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foreign [Music] you come here for the lifestyle and the beauty and the mountains
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getting to go skiing and hiking and biking Annette schnee was very beautiful she
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had gone to a modeling school and she came here to Breckenridge everybody was going to Colorado you know
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go find yourself go to the Big Town you know in 1982 on January 6th Annette had gone
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from her work in Frisco at the Holiday Inn she needed to get home to get her outfit to work at the flipside bar that
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night she would hitchhike from her house do her day job hitchhike back and put on
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her nighttime cocktail waitress outfit he checked there and then hitch right back
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a lot of people hitchhiked at that time because they can't afford to drive or get a car to drive back and forth
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there was a storm a bad storm it was very cold too I think it was 20 below about 4 45 in the afternoon
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was the last time anybody saw a net schnee that same night another young woman disappeared in Breckenridge
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Bobby Joe oberholtzer Bobby Joe had received a promotion at work and she was going to go celebrate
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with some friends Bobby Joe was pre-spirited she loved life she was happy wherever she was
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she left and went to go hitchhike home and that was the last time she was seen the day after Bobby Joe disappeared her
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body was found here on the side of a snow bank on Hoosier pass 10 miles outside Breckenridge she had tragically
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been shot six months later the body of Annette schnee was also found about 10 miles in that direction in a desolate
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area lying face down in a stream she had also been shot the mystery of what happened to these two beautiful young
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women would haunt their families and investigators for years these two women they were both killed
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the same night the thing that tied them both together was an orange booty sock you get a sock in your Bobby Joe
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oberholtzer and the meat to it is found on the body of an acacia I'm seen this is amazing
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as years went by you know we Muse about whether or not we were going to die before we solved this case
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what no one else knew at the time was that the Killer's truck got stuck on a snowy mountain pass that same night
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right after the murders that would be right where that curb is over there and there's snow Banks I'll lose that deep
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yeah and a local fire chief saved him everything catches up but you now get away with anything forever
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[Music] foreign [Music] [Music] every day that I made this drive and got to see all the scenery and the sunrises
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and sunsets and especially from the top of hoosier it's like I am so lucky to live here
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[Music] no how did dark and silent secret the unsolved murders of Annette schnee and
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Bobby Joe oberholtzer they would Define the career of now Park County detective Sergeant Wendy keppel but back in 1982
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when both women were killed I was a senior in high school doing High School teenage stuff we were just basically
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footloose and fancy free and never giving the first thought that something could happen to us it was an attitude
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from another time a feeling Wendy shared with Bobby Joe Bobby Joe oberholtzer was
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somebody that I think I would have been friends with how much is she missed by her family
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a lot still Lori Merlot's memory of big sister Bobby Joe is Frozen in those gentler
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times one of the best things that ever happened in my life was being her younger sister how do you describe her
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a free spirit loving person very pretty you know fell head over heels for her he
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fell hard yeah yeah I did Jeff oberholtzer and Bobby Joe dated for a few years before making it official in
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1977 and soon the newlyweds from the Midwest headed for the mountains Colorado was crawling you know they'd
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called the town of Alma half an hour south of Breckenridge home seemed to be the place to be you know as
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hippies you were a hippie back then oh sure yeah it was Bobby Joe hippie too oh yeah yeah
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Jeff opened an appliance repair business Bobby Joe worked for a real estate company in Breckenridge she'd often
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hitch a ride to work back then many people did people would look for you they saw you standing by the side of the
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road they'd pick you up well Jeff knew Ed it was a large brass clip very heavy with a large brass ring attached to it
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and it was made for self-defense January 6 1982 bitter cold with snow in the forecast Bobby Joe hitched to work
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where that same afternoon she'd be pleasantly surprised a job promotion she called Jeff with the good news and told
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him she planned to celebrate with friends after work and would be home soon okay everything's good
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but when Bobby Joe wasn't home by midnight he got worried and drove to the home of the friends Bobby Joe had been
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celebrating with welcome up asked him you know where Bobby was if they knew and she didn't know and it wasn't like
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her to not come home no not at all Jeff went to the Breckenridge police department but was told it was too soon
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to file a missing persons report so he headed back to Alma alone the phone rang I think about quarter to
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eight it was a Rancher he had found her driver's license and some of the contents of her wallet blowing in his
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driveway oh oh then I knew something was horribly wrong Jeff and some friends all headed towards
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the ranch where Bobby Joe's license had been found that's when I spotted her backpack out in the snow and I got out
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of the vehicle and went through the snow that's when I found her glove in the snow
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and it was covered in blood [Music] a bloody tissue also lay in the snow but still no Bobby Joe
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Jeff went back to their house and Friends headed up Hoosier past the route Bobby Joe usually took home
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they went up with cross-country skis to the pass and they've found her body now investigators joined Bobby Joe's
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friends spreading out across the Stark landscape Bobby Joe's brass key ring with the hook
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was found in the parking lot that her husband Jeff oberholtzer had put together for her to use as a weapon if
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she needed to former Colorado Bureau of Investigation agent Jim Hartke was at the crime scene
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the other item that was found up there was an orange booty like a ankle sock it didn't belong it didn't fit anything
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connected with Bobby Joe oberholtzer lay Bobby Joe the body was frozen she was fully clothed her hands were
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close together one hand had been zip tied and Hartke believes Bobby Joe had been
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shot at close range in the chest once a free spirit the lifeless 29 year old was placed in a bag Jeff pleaded to
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look they unzipped the bag and it was it was by Bobby Joe come on did you have any idea who could have
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done that to your wife none but Jeff's tears weren't what cops were looking for when did police call you in
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and say we have some questions for you maybe the next day or so I told him he's the number one suspect
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but it so far indicates the woman may have been trying to escape into the trees when she was gunned down but the
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investigation was about to become a lot more complicated when police learned of The Disappearance of Annette schnee who
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vanished the very same day as Bobby Joe they probably just passed each other and
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didn't even know they would be connected foreign the first inkling Cindy French had that
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her big sister Annette was missing came when her mother answered the family's old rotary telephone I heard her on the
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phone I heard her start to cry I said what's wrong and she said Annette is missing
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all the police could tell the family was that Annette schnee had vanished the news seemed inconceivable only 21 years
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old Annette had left the family's home in Sioux City Iowa a year earlier and seemed to be thriving in Colorado she
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had two jobs housekeeper by day and cocktail waitress by night and she was friends with her roommates and the
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people that she worked at the Holiday Inn at were her friends that she would talk about quite frequently to Mom and
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it was a friend from work who reported a net missing it was January 8 1982 the day after Bobby Joe overholtzer's body
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was found as soon as older sister Karen reason heard the news she rounded up relatives and headed to Colorado
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what were you thinking could have happened to her in that moment not knowing knowing she hitchhiked we
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figured somebody picked her up yeah we were all hoping she was still alive you know you do keep that hope but in the
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back of your mind you're probably thinking not but you don't want to think that as investigators tracked Annette's last
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movements they discovered she had actually disappeared appeared the same day as Bobby Joe
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but the twist was that a net vanished hours before Bobby Joe that was last seen at about 4 30 in the afternoon in
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in Breckenridge Bobby Joe oberholtzer was last seen in Breckenridge at about 7 30 in the evening
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from the outset former CBI agent Jim hardkey suspected the two cases might be connected it was a pretty all-out effort
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to find any information from anyone investigators learned that after Annette left her job at the Holiday Inn on
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January 6th she had visited a doctor's office and then hitchhiked to a drugstore in Breckenridge detective
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Sergeant Wendy kipple showed us where that drugstore once was located she went in to get some medication went in to get
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some medication here she was talking to a woman that we've never been able to identify and that was the last time she
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was seen Cindy says not knowing the details of Annette's disappearance haunted their
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mother I know Mom would just say I just want to know why how you know I just that's all I want to
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know nobody can give it to me nobody knows why or how and in a strange turn of event Jeff oberholtzer already a
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suspect in his own wife's murder told police when and where he thought Annette's body might be located
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how would you know that I've always had different premonitions all my life I had
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told them that I felt that she'd be found four miles from my house on the fourth of July it's pretty specific yeah
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and it wasn't far off that sure made me look pretty bad in fact when Annette's body was
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discovered nearly six months after she vanished Jeff's premonition turned out to be scarily accurate she was found on
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July 3 1982 a day before just prediction and her body was roughly seven not four
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miles from Jeff's house it was a young boy who came across the crime scene he was fishing and founder reported to his
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dad and the dad called the sheriff's department Charlie McCormick a private investigator hired by the schnee family
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says Annette was lying face down and fully clothed in Sacramento Creek about 23 miles from the drugstore where she
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was last seen but she'd been shot once in the back exit wound front on a downward angle of about 30 degrees so
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what does that tell you could be uh she was on her knees could be she was running down a hill away from her the
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person shot her already suspected an might have been sexually assaulted evidence kind of indicates that her
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clothing was found in disarray her blue jeans Zipper was broken we believe that the shoes were on the wrong feet when
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she was found former CBI agent Hartke attended a net autopsy and his eye was drawn to
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something that would forever change the course of the investigation on her left foot I noticed an orange booty and in my
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mind I'm remembering the orange booty that was found at the top of hoosier pass very close to where Bobby Joe
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overholtzer's body was found and I'm saying holy [ __ ] this is amazing this ties the cases together
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from the Bobby Joe crime scene it was just one of those mysterious things that you pick up at a crime scene
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kipple believes Annette lost her orange sock in the Killer's vehicle there it remained until hours later when
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he picked up Bobby Joe and attacked her she jumps out and when she jumped out of
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the truck the orange sock gets kicked out of the truck and that sock was not the only piece of evidence found on
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Annette's body in the pocket of her jacket they discovered a business card like this one with a familiar name Jeff
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oberholtzer Jeff told police he recalled giving Annette a ride in November 1981.
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when she was out hitchhiking Jeff says that at the time he was promoting his appliance repair business with those
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cards I gave to everyone so now police know that you had met Annette yes did that add to their
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suspicion oh yes Jeff did you have anything to do with the murder of your wife Bobby Joe no I think nothing
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did you have anything to do with the murder of anachni not nothing no despite now being connected to the two
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murdered women and having that very accurate premonition Jeff eventually was clear his blood type did not match the
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blood found on Bobby Joe's glove and the nearby tissue and as advances were made
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with DNA technology Jeff's DNA was not a match I told him I said Jeff in my book you're not a suspect
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but after nearly 40 years could DNA help identify the real killer in the murders
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of Bobby Joe and Annette early in 2020 kipple and her team decided to try and find out and I said
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let's try this genealogy thing maybe it can work for us she sent the DNA sample generated from the Bobby Joe
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investigation to United data connect the Denver company runs crime scene DNA profiles through publicly available
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genealogical databases on January 9th 2021 I get a phone call from the genealogist says I have two
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more names for you and one of those turned out to be the one [Music] I knew from the start this was going to
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come down to DNA foreign 2021 Park County detective Sergeant Wendy kipple got a call about those new
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DNA test results and it turned out there was not one but two possible matches for
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blood found on Bobby Joe's glove and that tissue that were recovered back in 1982. I'll never forget the day I got
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that phone call and I got those names and what were the two names you were given Alan Phillips and Bruce Phillips
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69-year-old Alan Lee Phillips and his older brother Bruce Phillips kipple reached out to Bruce first
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according to kipple Bruce said he never lived in Colorado but that his brother whom he was estranged from had
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and when kipple dug deeper she discovered that not only had Alan Phillips previously lived just outside
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Breckenridge and worked in a local mine Alan Phillips still lived nearby he had his own mechanic shop and he was still
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here Phillips had been married three times and had a daughter and two stepsons kipple wanted to learn more about
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Philip's past when I looked at his criminal history it showed that he had been arrested in 1973 for assault and
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burglary and that just kind of set off all kinds of red flags [Music] so she set out to find the arrest file
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she was met with dead end after dead end the courts had no record of the case neither did the DA's office
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I knew I had to find that case File so I went over to the archives for the Sheriff's office there was a fire and a
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lot of them were destroyed but kipple was undeterred she says she'd combed through hundreds
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of boxes and filing cabinets finding nothing until I get down to the last filing cabinet are you kidding me the
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last one last filing cabinet and even down to the second to the last drawer halfway back I see this tab says Alan
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Phillips wow I was like this is it this is our golden egg right here in that police report from July 1973
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nearly a decade before the murders of Annette and Bobby Joe kipple found a signed confession from Phillips then
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just 22 years old explaining how he attacked a young woman the first sentence reads I saw a woman hitchhiking
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on the south edge of Breckenridge and I stopped and gave her a ride over to Fairplay
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and then he goes on and describes what he did to her what kipple read was chilling
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Phillip said that he stopped at an empty cabin along the road pulled the girl from the Jeep
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and then picked up a rock and used it to hit her several times when I saw that first sentence I was
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like this is him this is our guy incredibly the young woman who didn't want her identity revealed was able to
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convince Phillips to Let Her Go and later reported the incident to police did he say in that confession why
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he did it he didn't know he told her I don't I don't know why I do this I mean that gives makes your skin crawl
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yeah Phillips was charged with assault and burglary and served six months behind
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bars kipple also learned that Phillips's name had come up in connection with the
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double murder back in 2005 when an anonymous caller gave a tip to Crime Stoppers investigators checked it out
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but according to kipple the lead went cold when the information couldn't be verified but now kipple was confident
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she was on the verge of nabbing a killer who had eluded them for decades there was only one thing left to do we
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had to get surreptitious DNA that's what we needed so you're looking for anything
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he's throwing out anything in late January 2021 kipple and her team began secretly surveilling Phillips
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it turned out obtaining a sample of his DNA wasn't easy he wouldn't throw anything away he didn't even throw out
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his garbage where did he put his garbage I don't know that wasn't the only challenge this
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guy's kind of a Hermit he stays at home he doesn't interact with people too much
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finally after five weeks there was a break Phillips left his home and went to a Sonic Drive-In we're all like sitting
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there watching and watching and he gets his food eats and then he leaves I'm like dang it
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he didn't throw his trash away so kipple and her team followed Phillips as he drove to a post office he walked
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in carrying the Sonic bag but on the way out he was only holding mail the second Phillips pulled away
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investigators recovered that all-important bag from this trash can it's like ah okay this bag was like gold
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it was like gold yeah the bag was taken to a lab where Philip's DNA was pulled from saliva on a napkin and what were
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the results is Alan Phillips blood that was on Bobby Joe's glove and that Kleenex
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nearly 40 years after the murders of two women near Breckenridge investigators make an arrest in this cold case on
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February 24th we arrested Alan Lee Phillips I gotta put the handcuffs on him and he was shocked
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the look of shock on his face is just priceless Alan Lee Phillips was initially charged
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with two counts each a first degree homicide kidnapping and assault he denied any involvement in the crimes
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for the families of Bobby Joe and Annette it was a moment nearly four decades in the making one they thought
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might never come that was a shock the way that they were able to get the DNA to find him and catch him was
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amazing truthfully I didn't think it would happen in my lifetime it was just mind-blowing jaw-dropping I didn't know
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what to think was it like relief all at once too yes a relief and you're happy but yet it
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doesn't take the hurt away but the surprises didn't and there in another strange twist after Phillip's
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arrest a local man recalled a harrowing story of how he helped rescue Phillips from a snowstorm
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the very night of the murders when I heard this story my mind was blown the evidence in the case
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foreign like you see now with the wind and everything the clouds well that's the
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way it is up here all the time on January 6 1982 just hours after Bobby Joe and Annette were murdered
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an airline passenger looked down at quinnella pass from a plane flying overhead and saw lights flashing he
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recalled it was SOS a call for help it came from the driver of a truck stranded in a raging snowstorm his rear
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end sunk in the snow so his headlights were pointing up Dave Montoya was a fire chief at the time who also worked in the
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local mines and lo and behold here comes the plane he sees it flashes SOS well he
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didn't know if somebody saw him or not but he took the chance well somebody did see him with the Arapahoe counter shot
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yeah the passenger notified the pilot who radioed down the approximate coordinates to dispatchers on the ground
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so I was down there I had my radio with me so I said let me go check it out what
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were you thinking as you're driving I think who does that I thought it was a tourist I thought that crazy tours he
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got up here now he's going to ask us all this evening but when Montoya arrived at
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the scene he saw it wasn't a tourist it was someone he knew a man named Alan Phillips and he comes running around he
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says man am I glad to see you this is he says well I got drunk and I decided to come home and I didn't want to go on
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the highway to get caught so I went over the past because the cops ain't there did you happen to notice anything about
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him at the time yeah he had a big old cut right here on the eye Montoya says when he asked him how he got the injury
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Philip said he hit his face on his truck I could allowed I said boy you are really stupid Montoya says Phillips
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refused medical treatment and he dropped him off near his home he gave an oral statement to police about the incident
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that week local newspapers reported the unusual rescue and included a photo of the then 30 year old Alan Phillips
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if I would have known what I'd known then I probably would have left him Montoya would only learn in 2021 after
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Philip's arrest that he was potentially involved in the murders of Bobby Joe and
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Annette who who has luck like that it really you commit to murders you get stuck at the
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top of a pass trying to flee the scene and everything else and you get stuck where you know you're probably gonna die
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and you ask for mercy and you get it God gave him the mercy but he says you're not going to get away forever you
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got your mercy but you got to pay epileps may have escaped by Alan Phillips's fate would be in the
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hands of a jury on August 31st 2022 Alan Lee Phillips double murder trial began in Fairplay
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Colorado Annette's sisters and brother flew in from across the country to be there but
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we wanted to make sure that the family was represented you know that when the jury looks over you want them to see the
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concerned not leftovers but the left behinds at times seeing Phillips in court was
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painful for Annette's sister Cindy I was disgusted you got to live 40 Years of your life
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you took my sister to see him sit there so emotional less no emotion whatsoever just very stoic
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was very frustrating [Music] because of the DNA match did you think this is a slam dunk in a trial to me
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it's a slam dunk but to attorneys they have ways to make it not seem like such a slam dunk and that's what Philips
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defense team set out to do they would question the validity of the DNA and other evidence and instead blame Jeff
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oberholtzer for murdering his wife and Annette schnee even though he had been cleared by investigators years before
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they pointed the finger at Jeff every step of the way it's so maddening because that's not where the evidence
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led to when Jeff took the stand the defense was relentless they raked him over the coals and
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like he hadn't been through all this for the last 40 years they definitely wanted to put their
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crimes back on me the murders back on me it was quite quite painful the defense claimed
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Jeff had motive to kill his wife they said he was angry at Bobby Joe because the day before her murder she brought
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home cold pizza Jeff had told investigators about the pizza years earlier I kind of found that a little bit
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ludicrous I couldn't fathom Jeff killing Bobby Joe over a cold piece of pizza and the defense questioned Jeff about
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his bizarre behavior like when he told investigators about that premonition he had about where and when he thought a
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Net's body would be found details the defense argued only the killer would most likely know this could be seen as
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pretty damning to some right and so it was I just tried to tell the truth and and
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answer their questions and what about the claimed evidence about the years there was some
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contamination it wasn't known oh I have to be careful and wear gloves so I don't get my DNA on
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that item but the bottom line is the blood that is on Bobby Joe's glove and the tissue was Alan Phillips blood how do
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you explain that the prosecution said there was a simple explanation Alan Lee Phillips was the
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one and the only one who murdered Bobby Joe and Annette I mean what are the odds
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that it could be anybody else on the glove it was one in 17 quadrillion which is 2 million 275 000
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times the population of the Earth Phillips's DNA was found on Bobby Joe's belonging says Wendy kipple only because
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Bobby Joe fought for her life and caused him to bleed she was a fighter and and without her
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being a fighter we wouldn't have the DNA that we needed to solve this case and what about those orange booty socks
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DNA testing conducted months before trial revealed that Annette's DNA was on the inside and Bobby Joe's DNA was on
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the outside of that orange booty sock found on Hoosier pass not far from Bobby Joe's body
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so that ties both women to that one sock strong DNA of avigator Charlie McCormick was concerned
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with the way DNA was challenged by the defense confuse a jury are they going to buy it are they going
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to understand it after two weeks of testimony the case finally went to the jury Jeff and Wendy
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were nervous were you worried the jury is going to have Reasonable Doubt I felt that that
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was possible there's always doubt there's always doubt because you know that there's
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probably one juror that might hang up everybody and and you never know what do you make of the case against
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Alan Phillips chat now with the 48 Hours team tell me what it was like for you waiting
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for the verdict pins and needles on Thursday September 15 2022 the families of Bobby Joe oberholtzer and
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Annette schnee anxiously awaited the jury's decision was Alan Lee Phillips guilty or not guilty it just takes one
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do you wonder that didn't believe it the waiting was the hardest part says detective Sergeant
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kipple thankfully the jury kept it short four hours and 45 minutes the jury's verdict on eight charges
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including two counts each of first-degree murder felony murder and kidnapping guilty as charged
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is going to get what he deserves now I believe it was happening I was so happy tell me about the Motions you were
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feeling as the verdict was read Alan Phillips guilty I think I let out a sigh for Jeff oberholtzer Justice had finally
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been served and Decades of Suspicion decisively lifted and there was a grave weight lifted
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from my shoulders we hugged and said you know we were happy for him and for us and that it was over and over
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forever over for everyone Alan Lee Phillips showed no emotion poor daughter cried I felt bad for the
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family what they were going through a happy bad because they probably wanted to believe
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you know that he didn't do it 48 Hours reached out to the Phillips family and legal team for interviews but
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they all declined our requests a little over seven weeks later Phillips was back in court for sentencing his
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attorney insisted that his client had been wrongfully convicted he maintains his innocence
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and he maintains it the wrong man is being sentenced but judge Stephen groom wasn't persuaded and handed down two
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consecutive life sentences without the possibility of parole to give him the maximum allowed by law he then addressed
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the families of Annette schnee and Bobby Joe oberholzer I wish you the best and hope the healing starts today
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but it seems that Justice for Ned and Bobby Joe may not be the end of this story some investigators believe that
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the case against Alan Lee Phillips is not yet closed there are a lot of lingering questions but the one main one
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is are there more victims what do you think short answer yes and I think there are several that they
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he certainly could qualify for there's just no evidence to prove it while investigators carry on two
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families still struggle you know you give someone your love you can never take it back
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and I don't want to there's a special place in my heart and Bobby will always be there
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[Music] I was cheated out of 40 years without my sister we'd still be the best of friends today
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she was still here he took a really good person away from this world and it saddens me that we won't ever get to
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know how she was when she was 30 or when she was 40 or 50. and because Alan Lee Phillips maintains
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his innocence they still have one more agonizing question why you know why did you take these two beautiful
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girls [Music] in honor of Annette and Bobby Joe Annette's sisters and brother decided to
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visit where the young women were murdered oh there's a cross there it is [Music]
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they were there to thank Bobby Joe for fighting back and causing Alan Lee Phillips to leave behind his DNA
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without her we wouldn't be here thank you Bobby Joel yes thank you Joe at the place where Annette's body was
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found they delivered a long overdue message to their sister well Annette they caught him he'll be in
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prison for the rest of his life Alan Phillips just wanted you to know love and miss you
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[Music] thank you accused of his mother's murder at 14. what kid could commit a crime that
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violent and not leave any forensic evidence then sentenced to life the state never really had any case against
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this kid was he wrongfully convicted she was very close with Michael he was her baby 48 hours Saturday on CBS and
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