybe she was meeting up with somebody the detective pressed
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Chris on his story all right guys here's the deal man we've been doing this a long time
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okay we found our vehicle okay we found your tire tracks we know that you were going to
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meet her on Saturday we know that we know that you were going to go take her for a long
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drive and it was going to be a surprise we know those things okay and we also know that you
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were one of the last people to see her alive the detective pulled his chair close to Chris sitting just inches away
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from him while Chris leaned back against the wall stone-faced have you ever been
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up with her up in the mountains or in this area no I okay do you know she's been in this area
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I don't but the police police kept the pressure on only problem is is there's so many different versions of your
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story that nobody's nobody can will leave you honestly then the police confronted
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Chris over Aaron's pregnancy I don't know what might have been going through your
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head when you found out she was pregnant but I can only imagine if it were me I'd have a hell of a lot
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to think about there'd be a lot of emotions there would be a lot of stuff built up
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inside and I'm telling you manto man any man facing that type of situation has a lot to worry
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about at every question he faced Chris denied any wrongdoing at this point it might have
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felt like they had reached an impass but finally during a long silence several hours in Chris revealed a small sliver
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of critical information I didn't see her on Saturday I just saw her vehicle I was at that way
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when I was picking up more tires for a fire and I drove past it to see if she was in there but she wasn't he told
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detectives that he did see Aaron's car the day she went missing I drove past it to see if she was in there but she
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wasn't Chris said I didn't actually ever see her on Saturday and I was worried that if I told you guys I saw her car
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because of my previous relationship with her he would automatically assume I did
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something I was worried that if I told you guys I saw her car you would automatically assume I did something the
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interrogators tried to give Chris opportunities to confess I'm not here to play games with you but I can tell
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you something happened out there something something definitely happened it's only a matter of was it
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planned was it a cold blooded killing or did something just happen that's all it
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is but Chris stuck to his story and without Aaron's body the police had nothing directly linking Chris to her
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disappearance so they were forced to let chrisly go with a warning we're going to find
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Aaron right now the Marine Corps base is helping us they are gathering as many soldiers
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as they possibly can to go out and start checking all these areas we're going to find
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her after his interrogation Chris left the police department and went to Isabelle mey's White Rock horse ranch
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his family had been living there as his military service ended and they prepared
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to move to Alaska it was an awkward Arrangement Chris and his wife and daughter all living in a spare room at
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the ranch the news about Chris and Aaron's Affair and his possible involvement in Aaron's disappearance put
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the ranch's owner Isabelle megley in an uncomfortable position Chris never reacted to anything from the time she
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went missing he never uttered a word to me never talked to me it was the strangest thing I've ever
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seen in the days after Aaron's disappearance Isabelle was becoming increasingly suspicious of Chris and she
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was thinking back to the odd things Chris would do when he was around one time Isabel remembered Chris
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taking a cattle prod and shocking people for fun he also made a gat it's a small
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handheld Weapon made up of a nylon cord stretched tight between two small plastic candles the finished product
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looked sort of like a pair of nunchucks at the horse ranch Chris even showed some local kids how to use it he
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was very proud of it so we would put it on their necks and show them how to how to eliminate them he found great
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pleasure and showing them Chris was no stranger to weapon he' grown up hunting he served in
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Afghanistan and back in the States friends recalled how he liked playing with explosives and shooting target
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practice with his guns but something else stuck with Isabelle something Chris told her after returning from the desert
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about a week before Aaron disappeared he said to me uh in a very exciting tone I found the perfect
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mine he said no one will ever find it the mine was totally isolated he had to go off-roading for 2 hours just to
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find it and I looked at the pictures uh that he showed me but I couldn't tell a mine at that time it was just rocks to
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me and I wasn't interested to tell you the truth and then when she went missing I told the detectives
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this was potentially a big lead the pictures of this mine that Chris Lee took could be the key to finding
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[Music] Aaron Cave expert Doug Billings and the rest of the team were weeks into their
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Surge and still scouring the desert for Aaron I was I was in the sheriff's office going over some of the evidence
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trying to uh narrow down the search and we were talking about is Aaron really in a Min shaft and he
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walks up to me and he pokes me on my chest a couple times says she's in a Min shaft and he points to me goes and
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you're going to find her I said okay let's do it over the course of the search Doug
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dropped down 30 mines himself but the entire search effort covered more than a 100 mines in total the teams were
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fighting 115 degree days dehydration yeah I mean some of the other hazards we were encountering right from the day one
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in addition to the heat was probably one out of every three mines we went into had a rattlesnake in it and a few of
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them had giant black widow nests blocking them and uh you had rock falls and and we had even one incidence where
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we had a big colony of Africanized bees basically infest our camp and the heat the heat was just terrible you know it
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was just so hot you know and it slows you down eventually Doug was brought into the
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crime lab to see the pictures that Chris Lee took during his trip out to the mines the pictures that Isabelle megley
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had mentioned Doug saw them and recognized the area she has to be in that Canyon and as I started making a
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list of everything there I really had a lot of areas where I said I'm not sure everything in there was searched so I
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went back and redrew up a new map and really highlighted the areas that got missed
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the M shaft itself is small and nondescript tucked between the desert and a small mountain range while the
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search and rescue teams made their way toward this spot NCIS investigators and local detectives were trying to keep an
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eye on Chris Lee he no longer had anything tying him to the 29 Palms military base and because they couldn't
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charge him with the crime Chris was a Flight Risk things changed with when Isabelle
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megley mentioned something else in passing to the detectives she said that Chris borrowed megley car to run an
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errand and when he returned she noticed something in the back this big metal contraption that she couldn't really
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make sense of I said what is that thing in my car it's a potato launcher I said what's a potato launcher
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and out of the blue comes a detective he came out and he saids what did you say and and so we repeated it that it was in
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my car I don't know what it is I have no idea why anyone would have a potato gun
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NCIS special agent Clifton Randolph Jr again potato gun is a high-powered destructive device that basically
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launches potatoes or projectiles of that type here's where a small part of California law became very important to
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this story because in California that potato gun is classified as a destructive device that meant owning one
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was illegal here's Isabelle megley again he said that's a felony we will get him right away and so
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Chris Lee was arrested not because of Aaron's disappearance but instead because he was in possession of a
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destructive device a potato gun it's a relatively minor charge in the scheme of things but the important thing is that
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even if Chris made bail he'd have to stay in the state of California as a condition of his bond it's a plan that
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investigators concocted to keep tabs on Chris as they kept up the search for Aaron and as each day passed the
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pressure on those investigators was building this is a person this isn't a case NCIS special agent Clifton Rand Jr
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again you put that photograph of Aaron in your case and that humanizes the person that you're looking for you you
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can't forget that this person has a family has a husband has a mother has a you know brother a sister a friend they
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wanted to know where Aaron was and you can't forget that aon's case only captured local
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headlines at first but on August 1st People magazine published a six-page cover story headlined pregnant and
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missing mystery of the Marine's wife the front page featured a picture of Aaron and John John in his blue Marine uniform
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and Aaron in a matching gown pasted next to a picture of Chris Lee in his cowboy
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hat these faces were now plastered across magazines from coast to coast the Corin investigation had officially
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capture the national Spotlight so the pressure on investigators was going to be higher than ever around this time
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NCIS special agent Randolph stepped onto an airplane only to see row after row of
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passengers reading that very People magazine story you see a sea of it walking down that aisle and I
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remembered I think weeks after that I kept seeing that image in my head there and like con reminded me hey you have a
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job to do with the national Spotlight on Aaron the search for her continued back in the
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desert but 6 weeks into the search the sheriff's department scaled back their efforts saying there was too much ground
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to cover and not enough manpower Doug Billings was helping the remaining search and rescue teams pick
00:32:23
up the slack they were still focused on finding that mind that Chris L visited before Aaron disappeared Doug had been
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leading searches at spots that fit that description they were wrapping up a search on the evening of Saturday August
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16th when a firefighter took one last look deep down one of the mine shafts a 10x10 Gap in the rocks that looked down
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into a dark Chasm flashlights didn't reveal much but something stood out to the team as they approached it
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the smell of gasoline and a smell of decomposition this is reporter Beth Ford Roth again she says the firefighters
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were on high alert could this finally be it they wondered could this be Aaron's resting place the mines were dangerous
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some didn't have enough oxygen for a human being to survive so what the Searchers were doing
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they were taking buckets putting a camera in inside the bucket and then lowering the bucket down the
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mines Beth Ford Roth has seen the terrifying video taken during this search she said you can hear the bucket
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scraping against rock as it slid down into darkness all of a sudden you start to see color and you see a little flash
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of pink and you see you know what looks like Denim and they realized that it was
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a body the firefighters then repelled down into the dark Cavern there laying on a Ledge 140 ft
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beneath the Earth was Aaron's body identified by her tattered pink shirt and denim
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shorts then they looked around because other things had been dumped down the Min shaft as well
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basically um the person who killed Aaron used it as sort of a Dumping Ground for
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every possible piece of evidence that would tie him to Aaron there was a propane tank a
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makeshift torch a bottle of sprite some old tires and a Marine Corp t-shirt but when they were able to
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finally pull Aaron's body out of the hole they found something else something wrapped around her neck a nylon cord
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stretched between two pieces of rebar a handmade garat next time on 48 Hours NCIS while
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ain's family Mourns her death The Manhunt for Chris Lee begins from CBS News and CBS Studios
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