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gosh for anyone who knows Carmen there's just a magic to her she was going through
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this transition ending her marriage there was just no question that we were meant to spend the rest of our lives
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together heard from her that day left a couple messages I'm really concerned I asked a couple of
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months of his friends please give me a call just just to let me know you're okay got panicky and just I knew
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something just wasn't right [Music] and finally called the police there was quite a struggle a heck of a
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fight had gone on in that room Furniture was turned over potted plants were knocked over there was blood everywhere
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ceiling walls carpet was Blood Stained everywhere I think it was fairly clear to us that a
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murder had occurred I knew from the time I had children that the worst thing that would ever happen
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that could ever happen to me would be to lose a child and in this case she was just ripped out of our lives
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somebody had to have a Modi for this to happen I only know one person that had anything to gain Tom my ex son-in-law an
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English Professor but he he couldn't do that he doesn't have the guts I told Mr Murray that his ex-wife Carmen had died
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and that we needed to speak to him about that in me you have not just a likely suspect but a convenient one why didn't
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you just arrest him then and there and we couldn't prove that he had done it this scenario falls apart
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you're very well back to square one we didn't have a lot of physical evidence we never found any bloody clothing we
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never found a murder weapon we were going to have a tough road ahead of us I began to think about all the things
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that I did wrong I didn't spend enough time with her I didn't call her often enough
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the fact that someone took her life away it was important to me that there would
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be some justice this crime will be solved I'll spend every damn penny I've got murder
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[Music] Ed [Music] [Music] thank you you don't meet many people in your life like my daughter so caring about
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everybody and almost everything when they talk about Carmen the oldest of their four daughters
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Danny and Judy Ross are never at a loss for words she's bubbly she's fun to be around she makes the room warm she's the
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sunshine Judy even put together a list of words that come to her mind when she thinks of Carmen brilliant empathetic
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thoughtful spiritual patient political loving peaceful delightful silly playful Courageous full of life daughter of our
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youth [Music] and Carmen's 1985 wedding to her sweetheart Tom Murray was one of the
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best days Danny and Judy ever had beautiful absolutely beautiful both of them wrote their wedding vows I stood
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there and cried through the whole thing was your husband the only one crying that day no there were some others
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that was a happy day absolutely [Music] Carmen met Tom at Ohio State University but it wasn't a typical College romance
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she was a junior he was her English Professor I was hesitant because I didn't know why a professor would be
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interested in one of his students and is he married and how do you know these are questions I've heard parents
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ask in the past sure absolutely sure absolutely Tom Murray was only 27 a first-year professor and once she met
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him Judy was impressed it was very easy to talk to very proper good manners you know everything did you like them
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absolutely did you love him absolutely absolutely Carmen's three little sisters Samantha Heather and April who never had
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a brother were delighted to At Last have a brother-in-law it was family he was you
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know and hang out we'd have Thanksgiving and Christmas dinner and laugh and tell
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stories right after they got married they came over every Sunday after church and we had Sunday dinner together he was
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attending church with us he didn't drink excessively he didn't smoke he exercised
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two of us created together he was polite all the time around everyone who out of
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and bodily carried up to her room and I said Tom you're too good to be true 88 after Carmen graduated from law
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school the couple moved to two men where Tom took a job teaching Linguistics at Kansas State University
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his colleague Lyman Baker says Murray made an immediate impression a very gentle guy he had a very sharp mind
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personable reasonable good listener serious did his work you know I always got the impression from people that they
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really appreciated having a man like that to work with and despite the fact that his specialty Linguistics can be a
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little tedious Tom Murray managed to make it almost exciting he was a great teacher there seemed to be something
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very gentle and at the same time very endearing and caring never came with any notes or anything he would just come in
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sit on the desk just like we are and deliver his lesson and I thought that was pretty you know admirable because he
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knew everything about the subject but while Tom Murray was on the academic Fast Track Carmen was struggling to find
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her place in the world she gave up law after just a few years and instead hoping to change people's lives in less
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confrontational ways she became a mediator she would always say she was a recovering attorney and she wanted to
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help people though so she decided to mediate because she thought she could help them come to you know a solution
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without having to go through all that but Tom and Carmen were searching for a solution to their own problem they could
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not decide whether to have a child when they first got married they were going to have children Tom wanted a bunch then
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they were married for 13 years and now Tom doesn't want any children and she's now changed careers and now she wants
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children in 1998 despite the disagreement Carmen became pregnant and that December she
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gave birth to a daughter Kiara he was angry I think with Carmen being pregnant and never treated to the same after I
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think he punished her Carmen stopped working she loved being a mother but felt she was Raising Kiara alone and
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Tom's indifference to the baby LED Carmen to question other parts of her life she felt as if she was living a
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life that just didn't fit very well with how she felt about things and how she believed Angela Hayes Carmen's best
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friend it sounds cliche but she wanted so much to help people and she felt as if she wasn't able to do that in the way
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that her life was playing out Carmen was about to make a momentous decision when
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Kiara was still a toddler Carmen changed careers again and became a Healer she was in an apprentice program where she
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was physically doing treatment of people in the local area and a lot of people made fun of it
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because they didn't understand it perhaps even her husband Carmen was practicing consegrity a
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spiritual approach to medicine that claims to teach the body to heal itself in September 2002 she went to a
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consegrity conference in Wichita and that's where she met Larry Lima she came home and said have you ever looked into
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somebody's eyes and just felt like you know you were soul mates just like that the conventional thinking is that's what
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you're supposed to feel about your husband true and I think she did up until maybe that day how did she change
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when she met Larry Lima she was Carmen mild and she had the sparkle back in her eyes she was like almost too happy I was
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like why are you this happy Larry Lima was a social worker living in San Diego shortly after they met the
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couple began an affair are you upset about the relationship that she was in it bothered me it hurt
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me because she was acting in ways that a lot of people in the world act that who
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don't have respect for their spouse and just are out living for their own self-gratification
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but after year fulfilled life her friends thought change was good for her she was
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extremely happy and not only had I never seen her that happy I've never seen anybody that happy she felt that her
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life was unfolding as she'd always wanted her life to be and it wasn't long before Carmen decided
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she wanted to divorce Tom Murray she tried to get him to go to counseling she tried to make it work and she eventually
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just said it isn't going to work but the trouble was only just beginning because Carmen had not only decided to
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leave Tom she decided to take their daughter with her how does a peace-loving mediator type person react
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to a nasty custody battle she described it to us that her mama bear claws are going to have to come out
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oh [Music] she's like the morning light and a very dark night Larry Lima still remembers
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the first time Carmen Ross caught his eye we met at a workshop in Wichita Kansas and she had this plate and I
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walked by and she you know just very kindly asked if I wanted a piece of watermelon and I grabbed a watermelon
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seed and ate it and walked away she just kind of raised her eyebrows and said afterwards that she knew
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you know that that was the moment Larry lives in San Diego and by the fall of 2002 Carmen was flying to see him as
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often as possible she confided to Larry that her marriage to Tom Murray was ending something had kind of died inside
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she had worked very hard and been unhappy for a very very long time in her marriage in her marriage yeah
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in June 2003 after Murray grudgingly agreed to divorce Carmen she began making plans to move to California but
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even though Tom Murray didn't want children at first he now was not about to let go of their daughter Kiara we had
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hoped to work out you know some sort of an agreement that would be best for Kiara to go back and forth and just
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clearly wasn't going to be feasible did she want him in her life absolutely in Kiara's life absolutely so did I I know
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how important it is for a child to be with both parents as much as possible so Carmen left Manhattan and moved here to
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Lawrence Kansas about 90 minutes away from Tom Larry limo is now planning to move here and join her Carmen and Tom
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were temporarily sharing custody of Chiara but working with a mediator to negotiate a permanent settlement Carmen
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was determined to work things out she didn't want to hurt him even though she was leaving him she still wanted she
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wanted to be friends with him she really believed that in some point in time they
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would become friends again but while Carmen was trying to bridge their differences Tom was busy Burning Bridges
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clearly he was angry and certainly sent emails and phone calls that upset her were you surprised that he was putting
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up such a fight on the custody issue oh no no no no no no because no that's all he has left but also he wanted to win
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he's a winner but this time Carmen was determined to win on November 11 2003 she arrived at the mediation session and
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put her foot down she told Tom that she wanted gar to live with her and then I was moving there and how was she
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emotionally at that point I think that in the midst of feeling anxious and and a bit afraid that there was also a sense
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of relief because she had done it she had done it yeah but she was clearly saddened and afraid of how it was going
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to turn out by the next night when Larry called from San Diego Carmen was feeling better we
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spoke for hours Wednesday night and I thought that she was in a fairly good place I mean
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um that we were going to get through this as it turned out that was the last conversation they ever had they didn't
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hear from her that next morning I uh I knew something was wrong on Friday afternoon Larry frantically called the
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Douglas County Sheriff's Department detective Doug Woods went to Carmen's house to investigate and when he got
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there it was almost too much even for him Blood on the floor Blood on the walls Blood on the ceiling Furniture had
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been turned over potted plants and stuff were broken against the fireplace there
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was a great degree of brutality I think that went on in this house and in the middle of the room Carmen
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Ross lay dead beaten and stabbed to death at the age of 40. I remember sensing that um
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this is just not true Carmen's house was now a crime scene one that promised a wealth of physical
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evidence as crime scene investigators combed the house for Clues detective Woods drove to Manhattan to tell Tom
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Murray his ex-wife was dead Mr Murray came the door opened the door I told Mr Murray that his ex-wife Carmen
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had died and that we needed to speak to him about that what did he say Mr Murray
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asked me if we had to do it right now he said do we have to do this now and you said I said would be best if we could do
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this right now so Murray agreed to go with Woods to a nearby police station did you have to convince him to talk no
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sir to the extent that I'm helping and you were solving the case I'm tickled to death to participate he was free to go
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but I'm not holding you here against your will no have you hear of your own free will and you're agreeing to stay
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and you don't have to keep refilling that stuff you haven't been mean to me in fact it turned out the professor
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couldn't stop talking he sat with Detective woods and others from 8 30 that night until six o'clock
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the next morning without a lawyer when this interrogation began all you had said to to Professor Murray is that his
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ex-wife had died yes sir did he want to know what had happened he never asked me
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how she died if I were you I'd be looking at me I think you should so in my mind then tell me what a great guy
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you are why I shouldn't be pointing the finger at you a little bit right now you're going to know me
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um I'm sort of the original Boy Scout I mean I've always been mysterious heroin the quiver you could explain away
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everything that we would bring out him I think he thought he was smarter than we
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were I had bought a fresh pineapple and was cutting it apart and sliced into my sliced into my hand there
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Murray's right hand had small cuts both his wrists were bruised and they all happened in the last two or three
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days and Murray vehemently denied killing Carmen I never wanted Carmen dead I wanted her reasonable you have
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some kind of strategy in mind when you're talking to him basically locking him into his story then we can start
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disproving some of the things he says Mr Murray however though would change his story periodically you're going to look
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at this with it a raised eyebrow I did go out and drive around with it but I did not drive through walls I didn't
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tell you that before it was a cat and mouse game we need to hear sort of looking over my shoulders
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that went on all night long no there's no such thing as the Perfect Crime you're gonna get caught the bad guy
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always gets caught but if Murray was the bad guy he wasn't getting caught tonight
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so at this point you don't have compelling evidence you're not gonna you're not gonna come
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get us to sit here and tell you about our case okay I don't want you to tell me about the case but I'm concluding
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that because if you had compelling evidence would you just go ahead and arrest me
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6 a.m Tom Murray went home I was upset with myself because I didn't push the right button or say ask the right
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questions or go in the right direction and get him to confess Murray talked so much he was now their
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number one suspect but police had nothing against him I don't know why I got these except a lot of talk they
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waited for evidence from the crime scene and finally found nothing we never found
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any bloody clothing we never found a murder weapon it just didn't exist Tom Murray continued to teach and to
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raise Kiara over the following months Danny Ross feared the murder would never be solved though he was growing
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suspicious of the son-in-law he once loved how do you come to terms with that don't have an answer for that because if
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I had thought he had actually Killed My Daughter I would have heard him right then badly
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[Music] nearly one year after Carmen Ross was murdered in November 2003 we'd run the
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gamut of this case we weren't going to find any more evidence police still had not arrested anyone
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then in October 2004 detectives Doug Woods Pat Pollock and Lyle hagenbush decided they would have to take a chance
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on a circumstantial case they arrested their number one suspect Professor Tom Murray I thought we had a
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good case not great not great because we didn't have a lot of physical evidence it was very hard for Carmen's sisters
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Samantha Heather and April to believe the charges you don't want somebody that you loved that you gave Christmas
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presents to that you hugged and said you loved you don't want them to be the person who could have done that
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things were about to get tougher for the Rosses just three months before Murray's
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trial began the district attorney in Lawrence was voted out of office leaving this case in the hands of Angela Wilson
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an assistant D.A trouble was she'd never prosecuted a murder before I've handled
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a number of rape cases in attempted murder case but this is by far the most involved
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but Kansas has an unusual law that allows victims to pay for a special prosecutor to help the District
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Attorney's office so the Ross family hired Tom bath a noted defense attorney to be part of the prosecution team I'm
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assistant counsel which means it's really up to them to decide what role if any I have in this case they've allowed
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me to be a full team member Murray has hired two of the state's best attorneys Pedro iraganagarai and Bob I I
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think our best card is the evidence or the lack thereof good morning Danny how you doing in
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February 2005 the Rosses came to Lawrence determined to win two things all right a guilty verdict it's the
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state of Kansas versus Thomas E Murray 2004 and custody of Carmen and Tom's daughter Kiara who'd been living with
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them since Tom's arrest on November 13th of 2003 Thomas Murray a precise articulate
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college professor bludgeoned his former wife to death in the living room of her home as Angela Wilson Begins the biggest
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trial of her career she's a little nervous a few months before Carmen's death she moved into her own apartment
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in Manhattan apartment in Manhattan that afternoon at 12 15 excuse me at 12 45 and it would be nearly 24 hours or over
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24 hours before anybody would know she was dead thank you your honor defense attorney Bob I is eager to exploit the
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weaknesses of Angela Wilson's case all they had was a hunch and a hunch is all they have today
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it's an emotional day for everyone this is a photograph of Carmen when she was alive
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she was the person even for the normally stoic Tom Murray after investigating for more than a year
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the best piece of evidence against Mari is still the first piece his 10-hour videotaped interview with the police
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investigators asked Murray about the day of Carmen's murder and Thursday morning
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did you go afterwards no and I drove home when I graded my midterms Murray was seen at 8 30 a.m
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when he dropped his daughter off at the babysitters and again around noon when he got her back no one saw him in
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between and detectives believe that's when he drove 90 miles to Lawrence to kill Carmen in my mind I can't get there
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and back inside of the time I have available but detective Lyle hagenbush says Murray
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Could Hagen Bush knows because he did it we were able to show that Tom Murray could drive from Manhattan to Lawrence
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and have plenty of time to kill Carmen Ross and return to Manhattan detectives don't
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think for Murray to kill Carmen they think he beat her first then stabbed Carmen with a knife he got from
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her kitchen I didn't do it I mean I'll sit here and say this until I'm doing the face you can choose to believe me or
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not all I can do is tell you the truth there are times when Murray appears genuinely upset
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so bad and times when he's not you are a very skilled interviewer and you've been
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trained very well you too Doug I mean you're good at what you guys do you knew during the time when the defense finally
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gets a chance to speak Pedro iraganagarai says even though it lasted almost 10 hours Tom Murray's statement
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proves nothing have you found one bit of conclusive proof that Mr Murray was at Carmen Ross's house on the 13th
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of November I'm not aware of any in fact the state's own forensic experts who prosecutors hope will link Murray to
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the crime actually help the defense team make its case there were 54 or 55 samples tested from Miss Ross's home
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adding none of those Mr Murray's DNA was found correct correct there's no DNA and
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there's only one fingerprint matching Tom Murray's the only fingerprint that was found of Thomas Murray's was on a
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brown dropper bottle yes and no Prince of his were found anywhere else that is correct it is true is it not then the
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defense says the evidence suggests there was more than one person at the crime scene
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police found what looked like two bloody shoe prints neither of those two shoe prints
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matched anything to your knowledge belonging to Mr Murray that's correct no further questions
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faced with a lack of forensic evidence the prosecution argues Murray is the only person with a motive to kill Carmen
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they believe he exploded after a mediation session just two days before the murder it was apparent to her that
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they were going to have to go into a custody battle and prosecutors say Tom Murray had another motive the oldest one
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in the book jealousy because Carmen's fiancee Larry Lima was about to move to Lawrence are you in love with her
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passionately when were you planning to move to Lawrence first part of December [Music]
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that exhibit can you point for the jury the location where you would have gone into the house as the state methodically
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Works through four weeks of testimony he seemed disheveled he seemed tired the trial is long were you able to determine
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the number of stab wounds here in this neck area W13 and at times difficult this is a tear of the tissue that's been
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caused by Crush of the tissue between a hard object and the bone underneath it's a numb feeling
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because as I sit there and I saw the all the pictures it makes me think thoughts
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that I don't think a human being should have to think [Music] prosecutors say Murray carefully planned
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Carmen's murder and cleaned up afterwards and they're about to present some startling evidence explaining how
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an English Professor could possibly know so much about murder these are the computers that were taken from Mr Murray
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the search term was how to murder someone and not get caught [Music] thank you foreign
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[Music] Professor Thomas Murray's attorneys say things are going their way the physical
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evidence that they've presented in is by and large shown exactly what we thought
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it would and that is that Tom Murray was not at the scene of his crime that's just what Danny Ross is worried
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about if in fact the worst case happens and he is acquitted then the jury is going to put him back with my
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granddaughter yes suggestions of Ross's from five different states have moved to Lawrence
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Kansas for the duration of the trial the doctors were find any evidence but the routine
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is becoming a grind it's really hard to sit there patiently and let them do their job and it concerns me is he going
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to get the justice that he really deserves there is good reason for the Rosses to be nervous and if it's Carmen
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that is a Lie the prosecutors started out strongly playing Tom Murray's revealing police interview all right but
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now assistant D.A Angela Wilson is having a tough time trying her first murder what was the quantity of blood
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involved in that case objection you're honest that's not relevant on a case of his magnitude it has been overwhelming
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at times questions about websites but things are starting to look up for the prosecution and the Rosses the jury is
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about to hear the most powerful forensic evidence yet and it's got nothing to do
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with blood or DNA have you ever gotten on the internet and looked up any websites that
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have to do with crime scenes or polygraphs oh I got into the CSI website occasionally have fantasies about trying
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to make it as a freelance writer investigators could not have imagined what they discover When
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They confiscated Murray's computers it turns out the professor was not just researching Linguistics although there
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is a word for the kind of searches he was doing online suspicious maybe even damning
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Robert Dean Brown Dean Brown is a forensic computer expert he dug around in the recesses of Murray's computers 11
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25 a.m the search for on Yahoo quotes murder For Hire just a few seconds later to another search then yes ma'am there's
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a search for how to hire an assassin it's you find anything uh shortly more than an hour later and there was a
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search for how to make a bomb it's beginning to sound like a prosecutor's dream it shows Yahoo search
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for how to murder someone and not get caught investigators were thrilled with the secrets Murray's computers revealed
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especially when they learned the searches were conducted just as the custody battle Tom and Carmen were
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having was getting nasty when you have somebody searching numerous times for this kind of topic and then somebody
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winds up dead it's kind of a clue you're hoping in part to to hoist this guy on his own
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hard drive sure yes can you do it the evidence is there but the defense has an explanation the
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next page shows a site visit on the 10th of November to something called twisttv.com scripts CSI
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Mr Murray was interested in the possibility of writing an episode for a CSI type program is your best
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explanation of these internet searches that they're just an unfortunate coincidence what would you like for us
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to do invent something I mean a trial lawyer works with what he or she has to work with
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the computers offer up more bad news or Professor Murray emails that show his anger with Carmen
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was growing and even more pissed at her for beginning an intimate relationship with
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another man and even more pissed at her for continuing that relationship through
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all the months that she and I were supposed to be making an effort at working things out but I can't just sit
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back and have my daughter taken away from me I'm increasingly coming to feel like an animal that's being backed into
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a corner state is rested the prosecution rests Tom Murray's defense will make three
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main points first a custody attorney told Murray he had no reason to fear that Carmen would take Kiara away if one
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parent wants to leave the state of Kansas fine but they don't take the child with him
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next the defense argues even though Murray expressed his anger in emails he was still committed to working with
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Carmen and that's according to the mediator herself Nancy Hughes they worked well together it was pretty clear
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that they were trying to support each other in doing and taking care of their daughter and finally the defense argues
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not only is there no evidence Professor Murray was even at the crime scene there
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is a mystery bloodstain on Carmen sink suggesting someone else was at Carmen's house
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defense expert Robert Tressel would you please describe for the jury what that stain represents to you what we call a
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pattern bloodstain transfer you have an opinion as to what could have caused that particular stain on that pedestal
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sink my impression is this is a tennis shoe print if it is a shoe print the defense says it's not Murray's can we
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get copies of your notes please but Angela Wilson has hit her stride and hits back attacking the experts
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expertise you don't have any certifications in the area of bloodstain analysis do you
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certifications I'm sorry sir but that's a question that just requires a yes or no answer so if you could please answer
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my question the one that I'm asking you don't have any certifications in the area of bloodstain pattern analysis do
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you no I do not I felt I could see Angela just get a little more confident as the trial went
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along I think she did a superb job look at the knife look at the edge and she saved a little
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drama for her closing argument this is a person who is bent on murder 13 times he slammed that knife into her neck
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Tom Murray never takes the stand the defense pins its hopes on Reasonable Doubt and they argue and there is plenty
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of it let's go back to the crime scene there's none of his blood there none of his fingerprints
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none of his Footprints no one sees his car there no one nor any scientific test can put Tom
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Murray on that house on the 13th for the Ross family this is now one of the hardest parts of the trial waiting
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for the jury to decide I recognize that the jury could find him innocent and if he is found innocent then my heart will
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be broken again because we'll have to give our granddaughter to him [Music] I'm past being hurt I'm just very angry
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at what this man did to my daughter it's been nearly a year and a half since Danny Ross's daughter Carmen was
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murdered it has now taken her away from us so I never get a chance to hug her ever again
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there's no doubt in the World Carmen but the fate of the accused murderer her ex-husband Tom Murray now
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rests with the jury it's putting the case in the hands of 12 people that don't know everything that we know they
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get to make the decision and that's that's very tough I have looked over at him still sitting there and I watch him
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I'm like I loved you there's no wiggle room for the jurors they either have to convict Maria first
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degree murder or set him free everything is on the table as we speak right over there Murray's attorneys
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repeatedly argued but Murray's life is not the only one at stake Ross and Murray shared custody if he's acquitted
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the Rosses would have to give him Kiara the daughter he had with Carmen it's the
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worst case scenario the Ross's hope they'll never face my daughter was killed and we can't bring her back
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but having my granddaughter raised in a proper environment is what my daughter would have wanted and that's the most
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important thing to our family All Rise just only swear the testimony you're about to give him this it took five
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weeks to present all the evidence research and the jury is taking its time going through it all I believe he's
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guilty and I believe he's going to be found guilty after three days of deliberations there's a verdict it is
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Saint Patrick's Day and the professor appears relaxed reading a book on the Polish language even as he waits for the
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jury to come back all right state of Kansas versus Thomas E Murray verdict we the jury find the defendant Thomas E
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Murray guilty of murder in their first degree Murray is one of the few people in the
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courtroom who contains himself Carmen's family is overwhelmed we've gotten the outcome that you wanted
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what does Justice feel like thank God for so long it has been all about this process coming to an end
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today this imagining this day and that we have Kiara she's safe now I can really mourn for Carmen it is also an
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emotional victory for the prosecutors especially Angela Wilson who began this trial as a rookie against seasoned
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defense attorneys and one big I think this is the first time I've ever seen a prosecutor cry it over
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when it was a good one there was just so much emotion around this case and around the family and it
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has been very good to be included in the family fold I think I joked early on that I was an honorary Ross girl
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Carmen's family and her fiance have the verdict they want and they know it's now
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time to move on I'm convinced that this is a domestic violence related homicide Larry remembers Carmen by volunteering
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with domestic violence victims at the Family Justice Center in San Diego every victim that comes in here it's like okay
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Carmen you know how do we how do we go about making this person's life a little less traumatic
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it will be a little harder for the Rosses who once considered Murray a son and a brother
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[Music] this guy was part of your life and it is a very it's a very confusing conflicting feeling
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because I have no doubt that it were his hands that hurt her but I don't know what happened to his
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head to come to realize that someone that you love took away someone that you love
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how am I supposed to explain that to my kids when I don't get it and his daughter
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[Music] there'll be no explanations from Tom Murray who remained defiant at his sentencing
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I remain non-plussed that the jury believed the prosecution's fairy tale of my involvement in Carmen Ross's death
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he insisted he was innocent and refused to apologize I have never raised my hand in Anger
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against anyone not ever much less against the woman with whom I created a child and in a rare display of emotion
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dear Chiara he saved his last words for his daughter since I can't be with you I'm very glad you're able to live with
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people who love you so much Yara who is now nine lives with the Rosses at home in Indiana
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I asked her I said are you worried about who's going to take care of you and she looked at me like this and she
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said no I'm glad I have my family to take care of me and she's got an entire family that adores her and would do
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anything for her and we'll take care of her together we will take care of her [Music]
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